Noel Gallagher has said "brutal TV and brutal video games" were a contributing factor to the recent UK riots.
"The people are immune to violence, they are used to it," he added. "And if they get caught they aren't punished the right way. The prisons are already full? Then build new ones.
"It's crazy. It's just violence for the sake of violence. The people who are at these riots aren't poor. These are kids with f***ing mobile phones and all sorts of sh**. The police and government have to take drastic measures."
In 2008, Gallagher linked violent games to a rise in knife crime among Britain's youth.
Last week, the Evening Standard newspaper suggested Grand Theft Auto inspired youngsters to join the London riots and looting, before later issuing a reprint binning the game blame reference altogether.
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83 comments so far...
iucidium on 15 Aug '11 said:
I blame Kidulthood and 'ghetto yoof' culture. I also blame the UK not selling Twinkies.
I also blame this huge divide made by the rich 'elite' and the 'me first' culture.
I blame the media and celebrity and the whole 'you must own this to be cool'
I blame the light frome these giant cultural neon lights that generate shadow and fear.
I blame the idiocy of thousands truing to emulate the gang culture seen in America.
I blame the law makers, who have made disciplining a child almost impossible.
I blame the tories who have cut what little creativity they had left.
I blame Noel's eyebrows - they're evil.
Drusus on 15 Aug '11 said:
Sure it wasn't people getting rich copying the Beatles that made them do it?
Destindie on 15 Aug '11 said:
What about Brutal Music, Noel?
dweebosh on 15 Aug '11 said:
Respected social commentator Noel Gallagher claims "The people are immune to violence" as a result of playing 'brutal' games.
Oh no - wait a second. It's just Noel Gallagher. Sounding off like an idiot again.
StonecoldMC on 15 Aug '11 said:
Some Might Say it was down to Cigarettes & Alcohol, others think that the looters were just wannabe Rock 'n' Roll Star's.
Personally, I feel there arent enough people Married With Children Round Are Way and this was a big factor in the Riots.
It also shows The Importance Of Being Idle. Which in turn created a Full On Gas Panic, D'You Know What I Mean?
Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Ill get me coat and my hat
Grapple on 15 Aug '11 said:
"you wanna f*ckin destroy us? . You wanna break our walls down? You go to HELL!!!"
sjholland87 on 15 Aug '11 said:
I think you're thinking of his brother. Noel's the sensible, educated and talented one...
dweebosh on 15 Aug '11 said:
Oasis puns? This early in the week?! Where on earth do we go from here? (down PC world with a scarf around my face)
dweebosh on 15 Aug '11 said:
No no, the other one's MUCH worse.
rivariad on 15 Aug '11 said:
he's f.ckin right about immunity and whoever says the opposite is a narrow minded teenager who comments somethin just for the sake of lookin witty.
sjholland87 on 15 Aug '11 said:
Liam's a t**t. Stole all Noel's credit.
I'll probably get some phone call now from him telling me that he'll knock my head off like he threatened to Absolute Radio because he was drunk...
filth87 on 15 Aug '11 said:
I agree, if the goverment had banned these horrible games sooner there would have be no world war 1, world war 2, vietnam war, faulklands, afghanistan, iraq, IRA, KGB, fuking nazis, anything.
Wonder what they blamed before we had computers? Obviously something people enjoy because fun is evil.
El Mag on 15 Aug '11 said:
I agree with everything said above, especially the eyebrows.
I'd also like to add....
I blame every shop for not selling Scampi & Lemon Nik Naks anymore. We were a better place with them.
KesMonkey on 15 Aug '11 said:
Noel is speaking crap. Correlation does not equal causation. There are people who, through their upbringing, have a proclivity towards violence. These people also happen to enjoy playing violent games.
I've been playing violent games (and watching violent movies) since childhood, and if what he said was true, I'd probably be in prison now. Experiencing violence through the medium of video games and movies has actually turned me into a bit of a pacifist (perhaps even a pussy), and I abhor violence. Don't get me wrong, there have been times where I've had to kick the s**t out of someone to defend myself or one of my mates, but it's something that I'll always try to avoid.
I would go as far as to say that a few games of Battlefield after a tough day is a massive stress reliever. i.e. playing violent video games is an outlet, and makes one less likely to be violent in reality.
Noel, I love your music, but you're talking utter b*****ks.
KesMonkey on 15 Aug '11 said:
This is perhaps the greatest comment I've read at CVG!
Dentrassi on 15 Aug '11 said:
The last time I listened to Noel Gallagher was when Oasis released their second album. Zing.
zombiesinmyhead on 15 Aug '11 said:
He really is just a massive arse in the shape of a man. Thats why everything he says stinks like farts. Prick.
MPH on 15 Aug '11 said:
"We live in this age of violence - and I don't care what other people say: Brutal TV and brutal video games are a reason for this pointless violence as well."
I'm pretty sure the Medieval times were a time of violence too Noel. As a matter of fact, every era has been a time of violence. With the increase in population, I'm surprised there isn't even more of it. So shut yo trap Noelly chops.
BenThomasFoster on 15 Aug '11 said:
So it's not yourfault for being a good rolemodel?
Because parents in this country are tarrible and the main cause of all these problems kid's look up to diferent people and all they see it gangsta rappers and noel gallager...
WHERESMYMONKEY on 15 Aug '11 said:
You know what i'm going to go out on a limb herer and say It was Oasis's fault, listening to the s**t they call music being sung by buskers has often almost led me to violent acts. I think this was just one 'wonderwall' to many.
vladimirimp on 15 Aug '11 said:
Despite my own interest in violent games, I've tended to have a similar opinion - that society accepting and playing these games must be affected by them. But then I realise that I'm crediting myself with more self-control and intelligence than everyone else; I can play them and remain a calm, peaceful person, but others lack the restraint and must therefore be damaged by them. Putting it like that makes me realise that some part of my thinking is flawed.
But there's no question that general tolerance of violence in the media has increased massively and I remember the parental furore around Spiderman's certification, that their darling 6 year olds were not permitted access to the violence deemed unsuitable for under 12s. The authorities buckled under the pressure and now our kiddies can watch the likes of The Dark Knight with the moral approval of society.
But I'm still not saying that this is the cause. This may just as likely be an effect in the same way as the riots. Perhaps there's another cause somewhere (change in the constitution of the atmosphere, increasing fuel prices, the obliteration of independent music stores...) which has caused both a greater tolerance and thirst for violent media and the riots in England last week.
MJ-Thriller94 on 15 Aug '11 said:
A complete tosspot, who is the brother of another complete tosspot, commenting on something a tosspot like him would know nothing about. Noel, shut up and stick to making crap music
(no offense intended to any Oasis fans, i just think the gallagher's are crap 'musicians' (term used loosely) and they both sicken me)
Carpet on 15 Aug '11 said:
Just Roll with it
photoboy on 15 Aug '11 said:
This article needs to be part of CVG's WRONG campaign.
Moribundman on 15 Aug '11 said:
When working class lads have role models like his brother and Wayne Rooney to look to, you hardly need to stretch to computer games (or movies, or rap, or - gasp - rock n roll) to find a suitable scapegoat to legitamise acting like a f**king dickhead...
markyR on 15 Aug '11 said:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Noel Gallagher, the new definition of 'stupid' and 'hypocrite' for today....
I state as a FACT that I am immune to war because of the wonderful 24/7 coverage on the news channels watching people being shot, blown up, dead body's in wonderful digitally enhanced HD..
Oh and another vote for this story for the WRONG label.
gearyboy on 15 Aug '11 said:
Well thank you Mr Gallagher for sorting that out for us. That's saved a heck of a lot of police time and effort, let's just hand our consoles and PCs in now and let World Peace commence.
Now if you wouldn't mind telling us how to end famine, corrupt governments and climate change we can finish early and have the rest of the week off.
God bless you Sir...(tear in eye)
Beebop10 on 15 Aug '11 said:
I blame music, it all started with Elvis, quote:
"Presley generated an "anti-parent outlook" and was the "personification of evil." To many adults, the singer was "the first rock symbol of teenage rebellion. ... they did not like him, and condemned him as depraved.
In August, 1956 in Jacksonville, Florida a local Juvenile Court judge called Presley a "savage" and threatened to arrest him if he shook his body while performing at Jacksonville's Florida Theatre, justifying the restrictions by saying his music was undermining the youth of America "
Of course nobody accepts this today , if you said it today you'd be quite rightly lol'ed . But it just goes to show scapegoating goes back way before video games existed, fact is, the finger gets pointed at whatever happens to be popular at the time.
wrightandrewjame on 15 Aug '11 said:
It's all part of The Masterplan. All Around The World if we Let There Be Love and Don't Look Back In Anger, Little By Little it'll all get Better Man.
laslowoodbine on 15 Aug '11 said:
I'm sorry Noel but I blame Oasis splitting up as the reason, no proof need just like your statement!
See I can be a twonk too.
TheCrimsonFenix on 15 Aug '11 said:
Violence like that he mentioned has been happening a lot longer than when games were even invented. No doubt about it is there Noel? Bull. There is no doubt about it that you are a tit.
Don't give this moron the satisfaction of being quoted, or anyone else with some pathetic view of videogames violent or otherwise.
raredevice on 15 Aug '11 said:
Rock and Roll, ironically.
Mastermue on 15 Aug '11 said:
Noel...you're a t.w.a.t!
StonecoldMC on 15 Aug '11 said:
Nice
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Ali_ on 15 Aug '11 said:
Personally, I blame Noel Gallagher for 20 years of s**t music. People decided they'd had enough of him trying to be Manchester's answer to the Beatles and demonstrated by stealing TVs and selling them on eBay.
ladycroft142 on 15 Aug '11 said:
What a stupid observation, those riots would have happenened regardless of whether those people had ever even seen a violent video game in their lives. Stop blaming entertainment and just accept the fact that some people are just d***s.
potnoodle1 on 15 Aug '11 said:
Unfortunately violence has been around since the dawn of mankind and people have always been looking for reasons to explain how people can be so cruel to each other. Before games, before TV, hell before there was even a spoken language, there was violence. So it would appear to be nothing more than human nature. It's no worse now than it was two thousand years ago. The only difference is that there's more of us around now.
mogel94 on 15 Aug '11 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots
Thats a whole list of riots throughout the ages, and I certaintly don't think video games and television were the cause of all of them
gmcb007 on 15 Aug '11 said:
p**s off you wannabe Beatle junkie! Shouldn't you be off telling on your brother for pulling your hair? Seriously, didn't he say this before for some other unrelated event?
SoupDetective on 15 Aug '11 said:
You'd better shut your lazy assertions hole right now Gallagher, or I swear I will come over there right now and smash up your small businesses and steal your shoes!
AlienClown on 15 Aug '11 said:
A video game cannot desensitize people to violence. People are not inherently good. They need guidance in order to become good people. Bad parents don't provide that guidance and their kids grow up to be stupid and violent as a result.
Perhaps Labour and their policy of encouraging people to be single parent layabouts who mooch off tax payers is ultimately the cause. It won them plenty of votes for years but now we are seeing the damage. We now have a country filled with wasters who cannot comprehend why people such as myself would go to a soul destroying job day in day out for a meagre wage. I do it because that is the way of the world. Staying at home and living off government hand-outs is abnormal and unacceptable.
I'm Scottish and these events have strengthened my belief that we would be better off independent from the UK. Honestly I'm ashamed of being British. Innocent people being mowed down in the street, people's cars, homes and businesses getting burned down. Why would they do that? It's disgusting.
/rant
beemoh on 15 Aug '11 said:
I don't care what other people say, Noel Gallagher is the sole cause of every riot, ever.
widgy82 on 15 Aug '11 said:
awesome!
well done sir
corkscru74 on 15 Aug '11 said:
OhReally on 15 Aug '11 said:
I don't mean to antagonise you, but last time I drove through Scotland, I stopped to pop into a pub. I decided to go use the toilet before ordering a drink. On the urinal walls the words 'Death to the english' were scrawled. I didn't stay...
Despite that fact I hear the Scots are warm welcoming people so I'll withhold judgement. Maybe you should try extending your neighbours the same courtesy.
Also, if an article I read a couple of years ago was accurate, 40% of all income tax within Britain is generated in Southeast England. Yet the Scots get more government spending, per head, than anyone else. Scotland enjoys many benefits that the rest of Britain is lacking. But please, feel free to leave, I'm sure it would be really constructive.
OhReally on 15 Aug '11 said:
Ooops, I forgot to actually post about the topic in question.
Is it just me or did Oasis just have an attitude that exuded a kind of 'We're hard as nails we are, look at us wrong and we'll do you in'?
Liam alone must have been responsible for an extra few percentage points of violent crime. Almost everytime I've seen a picture of him he's swearing at someone or sticking his fingers up. Didn't he attack a group of Mafioso once and get his teeth knocked out? They seem a bit chavvy and therefore a bit hypocritical imho. Or maybe it's just Liam.
MD1500 on 15 Aug '11 said:
Why isn't this part of W.R.O.N.G.?
STE MO on 15 Aug '11 said:
Listen to old Mary Whitehouse over there. He's had more fights with his brother then there are inchs in the daily mail. Go back to what your good at Noel and vanish.
cjw101 on 15 Aug '11 said:
All I ever want to hear out of either of the Gallaghers is an explanation as to what exactly a Wonderwall is. After that, they can bugger off.
Windowlicker79 on 15 Aug '11 said:
I couldn't be bothered to see if anyone already asked this...
Who the f**k cares what Noel Gallagher says?
budge on 15 Aug '11 said:
And salt and vinegar Fish 'n' Chips crisps, they were scrumptious.
sonic_uk on 15 Aug '11 said:
"Incompetent government, a criminal "justice" system that panders to the needs of criminals rather than dealing out punishment, inadequate policing, pathetic laws, "human rights", useless parenting, a complete lack of discipline and a social security system that makes it more profitable to be a lazy layabout who expects everything to be given to them for free than a decent hard working citizen 'is a reason' for UK riots"
- fixed.
In other words this has absolutely diddly squat to do with videogames. If it were indeed the case that games are responsible or a "contributing factor" as it was put then I wonder why I didn't go out and feel the need to smash up my own town, steal stuff and then boast about it? I have been playing games of all kinds since the early eighties and my favourite genre is fps. I was raised on a diet of Arnie, Rambo, Jeanne Cluade Van Damme and WW2 films which me and my Dad used to watch together and I have studied various Martial Arts from a young age. Does that make me a scumbag too? No. Because I was brought up to respect people and property and knew if I did something wrong I'd be punished.
Seriously, when will people realize that instead of blaming the usual suspects namely gaming, they should actually go out and do something about it. Changing the laughable sentencing and punishment laws in this country and scrapping criminal, sorry I mean "human rights" seems like a good place to start.
Reality Check on 15 Aug '11 said:
LOL Him & his sad brother are the biggest SCUM-BAGS in the music world. They should clean up their act before slagging other people off + Just shoot dead the rioters & looters next time(it will save time & money)
Rise_ofthe_Mike on 15 Aug '11 said:
This is idiotic...no amount of violent games and movies, tv and music, or books for that matter..can create a violent person unless that person is mentally unstable to begin with. Killing someone in a game is a whole lot different than killing someone in real life. Watching someone riot in a movie or game is different from actually being there. Besides, weren't they rioting because of the social and economic unrest? That sounds a lot like people that have an issue with their government, not people lashing out because of a random video game or movie. Think of it this way: This is a massive civilian riot...meaning that not everyone there are criminals...they're all different, made up of different ethnic backgrounds, different beliefs, different sub-cultures, all united in the uncalled for riots in Britain. My point, with so many people out there rioting...there's probably thousands that don't even play video games.
I don't agree with the rioting...but from what I gather, their reasons are sound enough. Trying to discredit their rage is only going to make things worse...blame it on whatever you want, if you don't address the real reasons behind it and use subterfuge like "video games/movies/tv/music/books" are the root cause...then i'm sure you'll be seeing a lot more riots in the future.
liquidphantom on 15 Aug '11 said:
I blame crack head, drunk musicians that become role models and demonstrate a disregard for authority leading the youth to follow suit because they think it acceptable to emulate what the stars do.
mental_mick on 15 Aug '11 said:
The best crisps ever conceived by man are in fact scampi fries...think they still do them in some pubs. They were ruddy delicious!
http://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/product.asp?id=3098
verynaughtyboy on 15 Aug '11 said:
Throughout my teens and up until now I have always been a fan of Oasis and Noel Gallagher's not inconsiderable talent. I don't often agree with his social and political opinions however.
What is funny is that during the time that Oasis were THE band, people like my parents blamed them for the lack of respect and belligerence of young people. My point is... he shouldn't go playing the blame game. I think that violent people are drawn to violent games but not that violent games make people violent. After all my years of listening to Oasis I've never smoked, I barely drink and I don't swear. See, your choice of entertainment doesn't necessarily affect you!
AlienClown on 15 Aug '11 said:
I have nothing against the English and my post contains nothing to suggest that I do. I'm angry that you would accuse me of that. All I want is for Scotland to be a better country and I believe that independence gives us the best chance of achieving that. Britain is a joke. Why would anybody want to be a part of it?
hi0marc on 15 Aug '11 said:
I'm not violent. If he thinks i am i'll smash his manc face into a wonderwall.
Then he wont live forever.
OhReally on 15 Aug '11 said:
I'm sorry you felt I was implying that you hate the English. That wasn't my intent and I apologise for the misunderstanding. I was simply trying to say that all the countries that make up Britain/the UK have their faults, their societal problems and, frankly, their thugs.
They've been around a while now and I can't see them going anytime soon. We had severe youth unemployment and riots under the Conservatives too remember. Like some other European countries I'm sure. My point is that these ills are not exclusive to Britain and can be found in many major cities.
Oh, and I blame the bankers anyway
ianson on 15 Aug '11 said:
"Today is gonna be the day
That they're gonna throw it back to you
By now you should've somehow
Realized what you gotta do
I don't believe that anybody
Feels the way I do about you now "
Were you expecting sense? Really?
It's a miracle that he can string together a coherent idea. we should at least applaud him for putting across his opinion in a way that is intelligible. He could have written a song about it and we would never have had a clue that we should be annoyed with him...
"Maybe baby, cry less with the sound down low.
On the streets being backward hoping that something will grow (out of this)
I heard them say you played an hour or two a day,
such a shame they didn't take your handler away-ay-ay
You are what you see, and I see evil in the trials that steal
your hours and minutes filled with grimaces.
I don't care what they say, don't care for the clues,
the truth ain't evident in evidence I see the root,
of all evil in the steering wheel that steers our fate,
with the exception of kinect I guess"
Imaduck on 15 Aug '11 said:
Bah, Noel's a total c**t who seems to blow any way the wind does frankly. One minute he's being a total knob himself, the next he's telling people why the world is so broken...... Plonker
It's like Pete Doherty telling somebody not to do drugs
STE MO on 15 Aug '11 said:
Guys lets not forget in the immortal words of one Noel Gallagher "All you dreams are made when your chained to a mirror and a razor blade". Drug taking is fine but playing games. Meh
snowdog on 16 Aug '11 said:
This man is a Bitter Blue...why on earth should ANYONE take any notice of ANYTHING that this man says lol
AegisK on 16 Aug '11 said:
I'm pretty sure Noel lost his right to having an opinion years ago.
Domin666 on 16 Aug '11 said:
I belive the reason you have not been jaun claude van damaged by all this violence is the Martial arts.
I used to be a complete tosspot nutter who would do this stupid kind of stuff,but martial arts calmed me down and showed me the way.
These out of controle spongers of the tax system need a dam good seeing to,let the police and public mirror these thugs.
If they throw bricks and petrol bombs at the police I say let the police throw bricks and petrol bombs back and see how they like it.Violence is a needed thing to create peace if we had not fought back like the french in WW2 then everyone would now speak german.
Viva la resistance..we shall fight on the beachs ,we shall fight them in the streets.
One thing though we shall never surrender to these criminals EVER.
TOKEN on 16 Aug '11 said:
A solution for world problems:no more class,no more dictacting goverments,no more money(just land to farm and sow,a proper hard days work and a responsabilaty treat the world as your garden that needs caring for),no more wars,love one another,help others before helping yourself and others will help you,religion that has no real meaning throw to the fire,no more mental barriers for the masses,no properganda,no secret sociaties,no more injustices,no more coruption,no more distractions:exaple,drugs,propaganda,self obbessional hobbies.
Another problem today is thatr people have to much time with no meaning fulness in their life,there will always be fundraisers,riots,war because of greed so so forth if thing dont change.
AlienClown on 16 Aug '11 said:
That's cool. The problem is that politicians too often have their own agenda. They are too afraid of making unpopular decisions. For instance if the torries said that from now on everybody on benefits would have to do community service to earn their money, there would be outrage and they'd lose lots of votes. It would surely be a good and fair policy but people are too lazy for it so such tactics are avoided. This kind of gutless leadership is responsible for the thugs we saw doing all the rioting.
AlienClown on 16 Aug '11 said:
An eye for an eye. It sounds fascist but it's difficult to argue with the logic. I'm not sure it would have the desired effect though.
jobejoe on 16 Aug '11 said:
Well said sir.
KillerKing on 17 Aug '11 said:
he's on the front page of the nme website every friggin day. now he's invading my CVG. god dammit gallagher, leves me alone!
ShadowAviation on 17 Aug '11 said:
*Chokes on cereal* Brutal video games have been around since Nighttrap. Why would they suddenly be responsible for riots? It's really an insult to the video game population that people would be stupid enough to copy what they see on the newest GTA. Video games are a lousy scapegoat.
Augustus_aka_AG on 17 Aug '11 said:
He's right. Ever since playing 'SW9 Urban Knife Attacker 6' I have been unable to control my bloodlust.
sonic_uk on 17 Aug '11 said:
I agree. Unfortunately violence is the only thing these pathetic excuses for human beings seem to understand and is the one thing the government/police have failed to enforce which is why this s***hole of a country is in the state it is today, with too many do-gooders getting their way. There is no fear of repercussion, so the thugs simply do what they want and have no respect for anything or anyone. If they knew they would get beaten or worse if caught acting up most of them simply wouldn't.
I also didn't find Martial Arts gave me respect - I already had that due to the way I was brought up. I got into it as a way of defending my family/friends/myself and property from scum. I did find that it can be very relaxing mentally as well when performing Kata slowly and helps to discipline the mind.
Ali_ on 18 Aug '11 said:
Given that over 40% of the UK population lives in the South East, I don't find that hard to believe. As for the per capita spending, this is an old argument, and wrong. England does receive the least, but Wales and Scotland are about equal and Northern Ireland is way ahead, with nearly £1000 more, per head, than either of those two. And let's not forget whose territorial waters all that North Sea oil has been extracted from... Had Scotland been independent in the '70s, it would be in as strong an economic position now as Norway and Sweden. Using the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea recommendations, it's been calculated that Scotland would have had 98% of North Sea oil revenue in the past 40 years. This was such a serious threat to the UK (ie "non-Scottish") economy in the 70s that the true worth was suppressed after the McCrone report in 1974, when nationalism was at an all new height:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 18697.html
So, when your bandying about random stereotypes like the "Scotland gets all our tax" claims, just remember that your economy would currently be lower than Greece's had we been allowed to become independent when we wanted to. Now? It would be impossible. The money has all been spent and the oil is running out. But I think you'll find that England owes Scotland for a very great perecentage of it's economic strength over the past 40 years.
FatChickThriller on 18 Aug '11 said:
If CVG continues to print every attack on our favourite pass time are they not (CVG) part of the problem themselves. This ISN'T gaming or computing news it just another misguided and biased opinion from from someone who isn't related to the gaming industry what so ever. CVG please stop printing rubbish like this to pad out the website.
Sammy_bham on 20 Aug '11 said:
i wonder if he blames cigaretts, alchohol, and weed for his sluured speach, s**t music and terrible dress sense?
hmmmm
cause n effect
rbt2 on 20 Aug '11 said:
Who cares what some John Lennon wannabee says?
Let's hope his last hit is as big as Lennon's...his head smacking against a New York sidewalk.
snacktusjack on 20 Aug '11 said:
Mr oasis tit-head talks utter nuts. Surely he can realise that people have been rioting for centuries before television and video games were even invented. It's down to the fact that as long as so many billions of people inhabit the earth, you are going to get some dickheads who lack education and self awareness. But let us keep things in perspective, this is also a man who said that his own album was "utterly brilliant" which upon listening to it was a blatantly false statement. He should just enjoy a long overdue retirement and spend his days spitting lighter fluid into a frying pan to make himself feel at home with the other flash in the pans. Now then, who's for a game of Grand Theft Auto ?
Grapple on 21 Aug '11 said:
I personally dont equate these recent riots to the riots in the eighties and seventies. I would like to point anyone whose interested to the Police tactics used in the miners strike in the early 80's . mmmmmm .
Small time looters and opportunists who saw on TV that they could get away with it. And the Police were weak. Too scared of what would happen if they went in hard.
They certanlly went in hard on the miners in the 80'ties . It was like an army ffs, but now we weep for the small time crooks
Booo.f*kin. hoooo
kenneth50 on 21 Aug '11 said:
Personally, listening to Wonderwall makes me want to smash a few windows...
How I would love to feed Noel his teeth with my right fist.
Malmo on 21 Aug '11 said:
Because before video games, no one was ever violent, riots and protests never occured, and the whole world got along nicely
Whilst i don't agree with it, we have a few days of chavs rebelling and all of a sudden videogames are evil. There's constant violence and killings in other countries where videogames barely so much as exist, explain that one Mr. Noel
Funkymonk on 21 Aug '11 said:
Computer games always get the blame in the media and it's always said by someone who has never played a game in their lives. It's just a cop out, utterly ignorant and trite.