Battlefield 3 dev: 'You can't kill CoD by copying'

TimHotston on 7 Feb '11 said:

I liked Battlefield 2: Modern Combat the most out of the ones I've played... I also think that COD and Battefield are like two sides of a coin, they both have their good points Battlefield Bad Company = Destruction, while Call of Duty has its fast paced action Michael Bay style action. So in repect they have already beaten CoD but it "killing" is too far....

hollywood111 on 7 Feb '11 said:

Please dont try & become a COD better?... the reason we all love Battlefield is because it nothing like COD!...
What I mean is its a good game.

Bibbo on 7 Feb '11 said:

Too right, Don't you DARE become that piece of crap. But don't kill it, I don't want all the CoD noobs on Battlefield.

Then again, alot of us are chuckling about how you can tell a COD player is in BC2 for instance. Easy kills.... ahem. Come on in!

gogo65uk on 7 Feb '11 said:

Each new CoD out does the last by copy/pasting though ....

mkwuk on 7 Feb '11 said:

Wow. You get the feeling EA would introduce single player campaigns, kill-streaks and bloody screens (so real) into Fifa if it meant beating Call of Duty.

In fact, they’re starting to sound a little unhinged at times. As much as I love Battlefield; it’s not going to touch Call of Duty sales wise because it’s not the right game for the casuals market.

The moment Battlefield starts shifting 20m copies because Simple-Johnny Consumer buys it is the day it has become so dumbed down that it’s not Battlefield anymore.

lmimmfn on 7 Feb '11 said:

"BF3 is the sequel to BF2. It's not BC3. No, grappling hook and zipline are not in the plan."
bollox, means no warlord remake along with Karkand

murph_77 on 7 Feb '11 said:

I am looking forward to seeing what the Frostbite 2 engine can do.

ruley1979 on 7 Feb '11 said:

Do not make a camp fest.

1) Do away with KDR on the stat-boards and only have win/loss and accuracy. This will make them sad people that look out for themselves instead of the team in a team based game change the way they play, selfish idiots. It's all about the win for me, my stats will not get me a new bank loan or an extra cheese slice at Burger King so who give a f**k.

2) Smaller maps needs to need implemented, make up close and personal combat the norm.

3) Up the pace of the game somewhat.

4) BFBC is like CoD B.O in the sense it takes to many bullets to down a man. Make it more realistic like 2 or 3 bullets not a whole clip because thats just stupid.

5) Just make the game fun and glitch free and you have a winner EA-DIce and a buyer here.

mkwuk on 7 Feb '11 said:

1) Do away with KDR on the stat-boards and only have win/loss and accuracy. This will make them sad people that look out for themselves instead of the team in a team based game change the way they play, selfish idiots. It's all about the win for me, my stats will not get me a new bank loan or an extra cheese slice at Burger King so who give a f**k.

I agree with this. People who don't play for the team should be made an example of. At the end of every game it should tell you who wasn't pulling their weight - then the weakest team-player from the previous game has to play the next match in a hi-visibility jacket.

wasted-again on 7 Feb '11 said:

Don't get your hopes up Call Of Duty haters, it's gonna be just like COD, but with tanks.

Metagen on 7 Feb '11 said:

2) Smaller maps needs to need implemented, make up close and personal combat the norm.

3) Up the pace of the game somewhat.

4) BFBC is like CoD B.O in the sense it takes to many bullets to down a man. Make it more realistic like 2 or 3 bullets not a whole clip because thats just stupid.

I disagree with all of that, Battlefield 2 is still one of my favourite FPS of all time, miles ahead of any COD anyway and the huge maps were what made it so awesome, especially since I enjoyed playing the Sniper class. The pace was plenty fast enough, especially with all the vehicles involved. And that last point is just redundant cause we're not talking about the next BFBC installment.
Pretty diappointed by the lack of zipline and grappling hook though, I believe they were introduced in Special forces and I actually enjoyed them. Not really neccessary for the new game but it was still a bit of fun. I don't see why that would mean no warlord or karkand, I thought they were both in the original BF2?
I cannot wait for this game, I've been waiting for it for years XD

TheLastDodo on 7 Feb '11 said:

Do not make a camp fest.

1) Do away with KDR on the stat-boards and only have win/loss and accuracy. This will make them sad people that look out for themselves instead of the team in a team based game change the way they play, selfish idiots. It's all about the win for me, my stats will not get me a new bank loan or an extra cheese slice at Burger King so who give a f**k.

2) Smaller maps needs to need implemented, make up close and personal combat the norm.

3) Up the pace of the game somewhat.

4) BFBC is like CoD B.O in the sense it takes to many bullets to down a man. Make it more realistic like 2 or 3 bullets not a whole clip because thats just stupid.

5) Just make the game fun and glitch free and you have a winner EA-DIce and a buyer here.

Agreed on 1 & 5 but disagree with 2, 3 & 4.

After 30+ hrs playtime I've not noticed any bugs in BFBC2 multiplayer besides the odd floating crate but I understand others have so obviously making BF3 bug free is essential.

If anyone wants to know how CoD plays in a BF game then buy the BFBC2 Vietnam expansion, it sucks.

I'll add another though.

6) Dont let opposition into the homebase spawns. Base raping is the absolute worst thing in BFBC2.

Chief Predz on 7 Feb '11 said:

"You don't kill COD by trying to be COD. You kill COD by making a better shooter."

You...EA and DICE will not kill COD any way you try, you can only dream to make a better shooter

I bought BBC2 and played for 2 hours and thought what is this the game that supposed to "own" COD? HAHA!
Its sooooooo slow n boring! It sat collecting dust for a few weeks then it was traded, thankyou no love goodnight!

shadyMrPatch on 7 Feb '11 said:

Agreed on 1 & 5 but disagree with 2, 3 & 4.

After 30+ hrs playtime I've not noticed any bugs in BFBC2 multiplayer besides the odd floating crate but I understand others have so obviously making BF3 bug free is essential.

If anyone wants to know how CoD plays in a BF game then buy the BFBC2 Vietnam expansion, it sucks.

I'll add another though.

6) Dont let opposition into the homebase spawns. Base raping is the absolute worst thing in BFBC2.

Not noticed any bugs? You are one lucky dude. I have a few more hours on this than you (errr... about 800...) but man, there was whole weeks where I didn't have all my unlocked stuff, recently its started not being able to find games, in the kill cam bit the enemies don't have hand guns half the time, I've been stuck inside scenery, shooting people who don't die. knifing people, getting the 'stuck' sound and then they don't die (repeatedly).

Buggy as hell.. still love it to bits though...

TheLastDodo on 7 Feb '11 said:

You're right I have been lucky then lol. I have been affected by the stat tracking "issue" since I bought Vietnam. So yeah DICE you do have a few things to fix for BF3.

lmimmfn on 7 Feb '11 said:

Do not make a camp fest.

1) Do away with KDR on the stat-boards and only have win/loss and accuracy. This will make them sad people that look out for themselves instead of the team in a team based game change the way they play, selfish idiots. It's all about the win for me, my stats will not get me a new bank loan or an extra cheese slice at Burger King so who give a f**k.

no, the KD is good, not that i pay much notice to it but its nice to see it improve over time.

2) Smaller maps needs to need implemented, make up close and personal combat the norm.

no, its not CoD, the maps should be huge, like BF2 and not the tiny ones from BC2

3) Up the pace of the game somewhat.

no, play CoD or BC2, BF2 was never about fast pace apart from some choke points.

4) BFBC is like CoD B.O in the sense it takes to many bullets to down a man. Make it more realistic like 2 or 3 bullets not a whole clip because thats just stupid.

1 shot to the head kills, if you spray bullets its less effective, again a CoD( well MW anyway ) thing where spraying bullets works

5) Just make the game fun and glitch free and you have a winner EA-DIce and a buyer here.

agree with this

I don't see why that would mean no warlord or karkand, I thought they were both in the original BF2?
I cannot wait for this game, I've been waiting for it for years XD

Nah Warlord is Special Forces only, and my fav map with ziplines etc, grrr

I cant wait either, also been waiting years for this.BF2 is the only game i have ever racked up 2000+ hours on.

bambi509 on 8 Feb '11 said:

i think they should make kill streaks but some that dont aquire somebody to camp