Nintendo's Wii successor is set to utilise an entirely new controller and will be more powerful than Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, well-placed international industry sources have told CVG.
CVG sources understand Nintendo plans to officially unveil the console, which will feature full HD visuals and graphical capabilities beyond Sony and Microsoft's current hardware, at E3 this June.
What's most exciting about the Wii successor however is its all-new controller, which industry sources have indicated is not simply an upgraded Wii Remote, and will even feature a built-in HD screen.
Our sources did not specify whether or not the controller displays will feature any other functionality, such as that of the DS's touch screen, but it's easy to imagine the sort of innovation an extra screen could bring to Wii 2 games.
"Nintendo's plans sound unreal," one source said. "Publishers are already planning launch titles and it's all very exciting.
"The hardware is even more powerful than current HD consoles and backwards compatible with Wii. The controller will be all-new and has a HD screen on it."
We're told Nintendo plans to launch the Wii successor in late 2012, which lines up with earlier reports from other games media.
Asked to comment on today's reports earlier, a Nintendo of America spokesperson issued a straight "no comment".
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kimoak on 14 Apr '11 said:
This is complete b*****ks.
Very_Silver_Ownz on 14 Apr '11 said:
Sounds like what the Wii was suppose to be.
markyR on 14 Apr '11 said:
This sounds very expensive, which is odd for Nintendo but not somewhere they haven't been before.. 3DS will be my only new console for a long time, along with me 360 and PS3.
gmcb007 on 14 Apr '11 said:
Even if it was more powerful than the Xbox and PS3, I don't think i'd rush out to get it as i'm not a major fan of motion control. I think i'll always prefer a controller. This is actually quite plausible though and Nintendo can once again be king of the consoles!
unforgetable on 14 Apr '11 said:
it is all good for new consoles to come out and be backwards compatible but what about the games i have downloaded on to the old machine? yeah i know i can still play them off line (not the 360, wtf) but if i pack up the Wii for Wii2 i still want to play my games that i have downloaded for it.
The_KFD_Case on 14 Apr '11 said:
I'll wait to pass final judgement until more details are officially released. However, my initial thoughts on the idea of having touch screen controls on a controller that will be in your hands, partly obscured by your hands (in regards to your vision), with no physical "landmarks" on the touch screen to orient your hands as to which button/function you're pressing, all the while you're busy watching a TV screen/monitor/projection screen, etc. X amount of feet away from you as you engage in often hectic gaming action seems like an exceedingly poor concept.
ste hicky on 14 Apr '11 said:
can't comment on how well it would (if true) work myself kfd but if there's one company on earth i would trust to pull it off,it's nintendo.
SpandexArmstrong on 14 Apr '11 said:
I really hope this turns it to be true. Bring this on I say!
I'd love to see What Nintendo can do with a powerful HD console.
I'm ready and waiting!
Dragovian on 15 Apr '11 said:
Sorry, but as excited as I am for the console, there's no way the controller would have an HD screen. It'd be much higher-res than the 3DS!
djreplay on 15 Apr '11 said:
"Nintendo's Wii successor is set to utilise an entirely new controller and will be more powerful than Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, well-placed international industry sources have told CVG."
That's not the same source that said the NGP was more powerful than the PS3 is it?
TOKEN on 15 Apr '11 said:
BRING IT ON IM READY.
I recon 1GB ddr memory compared to 512 ddr in current consoles to give it a better edge in graphics like the wii to xbox,64 meg to 80 meg,this will make games on wii 2 look better than ps3/360 and will continue for the first couple of years of the ps4/720 until they get their act together.
It would be nice if the cpu ran at 3.4 or even 3.6.
snowdog on 15 Apr '11 said:
Nonsense. It's too early, we'll hear about it E3 2012 at the earliest.
ste hicky on 15 Apr '11 said:
quick thought about this possibility: maybe nintendo are looking at bringing metroid prime hunters style aiming to console fps'?
stick for movement,screen for aiming? not sure if it'd work but it's certainly an option and hunters got the aiming/accuracy right if not comfort.
rigby2447 on 15 Apr '11 said:
to put a hd screen on the controller just sounds stupid how much would an extra controller actually cost if that was the case?
Sirini on 15 Apr '11 said:
The 360 is now 6 year old technology, practically ancient history when it comes to computing. The Wii was a small advancement on the gamecube specwise, which was 5 year old tech at the time. If the Wii2 isn't at least as powerful as the 360 then something is wrong, because by now that should be pretty cheap to do.
TOKEN on 15 Apr '11 said:
I hope we get a picture or a screen shot of a new mario kart or even a console unveil before E3.
Barca Azul on 15 Apr '11 said:
Hmmmm, this could force MS or Sony hand into next gen if its a power model!
Be interesting to see what they have to offer and if its taken up by Wii owners or not.
sweatyBallacks on 15 Apr '11 said:
I agree.
I would go further though. It's not costly at all to make something more powerful than 360/PS3 as the tech is so old now. I reckon to future-proof any incoming Wii 2 it should be at least twice as powerful as 360/PS3, or at least feature a graphics processor twice as powerful.
There are graphics cards out there that are up to 10x as powerful as the current consoles, so please Nintendo: give your new console a bit of omph please will you. Otherwise I'm not interested.
mrlister on 15 Apr '11 said:
Controller has an HD screen? I call bullshizzle, but... my dreams of the ON may finally become reality! Seriously, a 3D HD headset with gyroscope, mind control, AR cameras and a little nozzle that blows smells up your nose. Seriously!!!!!
Windowlicker79 on 15 Apr '11 said:
Yeah that's a good point. Nintendo really need to catch up on the hardware front, and its more than plausible that they could release a machine for late 2012 that could be much more powerful than PS3 or 360 and probably sell for around £250. This would definitely set a standard for Sony and Microsoft to beat when they release their next consoles around 2013-14.
With regards to an actual HD screen in a controller, I think there must be some confusion or exaggeration here. There just wouldn't be any point in having a full 1080p or even a 720p screen that was that small. You just wouldn't be able to see the benefit of it. It would need to be 960x640 (like iPhone 4) at the very most. And even then that would be overkill as you'd only ever be glancing at it. If the controller will have a screen I'd guess it'll just be a "high res" screen, as in not something like a Game Boy Color display. There's no way it'd be anything like what we'd describe as a high definition display. And also it'd make controllers far too expensive.
I'd like to know who these "well-placed international industry sources" are, and how accurate any of this information is, but if any of its true, I could be tempted to rekindle my relationship with Nintendo, which burned out with the death of the SNES.
Ryo_Hazuki4 on 15 Apr '11 said:
I always thought the Dreamcast VMU was a good, but under utilised idea. Hopefully Nintendo can make use of something Sega didnt.
RandyChimp on 15 Apr '11 said:
Nope
Quick question. All fanboys aside, in the past, say, 20 years, with Sony and Nintendo banging heads, and MS joining in halfway through, when has Nintendo had the most powerful console out of the three? Dumbass casual gamers and parents who think they can make Fat Timmy all thin with some excercise will buy Nintendo products thanks to their low prices compared to the other consoles. Nintendo aren't about to change that, when they can cash in on gullible parents and fanboys. Same as Sony with their overpricing and MS with their shoddy hardware.
Bosh, three burns in one night. Now I'm tired.
Mad Garrotter on 15 Apr '11 said:
Maybe it'll be like a DS but you control the game on your TV but can then continue it on the move as it is still connected to the Wii 2...somehow...and without competing with the 3DS...somehow. Maybe it'll be voodoo magic and black arts powered?
solamon77 on 15 Apr '11 said:
I hope Big N comes out with a system more powerful than the 360 and the PS3. With MS and Sony claiming that the current generation of video games is going to last until 2015 I'd like to see how they respond to this. Nintendo has the opportunity to swoop in and eat everyone's cake.
They will have a better motion control than the Kinect and Move, and a stronger overall console. Now all they will have to do is cultivate better relationships with 3rd party developers and it's all over.
The_Jaster on 15 Apr '11 said:
I like your thinking there Solamon77.
I still don't think we will hear anything of Nintendo's next console at this upcoming E3.........maybe by the end of the year though, also a screen on a motion controller I don't see it working somehow.
extracurricular on 15 Apr '11 said:
N64
extracurricular on 15 Apr '11 said:
Nintendo already did it once and released a console twice as powerful as the competitors (N64), its entirely feasible they'll do it again if not totally probable. Don't know about the HD screen controller but sounds like something they'd do. Nobody thought you could do 3D without glasses and they pulled that off easy enough.
altitude2k on 15 Apr '11 said:
A screen on your controller?
More than 10 years on, and Nintendo are still trying to keep up with Sega's consoles
TOKEN on 15 Apr '11 said:
64 had more memory than ps1 and not only that the goal posts have been moved now ms and sony have now got to make something more powerful with lowere profits.
By the time ms start getting real use to their hardware 2-3 years after wii 2 launch ninty could start thinking about wii3.
boskersrevenge on 15 Apr '11 said:
A screen on a controller? Has been done but let's be real - why? It doesn't sound like it has any real application that I can think of unless....
SSFIV guy was interviewed recently and he said something along the lines of SSFIV on the 3DS having direct connectivity with a (as yet) unmentionable (but new) console. I am not s**tting you now.... thinking off the hoof, could this mean that Nintendo has been working on a plan whereby the 3DS and the new Nintendo console are connected and could actually play host to games that you play on both?
Just and idea yet I could see some incredible applications there.
altitude2k on 15 Apr '11 said:
I don't understand why all 3 manufactures have to work on the same generational calendar as each other to keep up. PS3 - most expensive, but lasts years until the next PlayStation. Wii - reasonably cheap, new console will be out sooner.
Makes sense to me, and I don't think Sony or MS will see a need to change their plans entirely.
rbt2 on 15 Apr '11 said:
Sounds more than feasible. They've already done something similar with a GC/GBA link up.
TOKEN on 15 Apr '11 said:
I thought you said on my thread nothing for 12 months but it seems to me you now have doubt,i would say march 2012 retail release but a rumour claim 1 month after unveil release?
Come on jaster get excited dude E3 around the corner,and if there is no wii 2 E3 we can fail TOGETHER LOL
boskersrevenge on 15 Apr '11 said:
You're WRONG, rbt.... absolutely WRONG and I love it
Stealthyfish on 15 Apr '11 said:
That's all well and good but who really cares about super mega graphics when it's just gunna run another 50 mario games? Nintendo have never really been about graphics IMO and that's what's helped them get to where they are now. That said the sale of wiis has dropped considerably recently in favour of the other consoles so maybe it's time to put a bit of life into their console gaming.
rick on 15 Apr '11 said:
This is great news if true especially if it's going to be more powerful than current gen even if very slightly. Imagine what Zelda would be capable of.
I used to love Nintendo but started losing interest in them when the Gamecube came out. It would be great if they could get back to how they were back in the SNES and N64 days.
This talk of a screen in the controller sounds a bit weird though. I remember the Dreamcast having a screen if you used the memory card thing and that was never fully utilised.
I think they went a bit too far towards the family friendly end of the spectrum which I think turned off the more seasoned gamers. This can be addressed by having full third party support, a robust online capability and having a conventional controller as standard. I don't have an issue with the motion controller but it's more of a party thing IMHO.
boskersrevenge on 15 Apr '11 said:
Oh Jesus Christ I almost passed my intestines when you mentioned Zelda.... Holy crap just what could they do with that with the hardware ramped up to 11!!
rbt2 on 15 Apr '11 said:
Tingle in hi-def.......wahey!
altitude2k on 15 Apr '11 said:
I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for a gaming site to put their foot in it and say something like "Nintendo are about to make an Earth-shattering announcement at E3".
Cogglesz on 15 Apr '11 said:
Something makes me feel excited about this, maybe because i've grew up with Nintendo's since i can remember, but i'm not sure about it being a wii too, i'm sure i've heard from Nintendo that they don't plan to bring out a wii 2 but to come up with something totally new, the graphics may be pretty good too, i'd appreciate it even if it could just do something of the same level as the PS3 and Xbox without the screen tearing and the masses of sudden lag you can get from the consoles now a days, even if this source is bull, which it could be to be honest because in my opinion the HD controller just doesn't make sense, isn't that like a wii motion plus ? but if it is bull i still reckon Nintendo will pull a new console out of the hat this E3, the wii isn't bringing in the money anymore compared to previous years, i've got 2 tv's in here because playing wii on the HD tv looks crap so i've got an older one, it would be good to finally throw it out, i'm not expecting anything really breathtaking from Nintendo, but i'd be pleased to see it happen because the wii just feels so pre-historic especially when you remember buying and playing the Gamecube on the day it came out.
Ninja Wolfman on 15 Apr '11 said:
I hope this is true, its about time we had a new console, and hope this will now speed up the process of Sony and Microsoft next year to bring forward a new generation.
We might even see Digital Distribution go into full swing or a new type of storage format released e.g HVD.
Maybe Apple will come into the frame as well??????
justforkicks101 on 15 Apr '11 said:
exciting days ahoy game lovers !
buffig on 15 Apr '11 said:
Even if it is more powerful than the PS3 or Xbox, which is to be expected, developers will still be making the same games for all three. These games will be pegged back by the lowest specced machine. Until all three really move up a gear, we wont see a whole new generation of games. The reason it is important that all manufaturers advance technology at the same time is the ammount of cost to devs to fund this shift. Sony and MS can wait another couple of years yet, and when they do make a move we'll be back here. Nintendo will have an underpowered console, which will outperform Sony and MS on cost.
Balladeer on 15 Apr '11 said:
I can see a lot of people jumping on the hype machine here, and I can't help but feel that there will be a lot of disappointments doing the rounds. Let's ignore the silly men who think they know something and wait for the official announcement, hm? That way we don't have to make sadfaces when Nintendo don't release a 3D HD VR machine with a hooker strapped in.
sweatyBallacks on 15 Apr '11 said:
Er...N64. AND Gamecube....
Do try and keep up dear...
Tingles dingle on 15 Apr '11 said:
I'm very doubtful that Nintendo will announce a new console at E3 this year. It just wouldn't make sense. Surely they'll just want to push the 3DS, which lets not forget is yet to get up and running in terms of unit and therefore software sales.
If they are indeed planning to launch a successor to the Wii in late 2012 wouldn't it make more sense for them to drop the price of the Wii (which I'm sure they can afford to do and still generate profit on every unit sold) to bump up sales through Q4 whilst actively pushing 3DS through the same all important period? Why distract consumers with talk of new hardware, whilst also giving rivals more time to react to whatever innovations it contains?
I think it's much more likely that they'd keep quiet and announce it next year with the exciting news that we can all be playing it by Christmas.
Oh, and as for the HD controller, all I can say is never try to predict what Nintendo will do with their hardware, because you'll be wrong. Just look at all the stories from before the DS, Wii and 3DS were announced. All those 'reliable sources close to Nintendo' that were just plain full of it!
I'm loving all this recent talk of new hardware though. About bloody time!
altitude2k on 15 Apr '11 said:
Erm...he said:
"with Sony and Nintendo banging heads, and MS joining in halfway through, when has Nintendo had the most powerful console out of the three?"
There have only been 2 console generations that all 3 have taken part in, and the GameCube was lower-powered than the Xbox in that generation.
sweatyBallacks on 15 Apr '11 said:
That's a good point. I mean the PC is multiple times more powerful than PS3/360 yet we don't see any games that express that.
But of course, first-party Nintendo games will utilise the full spec of any powerful new Wii 2, which is exciting.
sweatyBallacks on 15 Apr '11 said:
Well exactly.
The N64 was the most powerful console in the world when it was released.
Likewise the Gamecube was more powerful than anything when it was released in September 2001. It wasn't trumped until the Xbox was release 2 months or so later in America.
boskersrevenge on 15 Apr '11 said:
The DS and Wii were tripping over themselves with rumours and announcements and presentations, so it's plausible but agreed.. things were getting a little dull. Talk of a new home console certainly blows the cobwebs away
charliecheswick on 15 Apr '11 said:
I don't think i've been as excited about the launch of a new console since the Sega Master System was announced when i was a nipper. I posted yesterday that if Ninty's new console was powerful and had the backing of the big publishers it'd be the only console i'd need or want. Not in love with Xbox's or PS3's exclusives....although i do like Gears,so if the new Ninty gets the GTA's,proper Resi's and Battlefields,stack them all up on top of Mario,Zelda,F-Zero ect and i'd be near orgasmic!
The rumoured release of late 2012 is a bit strange. Why give the competition a year and a half heads up,bizzare really unless they plan to release it earlier than what's being touted ( PPPPPPPLEASE! ). Simply cannot wait for E3.
altitude2k on 15 Apr '11 said:
Ok then. Nintendo had the most powerful console, once, for a couple of months, in any generation that had the current players releasing consoles.
I hear they have a celebratory plaque on the wall with that written on
morikaweb on 15 Apr '11 said:
Anyone think these plans d not sound like Nintendo? Nintendo has never been state of the art and I doubt they ever will be.
The console these guys describe sound very very expensive, when Nintendo stays in business by offering cheap alternatives to the expensive guys.
peetay on 15 Apr '11 said:
but will it have achievements/trophies if not then no thanks
Balladeer on 15 Apr '11 said:
Nintendo 64.
buffig on 15 Apr '11 said:
Doesnt sound very expensive to me. The rumour says it will be more powerful than 6 year old hardware. They could probably sell that for little more than they sell the current Wii which is massively over priced considering their original goal was to retail at $99.
GunstarHeroX on 15 Apr '11 said:
Nintendoes what Segavoided?
I will buy this console even though the Wii was a monumental disappointment. Here's hoping for a traditional control pad, backwards compatibility with upscaling, and Mario Kart at launch. Can't resist new systems so I'll be in line for this on day one. Even though we know nothing about it yet...
laslowoodbine on 15 Apr '11 said:
I'm happy that people are excited about the possibility of a new Nintendo console but after owning all Nintendo's from thee Snes I have felt increasingly let down by the lack of good third party titles. The Wii was a horrible pointles buy for me, as was the Gamecube, the N64 had it's moments but they were too few and far between. I have been put off completely and I doubt anything they make anymore will turn my head back in their direction as they now have a new market they aim at. Shame as I love a lot of what Nintendo actually do, just another note I can't remember the last Nintendo that died on me. Wish I could say the same for Sony and Microsoft!
DoomGuy84 on 15 Apr '11 said:
I think the biggest problem for Nintendo now is how do they get away from the fun and casual market? It may just be me but i cant see 'hardcore' gamers, people who play Battlefield, COD etc for a living feeling at home on a Nintendo console. Yeah, we all love the Mario's and Mario Karts but can you see yourself playing the next Grand Theft Auto on Wii2? If you look back through ninty's history, their consoles have mainly been aimed at the casual market and the Playstations, Sega's and Xbox's have been aimed at the hardcore, and i think its likely to stay this way.
nuggit3000 on 15 Apr '11 said:
Except it wont be a powerful HD console (by todays standards) it'll be no more powerfull than an Xbox360 which is 6 years old and can be purchased for less than £100 today.
Nintendo will slap on some stupid gimicky controller and charge £200 for it.
milky_joe on 15 Apr '11 said:
He asked about the past 20 years...
It goes something like this in terms of power of major players.
Master System > NES
SNES > Genesis
N64 > PS1
XBox > GC > PS2
And now I hesitate because it'll cause a fanboy war...
PS3 >/= 360 >>>> Wii
The interesting part being that the SNES is the only generation 'winner' that was actually the most powerful...
altitude2k on 15 Apr '11 said:
Hate to be a pedant, but he did say 20 years AND specifically Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo competition.
And what self-respecting UK-dweller refers to the Mega Drive as the Genesis?!
ste hicky on 15 Apr '11 said:
the true hardcore: the importers.
rbt2 on 15 Apr '11 said:
The truly hardcore call it megadrive(jap import came first)
milky_joe on 15 Apr '11 said:
One who has obviously spent far too much time on other more American leaning gaming websites, creating a deplorable force of habit in the process.
ste hicky on 15 Apr '11 said:
nah,the true hardcore had a snes
sakaspuds on 15 Apr '11 said:
it doesnt say it features a touch screen, but if it did it could work for 'looking around' replacing what a mouse does in a pc game... if this happens i'd expect it to be more like the dreamcast controller which had a mini very basic handheld portable device that slotted into the controller, i'd have thought this is what nintendo will do, have the screen on there so you can take it with you to play on, then use it on the tv with the wii 2 when youre in the home, (i'd expect them to want a bit of the iphone/app market) basically nintendo have made so much money of recent years, that they can afford to make a really powerful next gen console, which will gain back some of the core players from sony and microsoft, and the backwards compatibility will retain the casual players that they have gained this generation, i'd expect it to be fully 3d, with a slim chance of it supporting the new superhd formats (Ultra HDTV, 4320p) bluray is a must, unless they have come up with something that holds even more data, but i'd expect bluray and with it bluray (movie) playback
sweatyBallacks on 15 Apr '11 said:
I still don't get what you are trying to argue about.
Nintendo has released the most powerful home console on the market more than once. But no, not in any generation that has had all of Micrsoft, Sony and Nintendo releasing consoles. Which is just two generations of consoles...
My point is that I'd be very, very suprised if any Wii 2 is not more powerful than PS3/360, which is half-decade old tech.
altitude2k on 15 Apr '11 said:
Is there such a thing as a Kotaku-exorcism? A Kotaxorcism?
rbt2 on 15 Apr '11 said:
I had a super famicom.
ste hicky on 15 Apr '11 said:
sweet,i was gonna go there. you agree then? that'll do.
if you imported the likes of FFVI and chrono trigger you can say what you like. i did so i can.
rbt2 on 15 Apr '11 said:
Had CT but not FFVI. Always preferred the snes though.
nuggit3000 on 15 Apr '11 said:
Why, they released the Wii 2006 for £180, which is little more than a gamecube (released in 2001 for £130)
Nintendo have proved that they can sell old tech with the right marketing, so why would they spend billions making it more powerfull. They will stick to the same image they have now, with cute cartoony graphics (Mii's), so wont need a lot of power.
My money is on a similar machine to Xbox360 with motion controllers for over £200, and I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt even borrow the Kinect idea.
dubplate240 on 15 Apr '11 said:
Good news if this is true, will keep us all occupied until MS and Sony release their next gen outings. With 3DS and NGP there's a good amount of hardware releases fro the forseeable future then. No waiting till 2015 for a new piece of kit. Result.
monty_79 on 15 Apr '11 said:
The next Nintendo console will be considderably more powerful than the 360/PS3, I promise you.
The only way they will be able to break back into the core gamer market will be to release something with more omph. Now would be the perfect time as they would be able to release game such as Battlefield 3 which would look more like the PC version than the two home consoles.
You forget that Nintendo are a brilliant technology company. Forget the Wii as the object of it was to capture everyone else who didn't play games, and they achieved exactly that; and didn't need a powerful processor to do it, just a bit of innovation.
I reckon AR is going to play a big part of it, with the possibility of VR at some point as well. VR headsets will be nothing like how they were in the 80's, they can be made (comparitively) cheaply, and we are currently at the point of producing screens which are 30% transparent. I wouldn't surprise me if at 2015, they release a pair of glasses which plug into the 'wii 2' and offer a combination of AR and VR.
steven_h1 on 15 Apr '11 said:
Never mind a new console. Nintendo need to address their shocking online effort first.
Windowlicker79 on 15 Apr '11 said:
No, wrong again! The TRUE hardcore had a Jap Super Famicom 18 months before the SNES was even released over here!
ghuk on 15 Apr '11 said:
Ahh the Super Famicom, I remember purchasing an RGB scart converted machine from Console Concepts in Newcastle Under Lyme, it came with Super Tennis and Area 88 if memory serves me correctly
I had a Megadrive as well at the time and to this day I still remember the first time loading up Super Tennis and being blown away. It literally made the games on the Megadrive look pants.
There was something about the Jap games which were so impressive, the box art was out of this world as were the instruction booklets in colour! I remember the sheer excitement every time a new game turned up in the post, F-Zero, Pilotwings, Super Mario World, Super Castlevania, Super Ghouls & Ghosts, Streetfighter 2, Axelay, Super Contra, Super Bomberman, Super Mario Kart were just a few I had. In fact I had something like 32 Jap cartridges at one time.
Then when the SNES came out in the UK it was a different story, all games came with dull box art, black and white instruction booklets and games which ran slower and with massive black borders at the top and bottom of the TV screen.
Anyone who calls themselves a 'hardcore' when they purchased an inferior UK machine just dont have a clue......
ste hicky on 15 Apr '11 said:
the fact the ct and the best FF didn't hit over here made importing a no brainer. the one thing i'd say for the pal snes is it was the jap shape,the us one and carts were ugly as f*ck.
the only thing i'd ever say for pal snes games is for super mario kart: the single player was better in europe with a reworked ai system that was much tougher than the ntsc version. still,the s**tty 50hz conversion killed it,dead.
same for the n64 in europe. anyone who played mario kart 64 or f-zero x in 60hz would've been horrified at the state of the pal versions.
alan666 on 15 Apr '11 said:
sounds pretty cool to me.
rbt2 on 15 Apr '11 said:
Same for Wave Race. My mate bought his kids a pal N64. His copy looked like the skidooers were going through treacle compared to mine.
ThePriceisRight on 15 Apr '11 said:
I remember my Dad went to America when i was about 9 and came back with super mario bros 3 and another game for the NES. I was so excited , got my mate over , put the cartridge in ,clicked it into place and to my horror it didnt work - noooooo!! All I got was the start screen but it was just rolling up and down
It was a sad day , region locking was something I was not aware of as a nipper and I'll never forget it. I had to wait what seemed like forever for it to be released in the UK but it was worth the wait .
On Topic , I cant for the Wii 2 !
ACCESSALLAREAS on 15 Apr '11 said:
If any console needs replacing its the Wii, and it's falling sales (down 31% in January) supports that. It should really be released by the end of this year not 2012. My PC is getting on now and I would definitely consider buying a console if the tech inside was future proofed (no disrespect to the current consoles). Whoever releases a console that outclasses the others will spark the competition to release their's, so really the Wii 2 is cause for excitement.
Barca Azul on 16 Apr '11 said:
Have CVG merged threads?
I see cross platform releases going up, but could be held back by 360 and PS3. It should be more powerful, these are 5 years old.
Will it keep up with a PS4 or 720/Xbox 3 though?
Touch screens are yet to be good, ill wait and see! Interesting though.
AJDarkstar on 16 Apr '11 said:
"HD" probably just means hi-res, ie, it'll be tiny but with small pixles. Some consider the iPad screen HD, but it isn't, as that implies a minimum res of 1280x720.
sevvybgoode on 16 Apr '11 said:
It was easier years ago... You didnt have "Core" gamers or "Casuals"... You had PAL or NTSC gamers.
PAL gamers were muppets.
Anything decent, especially on the SNES, Saturn, N64 eras was US or Jap only. The speed issues were insane as well.
I dont know how anyone really enjoyed a PAL saturn barring Saga or Sega Rally.
Anyone remember when CEX were the cool import/retro store and not the lovechild of cash convertors and GAME?
The_Jaster on 16 Apr '11 said:
Too many label flying about for my liking...............you have Gamers & only Gamers. (albeit some play a little less than others)
justforkicks101 on 16 Apr '11 said:
Gamers & only Gamers +2
I hate all that i r core malarkey
cybersensual on 16 Apr '11 said:
Maybe the HD Controller screen will be used in conjunction with the TV screen a bit like Silent Scope. Or maybe it will be used to augment reality around the TV screen. Could be a day two purchase for me.
briangriffin on 16 Apr '11 said:
late April fools?
sevvybgoode on 16 Apr '11 said:
Tbh i hate the core/casual stereotypes. Take a look at my GT for proof of my sad obsession with platformers...
Some of those titles would make me a "casual"
Back on topic though im quite excited by these rumours. As someone mentioned above Nintys achilles heel this gen with gamers is their terrible online service. They could really do with ripping off MS and announcing that before controller specs. A decent online service mixed with some of their established brands would be awesome.
If they had Fzero at launch then i dont care if it costs a million pounds and stabs you in the eye with a pencil.
Fzero with 16+ gamers at once in HD? Sold...
ste hicky on 16 Apr '11 said:
as long as it's a proper f-zero like x and not that sega dev'd s**te from the cube,i agree.
proper soundtrack,tight as f*ck courses,30 player gp's.
oh and no weapons like they were gonna do a few years back. it's got to be pure racer or f-zero will have to classed as dead.
sevvybgoode on 16 Apr '11 said:
To be honest id be happiest with a HD remake of FzeroX and a silky smooth framerate if it had decent online.
No cluttering the courses with tonnes of background detail just make it faster than the speed of light.
And agree no weapons...
ste hicky on 16 Apr '11 said:
+1 for hd remake of the godlike x.
improve the draw distance,remove the fog,higher res. oh and bring the course editor back from the 64dd expansion kit.
throw in a remixed guitar arrange edition soundtrack like this too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KReRO15-mgw
quick one: i've got f-zero 64dd running on the wii as a vc title in 60hz and full wavebird compatibility. it's my own rom hack and works damn well. plus it's got the x courses that we never saw like silence 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYFJtflmWTA ,mute city 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k4HyxUm ... re=related ,etc...
i've also got a custom edition designed by the f-zero world champion with a whole new set of courses running on the wii too.
Windowlicker79 on 16 Apr '11 said:
Here's a thought. Nintendo has always promoted the Wii as the console for "casual gamers", hence the focus on family friendly games (even more so than on previous Nintendo systems) and easily accessible control systems over graphical polish and fast processor speeds. It could have been released as a stop-gap to allow Sony and Microsoft to release their next gen consoles so they could watch how they perform. It would allow them longer to develop their proper "next gen" system. A 2012 release would mean they could release an affordable system much more powerful than PS3 or Xbox 360 a full 3 years before Sony or MS plan to release their next efforts.
Maybe this could be seen as Nintendo's next "proper" gamers console? If this is the case then it would be an incredibly smart marketing ploy. They will have gained a huge number of new casual/family customers that may have otherwise never played or purchased a games console (most of whom will undoubtedly upgrade their Wii to the new backwards compatible system) as well as retaining all the more "hardcore" gamers who will rush to buy a new proper Nintendo console (which, if rumours are to be believed, will be the most powerful console available on release).
If they can successfully appeal to both markets like this then it will sell enormous numbers.
sevvybgoode on 16 Apr '11 said:
That sounds quite cool. Might search for the DD stuff if i get another Wii...
I loved the N64. Comes second in my top 3 consoles. (1: Saturn, 2: N64, 3: SNES)
ste hicky on 16 Apr '11 said:
if you get another wii,give me a shout and i'll send you my custom wads to install to the system menu.
i don't know anyone else on the planet who's pulled it off on the wii,sure someone else has done it by now though.
it's a bit trickier than getting snes starfox 2 running through snes 9x gx anyway.
cdrepoman on 16 Apr '11 said:
What's with all this talk of an HD controller? I'm looking at my old Wii controller right now and it looks pretty HD to me.
Metal_Value on 16 Apr '11 said:
Tbh I reckon all these rumours are completely off the mark, although I believe it's possible for the new Nintendo console to be at least as powerful as the current HD consoles (They ARE over 5 years old, after all), I don't believe that Nintendo would put something like a screen on a controller, and then another rumour stating it'll be used for extra buttons... Na, it just sounds too dumb and far-fetched to me.
Roll on e3 though.
extracurricular on 17 Apr '11 said:
This is all awesome news really. Even if the new console is just a bit more powerful than the 360/PS3 it doesn't matter. Sony and MS are probably only just starting to break even with their consoles and have only just released their motion controllers and have yet to release killer apps for them so they won't be in a rush to bring out new hardware. Especially while their consoles are still selling and people are happy with them.
Nintendo are moving away from the casual market as they've shown with the 3DS, their a business and can see when its time to get out. MS seem to have taken over that role. I'm damn excited for the new console and you can bet it'll pack something cooler then just full HD and HD controller screen.
Gonna be another awesome nintendo E3 for sure!
Riisez on 17 Apr '11 said:
Anyone ever notice that everything Nintendo releases is usually just a prototype for something bigger? No doubt that all the DS systems thus far, including the 3DS, is just an elaborate testing for a handheld that fits into your shoe soles. Wii 2 is probably just going to revisit Rob and the Power Glove, which I have to say I wouldn't be totally against seeing as that would be... FREAKING AWESOME!!!
rak49 on 17 Apr '11 said:
Real time light saber star wars game, this is the only thing that could get me to buy the WII2...is the Wii 2 not potentially the wiiii?
thekingsteven on 17 Apr '11 said:
the controller sounds OK . id like to see a way to use the 3Ds as a controller ! now that would great !
maybe make a card to put in the 3Ds that lets it connect to the WII2 now how does that sound!
jtthegame on 18 Apr '11 said:
hmmm new consoles to come out is not what i want at the moment and if they do its about time they did them fully backwards compatable instead of messing about. i am sure they can up the power of new hardware and allow all the predecessors games to run on the system. i know wii runs all gamecube games but they did not up the power very much i am sure they can do both.
ratbrainz on 8 May '11 said:
I grew up on the original NES, and still have a special place in my heart for Nintendo. I must admit the N64 was the last Nintendo system I liked. Everyone has different reasons for gaming, but there are some trends in Nintendo that have put me off: Where did all the 3rd party developers go? Remember when the NES and the SNES had tons of great games of all different genres? You had everything from darker/grittier adult oriented games as well as family oriented (mario-style) games, and everything in-between! Remember all those great RPG’s !!!??? The Wii’s motion controller based games are fun to a point but all the gimmicky shovel-ware has got to go (and that includes kinect and move titles as well!). Another thing that bothers me is (brace yourself fanboys…) the graphics. OK LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR: I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE STYLE (I actually love ALOT of games that are cartoony and/or retro styled like Castle Crashers, Mega Man 9, Mario Kart, Geometry Wars etc). I’m talking about RESOLUTION! I know some people don’t care but I honestly ask yourself a question: If Nintendo had two Wii’s sitting on a shelf, exactly the same price except one was an HD Wii with a blu-ray drive etc. and the other was a traditional wii, which would you walk out with? Remember when the SNES came out and the sounds and colors just blew away everything else you had ever seen? Remember when you could go to the store and find pretty much every great game that was out on your Nintendo? You have to admit that almost all the great games for Nintendo based systems these days are the 1st party titles! Sure there’s a few other gold stars out there, but these golden 3rd party title are few and far between. I truly want to return to Nintendo, but I need Nintendo to return to Nintendo first…Show me a powerfull system with wireless broadband, blu-ray, HDMI connections (lose the rats nest of wires it takes to hook up the Wii), solid and straightforward controller scheme (with OPTIONAL gimmicky motion control stuff), and a huge Variety of games to choose from (real games, not shovelware) including old school style action platformers like Mario, all the way to the newest Call of Duty in all of it’s multiplayer glory. Hey Nintendo: why not have your cake and eat it too? Just put out a solid machine and you can have me back.
Balladeer on 8 May '11 said:
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