Posted on Friday 27-May-2011 3:14 PM

Reborn PSN will be 'more secure than the competition' - Avalanche

Just Cause 2 developer has "a lot of confidence" in Sony

Avalanche producer Andreas Thorsen has put his confidence in Sony's reborn PSN, saying he believes the new network will outdo the competition in terms of security following the now infamous security hacks.

Asked whether the security of the PlayStation Network was a concern considering the studio's latest project, Renegade Ops, is a download-only title, he told CVG:

Renegade Ops Screenshot
"I haven't really thought about it in that way. I think the new system that they bring now will probably be even more secure than the competitors'. I don't think this is something that is unique to the PSN, it's just that this time it happened to them.

"I still have a lot of confidence in them," he continued, before pointing towards the studio's isometric, dual-stick blaster built with the Just Cause 2 engine. "I think PSN is a good target for this kind of game, I don't think it has that many games like this."

Thorsen went on to talk about how the PSN down time had effected the Avalanche team working on Renegade Ops, giving some insight into the blight of online developers over the past couple of months:

"One obvious problem was that we couldn't develop during that time. We had to stop PSN development while it was down," he said, conceding that delays have come as a result, with Renegade Ops being billed for a summer release.

Sony has today detailed a number of events to celebrate PSN's long-awaited return. Check them out and get involved.

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  1. budobear on 27 May '11 said:

    Please don't say that, if Sonys own silly comments aren't enough we don't need more people laying down challenges to the hackers!

    Just stop and let us get on with playing games!

  2. wildhook2 on 27 May '11 said:

    Don't jinx it.

  3. The_KFD_Case on 27 May '11 said:

    "Just Cause 2 developer has "a lot of confidence" in Sony."

    I don't.

  4. roynluc on 27 May '11 said:

    Just Cause 2 developer has "a lot of confidence" in Sony

    Someone has to, I suppose, as the majority of the gaming public don't. The way they handled the whole affair was diabolical, to say the least.

    And, to say that Sony's network will be more secure is borderline moronic. It's only going to give the hackers more reason to flex their fingers and put their talents to work again.

  5. aawells07 on 27 May '11 said:

    Yeah that statement wasnt a wise one i wouldnt be surprised if the hackers do it again just in spite

  6. Ludakriss on 27 May '11 said:

    Please don't say that, if Sonys own silly comments aren't enough we don't need more people laying down challenges to the hackers!

    Just stop and let us get on with playing games!

    Looool! I was literally going to comment in an exact same way just out of anger. Just when you think Sony might learn. Well, better dust off the old PS2 eh?

  7. fps_d0minat0r on 27 May '11 said:

    Just Cause 2 developer has "a lot of confidence" in Sony

    Someone has to, I suppose, as the majority of the gaming public don't. The way they handled the whole affair was diabolical, to say the least.

    And, to say that Sony's network will be more secure is borderline moronic. It's only going to give the hackers more reason to flex their fingers and put their talents to work again.

    thats why hardly anyone shut down their PSN accounts and ps3 has continuously outsold all other gaming systems for weeks despite being the most expensive of the lot.

  8. roynluc on 27 May '11 said:

    Just Cause 2 developer has "a lot of confidence" in Sony

    Someone has to, I suppose, as the majority of the gaming public, that count, don't. The way they handled the whole affair was diabolical, to say the least.

    And, to say that Sony's network will be more secure is borderline moronic. It's only going to give the hackers more reason to flex their fingers and put their talents to work again.

    thats why hardly anyone shut down their PSN accounts and ps3 has continuously outsold all other gaming systems for weeks despite being the most expensive of the lot.

    Fixed…


    I will never understand the blinkered Sony faithful. If my Live account was hacked in a similar manner to how Sony's network was breached, with Microsoft doing little in the way of giving information out and pussy footing around with lame, straw clutching excuses, I would most certainly consider gaming solely on a different platform.

    As it stands at the moment, I shall log into PSN, claim my free games, but leave the details of my deceased debit card to gather dust on their servers. I shall not be putting new debit card details in the hands of a company that can't be trusted with the information, that they said was secure.

    Once bitten, twice shy. Or so they say.

  9. timewarp1 on 27 May '11 said:

    ironically named after the AVALANCHE freedom fighters in FF7

  10. Fr33Kye on 27 May '11 said:


    Fixed…


    I will never understand the blinkered Sony faithful. If my Live account was hacked in a similar manner to how Sony's network was breached, with Microsoft doing little in the way of giving information out and pussy footing around with lame, straw clutching excuses, I would most certainly consider gaming solely on a different platform.

    As it stands at the moment, I shall log into PSN, claim my free games, but leave the details of my deceased debit card to gather dust on their servers. I shall not be putting new debit card details in the hands of a company that can't be trusted with the information, that they said was secure.

    Once bitten, twice shy. Or so they say.


    Idk i never felt like sony handled it badly. They are part of a federal investigation, after they had to confirm for themselves what occurred. The PR alone is devastating, why would they tell everyone before investigating? Why not be sure before alarming people? I dont know what was going on inside sony, but i know that they needed a plan. Despite that i don't think they handled it that badly. There were just too many rumors floating around.

  11. jim2wheels on 27 May '11 said:

    I think people are reluctant to part with something that they have invested good amounts of time and money in. Not to mention gaming relationships with online and real world friends, brand loyalty is a very real thing. I have no doubt Xbox/Nintendo owners would be exactly the same. I would also add that no one I know on psn, knows anyone else, who knows anyone (and so on) that has lost out financially.

    It takes a lot more than a few weeks offline for me to become a quitter.

  12. The_KFD_Case on 27 May '11 said:

    thats why hardly anyone shut down their PSN accounts and ps3 has continuously outsold all other gaming systems for weeks despite being the most expensive of the lot.

    Fixed…


    I will never understand the blinkered Sony faithful. If my Live account was hacked in a similar manner to how Sony's network was breached, with Microsoft doing little in the way of giving information out and pussy footing around with lame, straw clutching excuses, I would most certainly consider gaming solely on a different platform.

    As it stands at the moment, I shall log into PSN, claim my free games, but leave the details of my deceased debit card to gather dust on their servers. I shall not be putting new debit card details in the hands of a company that can't be trusted with the information, that they said was secure.

    Once bitten, twice shy. Or so they say.

    It does boggle the mind at times. "There are none so blind as those who will not see." :)

  13. united5876 on 27 May '11 said:

    Now its f**king jinxed.

  14. El Mag on 27 May '11 said:

    I think people are reluctant to part with something that they have invested good amounts of time and money in. Not to mention gaming relationships with online and real world friends, brand loyalty is a very real thing. I have no doubt Xbox/Nintendo owners would be exactly the same. I would also add that no one I know on psn, knows anyone else, who knows anyone (and so on) that has lost out financially.

    It takes a lot more than a few weeks offline for me to become a quitter.

    You must have missed the memo Jim. Anybody who keeps their PS3 after what's happened is a massive fanboy or one stop away from the nuthouse. You aren't allowed to enjoy the games it has, you aren't allowed to prefer it for the multimedia side of things and the fact it might be a better option for you personally. You have to agree with all those that oppose them's points or else you'll be branded a Sony lover, even if you acknowledge the severity of Sony's part of the screw up.

    Remember the days you could just come home plug your game in and play all night. The only worry you had was leaving your homework and getting detention the next day. Nowadays everybody has to have a favourite, they spend more time moaning about what others play than playing themselves, everybody is an analyst and they tell you your opinion is wrong because it doesn't match theirs exactly. It's becoming more of a war than a hobby.

  15. jim2wheels on 27 May '11 said:

    I think people are reluctant to part with something that they have invested good amounts of time and money in. Not to mention gaming relationships with online and real world friends, brand loyalty is a very real thing. I have no doubt Xbox/Nintendo owners would be exactly the same. I would also add that no one I know on psn, knows anyone else, who knows anyone (and so on) that has lost out financially.

    It takes a lot more than a few weeks offline for me to become a quitter.

    You must have missed the memo Jim. Anybody who keeps their PS3 after what's happened is a massive fanboy or one stop away from the nuthouse. You aren't allowed to enjoy the games it has, you aren't allowed to prefer it for the multimedia side of things and the fact it might be a better option for you personally. You have to agree with all those that oppose them's points or else you'll be branded a Sony lover, even if you acknowledge the severity of Sony's part of the screw up.

    Remember the days you could just come home plug your game in and play all night. The only worry you had was leaving your homework and getting detention the next day. Nowadays everybody has to have a favourite, they spend more time moaning about what others play than playing themselves, everybody is an analyst and they tell you your opinion is wrong because it doesn't match theirs exactly. It's becoming more of a war than a hobby.

    God knows how I missed it mate, it's been stapled to my nuts for a month or so. That will teach me to not wash more often.

    It's tiresome, but I feel compelled to argue back time and time again. Why is that? I wish I could be the better man and ignore the bulls**t opinions that get circulated. It's not like all forum members (and mods) are vetted before being allowed in, I guess we should know better at our age. But I don't want to bloody grow up, I'm not ready yet. I wonder how long the term "fanboy" has been around? What did we call brand loyal consumers before that? Dedicated followers? Sounds nicer than fanboy...

    Those days are long gone. Before this gen, the biggest gaming argument I ever had was who got the duff controller that had a sticky R1 button and stank of stale beer where p**s head Paul had yacked all over it. I had a megadrive, and my best mate had a Snes. We enjoyed both with equal pleasure.

    The Internet truly is a double edged sword. Still, at least we can exchange amusing cakes with tits and willies all over em. :)

  16. Reegeee on 27 May '11 said:

    @ Elmag , Beautiful :D

    The thing that made me think he didn't know what he was on about was this...

    isometric, dual-stick blaster....
    "I think PSN is a good target for this kind of game, I don't think it has that many games like this."

    Really?

  17. El Mag on 27 May '11 said:

    God knows how I missed it mate, it's been stapled to my nuts for a month or so. That will teach me to not wash more often.

    It's tiresome, but I feel compelled to argue back time and time again. Why is that? I wish I could be the better man and ignore the bulls**t opinions that get circulated. It's not like all forum members (and mods) are vetted before being allowed in, I guess we should know better at our age. But I don't want to bloody grow up, I'm not ready yet. I wonder how long the term "fanboy" has been around? What did we call brand loyal consumers before that? Dedicated followers? Sounds nicer than fanboy...

    Those days are long gone. Before this gen, the biggest gaming argument I ever had was who got the duff controller that had a sticky R1 button and stank of stale beer where p**s head Paul had yacked all over it. I had a megadrive, and my best mate had a Snes. We enjoyed both with equal pleasure.

    The Internet truly is a double edged sword. Still, at least we can exchange amusing cakes with tits and willies all over em. :)

    My biggest argument to this day is still who won the family winner stays on Mario Kart tournaments we had. I'll tell you the truth right now in case you hear any vicious rumours, it was me.

    The thing that gets me are the posters that obviously don't like a company and don't support them or own the product yet they go into every story to tell people they don't like them. I'm not sure about you but my idea of fun or decent conversation doesn't involve constantly calling something i don't like or don't even own, and then calling those that don't share my opinion wrong. It would be like you standing outside Starbucks every day yelling you hate them and slapping the coffee out of every customers hand that dare defy your obviously higher opinion.

    Fair enough those that have a PS3 and have had enough and choose to not use it or sell it, i'll respect their opinions. But people that don't own it and never will to get on a high horse and say anybody that keeps it is stupid, well their opinion is like a fart in a hurricane.... meaningless.

    I swear some people enjoy arguing about games more than actually playing them. Maybe they should just give up and find a new hobby they'll get something more than rage and bitterness from.

    I had a PlayStation and my mate had a Saturn, we never argued which had sold better. We'd play them both and enjoy the games we didn't have on our own system. Imagine that eh, we must have been crazy.

  18. jim2wheels on 27 May '11 said:

    Two things left to say about this.

    1: I used to own a Saturn, paid £400 for it at the time. This tells me two more things...
    A) my first line should say four things
    B) it makes today's prices look like a bargain

    2: The recent trend amongst regular forumites (which you started in my opinion :) ) of smashing fanboy articles with humour and/or nostalga is the way forward!

    I leave you with these wise words...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s0Fr01c ... ata_player

  19. sevvybgoode on 27 May '11 said:

    We didnt have the internet to fight over which console was superior years ago though. There has always been a common ground of normal gamers who enjoy any format but i still remember playground arguments.

    You was either

    Early to mid 80s -Speccy or Commodore
    Mid 80s to early 90s -NES or Master System
    Early 90s to mid 90s -SNES or Megadrive (Occasionally PC Engine)

    Then we started to get the internet in the late 90s and for the next few rounds ie Saturn / PS1 / N64 gen the fanboys appeared as there was a forum for the sods to spout their tribal insults at each other. Anyone use gamefaqs during the late 90s early 00s? It was mostly fanboys screaming at each other... :shock:

    Pretty much every console released has had great games on it but their has always been a group of nutters who refuse to play on another formats exclusives as its almost like cheating on their main piece of hardware. The console wont care you know people... She is just a machine.

    Monogamy has no place in games. Cheat on your consoles like the bitches that they are... :wink:

  20. jim2wheels on 27 May '11 said:

    http://www.omgn.com/feature/2010/08/02/ ... on-fanboys

    Pretty much sums it up. Good reading in my fanboy opinion. :wink:

  21. Zepf on 28 May '11 said:

    El Mag, you've hit the nail right on the head mate!

  22. LordVonPS3 on 28 May '11 said:

    How can anyone believe it will be more secure when day after day after day Sony releases yet another notification about yet another one of their sites being hacked? How many sites / systems has it been so far.... 6? More?

    If there were a number of sites or records that should qualify a company as being banned from collecting personal data then surely Sony must be near the bleeding edge.

    The Bank of America lost $10M worth of hard cash through a very recent data breach where an insider sold customer personal data to criminals, enabling them to steal customer's identities. Bank customers were finding their bank accounts were being closed then re-opened (balances transferred) and then pillaged (all done by the criminals). Also, boxes of blank cheques were ordered by the criminals, filled in then processed. Bank customers have since received a measly 2 years of id theft protection as compensation (no idea if their account info was rectified - I'd hope so!) and the US secret service has arrested something like 95 people in association with this so far.

    The Sony case may / may not yet have contributed to such a large amount of cash being stolen (i.e. is everyone actually checking their credit?). The opportunity for ID theft - thanks to Sony - not only still looms but actually increases with every one of Sony's sites that gets hacked and has personal information stolen. Why are any Sony sites holding personal information still up? The lesson has not been learned yet... Sony really should be banned from holding personal information altogether - by governments - for a number of years.

    Enjoy these folks...
    >>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-l ... ull.column
    >>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/ ... 10_million

  23. kmcroc on 28 May '11 said:

    Do these dumb asses at Sony like having their bums kicked cause this sound like a dare or a boost . why can't they just fix the issue & shut up about it .

  24. The_KFD_Case on 28 May '11 said:

    How can anyone believe it will be more secure when day after day after day Sony releases yet another notification about yet another one of their sites being hacked? How many sites / systems has it been so far.... 6? More?

    If there were a number of sites or records that should qualify a company as being banned from collecting personal data then surely Sony must be near the bleeding edge.

    The Bank of America lost $10M worth of hard cash through a very recent data breach where an insider sold customer personal data to criminals, enabling them to steal customer's identities. Bank customers were finding their bank accounts were being closed then re-opened (balances transferred) and then pillaged (all done by the criminals). Also, boxes of blank cheques were ordered by the criminals, filled in then processed. Bank customers have since received a measly 2 years of id theft protection as compensation (no idea if their account info was rectified - I'd hope so!) and the US secret service has arrested something like 95 people in association with this so far.

    The Sony case may / may not yet have contributed to such a large amount of cash being stolen (i.e. is everyone actually checking their credit?). The opportunity for ID theft - thanks to Sony - not only still looms but actually increases with every one of Sony's sites that gets hacked and has personal information stolen. Why are any Sony sites holding personal information still up? The lesson has not been learned yet... Sony really should be banned from holding personal information altogether - by governments - for a number of years.

    Enjoy these folks...
    >>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-l ... ull.column
    >>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/ ... 10_million

    Well said, Von, and completely on topic in my opinion. Thanks for the links.

  25. Fr33Kye on 28 May '11 said:

    There have been 6 more hacks? I think i know of two... The news after the psn fiasco was about a flaw in security on the ps blog, i dont think it was a hack. Then wasnt a server in thailand hacked? And something about a service provider hacked. There was a hack at square enix and codemasters, and maybe some other dev, i cant recall. I think this is more a matter of the spotlight on sony and hacks in general, rather than a hacker rampage. Or maybe there is a rampage. It makes sense to think psn will be more secure. After a hack wouldnt they make security stronger than everything on the market? Wouldnt other companies strengthen security in light of what occured?

    I think psn may get hacked again, hackers are good and many are assholes. Sony had up to date security, they just failed because they lacked a plan and becuase they were naive. They probably should have kept info offline when possible, or not at all, but many companies keep personal data, the spotlight is just on sony. Hacks are happening everywhere, all we can do is try not to antagonize the hackers, be prepared, and actually turn some anger towards the assholes that actually did the hacking.

  26. El Mag on 28 May '11 said:

    Anyone use gamefaqs during the late 90s early 00s? It was mostly fanboys screaming at each other... :shock:

    Jebus, Gamefaqs is a hell hole, especially the PS3 boards. The 360 owners spend more time on those then they do their own. I think this place has a few people that would probably enjoy it there alot more.

    Pretty much every console released has had great games on it but their has always been a group of nutters who refuse to play on another formats exclusives as its almost like cheating on their main piece of hardware.

    Sad isn't it. Some seem content to prove their loyalty to their 'team' by constantly bad mouthing the competition. Like they think it actually scores points and they're fighting the power by posting on a message board instead of making themselves look emotionally and sometimes mentally challenged.

    What makes me laugh are people that come into these stories and have a go saying how can Sony say these things. Well in this case and many others they haven't. This story was from a multi platform developer, yet some seem to miss that fact because it doesn't fit their agenda.

    The only console i don't have from the three right now is a Wii. I've never gone into Nintendo stories to constantly shove my reasons why i don't down anybody's throat. In fact Nintendo stories seem to be the only safe place to talk actual games anymore, it never turns into a 'i hate them so you should' or 'they're doomed' analyst willy waving fight. Just good old 'i'm looking forward to that' or 'i don't like the looks of it'.

    Tongue-in-cheek jokes and banter are always good, everybody's had a cheeky dig at a mate. It's when people step over that line into constant hate and bitterness you have to worry and think maybe it's time to step back, look at themselves and seek professional help. It's only a game.

    Monogamy has no place in games. Cheat on your consoles like the bitches that they are... :wink:

    I like it. It should come on a free sticker with every console :)

    On a separate note. Vanquish in only a tenner at sainsbury's, good game if anybody still enjoys those anymore.

  27. jtthegame on 28 May '11 said:

    i don't to the point where if i buy of psn i am gonna use the o2 money card i recently got

  28. davelk on 28 May '11 said:

    thats why hardly anyone shut down their PSN accounts and ps3 has continuously outsold all other gaming systems for weeks despite being the most expensive of the lot.

    So you did a survey of people???? I will just sell my ps3 and go to a company that doesnt have retards making up sales figures as flag waving fans.

  29. sevvybgoode on 28 May '11 said:

    Vanquish only a tenner at sainsburys eh? I might grab a copy when i do my big shop tomorrow... cheers el mag... 8)