Sony's said the announcement of Nintendo's Wii U will likely inspire PlayStation Vita developers to replicate the same concept by linking Vita and PS3.
SCE Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida told Develop at E3 that studios are already carrying out "experiments" using Vita as a touch screen controller for PS3.
"Already people are starting to ask about linking Vita and PS3 to do something similar, in terms of using two screens, and having controls on the screen.
"That's very interesting, and we will have to experiment," he added, before suggesting that work is already, to an extent, underway.
"Lots of the things that developers of Vita games are doing, as you may have seen, is experimenting with connectivities between Vita and PS3.
"The Wipeout [2048] team came up with their cross play ideas, and the other Vita teams have come up with ways of playing with two systems. It's just a matter of time, as we provide the SDKs to developers so they can make use of both PS3 and Vita, and they might come up with something interesting."
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kmcroc on 8 Jun '11 said:
Someone feel like they being bitch slapped by the new HD console & it's creative ideas, so now the slapped wants the world to know it could do it too. bunch of F...... LOSER.
TOKEN on 8 Jun '11 said:
They can copy but they are not nintendo.
MD1500 on 8 Jun '11 said:
And now Sony will announce their new upgrade for the VITA.
The VITAlity Sensor
You heard it here first!
jsb115 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Now this is a much more interesting concept to me than the Wii U. Not only does the Vita provide its own processing power (and a fair amount of it) in comparison to the Wii U controller, but (unlike Wii U), both the PS3 and Vita can operate independently - something that Nintendo could have cashed in on if the controller could function as a handheld. Obviously, they're not wanting to dent their 3DS business, but it seems like an opportunity lost.
Barca Azul on 8 Jun '11 said:
Ill be happy if it remote plays TV and playing games on the PS3, if it does, ill buy one!
Why else would I want G3?
clayf1ghter on 8 Jun '11 said:
You won't be able to play ps3 games on the vita though which at the moment is the big selling point for me on wii u. Playing console quality games in bed ahhh bliss!!!
MD1500 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Everyone that buys the Wii U will have the controller and the console. So, the games can be made with that in mind as everyone will be able to enjoy the feature.
Not everyone that buys a PS Vita will have a PS 3. Not everyone that has a PS 3 will buy a PS Vita. So any games that connect the two will only reach a limited audience.
JakeyBaby on 8 Jun '11 said:
Excellent. Nintendo is still a generation behind the competition. Notice that beside nintendo games, all the old games the rest of us 360/ps3 users played 2-5 years earlier have been announced (Assassins Creed, Arkum Asylum). I wouldn't mind betting money that we'll see HD 'remakes' (see: re-releases) of Wii games.
Moribundman on 8 Jun '11 said:
I saw this coming the second they talked about the Wii U.
Vita looking like a very sexy piece of kit, which I will buy, and if they implement this properly I may just finally buy (my own) PS3.
Athrun888 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Ahahahahaha, I normally don't care about all this verbal fencing that the big companies do, but this just cracks me up, it's only been 24 hours and Sony are already thinking of a way to rip off Nintendo's idea. I guess after seeing the success of the original Wii they want to beat Nintendo to the punch this time.
Mark240473 on 8 Jun '11 said:
You could remote-play PS3 Lair through the PSP, so it is entirely plausible that you could play any PS3 games through the Vita.
It's certainly of interest to me, as a PS3 owner. However, that's not to say that I wouldn't want Wii U too.
jsb115 on 8 Jun '11 said:
I don't see why not - you can already do that on PS3 and PSP (albeit only with one game at the moment - Lair). I see no reason why with remote play we won't be able to stream PS3 games onto the Vita in time.
Edit: dammit, got beaten to it!
groble on 8 Jun '11 said:
I'm still a bit surprised by all these people thinking playing a game on a controller screen rather than a TV is some giant leap in originality. PS3/PSP remote play has been doing it for years, just not to the extent shown on the WiiU.
So basically nintendo have ripped off Sony's remote play and the ipad. where's the originality? oh that's right it's got a camera.
l1nc on 8 Jun '11 said:
I think nintendo should come up with a totally useless mock console made out of papermash at next years E3, and let everyone else copy it. in the mean time they can work on their next genius Idea. The Genius that nintendo are must get p**sed at everyone else copying em.
CDS on 8 Jun '11 said:
Already got a PS3 and will definetly be buying the PSVITA to replace my old PSP-1000.
So I'm up for it if it works and is implemented well.
Saves cashing out double of what the PSVITA's worth on a new console.
Laughlyn on 8 Jun '11 said:
its a new assasins creed and Arkham City not Asylum as well as likes of battlefield 3, altho BF3 will be a year old by Wii-U release. I'll be having a Wii-U to go with my PS3 and if something interesting comes out for teh Ps3/Vita then i may look at it as most mates have PS3s. As long as either of them uses the handheld parts as a motion tracker in Colonial Marines al be happy. i just want that steady blip.......blip.....blip..blip..bleeeeeep to add atmosphere to it
jsb115 on 8 Jun '11 said:
So Sony are copying Nintendo with something that they actually put into action with the launch of the PS3? PSP-PS3 interactivity has been possible for years now. Just because it's not used by developers doesn't mean the concept wasn't there and functional. I'd go so far as to say that Ninty are trailing on this one - they're not innovating, they're chucking a couple of extra bells and whistles onto the controller in the form of a camera and that second stick. Something that will already be in homes in the form of PSV by the time Wii U releases.
clayf1ghter on 8 Jun '11 said:
Oh really I didn't know that was possible if they do then I'll be getting both
Also if nintendo remake some of there wii games as someone mentioned earlier then all good for me I'd love to play the mario galaxy games all tarted up in HD o'vision with a proper controller.
RustySpoon80 on 8 Jun '11 said:
The PS Vita is a far better looking piece of kit than the Wii U's controller. Its just looks too kiddy friendly.
I hope they release the controller without the screen for 'normal' games.
jsb115 on 8 Jun '11 said:
I doubt it - there weren't any waggle-free wii games...
aj101 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Jesus people are stupid. I don't think Nintendo can claim originality on this one given the fact that it was already done on the PS3. However, the fact that Nintendo are pushing this style of interaction and game design and are in general applying their ingenuity to this paradigm is exactly what Sony will be copying.
It's like what Zuckerberg said in his film "If you guys were the inventors of Facebook, you'd have invented Facebook". Same goes here, Sony may have come up with the original idea, Nintendo are providing the 'killer application'. And I'm saying that with reserve as to whether or not it'll work but the hands on reports I've read so far are mostly favourable.
The_Jaster on 8 Jun '11 said:
Guess Sony will want you to buy two copies of the same game to make it work though. Ouch!
YCshinobi on 8 Jun '11 said:
You'll just have a classic controller pro, which is already available and compatible with the Wii U, we've seen many Wii games support Gamecube and Classic controller as optional uses, I'm sure we'll see the same for many of the games on the new system, supporting Wii/nunchuk and classic controller options.
OT the Wii U's concept is much more than just taking a game from the TV screen and displaying it on the handheld device, it was about combining the two, anyway it's going to be interesting to see what Sony delivers with the Vita and PS3 connection, and Nintendo with the Wii U.
infernoxXx on 8 Jun '11 said:
thats because it was 360/ps3/pc footage, and it was footage of games coming this year. how does that make them a generation behind the competition if they are getting the same games as the current generation?
Faktor on 8 Jun '11 said:
Haters, simple as.
MattyR95 on 8 Jun '11 said:
The concept was with the PSP and PS3 first anyway, so don't start moaning saying ''Sony copied'' and the rest of the rubbish. Nintendo has just done it on a much bigger scale. Still looks impressive though.
Izo on 8 Jun '11 said:
How did Sony come up with this idea according to people here when this connectivity was happening with FFCC and 4S back on the GC?
Anyway on topic the PSP varient of this idea didn't take off due to the fact that it's not packed in with the PS3 and this has the same problem they'll need a dedicated controller for this otherwise most developers won't really invest in this.
svd_grasshopper on 8 Jun '11 said:
dreamcast got there first with VMU
total gimmick though, and so is this.
although i'm hopeful i can play normal games like mario with a classic controller, no waggle s**te or webcam stuck on top of your telly.
The_Jaster on 8 Jun '11 said:
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/4/1/128831219502102430.jpg
rbt2 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Sony are acting like the kid at school who used to look over your shoulder to copy your work.
Mind you, last I heard, the kid that used to do that to me at my school is now working on the bins.
ricflair on 8 Jun '11 said:
I was going to mention this, but I think I've already defended the new console enough!
krazykunal85 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Try disabled-friendly... The Vita kicks A$$ .... its got style ... it doesn't look like a brick and its a nifty bit of gear too
Padua on 8 Jun '11 said:
That tech is what powers OnLive. Games are rendered on Supercomputers and then streamed to devices : whether that be HDTV''s, iPads or smart-phones. It is only a software limitation and I can't see why it wouldn't be possible on the PS3 ... other than Sony like you paying for two versions (three if you own an XPeria Play
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djreplay on 8 Jun '11 said:
But I will be able to carry on playing my game on the bus though, ha
The_Jaster on 8 Jun '11 said:
True, but I'll be happy with my 3DS.
I'm loving all this new stuff by the way.
RandyChimp on 8 Jun '11 said:
Sony are giving props to Nintendo for the good idea. Sony are saying they might give it a go after being asked by journalists if it would work. The Vita was revealed before anyone knew what the Wii U looked like, so you could say Nintendo copied Sony in terms of the controller design, but I won't go there. Vita looks less bulky and, let's face it, more awesome than the Wii U controller. Lots of people already have a PS3 and therefore, getting a Vita would be a bonus, but not a neccesary add-on, unlike the brick nintendo are releasing.
Fanboy rant over.
The_Jaster on 8 Jun '11 said:
wii U's been in development for 3 years.....people always borrow new tech anyway, mp3 players anyone?
kimoak on 8 Jun '11 said:
That's why I play Mario Kart with a Gamecube controller then.
You were given alternative control methods for a number of games. Especially the more traditional titles like Mario Kart that I mentioned. Monster Hunter Tri is another example. Not to mention all the VC games.
milky_joe on 8 Jun '11 said:
People are missing the point if they think the only thing shown off yesterday was a scenario where you can continue playing on the Wii U controller, and it's those extra things that set it aside from anything else...
Aside from the fact that you're talking about people buying one expensive thing versus two expensive things for partially the same result...
And then you have the fact that Sony could apparently do this with the PSP, yet nobody bothered be they gamers or developers, much like nobody bothered with linking up a GC and a GBA, whereas Nintendo would be offering it with every single game...
wwinterj on 8 Jun '11 said:
To be fair this is a great idea because the PS3 already has a normal control pad for those who don't care about touch screen. If Nintendo bring out a normal pad for the Wii U this would be great also. Choice is always great. I don't understand why people are crying about dev's copying each other or why they care.
I know the Wii has a normal control pad that should be supported with the Wii U and I hope Wii U games will support this.
Cazy008 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Thing is, is that the Wii U controller will not cost 250 quid like the vita.. Sooo, I think it would be on a much smaller scale if sony tried to copy.
photoboy on 8 Jun '11 said:
Invent your own ideas Sony.
RustySpoon80 on 8 Jun '11 said:
Yeah, I use the GC controller. The only problem being the shoulder buttons. It only has 1 Z button. Does the classic controller have Z1/2 like this does?
The_Jaster on 8 Jun '11 said:
Yup the CC & CCP has zl/zr buttons its also compatible with the wii U.
Cinaclov on 8 Jun '11 said:
It's all well and good talking about who ripped off who first, but remember that the original idea was around on the GC, connecting to the GBA, and that was an advancement of the N64 transfer pack and the SNES Super Gameboy. Seems like Nintendo's ripping itself off, if anything. Just this time it'll actually get supported
But besides the pointless fanboy bickering I can only see the fact that both could work the same as a good thing; it means more cross console games. If an awesome touch screen controlled game comes out on Wii U or vice versa it could more easily be ported over to the other, especially considering that there's no longer such a huge gap in the tech. And if that means having to buy less consoles to play fun games, fantastic.
potnoodle1 on 8 Jun '11 said:
I'd be surprised if Sony hadn't already thought of the idea of linking up the PS3 and Vita while it was still in the concept stage. They've already proven it worked with remote play on the PSP. Streaming PS1 games onto it from my PS3 worked a treat. Might be bandwidth limitations will come into play while streaming HD content onto Vita, but it's still entirely possible.
DSVIP on 8 Jun '11 said:
1) PSP Vita doesnt have 4 shoulder buttons, so somehow the trackpad and touch screen will have to replace, and it will be hard to play PS3 games. I doubt i will see that happening
2)And what happens if PS4/ps3.5 comes out? Then the idea will fall to pieces, psp2 will no longer play the current home console games for the same reason the 3DS isnt used to play wiiU games.
But 2 points for the idea:
1)wiiu is actually a scaled down version is this idea, not the other way round, because the wiiU controlelr is much cheaper than the psp2, and is incapable of anything if not in range of the wii. PSP2 can do a lot better
And 2) I dont see the point of PSP2 playing ps3 games anyway, as PSP2 games will already be as good quality, and by itself is home console quality gaming on a portabel console. Remote play is unnecessary, there is no need to copy nintendo sony.
SpandexArmstrong on 8 Jun '11 said:
Say what you will Sony, but like motion control Nintendo will be the one who make it popular & mainstream.
Also, gotta love all the 'Nintendo are a gen behind' nonsense talk! No specs have been revealed! What a bunch of narrow minded tools
Barca Azul on 9 Jun '11 said:
First off who cares who's idea it is. They all 3 copy each other and the consumer (us) benefit as a result.
I'd be really surprised if they didn't have remote play over 3G.
3G mobile can give you speeds of up to low adsl levels.
The biggest issue of remote play today is finding a free WIFI hot spot with a quick connection. 3G should solve this and surely its selling point.
If not ill get a slim for travelling.
shogunreaper on 9 Jun '11 said:
I know this has been said a bunch of times but the PSP\PS3 has done something like this for years, maybe not to this extent but with the PSP2 who knows.
Also it wouldn't be Sony who's copying it would be the developers, since the tech has been available for years Sony can't really be copying Nintendo..Just like they had prototypes of the psmove years before Nintendo had the wii, yet people still claim they copied.
The_Jaster on 9 Jun '11 said:
this was motion control too though (all though a rubbish attempt)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_doul98MmuIg/Rxekz2k3CfI/AAAAAAAAAD8/2U3nWeEz1cY/s400/nes_pg.jpg
maybe some are just too young to remember but the GBA/GC connected together also, but everyone in the entertainment industry borrows ideas maybe even improving upon them for example ipod wasn't the first ever MP3 player but it improved the initial idea.
ricflair on 9 Jun '11 said:
I really can't see how remote play over 3G would work. The speed wouldn't be such a problem, but the latency is far, far too great at the moment. Pings are in the 100's!
I'm sure Sony will have some features for it, and will be a great thing for those who use them. Hadn't thought about the lack of R1/2 buttons though.
liveswired on 9 Jun '11 said:
LOL SONY ARE AT IT AGAIN!
ashadian on 10 Jun '11 said:
I love it when the Ninteno fanboys all think Nintendo is the only company that innovates. Who copied going from sprites to Polygons? You should thank Sony for making gaming what it is today or otherwise we would be paying Nintendo £100 for cartridge games and not cheaper cds and dvds. Also we'd be playing the same Mario Zelda Kart etc. They can stick the motion control where it don't shine. The Wii has only one handfull of quality games and thats it. Nintendo abandoned the gamers for casuals or have you forgotten that?????? Nintendo should f**k off and stick with them now.
Nintendo have copied the NGP and an ipad! Apple already getting streaming with ipad and ios5 ans Sony have it with remote play.
rbt2 on 10 Jun '11 said:
Have this lolly. I got a window flavoured one especially for you.
liveswired on 10 Jun '11 said:
Who cares? lol
Sony weren't the first to shift to polygons - some games on the snes used polygons. It's a technological advancement that everyone HAD to make - I have a ps3/psp and 3ds - your comments are so ridiculous I laughed.
But I agree with the point you made about Sony making gaming what it is today. But all this talk about abandoning gamers for casuals - it had to be done for Nintendo to stay in the console business - they are a primarily a family entertainment company and their titles have changed with the times. But I'd rather Nintendo went the Sega route on consoles but still keep on handhelds. I'd love to have Mario Galaxy and Link running on my ps3.
The_Jaster on 11 Jun '11 said:
NO JUST NO.
also Sony making gaming what it is today???? all Sony done was aim for the teenagers to 20's market with the first Playstation which ended up bring all this stupidity with it in the first place in trying to make it seem like a cool thing to do.........I'm sorry but if you play games you are not cool you are a nerd & we all know a nerd trying to act cool is just wrong.
I know this will ruffle some feathers but I don't care I'm a nerd/geek whatever you call it & proud of it.
Balladeer on 11 Jun '11 said:
Shut up, Jaster. I'm cool. I know I'm cool. My mum tells me I'm cool.
The_Jaster on 11 Jun '11 said:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aRIk8Psus7w/S2NaeKvvJcI/AAAAAAAAAiI/zCnd32GhfNQ/s400/millhouse.png
jtthegame on 12 Jun '11 said:
All sony do is copy nintendo at least microsoft came up with its own thing with kinect
The_Jaster on 12 Jun '11 said:
..................and will we see it? but eye toy blah blah blah blah blah MS copy blah blah blah blah who is going to step up?
*waits with anticipation*
El Mag on 12 Jun '11 said:
Every ideas been copied from my grandpa.
Polos - his idea after he put a hole in a normal mint because he was bored.
Socks - he made the first ever pair from two of my grans old handbags to keep his feet warm.
Kinect/Wii remote/Move - his idea after he realised he could play Pong with the power of his mind.
The internet - his idea so he could get free porn and keep all the worlds stupid people in one place.
Temaze on 12 Jun '11 said:
This would work well with Fallout games. Your Pip-Boy could be constantly displayed on the Vita. Who cares if they're copying Nintendo. That's the nature of the business. One company develops something and the rest follow, with their own take on things. It's called progress and it's only going to be a good thing for consumers.
blinder21 on 14 Jun '11 said:
If you read what SONY said,he said it is very interesting and we will have to experiment.HE did not say we can do that ,the PS3 has been out a long time why didt they think of that when the psp was out,it could have shown the games you were playing on ps3 on your PSP.the whole point of this is you have not to get a PS3 and PSP2 to to get what the WII U does,plus when they were both made they were not setup for that.THIS is new SONY again has rip NINTENDO of same as they did whith PLAYSTATION MOVE.THE 3DS and WII u are two very differant devices,to play differnt games the PSP2 and the PS3 can play the same games the only differance is the psp2 touch screen and touch pad underneath.ALSO you can play all WII addons.IT is NOT somthing just thought up after someone els has done it then looked up an said we never thought of this its interesting we will have to exsperiment.ONE last thing im a gamer of nearly 40 years and i have had every single game device out,that means SONY,MICROSOFT,and NINTENDO. and many more. sorry about spelling.
bazmeistergen on 14 Jun '11 said:
I hope you are joking.
Call of Duty, Conduit 2, Wiiware games, Monster Hunter 3, GoldenEye, Virtual Console games, Donkey Kong Country Returns and loads more could be played on a regular controller.
CDS on 30 Jun '11 said:
blinder21, it was done with the PSP and PS3, but no games came out for it. I think there is still connectivity between the two consoles, AdHoc Party or something. But when the PSV comes out, it could all be done wirelessly. With the PSP, you needed to connect it into the PS3 for it to register. A good idea that springs to mind of what they could have done with this, is with ModNation Racers. Both effectively the same game. Now Sony can do this with the PS3 and PSV.