Battlefield 3: 'Hundreds' banned as cheating erupts

sepewrath on 13 Nov '11 said:

Never saw the appeal in cheating, playing online where people cant properly compete, defeats the purpose of playing. Now they got banned for their trouble, so now they cant have any fun.

jm3811 on 13 Nov '11 said:

Nothing more legit than making use of a glitch. If it wasn't meant to be in the game then they should fix it, that's ridiculous. GTA 4 was full of glitches and I saw quite a few players exploiting them, either to beat the coop missions best times (not really my thing though) or wander underneath the city, etc...

Using Twitter and soliciting denunciation... I could tweet each time I find a bug or a glitch in a Dice game or each time I get kicked by the severs. TBH I have better things to do.

mennwhite on 13 Nov '11 said:

They should definitely check out this guy

FireRapid0

736,656,000 score per minute. He's still in the leaderboard, will the leaderboard be purged?

Domin666 on 13 Nov '11 said:

Why play if you cheat it's a hollow victory and saying to your mates i got this score ect just makes you look like a tool,dont ban them just wipe all there points off and make there player look like a clown in game for a week or so that should work,like this guy got caught for cheating in a game and was cruicified in game for like a week for everyone to see and laugh at.public display of shame for cheaters will stop them or just make others avoid them so works out all round.

KesMonkey on 13 Nov '11 said:

Nothing more legit than making use of a glitch. If it wasn't meant to be in the game then they should fix it, that's ridiculous. GTA 4 was full of glitches and I saw quite a few players exploiting them, either to beat the coop missions best times (not really my thing though) or wander underneath the city, etc...

Using Twitter and soliciting denunciation... I could tweet each time I find a bug or a glitch in a Dice game or each time I get kicked by the severs. TBH I have better things to do.

Yeah, and if my neighbour didn't want me to steal his TV he shouldn't have left his back door open.
Glitches occassionally slip through the cracks (and this particular one will be fixed in the upcoming patch). This does not excuse people exploiting them, which is against the terms of service of XBLA (not sure about PSN or Origin) and is very definitely cheating.
I am delighted that these boosters spent all that time exploiting a glitch...for nothing. What a total waste of their time. Maybe they'll learn a lesson.
I urge anyone who ever encounters cheaters online to report them.

CraigoCorleone on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

slick loose on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

Although not technically cheating, where is the fun in just watching others play? Why bother going online at all if all you are going to do is watch from a distance and gather points. In fact I do actually consider it cheating as you are earning a lot of points for doing absolutely nothing and I think you SHOULD be reported.

As it happens, I don't play online but it's people like you that make me glad I don't.

MANYOO4EVA on 13 Nov '11 said:

Well shocker there.

Not dissing Battlefield in anyway, it's just that I find it pointless in playing MP anymore as cheaters ruin it. Even on day 2 of MW3 being released there was cheaters on there with sniper rifles with aimbots on, getting instant aim and headshots, and using them like assault rifles.

Competitive MP these days is a joke as no one plays honestly, it as all about ppl winning and protecting their kill-death ratio. I prefer co-op like Horde mode on Gears of War 3 where you are a team playing against computer AI.

Waaaaayyyy more fun.

jm3811 on 13 Nov '11 said:

Nothing more legit than making use of a glitch. If it wasn't meant to be in the game then they should fix it, that's ridiculous. GTA 4 was full of glitches and I saw quite a few players exploiting them, either to beat the coop missions best times (not really my thing though) or wander underneath the city, etc...

Using Twitter and soliciting denunciation... I could tweet each time I find a bug or a glitch in a Dice game or each time I get kicked by the severs. TBH I have better things to do.

Yeah, and if my neighbour didn't want me to steal his TV he shouldn't have left his back door open.
Glitches occassionally slip through the cracks (and this particular one will be fixed in the upcoming patch). This does not excuse people exploiting them, which is against the terms of service of XBLA (not sure about PSN or Origin) and is very definitely cheating.
I am delighted that these boosters spent all that time exploiting a glitch...for nothing. What a total waste of their time. Maybe they'll learn a lesson.
I urge anyone who ever encounters cheaters online to report them.

You know there are two ways to state an opinion on the web: one is Youtube where pretty much everything is allowed, and the other one is, i.e, Yahoo Questions where you can lose your email account if what you say does not abide by the Mormon rules of the Internet Corp.

I get what you say, however it should be easy to patch the game and reset the scores to zero. There is no need to make a drama about "how people behave in games".

Warrior24_7 on 13 Nov '11 said:

It didn't take long! Once a game get infiltrated by cheaters and people exploiting glitches and using other methods, like the one just mentioned (basically not even playing and leveling up) just ruins the game for legitimate players and makes the supposedly stongest part of the game worthless. Unless DICE stays vigilant and continues to ban these people, they will overrun the game and ruin it!

Padua on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

Although not technically cheating, where is the fun in just watching others play? Why bother going online at all if all you are going to do is watch from a distance and gather points. In fact I do actually consider it cheating as you are earning a lot of points for doing absolutely nothing and I think you SHOULD be reported.

As it happens, I don't play online but it's people like you that make me glad I don't.

I wouldn't call that cheating. Craig was just a playing a specialist role on his team : Surveillance. It would be cheating if only one team could do it or Craig was invincible. Working as a team shouldn't necessarily = same fun for all.

I would describe myself as team FPS player. I prefer to supply ammo and medic packs and lay down suppressive fire to assist team mates so that my team wins rather than do a rambo. I always get more enjoyment from my team winning than being top or getting lots of points.

jm3811 on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

I agree with you.
The main issue with BF (from day one) is that it does not reward the team but only individuals. I spent most of my time playing offensive recon in BFBC2: spotting the enemy and defending the objectives when the "good" players were trolling around like a bunch of psychotic bonobos and killing each other - literally exchanging kills.

As a result I gained an appalling K/D ration but also a satisfying W/L ratio, much in the spirit of what a BF game should be.

I don't understand why spotting is even criticized since it's within the very essence of a war game (at least since after the trenches of WW1). Unless one is a paintball player.

widgy82 on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

what a f**king tool you are! you should be banned you moron
people like you doing lame s**t like that ruins the game, dick

emuholic on 13 Nov '11 said:

How is spotting with the MAV classed as cheating? That is the role of the Recon class - to spot people. When I play with random people I notice people rarely do it. I don't meant camping on top of the crane, not spotting and sniping three enemies during the course of it. Put a radar near to a MCOM or Flag, spot everything you see. Don't ignore enemies because you cant kill them, spot them and someone will likely notice it and get the kill earning you points.

Unfortunately many seem to think it involves camping on the outskirts of a map and getting an occasional kill, it reflects on your score at the bottom of the table A good recon class can easily go without any kills or deaths and still earn a reasonable score if they play properly. While I rarely play as Recon myself, it is a useful class and good usage of it can easily change the game balance. A note to those that think the MAV is bad, use a Stinger, one hit and its gone.

I could go on about team play in Battlefield 3 all day long. My major annoyance are Support classes who are oblivious to a group of soldiers requesting ammo, drop a ammo pack at every opportunity for gods sake!

Laughlyn on 13 Nov '11 said:

I've heard of the technique, or theories of it but i cant see why players who exploit it are being punished for EA/DICE overlooking it? sure its a bit lame for those who feel need to have to go easy way round getting their level up in such a way instea dof actually playing the game andprogressing. my way of doing things to get the M60 was to use the DAO-12 (physical warfare pack) on conquest games with support and just defend flags and buildings for the team while dropping ammo boxes. at 4-7k a game i soon went up enough on support til i got the gun i want. then i go into other games and get kills with the M60 for the attachments i need. some game modes are more suited to certain rewards so u just have to play right mode for what you want.

sammikid on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

what a f**king tool you are! you should be banned you moron
people like you doing lame s**t like that ruins the game, dick

Don't blame the player, blame the game! If DICE hadn't made it such a rewarding thing to do, i'm sure he wouldn't do it. This is more to do with DICE and their shoddy unbalaced game. I loved BF:BC2 and BF3 is also good fun with an appaling single-player, but be sure to place the blame towards the right people.
In all honesty there should be a cap on how many points each tool/gun etc can get per round.

lawless1891 on 13 Nov '11 said:

CraigoCorleon

If thats boosting/cheating then I'm guilty too,sat on vads all game trolling heli pilots.

Keep on keeping on,ain't nowt wrong in spotting like that as long as you're covering them mcoms or holding a flag,I salute you sir.

runadumb on 13 Nov '11 said:

How is spotting with the MAV classed as cheating? That is the role of the Recon class - to spot people. When I play with random people I notice people rarely do it. I don't meant camping on top of the crane, not spotting and sniping three enemies during the course of it. Put a radar near to a MCOM or Flag, spot everything you see. Don't ignore enemies because you cant kill them, spot them and someone will likely notice it and get the kill earning you points.

I could go on about team play in Battlefield 3 all day long. My major annoyance are Support classes who are oblivious to a group of soldiers requesting ammo, drop a ammo pack at every opportunity for gods sake!

Are the people complaining even playing this game? Spotting is a HUGE part of BF and the guy is rewarded for helping his team. That is the point, not ramboing your face off on your own. Some people don't seem to get that at all. He is doing exactly what he should be as recon.

A good team has good support.

Orox on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

what a f**king tool you are! you should be banned you moron
people like you doing lame s**t like that ruins the game, dick

He's a recon. He's doing his job.

Not enough recons do this in BF3 at the moment so I don't get why you're so upset.

Does it hurt your ego to know that even without killing someone you can still be at the top of the leaderboard while you run around getting an even k/d ratio due to running around like a headless chicken?

AegisK on 13 Nov '11 said:

Looks like hundreds of IGN users fell for the bait. Trust CoD haters to post boosting video's using the IGN brand to get people banned. :/

trooper81 on 13 Nov '11 said:

I run around station to station i dont get alot of kill every round but i wish there were more players like you who spot people i somtimes feel its only me doing it keep it up. The one time i came third over all i had two kills and three deaths the rest was spotting, supresson and assists its how the games played

CraigoCorleone on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

what a f**king tool you are! you should be banned you moron
people like you doing lame s**t like that ruins the game, dick

My team won by about 30 kills, what do you think a Recon class soldier is supposed to do with an MAV? You are all those names you have called me because you clearly are pants at the game. It's not stats padding and it really benefits the team. Are real soldiers cheats because the use pilotless drones to spot enemies in real Battlefields???

Thanks for your feedback though and please take note of the support I have from all the other commenters. Join me on the Battlefield if you want.

TheLastDodo on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

what a f**king tool you are! you should be banned you moron
people like you doing lame s**t like that ruins the game, dick

So you want a guy banned for helping his team out in teamwork orientated FPS?

Should people playing as medics be banned? After all they're only throwing med kits out to heal wounded teammates, that's not helping the team either .

I play BF3 with a friend that has eye problems, he acknowledges he can't truly compete at FPS's because of this disability, he can't make out players in the distance so give him a gun and he's useless however when I join up with him, he plays engineer and I play support and he runs round taking out helicopter's, tanks etc with RPG's. He gets to finally enjoy an FPS because he knows he's actually helping the team out and not hindering them for once.

Should he be banned too? Should my friend that can only play BF3 one way due to an eye disability be banned? Is he allowed to play that way or is that the wrong way to play too princess?

Is it just coincidence that someone acting like a typical internet forum dick calls themselves 'widgy'?

@Craigo:

I wish you were on my team, BF3 needs people that know how to spot, keep doing what you're doing but if you get the chance to kill an enemy then take it.

JBoo on 13 Nov '11 said:

That is why i don't bother with online gaming. Most people are a bunch of idiots online.

CraigoCorleone on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

Although not technically cheating, where is the fun in just watching others play? Why bother going online at all if all you are going to do is watch from a distance and gather points. In fact I do actually consider it cheating as you are earning a lot of points for doing absolutely nothing and I think you SHOULD be reported.

As it happens, I don't play online but it's people like you that make me glad I don't.

You clearly missed everything you just read if you believe I have done nothing! Keep up the good work and thanks for not playing!

CraigoCorleone on 13 Nov '11 said:

He's a recon. He's doing his job.

Not enough recons do this in BF3 at the moment so I don't get why you're so upset.

Does it hurt your ego to know that even without killing someone you can still be at the top of the leaderboard while you run around getting an even k/d ratio due to running around like a headless chicken?

Lol, honestly a little, but no more than training to shoot people for the last 12 years, going to 5 war zones and never actually shooting at anyone!

EvilDog77 on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

Although not technically cheating, where is the fun in just watching others play? Why bother going online at all if all you are going to do is watch from a distance and gather points. In fact I do actually consider it cheating as you are earning a lot of points for doing absolutely nothing and I think you SHOULD be reported.

As it happens, I don't play online but it's people like you that make me glad I don't.

What a stupid person you are. Battlefield aims to represent a realistic military environment and this is how it's done in the real world. It's a refreshing change to have a game where it actually benefits the team to play their respective specialist roles rather than have a bunch of generics running around firing their weapons aimlessly and without coordination. Multiplayer is much better off without the likes of you.

Dane on 13 Nov '11 said:

1.Spend 60 $
2.Install Origin (Spyware)
3.Cheat in game
4.Get banned

TheLastDodo on 13 Nov '11 said:

Although not technically cheating, where is the fun in just watching others play? Why bother going online at all if all you are going to do is watch from a distance and gather points. In fact I do actually consider it cheating as you are earning a lot of points for doing absolutely nothing and I think you SHOULD be reported.

As it happens, I don't play online but it's people like you that make me glad I don't.

Sorry slick but this is one of those times where (and I say this with all due respect) you need to stay out of the discussion because you don't know what you're talking about.

BF isn't just about rewarding players for kills, it rewards you for working as a team and helping each other out, thats what Craigo is doing, Craigo spots a enemy and the enemy is now visible on my radar and the radar of my teammates, giving us an advantage over the opposition, what Craigo is doing is incredibly valuable to the team, he isn't spawn camping, he isn't glitching, hacking, cheating or taking advantage of an exploit.

BF is split into set classes and you are rewarded by utilising the perks of your preferred class as well as by just killing the opponent.

If you're an Engineer then you help out by fixing vehicle's for your team, if you're Support then you help out by throwing ammo out for your team, if you're Assault then you throw out medkits to heal your wounded teammates and if you're recon like Craigo is you keep your distance to provide long range support via spotting and sniping.

If you don't like it then I'd suggest don't play BF3 online but absolutely no-one should even consider reporting Craigo for his play style, his play style is a major asset to his team and I would want him on my team making my BF3 sessions a little bit easier.

The Bossman on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

It's people like YOU that make me want to shoot the whole FPS community in the head. You're just sat there doing f**k all, apart from spotting enemies for other players to kill. You might as well just go on Youtube and watch better players, I'm sure you'll enjoy that even more. But hey, if that's what you enjoy, bully for you. Yes, before you raise the point of him helping the team out, if he's sat there all game doing it, why not just run into battle with a potato peeler? It'll have the same impact as whatever gun you have sat on the floor next to you.

slick loose on 13 Nov '11 said:

Contemplating going on the attack, not sure if I have the energy...someone egg me on

hephaestos on 13 Nov '11 said:

exploit isn't cheating, it's bad programing.

I can understand the stats wipe but the banning?

runadumb on 13 Nov '11 said:

Contemplating going on the attack, not sure if I have the energy...someone egg me on

I started one then sighed and deleted it. Every things been said already, beating a dead horse with that one.

I agree on the exploit banning thing. They should only ban for actual cheaters. Exploiters can be slapped on the wrist or have stats wiped. Wonder if playing on an empty server counts? I was doing that to practice flying but I still got unlocks and points for it...

Dacker on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

Although not technically cheating, where is the fun in just watching others play? Why bother going online at all if all you are going to do is watch from a distance and gather points. In fact I do actually consider it cheating as you are earning a lot of points for doing absolutely nothing and I think you SHOULD be reported.

As it happens, I don't play online but it's people like you that make me glad I don't.

Well that's just ridiculous. Cheating or exploiting is wrong. It is the craft of losers and people of low self esteem. But using a game tool to amass points? What's wrong with that. I'd be happy to have someone willing to spot targets for my squad. I would get bored doing it. If he enjoys it... don't tell someone what they should and shouldn't do in a game they spent $50 to play. I see people getting criticized for sniping, flying or even for defending a flag! Cheating is one thing; it's wrong, and it also draws attention to the fact that the cheater has no real-world friends or relationships. But if the game provides a legit means of gaining points and someone wants to sit on the edge of the map and spot targets for points, only a professional whiner would have a problem with that.

slick loose on 13 Nov '11 said:

Bah, you boring lot. I would've taken you all on

StonecoldMC on 13 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

what a f**king tool you are! you should be banned you moron
people like you doing lame s**t like that ruins the game, dick

First, learn how to play BF3 properly and you will see that what Craigo is doing is not only legit, but also that helps his teammates get an upper hand in the Game.

Second, calm down with the abusive language, anymore of that and you can have a wee holiday from this place.

Thanks

jm3811 on 14 Nov '11 said:

First, learn how to play BF3 properly and you will see that what Craigo is doing is not only legit, but also that helps his teammates get an upper hand in the Game.

Second, calm down with the abusive language, anymore of that and you can have a wee holiday from this place.

Thanks

Nicely put. I was starting to feel guilty for repairing too many tanks, shooting too many rounds or healing too many of my team mates.
The most ironic bit is that most criticism come from players who spend their time shooting around and throwing medipacks, in order to capitalize in the most unrealistic way.

The good thing though is that I will know who I can pick as team mates. Not to mention that being polite is the first act of engagement in gaming.

FIech on 14 Nov '11 said:

Bit like COD's quick scoping except even though its a bug/glitch the developers are actually supporting it.

Dead franchise to me now.

KK-Headcharge78 on 14 Nov '11 said:

Spotting is not cheating, end of. Technically changing the game to your advantage or gratification is cheating.

widgy82 on 14 Nov '11 said:

First, learn how to play BF3 properly and you will see that what Craigo is doing is not only legit, but also that helps his teammates get an upper hand in the Game.

Second, calm down with the abusive language, anymore of that and you can have a wee holiday from this place.

Thanks

well 1st i know how to play bf ive been doing it for years and 2nd if you wana go tell on me and get me banned go ahead you mug, you nowt better to do than monitoring peoples language?! idiot

slick loose on 14 Nov '11 said:

I back your freedom of speech but that guy monitoring peoples language is a mod and he will ban you himself...no matter how right you are

widgy82 on 14 Nov '11 said:

I back your freedom of speech but that guy monitoring peoples language is a mod and he will ban you himself...no matter how right you are

thank god! didnt think there was any sane people left on here and mod or not hes still an idiot, id use stronger language but then then hed like that

GaryStew1980 on 15 Nov '11 said:

For 3 rounds in a row last night I was most valuable player with no kills and no deaths in a team deathmatch game. I got bombarded with about 7 messages about cheating! All I did was sit in the far corner in the map and use an MAV to spot hundreds of players. Spotting a player that gets killed gets you 10 points, boosted if someone kills another you spotted straight away (which happens all the time), after 7 spots you get another 200 points for a surveillance ribbon. In total I was getting about 17/18 ribbons per game. This is a perfectly legitimate way of getting points as that is what the MAV is designed for. I recommend it to people who genuinely want to level up as you get MVP, Best Squad, win ribbons etc, about 10,000 points a game.

what a f**king tool you are! you should be banned you moron
people like you doing lame s**t like that ruins the game, dick

Really? think you may need a few minutes on the naughty step if you are being serious. While I personally can't see any enjoyment in the way this guy plays the game, in fact i find it down right boring, he is clearly providing a service for his team mates and is helping the team. Not really sure why he is getting so much hate to be honest, if he was doing this in TDM and TDM only then yes he is not really providing the best support he can but while playing conquest and Rush in particular i say fair play to him he is actually performing the recon roll correctly, as opposed to hanging back getting 2 or 3 kills a game, spotting no one and not helping what so ever, I actually wish everyone played recon like that. Chances are you are the type that sprints to an objective ignoring ammo and medpacks gets killed, respawns, rince and repeat.

jm3811 on 15 Nov '11 said:

I used the UAV a lot on BFBC2. Did not score much with it but it was at least one thing that I was able to fly.

Quite often I've been wondering how many BF players know how to spot. Even in close combat it's quite useful, especially if you're a lame shooter like me: you spot, you get killed, but your sacrifice gives of your mates the opportunity to finish the job (or to start it on most occasion, should I say).

I am not aware of BF3 being so generous with spotters. All I know is that once I spent my time on a small vehicle going from one base to an other (conquest obviously), and I won the game with zero kills and 3 deaths. That was funny.

Yeah, I know: not funny by everyone's standards...

King Bohan on 16 Nov '11 said:

It didn't take long! Once a game get infiltrated by cheaters and people exploiting glitches and using other methods, like the one just mentioned (basically not even playing and leveling up) just ruins the game for legitimate players and makes the supposedly stongest part of the game worthless. Unless DICE stays vigilant and continues to ban these people, they will overrun the game and ruin it!

I agree! Needs to be stopped before the game turns into a cheatfest of COD proportions...

Imaduck on 19 Nov '11 said:

Glad I havn't bought this yet, seems like they dropped the ball a bit with it at least for the mo. Still got BFBC2 I guess. There are various ways to play all online games, some are f**king cheap (spawn camping), others are just too smart for most people to understand (like actually using cover, hiding in bushes in BFBC2, setting traps, tricking people etc.) and get people raging, and some are just cheating flat out. There are quite a few ways to cheat, using dirty mods is an obvious one, exploiting glitches for your own gain is however definately cheating.

Everyone seems to look for these sort of things in games now, a way to get one up on others that requires no ability other than the ability to use Youtube You can be sure as s**t that when the companies catch on, you'll get the hammer most likely, and deservedly so. If it feels like you're doing something wrong - you probably are. But then, these days so many people can't tell wrong and right apart in the first place I guess. People have no honour, and most of those people seem to play online 24/7

Personally I blame K/D ratios and all that s**t. Instead of just fighting each other, playing for fun etc. people play to gain now, many excessively so, for a f**king empty number by their name at the expense of others. Don't even get me started on MLG .....
Anyways, play nice kids. If you find a glitch - good for you, but don't abuse it, help fix it. How does it feel when other people abuse glitches against you? s**t right? So don't f**king repeat it! The guys who play clean, will always come out on top, any rank, title, position or merit of any sort earned through exploitative play is empty in the first place as it doesn't reflect you at all. So why do it? Have some wit. I pity the people who need glitches to get ahead.

jm3811 on 19 Nov '11 said:

I quite agree with duck apart from the fact that I blame the developers for the glitches.

The K/D ration does not make sense in Battlefield, except in BF3 I suppose. There should be far more emphasis on the team rewards.

But from my own experience (which is 400 hours of BFBC2) the most irritating bit is when I play with morons: those who don't spot when they are recon, those who revive you to put you in hell, those who go assault and don't give away a single amo pack, those who don't protect the objectives (or don't attack them), those who sabotage your vehicle, despite being in your team, simply because they wanted that goddamn tank, those who don't cover you when you were ready to save their asses, those who look the wrong way, those who yell in their Turtlebeach, those who don't reply when you say "thank you, well done", those who never played GTA 4 because they don't know today the amount of patience that it took to put Petrovic safely in a heli and deliver the guy like a pizza when every player was hungry for points.

Imaduck on 20 Nov '11 said:

Thanks man. That last paragraph basically sums up why single player will always be number 1 to me. Very good list, maybe if they had penalties for doing those things or not doing them it'd help?

One of the worst I've found is people who betray teamates in Reach until they get kicked, because they don't want to quit the game. Quitting in Reach is weak because there' no drop in system, so Bungie started warning, banning, resetting the hardcore quitters. So they now betray people when they want to leave. f**king weak.

Frankly, I kind of wish they could just find anyone who behaves like that and shoot the bastards, clean up the gene pool

jm3811 on 20 Nov '11 said:

You're welcome.

Not much to add except that I like multiplayer modes just the way I enjoy the good side of people in and out of the gaming zone. I've never started any mission in any game with the idea to stir the s**t - never ever - and I've been rewarded in meeting very interesting people around the planet.

In ancient times it was quite fun to play games like Zak McKraken and exchanging tips on how to solve puzzles. My favorite modes will always be the likes of Spec Ops or Onslaught. Strange that solidarity between players is at its best when playing against the AI.