An anonymous source has told Everything HQ that Sony is 'already deep in development' of a new PS3 SKU that isn't susceptible to recent system security exploits.
The hack-proof model is said to be a slim PS3 boasting a 300GB hard drive. The report claims it will cost £186.99.
The launch timing of the new model has reportedly not been decided yet, as Sony awaits the conclusion of its legal battle with PS3 hacker George Hotz.
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91 comments so far...
StonecoldMC on 22 Feb '11 said:
One good thing to come of the hacking situation then?
Good news for me, thanks George
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ensabahnur on 22 Feb '11 said:
Good way to promote a rush sale on older models. Anyone who has any inclination on hacking the machine will be rushing out to snap them up, just like those who go looking for the earlier PSP models.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 22 Feb '11 said:
They should really do what Nintendo have done with the wii. Not change anything outwardly and not tell anyone about the revisions. Then there will be no way of knowing whether the new hardware revsion is hackable untill someone tries and fails.
Put simply if sony really wanted to beat these guys they'd make sure that knowledge of it was kept quiet.
Very_Silver_Ownz on 22 Feb '11 said:
'' it will cost £186.99. ''
What really ? If thats true need to get another PS3 as a spare...another for the living room and one in the toilet
JonnyCanonFodder on 22 Feb '11 said:
Smells like entrapment to me...
altitude2k on 22 Feb '11 said:
I thought the original was meant to be hack proof. And the slim.
gnokgnik on 22 Feb '11 said:
F**k. Just replaced the fat one with a 320 GB slim... should've waited I guess.
STE MO on 22 Feb '11 said:
It will never happen. The hackers will ALWAYS find a way of navigating security systems. Saying its unhackable just brings them out in force to be the first.
slick loose on 22 Feb '11 said:
Claiming it's Hack-Proof is just basically setting a challenge to the hackers.
It's the Titanic all over again!
El Mag on 22 Feb '11 said:
What they probably mean by hack-proof is those that are smart enough will find a way, but normal people that just try to put a firmware off a usb or something won't get it to work. I call bull though, it's been proven there's always somebody out there that can hack into anything.... except my mums pies, hard as bloody rock i tell ya.
Imaduck on 22 Feb '11 said:
Slick Loose just said all that needs said. Hackers are probably busting to get at this now. f**k sake Sony, just write them an invitation next time.
Laughlyn on 22 Feb '11 said:
So they release a new model thats 'Hack proof' at £190 yet reduce the machines that can be hacked to a cheaper price?
Is it just me or does that logic not seem right?
they release a new machine... but make the machine thats hackable, more accessible?
budobear on 22 Feb '11 said:
The hackers told them what the issue was though, by telling Sony what it was they must have provided them with the information to 'shut that door'. I'm sure I read that if they change the internal workings (and put better security in place) it'll be sealed up tight again.
Given enough time they might be able to get in but by that time we'll be looking at the next gen (I only say this as its taken them 5 years to break in the first time)
fps_d0minat0r on 22 Feb '11 said:
the price drop is nothing to do with hackers.
even if there were no hackers, the price drop would still have come to increase the userbase and sell more software.
I dont think anyone would mind a top of the range games console with blu-ray for £190. let sony's domination begin!
Black Mantis on 22 Feb '11 said:
Since the Slim was released, the old Phat models have had problems with Sony's updates. I hope this doesn't prove to be the case with the Slim models out now.
Very_Silver_Ownz on 22 Feb '11 said:
I wonder if the PS3 was 1st at £200 at the very start how different things would be now.
nottsville on 22 Feb '11 said:
Surely this doesn't really mean anything? It's ok bringing out a new model, but what about the tens of millions that are already out in the wild?
only_777 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Oh Sony, no.
Don't tell people you'r making a hack-proof PS3 because you say hack proof and although you think this:
http://www.geekalerts.com/u/own-safe.jpg
Hackers will think this:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101219235204/halofanon/images/3/38/Challenge_Accepted.png
slick loose on 22 Feb '11 said:
Good point, does this mean they are giving up on trying to protect our current PS3's!?
PG2603 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Well if their doing a new SKU PS3, they should add the 802.11n, have the new Wifi Wireless N build in
Moorpheus on 22 Feb '11 said:
No system is hack-proof - once again, the hackers will be licking their lips to get to work on this new model.
Imaduck on 22 Feb '11 said:
Honestly, I'm not a fan of hackers at all, but I don't think Sony's arrogance with this helps anyone. I hope it gets hacked to bits. Saves the dedicated PS3 fanbase from it anyways, if hackers are elsewhere
Gambini on 22 Feb '11 said:
I don't think Sony are saying anything of the like, this story is from an "anonymous source". Sony are obviously going to try and close the exploits found in the current hardware, but I think the "hack proof" statement is a bit of CVG spin.
My "anonymous source" tells me Sony are working on an xbox compatible model
(see what I did there) 
martinawatson on 22 Feb '11 said:
and a updated hdmi as well
JAKEevans on 22 Feb '11 said:
why are people saying sony shouldnt tell people what they are up to? this isnt from sony these are reports.....its not as if sony called up cvg to tell them is it? sheesh people!
JAKEevans on 22 Feb '11 said:
Arrogance? what are you talking about...what if you ran a company dude? would you let things slide....and lets face it, its the internet that has been broadcasting all this about the ps3 being hacked which has forced sony to take a stand. Maybe if the internet went on about the xbox being hacked to death alot....ms may have responded more
ricflair on 22 Feb '11 said:
I'm not sure about this, they've dropped the prices, but only to sub £200 on the 160GB models. Cheapest for a 320GB was £230 inc LBP2, so £200 basically. But while at the same time, you've been able to get 250GB 360s for £159.99, I think retailers have just been falling over themselves since Tesco cut the price of everything.
The same website this comes from also say there are negotiations for RE6 to be a timed PS3 exclusive!
I don't know the practicalities of having two consoles that authenticate things differently and whether that is possible etc.
300GB is a bit of an odd HDD size and £186.99 is definitely an odd price point!
And this everythinghq website seems to have been running since 20th Feb and this was the first story they posted. Is this even a source for a decent source???
Cerberus on 22 Feb '11 said:
Nothing is hack proof. Sony stop being pric£s and just keep quite and go about your business but oh no they give it the large with daft statement's, you know full well after a few days of release the headline will be... Sony's Hack Proof console... HACKED!!!!
Imaduck on 22 Feb '11 said:
Jake ... running a company and protecting your company is not wrong or stupid, I didn't ever say it was, or anything of the sort, I even said I didn't support hackers.
I said arrogance. Arrogance as in "unhackable". That is just f**king stupid of them. They said the same about the PS3 didn't they? that went well!
It's like a President saying he can't be assasinated, only there's a lot more dedicated candidates with online stuff. As soon as you say that something can't be done, people look for a way to prove it wrong. Not me, others. It's an open invitation to the dedicated headcases out there.
I have no idea what the hell you were saying about MS. They're a huge dumb corporation too, I'm not in any fanclubs. This is to do with Sony. Keep it that way plox.
El Mag on 22 Feb '11 said:
Like somebody's already pointed out this hasn't officially come from Sony so why blame them?. It's a pretty obvious conclusion with everything that's recently happened, so somebody's made a story from 'an inside source' and ran with it. The source could be his mate crazy Dave from the pub for all we know.
I'll take that 360 game playing PS3 though, it'll help my wait until that vinyl record playing, 100 billion gb hdd, with a free Mr T bouncer that stands next to it so you can't hack it comes out.... oh sorry i forgot the word that makes all this true - report.
JAKEevans on 22 Feb '11 said:
i wasnt making a fanboy war comment i just used ms as an example.....anyway where in this article do sony say anything at all? Have they said the new ps3 will be unhackable (recently) or is this a report from a game website? i just dont understand why people are saying sony shouldnt make any claims when they havent thats all
Imaduck on 22 Feb '11 said:
Alrite man, if i mistook some of what you said - my bad entirely. Apologiseseses
It is of course entirely possible that they said nothing of the sort and this is all just speculation. Most people here, myself included, are reacting purely based on the concept if/were it to go ahead. Even if it's total bs, Sony would be daft to do it.
eastldn on 22 Feb '11 said:
good luck with that!
wwinterj on 22 Feb '11 said:
"Hack proof" or not I will not buy another PS3 after having just bought a PS3 Slim thank you very much. I'm sure there will be a way to hack it anyway.
It's nice that there is a price drop coming though for those who want a PS3 for whatever reason.
Zubee on 22 Feb '11 said:
I'm not made of money! Sony are having a f**king laugh.
a) They are the ones who sold me an exploitable machine. I want a fix free.
b) The security is only as good as the programmer behind it, and I'm guessing some hacker will come along pretty soon, and he will have done his homework.
nuggit3000 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Well at that price I might get 2, a hackable one and one for PSN...
Seriously though, pricing it at the same price as Wii would show how overpriced Nintendo's repackaged Gamecube and waggle stick are.
DaRockwilder1 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Just don't forget to stick a USB port on the back Sony.
kmcroc on 22 Feb '11 said:
their is no such thing as hack proof, just like theirs no such thing as perfect . with some time & skills it will be hacked. this reminds me of the whole cops & criminals gun issue where cops had six shooters & criminals had semi- automatic guns , so the cops got semi-automatic,then the criminals got Teflon-coated bullet, see this a fight that will continue no matter what is done by both sides. but good luck w/ telling yourself that lie Sony.
BenThomasFoster on 22 Feb '11 said:
it's slowly getting affordable for me
good times. knock another £40 and we have a deal sony
anytime on 22 Feb '11 said:
Here we go again with all this hack proof, unhackable crap. Obviously they didn't learn anything at all from the geohot debacle whatsoever. There will be another little hacker running around this time next year claiming to have hacked the s**t out of it.
El Mag on 22 Feb '11 said:
And the award for people not reading the story properly before commenting goes to *opens envelope* Hack-proof PS3 in development - report, come on down.
Here's a highlight of the great achievement
"God Sony you sure are dumb for saying this again"
"Sony didn't actually say anything, it's from an 'an anonymous source' that might aswell be my granddad"
"GOD SONY YOU SUCK"
"THEY TOOK OUR JOBS"
"But Sony haven't said this have they"
"Won't somebody please think of the children!"
"You Sony guys sure will have egg on your face when this machine is hacked haha"
Thanks for coming, please tip your waitress.
only_777 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Do you actually have any idea what you are talking about?
I'll tell you for free right now, how to have a non-hacked PS3.
Don't f**king hack it!
I know that might be quite a lot to take onboard, but all you have to do is NOT install custom firmware and job done. You don't have a hacked PS3.
only_777 on 22 Feb '11 said:
I am doing that now! I made this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkWKQjV9zJg
Also, making youtube videos after having a few drinks is not such a good idea!
boskersrevenge on 22 Feb '11 said:
To play games?
Seriously though, liking the idea that the PS3 will come down even further. Nice
Double-K on 22 Feb '11 said:
Since I'm saving up for a PS3, I'm buying this one..
only_777 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Naw, get a Japanese 60gig machine. Don't hack it, but I can give you a damn good reason why you'd want one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdtDhHPzFwA
Check that out, pause then resume the video, then press '6' on your keyboard (because that'll skip to the right part of the video).
Then you'll see why having a 60gig Jap machine is sooooooo good!
boskersrevenge on 22 Feb '11 said:
You can achieve the exact same thing on a cheap PC. About a million times easier, too.
A3RO_DYNAMIK on 22 Feb '11 said:
Sounds a bit wierd to me, when did they start making 300gb hard drives rather than 320gb and £187 price point is a bit random
El Mag on 22 Feb '11 said:
Aww memories, i used to play the WrestleFest in a pub in Skeg when i went on holiday with my mum, dad and dear old nan.
Very_Silver_Ownz on 22 Feb '11 said:
they need to go all out on this new PS3 version. bring back PS2 BC and still the size of the PS3 Slim and I'll need another ps3 for the hell of it.
PS3UberTool on 22 Feb '11 said:
It's obvious that they haven't learnt a thing... this is a red flag to the bull... taunting the hackers to give it a try and then... bang... the new unhackable PS3 (which was touted as hack proof anyway) is hacked again.
Spudfella on 22 Feb '11 said:
Remember when Sony said the PS3 was unhackable for all those years? Round 2 coming up.
Very_Silver_Ownz on 22 Feb '11 said:
only_777 - damn you, you have a PS2 BC PS3 and it still works ? wow nice vid and nice jab at Alan666 lol he got owned.
markyR on 22 Feb '11 said:
I've given up. I am most certainly not going to buy a new PS3 just to stop the hackers, so I'll keep the one I have and for my B'Day yesterday I took advantage of the Tesco 20% off offers and got as my pressy a new 360 slim 250gb! And it's friggin awesome! And not hacked half as much as the PS3 has been now....
I thought I would never have both consoles lol. But I have such a massive back catalouge of second hand hits to choose from I'm happy.
only_777 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Thank you very much! The secret to the long life of my 60gig Jap PS3 is that I used it for Linux and PS1/PS2 games, where as my 60gig UK PS3 YLOD'ed last year
The Hacked PS3 is still going strong but I've had to replace my 'clean' PS3, I think it's because it's not under as much stress as it's 'dirty' brother.
And as for Alan666, guess how p**sed he was when that video was on the CVG front page! I posted it to CVG and it was printed here:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/286844/news/eas-call-of-duty-spoof-played-through-in-full-video/
Very_Silver_Ownz on 22 Feb '11 said:
@only_777 - LOL yeah I remember that. he wasn't happy I know that
Imaduck on 22 Feb '11 said:
What's with the whole Alan666 thing anyways man, you 2 got a hsitory or something?
markyR on 22 Feb '11 said:
Whilst I appreciate yout total nerdiness fanboyism for the ol classics!! I would love to argue with you over a few pints about hacking!! Inbetween the reminissing of old classics..
Out of interest do you actually own all those games on your emulators?
El Mag on 22 Feb '11 said:
only_777 was the first to tell me Alan666 was a troll when i was pretty new around here, i was actually silly enough to believe he had a PS3. Now i'm wise to his one post to be sarcastic then not reply if anybody catches him out on whatever he says ways.
Imaduck on 22 Feb '11 said:
Mag ... that left me even more confused
El Mag on 22 Feb '11 said:
Haha sorry, i trailed off into why i don't like Alan. I'm not sure if they have personal history, only_777 probably just sussed Alan out before alot did.
AaronRider on 22 Feb '11 said:
..Bill Gates is the anonymous source, C'mon you know it could be true.That scalliwag!
h3r3tic666 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Hmmmmm my 1st console in ages
doesn't matter whether it's hackproof or not , for that price you can't say no
pRM8 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Im sure we can safely put this nugget of info about this "new" PS3 into the rumour and speculation pile, although it is quite humours the amount of people that think its all fact at this stage.
There is no doubt Sony will be actively looking into and developing tighter security but I dont believe much of what has come from this "anonymous source".
timewarp1 on 22 Feb '11 said:
I *think* the reason the Jap PS3's last longer is they may be allowed to use lead in the solder, where as over here there is EU regulation that bans it, though it is only dangerous at manufacture point. As lead is the best conductive, without it it can cause the thing to overheat and you get the YlOd when the either the GPU or CPU (or both in my case) solder cracks. When you get it reflowed they usually apply stuff with lead in.
. But the Slim froze up and had to be reset after about 30 seconds of operation, if that! So now Im backing up to h'd and trying a restore. Slim doesnt have a master on off at the back either. Still, apparently the old 60gb BC use 180w and the slims use 60w so the bills should go down.
Just swapped by 60gb BC to a slim last night and moved eveything over. It didnt format the 60 after transfer either
Now the 60 is gathering dust until I decide whether to sell it or lend it out
timewarp1 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Cool video. Arcade machine in your bedroom wtf ?! When you said you are a retro fanatic you werent kidding
Paradaz - UK on 22 Feb '11 said:
How ironic that the usual Sony fans were whimpering about Geohotz spoiling their multiplayer games yesterday but today they welcome a new SKU.
The funny thing is that a new model isn't going to stop the existing hackers from spoiling everyone's games anyway.....or do the uneducated think that a new model will suddenly stop the cheating retards in MW2 etc?
The damage has been done, a new SKU isn't suddenly going to stop the existing problems.
timewarp1 on 22 Feb '11 said:
Stock up on some PS3's from Amazon - they have 3.50 FW at boot
360_Fan on 22 Feb '11 said:
I would be very careful about getting the older models after the new ones come out, or even holding onto the current models. I have a feeling that Sony will flip the switch on these consoles removing the multi player. I give it 12 months after the new model gets hacked and we will see a rushed ps4.
only_777 on 23 Feb '11 said:
Yes.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Dyf4UfttGVE/TVLdIxALlmI/AAAAAAAABTA/LsnRE_8mdgk/s1600/04160001.JPG
voodoo341 on 23 Feb '11 said:
You must post that f**king photo at least once a week.
only_777 on 23 Feb '11 said:
People keep asking me the same question though. It's hard enough to get people to accept that there are hackers out there that are not out to f**k people over. I'm not saying that markyR was implying that I was a pirate, but I have to make sure that although people know I do my share of hacking, I'm a nice hacker. I'm not one of the bad ones who are out to pirate games and harvest your credit card.
boskersrevenge on 23 Feb '11 said:
Ha ha ha, it's true that... "lordy lordy looky what Ize got"
markyR on 23 Feb '11 said:
You sir are here by declared A PURE GEEK OF THE GEEKIEST GEEK!!!!!
I respect your passion for your collecting!!
I had to ask.... and I'm glad I did to see a pic like that is very nice, all those classics! I bet you've still got the consoles stashed away somewhere? I bet your on ebay every day? Much respect to your collection mate, very impressive, very impressive.
And no I didn't know you had them all already, but I personally love people showing off their collections and hardware, it's just interesting to see all these massive collections.
Thanks mate. I really appreciate someone replying like that and it's obvious you love your hobby. Keep on collecting I say..
Is your name Simon looking at your article? If so, thank you very much for posting your photo Simon. Sod the pub, I'd be round your house rumaging through your collection for a few hours....
A3RO_DYNAMIK on 23 Feb '11 said:
The retro armchair complements the collection I feel
only_777 on 23 Feb '11 said:
Thank you very much! And yes I am Simon, I can't really hide that after writting for CVG!
Also I can add these to the mix:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_qA_8whxhmk/TWVaXcQWyJI/AAAAAAAABTk/pIEJjT7r3y4/s320/mymachines.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9TvtZnKyXMo/TWVacjg8qAI/AAAAAAAABTo/ZdBjrz5viS0/s320/super_rare_stuff.JPG
You can see those in full size here:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_qA_8whxhmk/TWVaXcQWyJI/AAAAAAAABTk/pIEJjT7r3y4/s1600/mymachines.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9TvtZnKyXMo/TWVacjg8qAI/AAAAAAAABTo/ZdBjrz5viS0/s1600/super_rare_stuff.JPG
These pictures are actually from about 2004, when I was in the magazine GamesTM (I think it was issue 34). thats why you don't see anything recent in the pictures.
Paradaz - UK on 23 Feb '11 said:
And now everyone can see why the articles on C&VG are full of holes with incorrect spelling, grammar and why mis-leading titles are a daily occurrence.
voodoo341 on 23 Feb '11 said:
only_777 on 23 Feb '11 said:
Damn you! But you have a point, my spelling is rubbish.
slick loose on 23 Feb '11 said:
In all seriousness Simon, where the f**k is your PS1!?
only_777 on 23 Feb '11 said:
markyR on 23 Feb '11 said:
I'm impressed with the old school and new school Mega Drives plus peripherals! I am old (sad) enough to remember when they launched the Mega CD lol! Did you ever get the Amiga CD32 or Jaguar or have you just been into the Japanese consoles and games? I love searching You Tube for this stuff as some people have some serious console as well as game collections.
only_777 on 23 Feb '11 said:
I've only got machines that I actually liked to play. I don't buy stuff just to have them. I do own an Amiga 500 and Atari ST now, along with some others.
The only machine I have ever brought for collection only is a Sega Pico:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D8bwUP6Y7ug/ST5A7rDGVGI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/6UYKIgG7tn4/s400/pico.jpg
Which I saw for £2 (including 5 games) at a boot sale. I only normally buy machines and games I actually like. Which is strange because I do own a Wii!
A3RO_DYNAMIK on 23 Feb '11 said:
I have have owned the majority of these consoles through my life and am so gutted I sold them. I went through the too cool for gaming phase in my late teens and traded them all in for £50
Now I don't buy retro because I am worried the consoles will break down and I would have bought all the games for nothing. I think my console reliability faith has been skewed a little by Microsoft. Do you know if you can get these old consoles repaired easily Only_777?
Double-K on 24 Feb '11 said:
I need release date...
Double-K on 24 Feb '11 said:
Need release date..please inform me if you know anything..thanks.
slick loose on 24 Feb '11 said:
A release date!? It hasn't even been confirmed it even exits yet!
ricflair on 24 Feb '11 said:
I've seen that photo of only777's impressive library on here more than that photo of Reggie with the odd look in his eyes!
I do wish I'd kept all my consoles, but they were always used to fund the purchase of new consoles! It was only from the GC onwards that I had a lot of games, I didn't have the money and wasn't that into gaming before then.
Noobsaibot on 24 Feb '11 said:
Surely it would make more sense to release this at the same price as current models and increase the price of the older models until they can be recalled and either retro fitted or recycled. Damn me and my common sense.
alan666 on 24 Feb '11 said:
i'll stick with my underused 250 GB slim thanx
only_777 on 24 Feb '11 said:
You still don't have a PS3, f**k off.