Nintendo's confirmed that its new home console will be called Wii U.
The platform holder showed the backwards compatible console at its E3 press conference, and it features a touch screen controller, as CVG exclusively revealed earlier this year.
The Wii U supports HD images wirelessly transmitted between the TV screen and game controller, which has a 6.2 inch in-built screen, which doesn't support HD.
Each Wii U console will be partnered with a new controller and can also use up to four additional Wii Remote or Wii Remote Plus controllers.
Supporting video chat, the controller can also be used in conjunction with the Wii Remote, Balance Board and Nunchuk.
The debut demo video showed a player moving the game action from the television screen to the controller's screen. Even though it shares some characteristics, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said the controller hasn't been designed to be a portable gaming system.
Another scene showed a player 'drawing' on the Wii U touch screen and placing it on the floor to swing at a virtual golf ball.
"Previously, video games played on a home console have been confined to the TV and offered identical viewpoints to each player in a multiplayer environment," reads Nintendo's official release.
"Furthermore, watching TV and playing console games have been completely separate experiences. The new controller removes these boundaries, creating a more dynamic and fluid gaming and entertainment experience."
In single-player games Wii U can display information on its screen that does not appear on the TV, and change the information and viewpoint based on the orientation of the gyroscope, says Nintendo.
In multiplayer games the player using the new controller can have a different experience than those looking at the TV. This will offer a wide variety of competitive and cooperative opportunities, says the platform holder.
"Wii U redefines the structure of home entertainment by fundamentally changing how the TV, the game console and the Internet function and interact together," said Nintendo President Satoru Iwata.
"The experience enabled by Wii U and the new controller takes players deeper into their games, while reaching out wider than ever before to be inviting to all kinds of gamers."
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Mmmmgrolsch on 7 Jun '11 said:
gillri on 7 Jun '11 said:
isnt it just a new controller for the Wii?
Micheil794 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Makes PSVita look genius.
cheesebiscuit on 7 Jun '11 said:
looks uncomfortable
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
They made the name worse. Is it a console or just a controller or woot? Bit confused.
Frogster8 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Nintendo are stupid. That's an accessory, not a console. The crowd will cheer at anything. Its not a console, and this whole thing has been a let down, its just another gimmick. No thanks. Completely let down at them "bringing it back" somehow.
rick on 7 Jun '11 said:
I have no words
Dylaz97 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Just...WOW this makes Vita sound amazing what where Nintendo thinking!
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
Feel bad for people who were waiting for a new console
Damn, this is a goldmine of fail. f**k sake Nintendo! Where's de next gen visuals with classic games and grounbreaking ideas?!?!?!?!?!
silversun_111 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Looks like something from The Early Learning Centre.
cooloneuk on 7 Jun '11 said:
Now I'm baffled. Is this supposed to a brand new console or just an extra add-on for the Wii?
ChrisIW on 7 Jun '11 said:
It looks badly laid out
How are you supposed to use the right analogue stick without accidentally touching the buttons all the time?
The button layout underneath the right stick rather than above seems quite unnatural when quickly switching between buttons and right thumb stick on fast paced 1st person shooters and the like? Why fix what wasn't broken?
And the name...WTF...
rick on 7 Jun '11 said:
okay so is it a high powered handheld that can transmit to the tv?
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
Good point guys, I didn't even notice that there wasn't a picture of a console. Now I'm confused.
*edit* Okay, I saw a picture of it. They didn't really focus on that part of really. But in no way is this an add on to the Wii...
Frogster8 on 7 Jun '11 said:
According to the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... es-console
"After the demo was over Nintendo, bless it, treated us to a final element of cloak-and-daggerishness. We were told more facts about Wii U, which had to be read out and transcribed only onto paper.
So here they are: the console itself will run in full HD, via HDMI, but the touchscreen isn't HD. The console has internal Flash memory which can be augmented with "SD Card or USB solutions". It will play optical disks and downloadable content, and will be backwards-compatible with Wii software. And it will launch some time between 1 April and 31 December 2012.
It will be the oddest console ever, and possibly the best, too. Or it may turn out to be a complete cul-de-sac. But one thing is for sure: it won't just be another generic games console."
If that IS the case and it "connects via HDMI" they must also have a console coming they didn't show because the Wii doesn't have a HDMI port and the controller obviously can't be connected constantly. May still be some hope after all.
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
There is a console. Looks like the Wii and the old 360 had a baby.
jaycee900 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Nintendo that was a bad presentation that confused most people!
It IS a new console, they showed demo stuff that looked like Wii graphics for demo purposes, though it IS Wii backwards compatible, but in the 3rd party games trailer they showed the graphics what basically is on par with 360/PS3, so again Nintendo is a generation behind in graphics...
The console shape itself is very similar to the Wii, watch again the video in the background, its slightly different but not much...
Too me its innovation for the sake of it...won't bring much to normal gameplay, and for a handheld its too big and for tablet play its too small....I don't know what they were thinking with this but Nintendo needs to cater to its hardcore fans and not try butter up familys with kiddles tablets...
Faktor on 7 Jun '11 said:
Nothing like being objective eh?
Frogster8 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Further news! There is a console. It can be seen here
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/07/ninte ... this-week/
http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/file ... -small.png
And there
Its under the tele but its there, like a more rounded Wii. Thank god it isn't JUST that controller, I feel stupid for my complaining e-mail to them now.. Still, the controller analog sticks ARE very weird. I won't be buying this on launch day for sure, wait it out a bit, see if it is another Wii.
damoxuk on 7 Jun '11 said:
There is a new console. That controller is what the wii-remote is to the wii-u (wii 2).
It just lets you continue playing on that weird controller on it's 6" screen after the wii-u is off.
kimoak on 7 Jun '11 said:
I was lead to believe that they just didn't show the console. They were showcasing the controller for the console. I mean, it's a high def more powerful machine. The final design for it looks to be not complete yet maybe.
And looking at some of the games announced, they look to be looking for the hardcore market again. Well I am excited if no-one else it. Miserable buggers.
alan666 on 7 Jun '11 said:
there are pictures of the actual console on other pages here on CVG.
i dunno this controller looks very cumbersome to use to be honest
dannyhulse on 7 Jun '11 said:
It is just the Controller, not the Console.
During the entire section of the conference, Reggie constantly refered to it as the "WiiU Controller"
Personally, I kinda like it I could work, I will have to see much more though, I;m not ready to write it off just yet like many here already have.
Squall5005 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Did you people even watch the conference?
Ofcourse there is a console to go with it.
Where were you all when they talked about HD graphics, 'true online experiences and backwards compatibily with all Wii games and peripherals.
And here's alittle pic of Nintendo's new machine incase you're still having doubts
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/the- ... t-console/
cooloneuk on 7 Jun '11 said:
Hi ppl. There is an actual console. They just made the focus on the controller. It just looks similar to the Wii in looks and size. It just looks like a beefed up Wii console thats a little curvier. Gimme bout 5 to 10 mins and I'll post the picture I have on here.
Darkwun on 7 Jun '11 said:
they mention the console several times in the conference, there IS a new console and this isn't just an attachment. they have just stuck to revealing the controller and the ideas plus a few new games. rest assured, they werent wii games and developers talked much of the "consoles" new power. they also commented about how the wii u (really? isnt portable and the controller streams direct from the console
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
I feel like the first impression they put forward was showcasing a game that can be play both on tv and the controller seamlessly. But with this apparent news that the controller isn't hd, then that would explain the Wii type graphics for that feature. Still though, I think it's great. When they announced Batman, and Battlefield I was impressed. I feel like this system could just be an in between thing before they launch something even more powerful. Look at how cheap it is for them to make the 3DS, I wouldn't doubt that the Wii U will be cheap to manufacture as well. I really wouldn't doubt if they had another console in the works to compete at the next level with PS4 and Xbox 720 when that time arrives....
Headsrinker on 7 Jun '11 said:
I thought it was gonna be a full on next gen console? Thats what all the hype was? Oh well, looks like we wont see any next gen consoles for 2 years or so at least.
I presume this hand held 'U Wii' wont match up to the 360/PS3?
MPH on 7 Jun '11 said:
I hope Zelda looks that good on the Wii U. Didn't get to see it all live.
Fr33Kye on 7 Jun '11 said:
Its a console guys. I actually liked it quite a bit. I want a screen in my controller NAO. I see a few game ideas, maybe not as much as move yet, but this could be a revolution. Analog placement is weird and it seems you probably won't be able to afford two controllers. I like the use of the wiimote and wiiu in combination its kinda like the patent sony made the other day, but its uses are limited. We'll probably just see a lot of what is seen on the ds. I really like it being used as a tablet! Who the f**k is naming these consoles?
djhazardous on 7 Jun '11 said:
Has anyone posted a high resolution image of the console yet?
NEO_SUPERMAN on 7 Jun '11 said:
This looks crap.
What a massive let down.
They went from bringing in loads of new gamers with the wii, to alienating everyone with the wiiu.
Let's put my pad on the floor and then use a wiimote and nunchuck and then watch tv. Can't see grandad messing around with that crap!
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
Basically, what I got from this was as follows:
There's a new console and controller. Confirmed
It's capable of current gen graphics or it may be adapted versions
No idea on hardware
Nintendo managed to give us a show centred around their new console without conveying to anyone that they'd actually made a new console ..... and the internet cried "wtf is it?" in unison.
spam23 on 7 Jun '11 said:
wee poo! hahahahahalawlolteehee
also - is the controller the console or wtf?
0boz0 on 7 Jun '11 said:
What a disappointment.
Trying to find a gap that doesn't exist.
Im about to watch easterners, but WAIT my girlfriend is playing Mario, disaster.
What do I do kick her off?
Watch TV in the other room?
Play Mario with her?
Get her to stop, and Play the 3ds, vita, ipad, laptop?
No I don't have to I have to the Wii U is here, life averting crisis avoided.
kirankara on 7 Jun '11 said:
It's a console and controller folks . The controller can play games on it away from being hooked up to the tv too, but noy in full hd like when hooked upto tv( although doesnt need that kind of res in a six inch screen),by seamlessly transmitting a signal to it. It sounds a good idea in theory, but I'm a little unsure about using that controller.
They got some big devs and publishers in board already producing games, so they clearly got their interest .
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
And what also remains to be seen is if these analog nub things can match up to a game like Battlefield 3's experience???? It feel like no, but I want them to for sure.
sevvybgoode on 7 Jun '11 said:
The controller looks like an ipad and NES pad had a baby..
It looks frikking awesome though and although for the first part i honestly thought it was just a new pad for the wii when they started showing the new stuff starting with that weird bird tech demo i was sold.
Being able to turn over the TV for the missus's Holby or Eastenders without stopping playing is possibly the best idea of all time. Arkham city on the lav? Yes please!
My main hope is it can stream more than one game to multiple controllers at a time...
matty2000uk on 7 Jun '11 said:
It is a new console, which admittedly they never actually said but the controller was always going to be the focus. I'm actually more annoyed we didn't see any of skyward sword except some clips in the orchestra bits.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
Agreed, after that bird tech demo, I was like "oh wow!"
Gaseous Snake on 7 Jun '11 said:
Yes, the same as we call the Dualshock 3 the PS3 controller. There is a console.
Some people are just unbelievably dense.
ricflair on 7 Jun '11 said:
I was thinking the same thing! Brains are there to be engaged!
I'm split at the mo to be honest.
Clusks on 7 Jun '11 said:
The conference wasn't exactly clear about the Wii U.
I don't really care about the name, it'll be irrelevant when the console actually comes out. At first I thought the touch screen was HD, but according to the Guardian it isn't.
I liked Nintendo's conference more than Sony or MS, but there were quite a lot of things left unanswered about the Wii U. Just saying that there is going to be a new Smash Bros. without even a logo to put on screen with somewhat bizarre...
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
No, I think it was just easy to forget about the console, BECAUSE THEY REALLY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT !
I mean they did, but it just wasn't very visual....
MPH on 7 Jun '11 said:
The U logo looks like a Smurf advertisement for Durex.
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
Not at all what I expected to be honest. Kind like Nintendo trying to jump on the wagon of the end of this gen and play with some new ideas. I'd rather see them just do their own thing totally, stand apart and unique. Think about it: they've basically designed another current gen console, appears up to date visually and comes with a snazzy tablet.
I don't feel they blew away anything other than cobwebs. I think the new console SO FAR, appears well below their ability. It's like a 360 with Wii games. It may turn out to be powerful, we'll see, but so far, I dunno how long it's life will be
Squall5005 on 7 Jun '11 said:
I'm just checking out the technical specifications.
It's using something called HD-DVD's. Sounds interesting....
Ali_ on 7 Jun '11 said:
What an absolutely terrible console idea. Combining a Wii HD with a PSP-u-like but you can't use it as a portable as it can only receive streamed media? Utterly idiotic. The worst console launch I've ever watched.
TOKEN on 7 Jun '11 said:
Its wii onlive and playing games over the internet where consumers loose the option to buy cheap preowned.
i dont like it and for me sony had the better E3,i mean ninty could change my mind but im not ready for onlive type service,i like buying discs,for me this is nintys way(ms follow suit) way of not using bluray.
DrGR on 7 Jun '11 said:
Hmmm....Bit deflated now. I think the main problem is that the "normal console controller" aspect of it seems to be the bit that has been tacked onto the "innovative screen".
I think something a bit more half-way house is needed to truely make it "hardcore friendly", cuz I love the idea of inventory / map on the controller. And what about something like team based FPS (not online) with peoples personal screen showing the action if they step out of the TV screen? It has potential.
I'm not going to start on the name - every potential contender I heard of in the lead up to this was better than WiiU.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
One, I wonder what the battery life of the controller would be like, and two, I wonder if there would be ANY portable possibilities for the controller?
andy3050 on 7 Jun '11 said:
so it is a brand new console, people shouldn't jump to conclusions without watching the whole thing.
I'm expecting the design to change when the console itself is revealed, of course they would make the prototype have a wii look to it so that they could keep it all a mystery untill next years E3.
i think it won't be a day one buy for me, i held out on buying the 3DS to find out we will get vastly more powerful vita for the same price. i will hold out on buying wii u until we find out that PS4 and Xbox 720 will have the same types of controller only better and have far supperior graphics all for the same price
Ali_ on 7 Jun '11 said:
Pretty certain it has no internal CPU or GPU. That would step too much on the 3DS's toes. THis is just a streaming device.
kirankara on 7 Jun '11 said:
All I know is that if it offers me an upgrade to this gen and can give me a better version of bf3 that runs in 1080p , I'm sold till the ps4 etc comes out.
I like this more and more as I think bout it
Laughlyn on 7 Jun '11 said:
must admit is was a confusing presentation. They didnt really clarify that it was a controller to a new console but since the wii isnt HD and can no way reproduce the tech demo of the bird flying or the awesoem looking zelda.
Admitedly teh name is dumb as s*** but everyone said that about the Wii, altho Wii-U is quite horrid.
The idea of it sounds really good but in majority games i see it being not much more than a full color Dreamcast VMU and its also something that nintendo have doen before with the GC and GBA linkup with 4Swords.
I'm ju7st happy that Nintendo have brought a console upto specs with the rest of the gamefield, the only downside with that is there is already a huge playerbase for PS3/360 that have moved on from wii to a HD console thanks to Move and Kinect so getting teh old Wii players back from PS3/360 is gonan be a tough job in a similar way the Gamecube struggled to draw players in by being too similar to its competition.
Al no doubht be buying one cos i've had every nintendo console since NES and hopefully it'll get more attention than the dusty wii sat under my TV next to a not so dusty and overused PS3. Personally tho teh 3DS games are ones that am most looking forward to now, Super MArio 3ds just looked amazing and MArio Kart will guaranteed to be awesome them 2 games will keep me busy for ages
Megatrons_Fury on 7 Jun '11 said:
The name is terrible everyhting else is either amazing or has HUGE potential.
Don't ever back against Nintendo it seems, it may take them a while but they get there in the end. I have to have this next year if the hard core game demos were that of the real thing and not just mock ups.
Nintendo win E3 by a landslide, new console, games actually released this year and Luigi's mansion 2 and a new smash bros.
The presentation was definately confusing but since then i have looked around on other sites and seen other things so now its all a bit clearer to me.
I did however love uncharted 3 and resistance 3 from Sony as well, time to start saving my money..... Or robbing banks maybe?
pRM8 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Why didn't they just show us the damned console along with this new controller? WTF are they scared of? They kept telling and showing us what "this system" can do without actually showing us the system.
The controller is interesting but might not be the most comfortable to use for a long period of time. I really hope much more info on the actual hardware will surface this week.
I'm interested to see what this Wii U can bring but one thing is for sure, the name is s**t.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
This from Game Informer....
"The demo was not hyper-realistic, nor was it the greatest thing I’ve seen in the current generation of consoles, but it was definitely beautiful, crisp, and far above the visual quality possible on the original Wii. Also of note, the same visuals that appeared on the TV were being emulated on the controller’s screen. Nintendo informed me that the controller’s screen is not HD itself, but it’s so much smaller than an HD TV that it’s difficult to tell."
Lewismmartin on 7 Jun '11 said:
Makes kinect look s**t then again so does my toilet bowl
Balladeer on 7 Jun '11 said:
Name is s**t, everything else is still up in the air. A bit more definition wouldn't have gone amiss, but then Nintendo has always been one for secrecy. It's not the Überconsole that everyone on board the hype train expected, but it's not the disaster they're all claiming now either.
jrb251990 on 7 Jun '11 said:
I don't understand why people aren't talking about the zelda project Nintendo showed for the Wii U. I mean it looked amazing and it was miles ahead of what the Wii could do. We have seen the future of Nintendo and while we won't be able to experience the Wii U until 2012, I personally cannot wait to play it.
djhazardous on 7 Jun '11 said:
I thought it was good. The name too, certainly better than PSVita, now that's a rubbish name.
The graphics look to be on par with PS3 and 360 so unfortunately they will still be behind a generation in terms of graphics quality.
None the less I like that there's a screen on the controller and what I saw using it in games on the TV, I thought of Silent Scope.
I'm looking forward to seeing some Nintendo games on it, until then it's too early to judge.
They better make a new F-Zero on it, preferably by Amusement Vision again.
random123456789 on 7 Jun '11 said:
how can some people be so retarded? it is a new console, that gets plugged into a tv like any other. what we saw was just the controller.
cult on 7 Jun '11 said:
I have never felt so underwhelmed about a new console launch.
Nintendo just out did itself by jumping the shark and hitting the giant crab, outstanding!
The vita and ps3 as a combination just crap all over this.
I came, I saw I meh'd.
LadiVengeance on 7 Jun '11 said:
well i take it this is Nintendo dreamcast there gonna go just like sega did......
TheLastDodo on 7 Jun '11 said:
Think I'll be avoiding the Wii U, all this presentation showed me is that I would be spending around 200 quid on a console that offers me nothing more than my PS3 can offer me, just without the PS3 exclusives I love to play.
I don't want to play games like Battlefield 3 on a six inch screen either, the streaming idea is very cool I'll admit but if I want to play Battlefield 3 I'll play it on my 32 inch HD TV where I can experience it in all its immersive glory. It's not about convenience for me.
Big anti-climax after the merely ok Sony conference. So far EA has delivered my fave conference followed by Sony but I've only seen Sony, EA and Nintendo.
L1NGARD on 7 Jun '11 said:
Couldn't Sony do the exact same thing with the PS VITA on PS3 and then PS4 in the future and use it as a controller etc? The vita is more powerful and it has the rear touch pad etc. I really think Sony will and as a result nintendo will be to late by the time they realese Wii u.
PseudoDuck on 7 Jun '11 said:
So many opinions, hard to express them all.
Name is awful. Not laughable awful - because people eventually got over "Wii" - just looks uncomfortable. Too many vowels next to each other when you write it down: Wii U.
Terrible console reveal overall. All they showed were Wii games using the WiiU controller. 10 minutes on twitter during reveal and no one was entirely sure whether the new console was actually a console or just an "upgrade" for the Wii.
One thing that has people "interested" is the weird-ass controller with that unecessary (IMO) screen. But how long is the power going to last in it? Will it take batteries or will it need to be charged from the console? Exactly how uncomfortable will it be - designed like a tablet but with a large area of buttons at the side, meaning the touchscreen is too far away from your thumbs for easy access during a fast-paced game (like the majority of current gen games they showed). It could make it completely unusable for anything but exclusive titles.
It WILL have a massive amount of good launch games, because they've already been made for the 360 and PS3 and will simply need to be ported across. If you can call that a plus? A nice launch game would be something like the entire Assassin's Creed saga.
Nintendo's awful online connectivity history could be a major negative factor in appealing to the "hardcore" again. They NEED to make sure that online play will be easy to set up; not involve a 16-character string of numbers to play with friends; and offer something that PSN and XBox Live cannot.
Finally, by the time it launches we may have already seen sneak peeks of MS and Sony's next systems. So aside from the controller and first party Nintendo games, what is it really going to offer?
These are just first opinions, so if anyone can convince me that a lot of my worries are unfounded, I'd be grateful.
KMakawa on 7 Jun '11 said:
This is a new console, not a addon peripheral. It uses an entirely new 'console box' not the Wii that we have to this day, but a much smaller curvier box. It uses a motion sensor bar like the old Wii, and can also use the old peripheral's from the old Wii.
But essentially this is a console which has a touchscreen controller. Mixed signals from people, purely because it isnt understood right now -.-
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
I don't know about that, I think it's just a controller thingy...
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
As I alluded to in an early post in this thread, I don't think this is a long term console for Nintendo like the PS3 with a 10+ year lifespan. I believe it will just be a stepping stone to the next generation of consoles. Just my opinion though.
Balladeer on 7 Jun '11 said:
(bangs head on keyboard) bgghhyuyh
Look at the other threads in this forum. There are even pictures of the new console!
But I agree that Nintendo could have made it clearer.
LEEROY_UK1 on 7 Jun '11 said:
f**k me ! Some of you are really retarded, thats the controller for the console not the actual console !
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
I was being sarcastic.
Balladeer on 7 Jun '11 said:
Ah right. Apologies. But given the number of people who do think this on the forum, can you blame me for taking you seriously?
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
I wonder if there's a console or if it's just a controller? ...................
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
You are all "mentally challenged" for not getting that we all "get it" now. I never didn't get it, it was just confusion right after the press conference that they didn't show more of the console itself... like it was an afterthought of the whole presentation.
djhazardous on 7 Jun '11 said:
I want to know what one of those fkn controller's costs though!
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
Right, agreed, and thx. I just wanted to give that guy a little sh*t.
Balladeer on 7 Jun '11 said:
YOU f**king MORON IT'S NOT... Ohhhhh...
I c wot u did thar.
L1NGARD on 7 Jun '11 said:
Good point m8. They definetly won't come cheap. Thinkin around the 80 quid mark plus. What ya reckon?
El Mag on 7 Jun '11 said:
To be fair it was confusing with them constantly referring to it as "the new controller". But now we all know, so we wait and see what games the console brings. I'm just happy the 3DS is getting a new Luigi's Mansion, bloody loved the original.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Wii U?
........ 2012?
I don't like it... It's like a spiritual successor to the Wii. Well, it basically is a Wii 2.
The pad seems like a tablet with a couple of knobs on. I'm not sure what it's meant to be, but it seems neither are Nintendo. Any idea how heavy that's going to be or what it'll cost (any currency)? It's like Nintendo are continuing with the peripheral route... How about the main console, network services, not much detail? Trying to grab some of the games coming out on X360 and PS3 is the right thing to do, but Ninty will need much more support than what was on show.
This doesn't look good to me. Not good at all. It may sell to "casual gamers" though.
Balladeer on 7 Jun '11 said:
When the Wii sold so much, can you blame them?
StonecoldMC on 7 Jun '11 said:
This is what Garnett Lee just posted on Twitter:
GarnettLee: Doubters, the Wii U tablet controller feels great in hand. Nestles right into my grip"
Of course this is the tinterweb though and it just wouldn't be the tinterweb without people getting their knickers in a twist
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rbt2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Surely you jest?
That controller looks anything but casual to me.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
Yeah, unless they just have this amazing price for it. I can see it tanking on sales. Although the major advantage they have in their pocket is their market for children.
roynluc on 7 Jun '11 said:
I honestly see Sony copying this tech with their PS3/Vita combination. Then they will claim they did it first.
Someone in this thread said as much, but was going on, as fanboys do, about the PS3/Vita combination being able to do this better. Frickin' delusional.
f**king HATE FANBOYS!!!
MattyR95 on 7 Jun '11 said:
What is it with all these bad names? PSVita and now this.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Casual controller with casual games on a casual console.
I mean, you can play "Had" / "Tag" on it and you can see the other person? LMFAO. No, not casual gaming at all...
P.S. Is there a console or is it just a controller? ...................
shellster2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Well I reckon it looks good. That bird demo looked amazing and if that's the level games can get to then it's going to p**s all over ps3 and 360.
Nintendo should have shown us the console though as it appears a bunch of simpletons on this site couldn't make that leap.
Kezwar on 7 Jun '11 said:
I was scratching my head all through the presentation as to whether it was a new console or just a fancy new peripheral but it was quite clear by the end that there is indeed a new console, it's probably still in the design stages though otherwise I'm sure they would have shown it.
I was really impressed by the demonstration personally, though the tech demo with the bird was a bit meh. Loved the tech demo with Link though. The idea that you can switch from the telly onto the controller really appealed to me. I think Nintendo have been really clever here, by making the controller backwards compatable with the Wii, it won't force casual gamers to fully upgrade to a new system, but obviously the hardcore, who do care about having all the extra spec, will want the whole package.
My first impressions are that it's a fantastic idea, but like with any good idea it's how you implement it that counts, but if you can trust in anyone, then it's Nintendo. My fear is that 3rd parties will struggle to take advantage of the controller, and will just use it in a gimmicky way, or not at all.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Bird demo. Right. We know that was footage direct from the console then... We know the resolution, frame rate, etc... Yeah. Make the leap - you did.
TheLastDodo on 7 Jun '11 said:
Why's it delusional? It's probable they'll copy it, it's possible they'll better it. Why not?
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
One thing we can say for sure is that the Wii U has divided opinions
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Where's the hard drive?
veato on 7 Jun '11 said:
I could be wrong but I suspect you would still play the game on the TV but the controller screen could have the map and/or weapon loadout, etc, maybe even the scoreboard.
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
Maybe it doesn't have a hard drive. Maybe it stores data on like sliced cheese or something! Maybe you can use it as a grill too! That slot on the front is cheese sized, makes total sense.
rbt2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
spot on.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
It's SD and USB with no HDD. Cheese would be a better idea than what Ninty are offering, so would bagels. I wonder what 3rd parties are going to do about game updates? Get the games right first time I guess....!
ricflair on 7 Jun '11 said:
I'm just glad some of you lot don't actually design games.
Use your imagination for a bit, when they first rumoured the screen on the controller I couldn't see it, but if 3rd parties go with it (which they probably won't as most don't have the imagination) then it could be amazing. And Nintendo haven't let me down in terms of a comfortable controller yet - they're not going to make something that is uncomfortable!
Regarding graphics, well we just don't know. They were hardly likely to spunk their entire information wad at E3 were they? And its hard to tell how good they are on a streamed video, even if youtube etc say its 720p.
I like how people are taking lack of info to mean it doesn't have certain things. Game updates take up very little space on the 360. If they follow the 360s lead, a few GB would take care of that.
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
I love the fact that consumers are "simple" for being initially unsure whether Nintendo's new thing was a console or just controller. They can just write that on the box when they're selling it sure! "If you can't tell what's in the box, you're a retard", and nothing else. I bet they'd sell tons like that. It might be the fact that Nintendo didn't actually give any clear idea whatsoever?! They messed up. They're only human, and Engrish is hard to follow.
If you're revealing a console, step 1, announce it, step 2 show it. Really easy.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
It's my impression that Hideo Kojima has been hinting at this possibility for some of the new or re-released MGS games? Hence they've already been working on this for a while now. While not exactly the same features as this new Wii U controller, he (Kojima) has mentioned being able to take your game from the PS3 with you on the Vita. And the Vita can go anywhere. One up?
Ps. One shape defines the other, as far as "fanboys" are concerned. Simply, you need a "fanboy" to make your angle work.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
* No multi-touch on the controller screen.
* No Blu-ray.
* No upscaling of Wii games.
* No mention of GameCube game compatibility.
* 2012-2017(?) for a console with no HDD?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432913
Bet it sells though.
L1NGARD on 7 Jun '11 said:
I was hardly going on about it. Just stating the fact that Sony prob will copy the idea and that it might be better as the vita is probably capable of more than there controller but then again i might be wrong. The idea of these forums is to express opinions and what you think. I'd hardly call it being a fanboy. Besides you said it yourself that Sony will prob copy it. Idiot.
TheLastDodo on 7 Jun '11 said:
I'm talking about when someone changes channel and I have to switch to the controller to keep playing, I don't want to play a game like Battlefield on a small screen, yeah its convenient that I can keep playing but its not the same experience I will get on a 32 inch HD TV.
And while your idea about controller screen sounds plausible, I wouldn't use it. If I had to take my eyes off the TV to look at the map I'll be killed so why would I use it?
rbt2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
For a console that, in many peoples eyes, has failed before it's even been released, it ain't half got everyone talking about it.
Judging by the number of views and posts on these threads.
roynluc on 7 Jun '11 said:
I was on about that you said it would probably be done better on PS3/Vita. Like Sony is the 2nd coming or something.
It is widely believed that the system is more powerful than PS3 and Xbox 360 and developers are very impressed with it. Then you come up with that nugget of info.
Learn to read properly, without skipping information, then we'll see who's the idiot...
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Here's that bird demo again... http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-wii-u/715112
Knock yourself out. Not for a second do I believe it was produced in real time by the new console.
rbt2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Imagine what Wave Race would look like on water effects like that!
shellster2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Wtf are you on about? He said it was a showcase of it's power. Get your dick out of your ps3.
roynluc on 7 Jun '11 said:
You would if Sony had shown it for the PS3....
You would've probably knocked one out yourself, too....
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
One thing that hasn't been touched upon is that it was reported that R* was on board to develop as well, however, they are noticeably absent from the press conference.
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
To be totally fair, as an innocent bystander with puppy eyes .....
The tech demo could've been a demo of the power of the DVD drive and not rendered on the console at all ..... it could be, face it! Feel free to go back to your conflict etc.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Only 1 Wii U controller can be used on the console at any time (with lots of Wii-motes)...
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-nintendo- ... 3141.phtml
In your dreams...! I think the scope for gaming with PS Vita + PS3 and / or possibly PS4 is better than what Nintendo has shown today.
Oh f**k off you t**t. Using CG video to promote a new console is typical.
cooloneuk on 7 Jun '11 said:
I guess it really makes sense for the next console to be called Wii U. It shows that Nintendo are turning the name Wii from not just a console, but a brand. It was only a matter of time since Microsoft did the same with Xbox and Sony with Playstation. Why not Nintendo?
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
About that info on one controller. That one sentence seems a bit vague in the article. It could be interpreted as in the case of using other peripherals. However, you would think that they would mention if you could have more than one Wii U controller operating at the same time.
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
Because cool, xbox and playstation are not slang for p**s
I agree with your thinking though, it's a very good point, I just think they should've come up with a new name first and then ran with that.
djhazardous on 7 Jun '11 said:
I don't think WiiU is half as bad as PSVita...
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
Agreed with Dj. WiiU is uninispired. PSVita is a biscuit.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Yes. The "tag" game (Chase Mii > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBJXEuuI1Ys) illustrates that the other gamers chasing the person are playing on the main HDTV rather than on Wii U controllers (they're using Wiimotes)...
The_Jaster on 7 Jun '11 said:
Well its certainly kicked off in here eh?
you can plug in external usb hard drives someone has to read a bit more & a little better too, where is that super awesome friend guy when ye need him.
L1NGARD on 7 Jun '11 said:
I'm impressed with the new console too but i (like many others) want the Vita and if i get the option to do what the new nintendo does on a ps3 then why would i bother with this new innovation if sony copy it and start showing it off sooner. We'd be playing games in a similiar way to the Wii U before its even realesed. I don't see the new console being that much more powerful than the current Gen either. But i really want it to be a winner. I own every nintendo home console apart from the Wii due to the fact it just didn't have the games and wasn't the leap that the loyal fans deserved so i'm really excited to try this out. Anyway thats just my opinion.
shellster2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
You really are one of the biggest bell-ends on this site, congratulations. Even if it was CG it is supposedly meant to be on par. Now f**k off and do your homework, mummy's calling you. Cocknocker.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
How many people are going to plug in external USB hard drives? I seem to recall that a couple of years ago a few games developers were complaining that they wouldn't make certain games for the XBox 360 unless Microsoft started including HDD's as standard (so Microsoft did).
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
Ladies ladies, calm down. Go back to smelling your fingers, there's bigger fish to fry here... wait. Maybe not!
djhazardous on 7 Jun '11 said:
Are you sure about that?
KippDynamite on 7 Jun '11 said:
Another machine without a hard drive? Sigh. This could all be good, but I'm not very tempted as I already have a few machines that could run the games they showed. And I imagine holding that controller properly (with hands on analogue sticks and fingers on all four shoulder buttons) would be extremely uncomfortable for extended periods of time. Prove me wrong, Nintendo, prove me wrong. Remind me of why I loved you as a kid.
The_Jaster on 7 Jun '11 said:
@LordVon
if some games require a hard drive then plenty of folk will buy USB drives, they are not exactly expensive or hard to get a hold of are they?
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
I'd be concerned that it'd be designed to only work with the official Nintendo hard drive if that were the case. No doubt they've got it susd, and if not, no doubt we'll hear about it for the rest of time
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
The few reports I've heard, the controller doesn't feel uncomfortable, and is light.
sevvybgoode on 7 Jun '11 said:
Maybe im wrong but im sure i read somewhere that the PSV wasnt powerful enough to run PS3 titles and as the hardware was so different you wouldnt be able to play your PS3 games on the PSV.
You could play games that shared info or possibly even game saves but it wouldnt be the same version of the game at the end of the day. When you think about it, it makes sense. Sony would have to have shrunk the innards of a PS3 and then chucked it in a PSV for them to run the same code. If the whole PSV-PS3 stuff was that impressive then Sony would have shown at least 1 game that offers this sort of functionality in their E3 conference.
Wii-U is different from what i can see in actually allowing us to do that. If it was capable of working at distance from the base unit then the whole PSV/PS3 superiority mentioned by some posters is a moot point.
If any of my shambolic ramblings above are true then the benefits of the Wii-U are quite striking really.
-You would only need 1 copy of the game on Wii-U, probably seperate PSV and PS3 versions for some sort of functionality
-Instant streaming of your game to the controllers screen. No starting up your PSV and then waiting for your wifi to share your save data.
- Possibly superior hardware graphically, if the Wii-U is more powerful then the PS3 then it knocks 7 bells out of the PSV. If thats true then Sonys "most powerful handheld in the world" accolade has just died after mere hours. Kind of like when the Jaguar XJ220 was the fastest car in the world for mere months and then the F1 Mclaren came out...
-It will have Nintys awesome back catalogue as well as the level of 3rd party support Nintendo havent enjoyed since the SNES...
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
"Wii-U is different from what i can see in actually allowing us to do that. If it was capable of working at distance from the base unit then the whole PSV/PS3 superiority mentioned by some posters is a moot point."
What kind of a distance are you talking about?
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Why not just buy a XBox 360 or a PS3 instead and get a console with a HDD? I'd be surprised if the X360 & PS3 haven't had another price drop by the time Wii U comes out.
TheLastDodo on 7 Jun '11 said:
Call of Duty is s**t and is played by snot nosed kids and casual gamers. Battlefield is a real mans shooter that real men play. Real men. Men.
Sorry I was just trying to help us move on from that heated bird tech demo talk
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The_Jaster on 7 Jun '11 said:
maybe because I already have access to a 360 & ps3.
sevvybgoode on 7 Jun '11 said:
Outside of the home for instance. Most cafes and pubs have Wifi now, would it be able to stream games/content through that?
Imaduck on 7 Jun '11 said:
Yeah .... TheLastDodo, with a picture of a bird, trying to make people forget the whole bird rage thing ... nice intentions dude, but eh, you may not be the guy for the job
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
No need to buy anything then?
Apparently not. Apparently the Wii U controller needs to be in the same room so no playing around the house.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
sevvybgoode:
I feel that you are right that the Vita won't be able to play a straight up PS3 game, however, I can see a game compressed and just knocked a notch or two down in the graphic department, all the while retaining the core game and being on the go with Vita. But I could be stretching things. At some point all will be revealed.
roynluc on 7 Jun '11 said:
This is what I was thinking.
Nail hit, well and truly on the head.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
Yes I can see that. Might take a bit to download, but would be worth it if it works right.
L1NGARD on 7 Jun '11 said:
Maybe im wrong but im sure i read somewhere that the PSV wasnt powerful enough to run PS3 titles and as the hardware was so different you wouldnt be able to play your PS3 games on the PSV.
You could play games that shared info or possibly even game saves but it wouldnt be the same version of the game at the end of the day. When you think about it, it makes sense. Sony would have to have shrunk the innards of a PS3 and then chucked it in a PSV for them to run the same code. If the whole PSV-PS3 stuff was that impressive then Sony would have shown at least 1 game that offers this sort of functionality in their E3 conference.
Point well made sevvy. The way i thought sony could work it if they wanted though would be in a similiar way to remote play with th PSP. Like u said u have to be within range of the Wii U to play the games on the pad. I really don't see how the New nintendo controller would be more powerful than the Vita. Imagine the price of the console plus the controller combined then buying a second one.
RandyChimp on 7 Jun '11 said:
Looks nice and bulky. I've always wanted to hold a giant block with a screen.
The_Jaster on 7 Jun '11 said:
That's a bit close minded is it not? How else would I be able to play all the great new Nintendo games if I didn't buy it?
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Not closed minded. That's the ONLY reason to buy it.
roynluc on 7 Jun '11 said:
Have you ever played an original Atari Lynx?
Kezwar on 7 Jun '11 said:
I'm 24 and play both, what does that make me? Some half-breed man-child?
The_Jaster on 7 Jun '11 said:
Yeah, Nintendo make great games that I enjoy but its not the only reason to buy it, I'm done with this topic now as I feel I don't need to explain to you my reasons for wanting the wii U.
Good Night.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Good. I didn't ask.
TheLastDodo on 7 Jun '11 said:
Well you got me there Duck
From Eurogamer:
Update: In a post-conference Q+A, Nintendo of America's Reggie Fils-Aime has revealed that the Wii U controller's touchscreen does not support multi-touch, being single-touch only, and also confirmed that footage shown in the third party showreel came from Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the games.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011- ... ecs-emerge
@Kezwar: It means nothing mate, I was just trying to take some heat out of the tech demo argument.
Kezwar on 7 Jun '11 said:
Was only jokin pal! Just cracked me up what you said. Don't argue on forum's, you end up lookin like a bit of a bell but sometimes it's hard when you're dealing with some of these extremely opinionated fan-boys!
veato on 7 Jun '11 said:
Eh? Why would someone change the channel when you're playing? And as it stands on Xbox/PS3 if (as you suggest) someone changes channel then you're f**ked anyway aren't you?
sevvybgoode on 7 Jun '11 said:
I wasnt saying the Wii-U controller was more powerful then the PSV. It looks like an Onlive style streaming effect to the pad itself but if Onlive could work with the distance from the servers and the home unit then possibly the Wii-U could stream games if you have a decent wifi connection?
I do feel that the PSV/PS3 ideas are a step too far. As mentioned above it would have to be a knocked down version that shares all code (PS3 emulating PSV code?) and i cant see it being as transitionless as the demos looked for the Wii-U.
I would quite like a PSV as im quite fond of my PSP phat but after seeing the Nintendo conference i have to admit im quite sold on the idea of waiting for the Wii-U.
Just the whole turning the channel over whilst still playing is a major selling point to me. Its either the wife with her soaps or the kids watching Cbeebies that steal the telly in the house. Not having to rush to a save point or even turn it off altogether is a real cracker of an idea...
The_Jaster on 7 Jun '11 said:
erm.........
now I'm done.
Jon Ahmad on 7 Jun '11 said:
And for all the negativity it gets, it will STILL sell like hot buttered popcorn on a cold winter night.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
A rhetorical question without expecting a reply. I wasn't really asking. It might surprise you that I couldn't care less.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
The only card Sony could pull, but this is a stretch. Is when selling a game, it comes with the PS3 disc, and the memory stick thing or a download code for the Vita version all for the usual price of a game. Perhaps $10 more. Then you are all set. But I really think that is wishful thinking, and they probably would've already announced that at E3 if it was going to happen.
roynluc on 7 Jun '11 said:
Sounds like my house.
rbt2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
So then Lord Von PS3....when are you pre-ordering yours?
TheLastDodo on 7 Jun '11 said:
Because thats the main selling point of the Wii U, you can keep playing your game through the controller while the wife or kids watch something on the TV.
My consoles have always been in my bedroom so I've never encountered the "relatives switching channels" situation as Glenn Hoddle would call it.
ricflair on 7 Jun '11 said:
Jesus. This thread...
It's a games console, it doesn't need massive amounts of storage. It's got flash storage, how much hasn't been divulged. Patches, if done properly, don't need loads of space, same with game saves. Only DLC/downloaded games would need extra space, so if you can attach an external drive to it (320GB external drives are about £35), then job done. The 360 can run games etc from USB, so I'm sure this can too.
Do people really think developers would be on board if they couldn't patch it??
Plenty of people, myself included, have a PS3 and 360. Hell I've even got a PC that plays games at PS3/360 standard. People buy multiple consoles that play 95% the same games that look 99.9% identical. At least there's a chance of more original features, maybe even better performance and the Nintendo exclusives, which for many (me included) are the best out there.
I love how something negative gets treated as gospel, but something that shows promise is bulls**t.
I assume you'll be able to play on the screen within whatever the range of the controller is. So you could play around the house, but you'd probably have to be in the next room or the room above!
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
I don't think it's too far fetched to expect to see PS Vita games become available alongside PS3 games.
WipEout 2048 will allow you to play cross-platform between PS Vita and PS3 (WipEout HD) for those tracks that are in WipEout HD, so the core engine is clearly compatible even though 2048 is running at 30fps on PS Vita (and WOHD runs at 60fps). There'll surely be more games that enable this kind of cross-platform gaming functionality and PS Vita versions of games that are pared down yet compatible with the PS3 versions.
KesMonkey on 7 Jun '11 said:
Because you can't buy Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros, Donkey Kong, and Metroid games for either the 360 or PS3. A no brainer really. Also, I'm sure that most gamers who want a 360 or a PS3 already own one, or both.
The biggest draw of Nintendo consoles has ALWAYS been Nintendo IPs. Nothing about this will change. This console is essentially a Super Wii (I wish they had called it that). It's the first Nintendo console capable of HD, and it seems to have rendering abilities that match, or even exceed the current gen consoles. So, not only will we get to play Mario and Zelda games in beautifully detailed HD, but we should see many 'core' games appear on the system too.
The Wii U has internal flash storage for game updates etc. There's no need to force everyone to pay more money for a system with a HDD included, when those who want to can simply use SD cards and USB storage devices.
The Wii U is backwards compatible with all your Wii games AND peripherals, and, like the Wii, supports four players with Wiimotes and Nunchucks.
And, on top of this, the machine supports one new additional controller that features a touch sensitive screen (that wirelessly displays video output), a camera, a microphone, speakers, accelerometers and a gyroscope, as well as a fairly standard dual analogue stick & triggers set up.
Reports say that the controller is comfortable to hold, and lighter than an iPad.
How, exactly, is this not impressive? I can't wait to buy one to add to my console collection.
And I'd be surprised if the Wii U wasn't half the price of the next generation machines from MS and Sony by the time that they're released.
Okay, so the new system doesn't feature a Blu-Ray drive, but I, and many people, don't ever watch a movie (or listen to music, or browse the web) on our games consoles. I play games on my consoles.
veato on 7 Jun '11 said:
So the problem you described is not in fact a problem for you at all then? Excellent point well made.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
ricflair:
I don't think anyone has been outright negative about it. Some people have been a little skeptical. Which I think should be fine. I think it's better to speculate than to just not think at all. Personally I'm intrigued by it, and want to know more and see more. So I'm not completely sold, but only in so far as a day one purchase or not.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
I agree with you 100%... but I think we could all agree, what's up with those analog nubs... jeez NUBS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
CriticalAndy on 7 Jun '11 said:
Grrr i hate ignorant morons. Why not just take a sec to get all the facts straight before having an angry fan boy rant. If they see it a such a non event then why are their knickers in such a twist? Hmmm? Also the Zelda clip was sexy
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
Just a thought, I wonder how many families out there have a Wii, and only a Wii. And when this hits the shelves, it will be their replacement to the Wii? I wouldn't doubt quite a few...
roynluc on 7 Jun '11 said:
If they're going to be the same as the ones on the 3DS, then bring it on. Brilliant analogue controller, they feel more precise to me for some reason.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
I don't know - when are you pre-ordering yours? Don't bother to answer that.
Sounds like you're making an attempt at damage limitation to me. Nintendo fanboy.
I wasn't very impressed with the list of developers highlighted at the E3 conference. I'd expect to see a lot more third party support but have to wonder why developers like Rock*, id and Activision weren't asked to comment as well. GTA V, Rage and Call of Duty?
Considering no price was announced it is hard to say whether the Wii U shows any promise or not. If the console and a controller will cost less at launch than a PS3 then I'd agree it is promising.
The_Jaster on 7 Jun '11 said:
hello I'm back again......LordVon "don't forget the" ps3, for something you seemingly don't like you are spending a real long time discussing it.
ricflair on 7 Jun '11 said:
Nintendo are my favourite console company lord, but I didn't name my account after them! In my first post I said I'm split about it - it could go either way, we need to know more.
No damage limitation. I just want a games console, not a media hub and I've always gone on about this. My 360 drive is full of installed games because it is necessary with the noise, and my 320GB PS3 drive is pretty much empty apart from game installs and the games I got free when PSN came back.
And no iD or Activision? That's absolutely fine by me.
flash501 on 7 Jun '11 said:
I like cake!
The_Jaster on 7 Jun '11 said:
http://www.ruethedayblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kirbycake04.jpg
here ya go flash.
El Mag on 7 Jun '11 said:
What kind?
I'm a chocolate cake with custard man myself. Don't worry if you're opinion is different to mine, it still matters just as much.
flash501 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Anything as long as it's not coffee flavoured. Why would anyone make a cake and then ruin the whole thing by making it coffee flavoured???
f**k you coffee!
mattant79 on 7 Jun '11 said:
I'm gutted,
I thought Nintendo where going to get back into real gaming (SNES is the greatest console of all time), I wanted a proper controller with triggers etc, Like the Xbox and PS3, I dont give a toss about a "HD screen", This console is the same as the Wii was, They have updated there last console, the Wii was slightly better than the Gamecube and this is slightly better than the Wii.
I think Nintendo have done the wrong thing here and they have concentrated on gimmicks and not pure gaming,
Gamers play Xbox and PS3, Kid's play Wii, Granted Nintendo have made alot of money with the Wii but as a gamer Nintendo was miles behind Sony and Microsoft and it looks set to continue, If i want to play real Nintendo games i'll get my SNES out!!
At the end of the day Nintendo dont want to satisfy gamers, they want to make money, its sad really.
OK rant over, sorry i was looking forward to E3 and Nintendo, I loved Nintendo and ive had 2 wii's but got rid of them, Nintendo's last great console was the gamecube, end of!!
sevvybgoode on 7 Jun '11 said:
I cant see how anyone can be annoyed at this showing. It's more powerful then most of us secretly thought it would be. It's going to get 3rd party support with most multiformat titles being ported in all likelihood. It will get new versions of ninty titles (and generally they're considered to be pretty good eh?) in full hd. It's far more innovative then anything else this e3 (kinect functionality for the sake of it and a psp with more Bacon strips...).
Come on people its new hardware and it looks good!
rbt2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
You're Irish. You should like potatoes.
And leprachauns.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
It's amazing how many people on these forums think it's actually worthwhile answering rhetorical questions, especially with a promise of lists - or withholding them. Everyone knows what Nintendo offers as exclusives, yes, of course I do, but it's not to assume you'll see those titles you've listed on the Wii U. The Wii for example never saw Pilotwings or F-Zero. I may have bought both - if Nintendo had actually bothered.
Again, most people would have said we'll get to play a new F-Zero and Pilotwings on the Wii so your argument is pointless when no games are actually known to exist and are playable on the Wii U.
Keep in mind as well, the Wii had the classic controller so using a Wiimote was not a necessity. The Wii U is compatible with Wiimotes, so again we may just see more casual games out of it.
For me, the lack of a HDD is going to be a sticking point for quite a few developers, especially those who want to sell games digitally (e.g. via PSN and XBL) but also for those who want to add content and patch games (e.g. Valve, Rock *, id, Activision / IW, etc).
Punters can buy an external drive - sure - but there's no way to know at the moment whether Nintendo will support DLC on external HDD's or memory sticks. You're simply assuming. Also, games developers may not want to take the risk with a platform that doesn't have a HDD as standard, a few have indicated along those lines previously.
Yeah, but not GameCube games and I have a few of those which I won't be able to play on the Wii U.
Turn your question on its head. Why is it impressive?
XBox 360 and PS3 gamers have:-
* PS Eye + Kinect.
* Headsets.
* Motion controllers.
* Dual sticks and triggers.
The touch screen isn't multi-touch and I'm not sure I want a touch screen controller anyway. It'll push the price up for one and it'll be easier to break if it gets thrown around for another.
Good for you. No-one is telling you how you should spend your money. I'm more skeptical and from other forums it appears a lot of people are too.
HALF the price? I would... You can't seriously think the Wii U will ship for £250 or be at that range and expect XBox 3 / PS4 will ship for £500.
Maybe *you* play games exclusively on your consoles. I use my consoles for a variety of things and that includes games. Games which come in both download and disc format...
Nothing I've seen at this E3 conference inspires me to buy a Wii U. Until Nintendo shows us more of their IPs actually running on the new console - with confirmed official release dates - I'll definitely hold off.
El Mag on 7 Jun '11 said:
And Paul McGrath?
That gets right on my nerves when i buy a bag of Revels though. Having to bite all the medium sized ones in half to check if it's a coffee or not. Complete gits.
sevvybgoode on 7 Jun '11 said:
Screw you flash! Coffee cake is the best!
It's far more innovative and as US sales figures show it is more popular amongst the core crowd. Plus it has in game chat...
TheLastDodo on 7 Jun '11 said:
So just because its not a problem for me, means it's not a problem for others?
Look at how many people have said its a good idea in this thread, obviously there's a problem.
My original point was you will lose part of what makes games like Arkham City and Battlefield 3 great, immersion. On a regular TV you can have a quick glance at your HUD and still be aware of whats going on around you in the game. You will break that immersion every few seconds you glance down at the Wii U controller screen if scoreboards, HUD's etc are placed on there rather than your TV screen.
flash501 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Crispy? Is that you??
And Paul McGrath is a legend!
yerbluesjohn on 7 Jun '11 said:
What's all this talk about storage? You can add an external USB HDD, so if you wanted a 1TB drive it would cost you about £50 and you can just plug it in. Compare that to the 360's storage options.
I'm with ric, the negativity surrounding this announcement is irritating. A lot of it seems to be based on wrong information or failure to understand what was actually shown.
roynluc on 7 Jun '11 said:
yuzi87 on 7 Jun '11 said:
************ The flying bird demo was controllable by the controller and the angle of view could be changed which means the Wii U was rendering the video and it wasnt a cg video**************
flash501 on 7 Jun '11 said:
I'm more of a casual cake eater myself. I have to look after this fabulous body!
sevvybgoode on 7 Jun '11 said:
Haha... very good.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
I definitely don't want to have to look down at my controller for a scoreboard, map, HUD, etc. I don't see why Nintendo would force me to do that for a good reason. I don't see why this information can't just be available on the HDTV instead. Press start, look at the map, etc... I don't think there should be a controller screen at all, it's excessive and I don't see the value in it other than it will add a modest cost and allow Nintendo to overcharge for the controller as an additional peripheral.
The ability to change TV channel but keep playing on a hand held (controller) is pretty darn weak. The majority of gamers playing the Wii U will be kids playing in their bedroom. Most kids have TVs and games machines in their rooms. I doubt they'll want to play Wii U whilst watching the latest episode of in their room. More likely they'll pause the game, watch the show, then come back to the game. They'll do one or the other.
It really is pointless.
rbt2 on 7 Jun '11 said:
I'm more soggy than crispy.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
Psst... did you all hear about the Disney Kinect line up? *FIST BUMP*
sevvybgoode on 7 Jun '11 said:
I think more adults would be interested in the games on the pad thing than anyone. As posted before those of us with family's are always turning off games for the wife and kids.
I think the belief that Wii is usually played in bedrooms is false in my experience. Most of my sons mates (my son is nearly 11) have 360 or ps3s in their rooms but the Wii is by the main telly.
I live the turn over and carry on idea. I could even let the eldest play on it whilst the littlun watches her strawberry shortcake episodes. I think this idea is geared more at adults than any other demographic Tbh.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
More like simply point out that it was speculation in the first place...
FlimFlam on 7 Jun '11 said:
So... Nintendo get reamed for making a crappy, casual-centric and weak powered, non HD console in the Wii. They realise they alienated the core gamers with this, so their next console they go all out with the hardcore games, make it HD, and add that usual Nintendo innovation... and get reamed.
You people are funny.
Well I for one thought it looked boss, the thought of HD Zelda makes me moist, and all you miserable f**kers with nothing better to do than lambast it's admittedly lame name, lighten up.
A win for Nintendo I think, great show.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
As a way of getting one kid off the main TV - that'll work, but why not instead tell him / her to go play their PS3 / X360 in the case you highlight... or go and play outside?
Of course there's a single case for it but I don't think it's a great one. If it's just your son and daughter at odds - that's fine, but if there's a few kids playing in your living room, you're still out of luck as it will only work with the one controller. Someone will miss out and any group of kids will have to do something else.
TheLastDodo on 7 Jun '11 said:
I don't know, I think the touchscreen would be a godsend for the hardcore communities in LBP and ModNation on PS3. If I had the patience to build levels in LBP I could see the touchscreen being very benefitial, especially after watching the LBP Vita trailer which showed touch screen controls in the level creator mode which showed very smooth and responsive controls.
sevvybgoode on 7 Jun '11 said:
I don't let my kids have tvs or consoles in their rooms so everything barring handhelds is restricted to the front room. If you have 2 kids or 3 you'll still have arguments about turns or what they want to do. Then when they're in bed its the wifes turn to take over the telly.
Do you have a wife or kids? If you did id imagine this idea would appeal tbh...
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
The problem with your statement is that you're discussing editing levels on a PS Vita game, not editing on a PS3 game where the game is running on a HDTV. The PS3 version of LBP and ModNation Racers use the DS3, there's no real need for a touch screen on a PS3 controller. It's the same argument as saying you could use PS Move to draw / design your levels on a PS3, or doing something along those lines with Kinect on X360 or a Wiimote on Wii.
Perhaps the Wii U WILL get creative with enabling touch screen control but I don't see it as a requirement compared with what a Wiimote similarly offers in terms of functionality.
We've managed to play games without touch screen controllers for decades using standard sticks / buttons. Then we had motion controllers. I don't see a compelling need for a second personal screen (for one person) when you've got a nice big TV in the middle of the living room. I won't speculate how much the Wii U controller will cost but with the technology that is packed in, it'll surely be the most expensive console controller going. If Ninty wanted to go this route, I would have preferred if they'd packed the extra Wii U controller functions into the 3DS and let people use that as a controller.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Jun '11 said:
Fair enough regarding how you deal with your kids. Kids always argue - I agree. I'll warrant that as soon as a parent tells his kid to switch to the handheld mode because he wants to watch the football (or something) on TV - there'll still be some crying as the little screen isn't good enough, or the little screen has the stats page on it and the kid "needs" the stats page. It's impossible to win, even with this.
As for fathers dealing with things, well I think that's what man-caves are for... What can I say?
kirankara on 7 Jun '11 said:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011- ... u-hands-on
EG hands on, they seem to think it's pretty darn cool.
humanhand on 7 Jun '11 said:
I like you to count how many people "reamed" it! What? People here either just plain liked it or some where skeptical about some of the aspects of it. It just feels like you want to rant.
sweatyBallacks on 7 Jun '11 said:
If the Wii U controller is more powerful than the PSVita, I'll eat my own face.
That's what some on here are suggesting, but I just don't think it works like some people are thinikng. Let's wait and see in any case, and not to add fuel to the lastest Wii U + tablet controller versus PS3 + PSVita fanboy war that is brewing up nicely on the friendly CVG forums.
pRM8 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Hmm I have just had this horrible thought come over me. How much will these controllers cost separately?
Controllers never seem to last long in my house so I'm going to have to develop some sort of monk-style restraint every time I get p**sed off if I get this.
I would like to add that you cannot compare this with the PS3/PSV. The Wii-U is a console that has a controller with a screen whereas PSV is a standalone handheld console independent of the PS3.
The Bossman on 8 Jun '11 said:
I love the name. Here's your new catchphrase Nintendo - 'Wii - it's all on U'.
roynluc on 8 Jun '11 said:
You are joking? Right? It's brewing up the for the reasons that you have jumped in on.
They are saying that it streams the data off of the system, over its own wifi connection, to the controller, like onlive does over the internet, with no lag. It's not how much power the controller has, that's irrelevant, the controller is only a streaming device as far as the screen is concerned. It is essentially just a controller with a screen, it doesn't need to be powerful. Are you understanding of this language we speak?
The_Jaster on 8 Jun '11 said:
is this still brewing?
http://hojotea.com/img/howto_ool_002.jpg
roynluc on 8 Jun '11 said:
Obviously not yet, young padawan. You're only just pouring in the hot water.....
TheLastDodo on 8 Jun '11 said:
You can only use one Wii U controller with the Wii U apparently, so that'll save some cash with not having to buy one for each member of the family, it will all come down to how bad and how frequent your gaming rages are.
The_Jaster on 8 Jun '11 said:
@roynluc
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Cup_of_green_tea_and_tea_pot_on_table.jpg/220px-Cup_of_green_tea_and_tea_pot_on_table.jpg
roynluc on 8 Jun '11 said:
I'd prefer it a little less dark. Add some milk, no sugar and you're talking.
The_Jaster on 8 Jun '11 said:
Its proper tea though. (read as: Chinese Tea)
sweatyBallacks on 8 Jun '11 said:
Oh f*ck I didn't even read the specs of the thing, didn't know it acts as a streaming device as you say. I thought, er...
* walks out of room quietly
saintbone on 8 Jun '11 said:
I am always excited for a new nintendo console, but and there is always a but, is the games. It is always the same, very few and far between and the same stuff. They can flog a new mario, mario kart, etc now that it is in hd and Zelda HD looks awesome but we should have had it years ago. Nintendo need some new ideas for games and im not talking how we play them. At the moment i can see the Wii U being bogged down with crappy party games, and it will be, but Nintendo really have to get that 3rd party support like they said, otherwise it will be just another Wii.
MattyR95 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Nintendo are made out to be SO creative, but all they've done is use a portable as a controller for it. That's all. I also find it stupid how some people think Nintendo are the best because they've finally caught up. Yeah, Zelda in HD sounds good but it should have been done years ago. But the important factor is cost and it can't be cheap with controllers like that.
FlimFlam on 8 Jun '11 said:
Hardly a rant my friend, my point was that it would appear the knives are already out somewhat, or at least hovering in anticipation of being released at any second.
Perhaps you should go through and read the comments again. It's a little tedious (probably the most posted on thread I have seen for ages here) but I hope that would serve to highlight that I wasn't just 'ranting', I was legitimately surprised at the amount of people bemoaning it's name etc, instead of being pleased Nintendo have made an effort towards us, the core gamer.
I loved all my Nintendo consoles from SNES through to Gamecube (and still do, lovingly cocooned as they are in a safe place), but the Wii was a disappointment for me personally. I have hope this one will reignite the love affair I used to have with the big N.
ricflair on 8 Jun '11 said:
Don't worry, the hoo ha will die down soon, and the PS3 will get more attention again.
And maybe you haven't liked what they've done, but Nintendo are more creative than MS and Sony - let's see what the next xbox and PS offer beyond more power. Anyway, most so called gamers hate change beyond more power, so what else could they do if they didn't want alienate people with no vision/imagination?
rbt2 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Put together!
krazykunal85 on 8 Jun '11 said:
EXACTLY!
WII U.... I mean wot were they thinking? They should have called it (WII me you and everyone)!
TheLastDodo on 8 Jun '11 said:
Wii U-nderstand our core fanbase doesn't care about our crappy console names
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Queen Skillage on 8 Jun '11 said:
Wii U? Isn't that what Liu Kang says when he's fighting?
The_Hun1 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Seems to me that nintendo have jumped the shark in terms of new consoles.
a massive controller to use with a motion plus to controller some new games, seems like a waste, why not just use a 3ds as a pad?
i mean, well the pad looks like a reject from sega's gamegear line up crossed with an atari lynx handheld from years past, why not just call it the gameboy pad?
as for the console it looks like a fatter dc crossed with a old 360 with abit of snes throwen in for good measure.
Nintendo, stop trying to make hardware seem all new, and just go back to make games that are worth paying the price for, and when it comes to advertising for the ''new system'' here is a thought stop using launch games aka mario kart 5 years later.
the wii in my book seems to only have mario kart wii and well wii sports along with wii fit as games, i'll be damned if i have seen any recent adverts for any other games.
and don't even bother with a new version of zelda ocrina of time for the bloody machine......
freaky_seb on 8 Jun '11 said:
I finally worked out the inspiration for the name of the Wii U! Kung Pow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JElywbk ... re=related
El Mag on 8 Jun '11 said:
Must admit i laughed. Kung Pow was mental though, i think i've still got the tape hanging around somewhere.
humanhand on 8 Jun '11 said:
FlimFlam:
Understood.
hi0marc on 8 Jun '11 said:
Looks interesting and its affect on gameplay might be good, but it probably wont justify its price.
Im worried about the name, too, Wii U? I think the next console will be 'Wii Own U Suckaz!!'
pRM8 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Yeah the news about it came out after my comment and I have commented on the 'only one controller' debate in that thread. Silly if you ask me, if they were going to limit it at least make it up to two of those controllers for each console.
The console plus two of those controllers sounds like a much better deal.
RandyChimp on 8 Jun '11 said:
If it's anything like this, I'm in.
armbar on 8 Jun '11 said:
Shocking!
All this hype over a controller?
roynluc on 8 Jun '11 said:
Shocking, trying to constantly wind up other users for your own amusement, in threads you have no real interest in. You have been warned countless times, not by myself this time, but you are a constant annoyance to threads that have no bearing to you personally.
Armbar, hand in your locker key to the admins on your way out of the door. Armbar gone bye bye….
nottsville on 8 Jun '11 said:
Here's my thoughts on Nintendo's showing at E3.
http://thoughtsofagamingfreak.blogspot. ... tendo.html
El Mag on 8 Jun '11 said:
Here's my thoughts on E3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDi83T4wEf8
the elz on 9 Jun '11 said:
how does it connect to the tv? do you need a wii as well & its just a new controller?
if you do need a wii as well, & its just used for extra data, wasnt that done with the dreamcasts VMU units 12 years ago?
I need to know more....lol.
veato on 9 Jun '11 said:
This is a wind up right?
The_Jaster on 9 Jun '11 said:
Its a full console Nintendo just botched introducing it with to much focus on the controller.......here it is.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/25/Wii_u.jpg/250px-Wii_u.jpg
liveswired on 9 Jun '11 said:
Looks great, but if it's only slightly more powerful I won't be upgrading - especially as Nintendo's 3rd party support has been wickedly poor since the n64.
goggy on 10 Jun '11 said:
Only slightly more powerful, no3rd party support??
Did you actually bother to watch any of the presentation?!
Legrasse on 11 Jun '11 said:
Without having read any of the other comments, I have to say that I love the idea of having my inventory in front of me, and being able to quick-change between items and weapons. As always, Nintendo with the innovation. This has enormous potential, but I can't see it being as popular as the Wii.
Balladeer on 11 Jun '11 said:
Nice avatar.
That is all.
Legrasse on 12 Jun '11 said:
Wii thank U, good sir, yours is pretty smart too. X3