GC 2011: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection screens arrive

sened9 on 17 Aug '11 said:

Trophy on pic 14. Can't wait for this to come out, this is gonna be my main buy of the year!

TheBusterMan on 17 Aug '11 said:

Oh what a surprise,November......

lmimmfn on 17 Aug '11 said:

pic 12 - "Transfarring" ?

Channel4 on 17 Aug '11 said:

Disappointed that they've decided to release MGS2 without the extra content of Substance. Even more annoying since they say that the new version is based on the Substance version of the main game. So it sounds as if they've gone out of their way to remove all of the extra content even though it was on the same disc to begin with. Plus it was on PC anyway, so they probably coud've ported it in a few days. Oh well. At least I now have an excuse to buy Subsistence and enjoy MGS3 properly.

CRA2Y GILLY on 17 Aug '11 said:

Transfarring - "Conceptualized by Hideo Kojima, Transfarring refers to allowing saves to be transferred and played from a home console to a portable package and vice-versa at any time. This system currently runs on Sony video game platforms."

F_Underbird69 on 17 Aug '11 said:

if they get Peace Walker right, this will be VERY interesting. MGS 3 is already awesome ...... Sheer quality and amount of game releases in the next few months is staggering, my wallet is starting to get worried ....

gmcb007 on 17 Aug '11 said:

Disappointed that they've decided to release MGS2 without the extra content of Substance. Even more annoying since they say that the new version is based on the Substance version of the main game. So it sounds as if they've gone out of their way to remove all of the extra content even though it was on the same disc to begin with. Plus it was on PC anyway, so they probably coud've ported it in a few days. Oh well. At least I now have an excuse to buy Subsistence and enjoy MGS3 properly.

I'm with you there. I was looking forward to playing the 2 original MGSs again.

humanhand on 17 Aug '11 said:

I hope I'm not mistaken, but I remember reading that you can import your save files from the PSP version of Peace Walker? I really hope so.

gmcb007 on 17 Aug '11 said:

I hope I'm not mistaken, but I remember reading that you can import your save files from the PSP version of Peace Walker? I really hope so.

Yeah you can, I think it was mentioned in a recent article.

eddiehitler on 18 Aug '11 said:

The zavvi ultimate collections sold out already!

jim2wheels on 18 Aug '11 said:

The zavvi ultimate collections sold out already!

Snooze and you lose buddy!

metallicorphan on 18 Aug '11 said:

Disappointed that they've decided to release MGS2 without the extra content of Substance. Even more annoying since they say that the new version is based on the Substance version of the main game. So it sounds as if they've gone out of their way to remove all of the extra content even though it was on the same disc to begin with. Plus it was on PC anyway, so they probably coud've ported it in a few days. Oh well. At least I now have an excuse to buy Subsistence and enjoy MGS3 properly.

I have heard the VR missions are included

and MGS3 is the subsistence version and comes with Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2,which were actually on another disc in the subsistence PS2 version

slick loose on 18 Aug '11 said:

Well on the official Metal Gear Solid Facebook they have posted 7 screen shots of MGS2 HD. One of them was this...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =1&theater

Now if I remember rightly, MGS2 didn't have VR Missions...but Substance did!? So CVG, could you confirm this?

metallicorphan on 18 Aug '11 said:

Well on the official Metal Gear Solid Facebook they have posted 7 screen shots of MGS2 HD. One of them was this...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =1&theater

Now if I remember rightly, MGS2 didn't have VR Missions...but Substance did!? So CVG, could you confirm this?

yeah that's the picture i saw,thanks for putting it up

this is from the MGS2 wiki page

The main addition of Substance is the inclusion of an extra missions mode with 300 virtual reality training missions set in a computer-constructed environment and 200 "Alternative Missions" set in areas taken from the main game. The player can choose to play these missions as Solid Snake or Raiden, with alternate outfits for both characters becoming available as the player progresses.

this collection is going to be great

eddiehitler on 18 Aug '11 said:

The zavvi ultimate collections sold out already!

Snooze and you lose buddy!

Didn't lose preordered first thing

jim2wheels on 18 Aug '11 said:

@Eddie

Cut and paste to any sucker that didn't.

sonic_uk on 18 Aug '11 said:

Predictably the "HD" collection is just the exact original games, same textures, same models etc. All they've done is change one line of code so that it now runs at 720p native. Like Splinter Cell, God Of War and countless others this looks no different than the original Ps2 versions running upscaled on the Ps3 and is just about the laziest example of programming there is. Yeah I'm angry. I wish for once when they promise a "HD remake" they could actually be friggin bothered to up the texture quality or improve the lighting or models a bit. The only Hd remake I'm aware of that looked substantially better than the original last gen offering is Ninja Gaiden Sigma, which looked lovely.

jim2wheels on 19 Aug '11 said:

Predictably the "HD" collection is just the exact original games, same textures, same models etc. All they've done is change one line of code so that it now runs at 720p native. Like Splinter Cell, God Of War and countless others this looks no different than the original Ps2 versions running upscaled on the Ps3 and is just about the laziest example of programming there is. Yeah I'm angry. I wish for once when they promise a "HD remake" they could actually be friggin bothered to up the texture quality or improve the lighting or models a bit. The only Hd remake I'm aware of that looked substantially better than the original last gen offering is Ninja Gaiden Sigma, which looked lovely.

Isn't this going to be running at 1080p and 60fps? Or am I confusing that with the Ico collection?

slick loose on 19 Aug '11 said:

I'm pretty sure it's more than one line of code. Plus one of the games used to be on the PSP and it looks substantially better on the HD collection. Although I agree, I would much prefer a game being remastered then just HD'd up. A good example was Twin Snakes on the Game Cube, or even OoT on the 3DS. Although both those games were sold at full price...so it's quite the pickle, either sell all the games in one collection and just HD them up. Or remaster each one individually and sell them as such.

I honestly don't know which I would prefer, especially with MGS2 & 3 as they still look decent.

sonic_uk on 19 Aug '11 said:

Maybe I exaggerated a bit but I think you guys get my point. Its just lazy programming and I wish for once when we hear the promise of an "Hd Remake" the game is more than just outputting at a higher resolution with the same old textures and lighting as before. I seriosuly doubt they are running native 1080p - I think it will be more like 720p upscaled to 1080p. Don't know and don't really care about the fps, 60 or 30 is fine by me, I'm not fussy about that as long as the frame rate is stable. Anything under 15fps is choppy and anything under 10fps is unplayable in my book but I'm sure the game will run just fine. I am predictably disappointed about the lazy port although I'll still buy it, even though I have Mgs 1, 2, 3 (Subsistence) and 4, I am a fan of the series and would simply like it in my collection.