It is being widely reported that PS3 Skyrim players are running into severe lag when their game save files exceed 5-6MB on their console's hard-drive.
Players are citing unplayable lag, and not being able to interact with NPCs or complete quests once stored save data surpasses a certain level. Have you had any similar problems?
OPM UK editor Tim Clark said: "I first started encountering serious lag at around the 25-hour mark, and since then it's been the same: I boot up, play for an hour or so, then the framerate gets choppier until I ultimately need to restart the PS3. I'd actually already noticed that the file was creeping up in size every time I saved."
According to Tim, restarting your machine appears to fix the lag (although seemingly only for an hour or so), while turning off the auto save feature also helps. "It's frustrating though," he added, "I'm bonkers for the game and don't want the experience soured by it turning into a flickbook. Bethesda surely have to patch it with a fix."
Bethesda said earlier this week that a patch addressing issues for all versions of the RPG stunner is coming soon. Skyrim guide am go.
Comments
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TheCrimsonFenix on 17 Nov '11 said:
The same thing always happened to me when playing either the 360 or PS3 version of Oblivion. The save file just keeps on getting bigger every time, same thing happens in Far Cry 2 so I wouldn't be surprised if that''s that reason so many save files get corrupted or you get to game breaking crashes. Only thing that sorted it for me was turning off every kind of auto save feature and just stick with manual saves.
slick loose on 17 Nov '11 said:
Isn't this illegal? I mean can't you get you money back for being sold a faulty product?
sammikid on 17 Nov '11 said:
Glad I held off purchasing this until all game breaking elements had been patched. hell ! i'll wait for a price drop. Revelations it is then.
Confused_Dude on 17 Nov '11 said:
I'm about 35 hours in with a save file that's just surpassed 8mb, and although i've noticed slowdown, i'd hardly call it 'crippling' or 'game breaking'.
I would, however, still very much urge Bethesda to release some sort of fix
ricflair on 17 Nov '11 said:
Not sure it's illegal per se, but you would be well within your rights to take it back. These games are supposed to at least work out of the box, even if they are flawed in places. They're not supposed to be seemingly broken.
Games retailers aren't used to this though, so I bet they'll fight tooth and nail to say you can't return it!
rubblemaker on 17 Nov '11 said:
Yes, I have had 'similiar problems' The exact problem in actual fact. And every single PS3 player of Skyrim will have the same problem at some point soon. And every single one of them will not be able to continue playing. And every single one will be looking for ways to return their copy of the game as unless the patch repairs it very soon (and we've heard nothing to suggest the patch will even address this specific problem) there simply is no other option available. Its not just a bug, it is a game crippling, game ending, game destroying disaster for every player on a PS3.
StokedUp on 17 Nov '11 said:
Yeah I've been on forums where PS3 players are saying once your save file hits around 6-8mb the frame rates seem to drop after playing for a bout 2 hours. Yet there's also PS3 players who arnt experiencing it at all.
This supposedly happened on GT5 aswell and that was fixes quickly with a patch.
It seems that yet gain Beshesda have released a seriously bugged game. Im still yet to experience any bugs yet but I've seen so many complaints on various forums now with players on all platforms about bugs. There's seems to be some really bad ones aswell that actually stop you from progressing any further. I've seen two players (both 360) saying how they can't progress in the thieves guild quests because it bugs up in a certain part where you have to meet somebody but that person never turns up, (possibly because you might of killed them earlier in the game while free roaming)
I think beshesda have to seriously fix these bugs quick because it shouldn't happen, it's the reason they test these games before release to iron out these bugs, especially if the actually ruin the experience.
Oh yeah 1000th post on CVG forums
phate666 on 17 Nov '11 said:
It happens with all the games they put out on PS3. Both fallouts, Oblivion and now this. I was really hoping that I wouldn't see my save file size increasing when playing Skyrim but lo and behold...
Is this sort of thing even fixable with a patch? I only ask as they've not done so with any of their other titles.
humanhand on 17 Nov '11 said:
Personally, since Oblivion, I've always tried to delete all of the unnecessary save files after a couple of days. All of the Auto-Save files basically. I only keep them around for a little bit just in case one of the other save files goes buggy. Not only that, but I try to keep it down to two main save files, one main one, and one back up just in case the main one bugs up. Sounds like too much work, but it's what you put up with for such a great game.
Gambini on 17 Nov '11 said:
I just got my copy this morning
here's hoping they patch it before my save file gets to that size.
Pretty stupid firkin bug tho.
ricflair on 17 Nov '11 said:
Check out how bad it can be! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMu4Tzk2bdg
From what I've read it seems to depend on where you are. I'm glad I decided to wait until after I'm done with Zelda!
only_777 on 17 Nov '11 said:
How on earth does this not get picked up in the testing stage?
To be far I'm on lvl 18 and my save is only 4.5mb which I think it has been for a while, and I have not had these problems.
a3HeadedMonkey on 17 Nov '11 said:
lol at gamers that are too stubborn or biased to own an Xbox over a PS3.
trololololol.
rubblemaker on 17 Nov '11 said:
You will. 6mb. Keep watching...
Dred0 on 17 Nov '11 said:
Remember a very similar thing for Oblivion on 360. Had to clear the cache about every 4 hours.
Ali_ on 17 Nov '11 said:
LOL at gamers that are too stubborn or biased to play the graphically superior PS3 version..
Troll-diddly-ol-diddly-ay.
Paranoimia on 17 Nov '11 said:
Who says the 360 or PC versions are without bugs? Fallout 3 and New Vegas were riddled with them on all platforms.
For me this is more like a LOL at Bethesda, who must surely be one of the most incompetent groups of coders around at the moment. Every single game they produce is a bugfest, and it makes you wonder if they do any testing at all.
This is now 3 games in a row, on all platforms, which have been riddled with bugs. All trolling aside, I think it's bloody disgraceful.
They're also on record as saying that PS3 development is no longer a problem for them. So they're liars as well as incompetents.
rick on 17 Nov '11 said:
So this is remedied by not having so many save files right?
It's a case of good housekeeping unless you want to have loads of different character files.
rubblemaker on 17 Nov '11 said:
Wrong. Even if you only have one save file, its the size of that file that is the problem. Once that file gets over 6mb its all downhill from there until the save file is so big the game is unplayable. And it increases in size about 50 – 100kb every time you save. One file. Thats all it takes.
Headsrinker on 17 Nov '11 said:
I just bought this for PS3 literally 15 mins ago. HAHA, isn't my timing great! Im sure it will be patched within days though as its something everyone is experiencing.
Grapple on 17 Nov '11 said:
I've noticed that the number of save files keeps growing. Why does the auto-save create a new save file instead of over-writing the previous one? Havn't had any game breakers yet but at some point I'll have to delete all those old save files.
TheCrimsonFenix on 17 Nov '11 said:
Save on rest, save on travel, auto save have always caused problems for me with Bethesda games. Turning them all off and saving manually was the only thing that worked in the long run but even that wasn't good enough for other game ending bugs that Bethesda are known for.
rick on 17 Nov '11 said:
I don't usually weigh in on these posts but here go.
I own both consoles and whenever a multiple format title comes out I do a bit of Internet research to see which platform has the technical edge, usually lens of truth has a good feature.
I had seen a comparison on a G4 YouTube video just before Skyrim was released and the PS3 looked to have a clear edge over the xbox when it came to textures. Based on that video I decided to buy Skyrim on the PS3. My first experience playing it ended with a complete crash and at least 4 others. It didn't bother me too much as I read that the xbox and pc had their share of problems too.
I played for a couple more days but in the back of my mind I felt I had made the wrong choice. I checked out lens of truth again once they posted their article and they reported that the xbox had the edge with contrast and texture. I then exchanged Skyrim for the xbox version and haven't looked back.
I know it will annoy people on here but I am telling you this from my first hand experience. The xbox version has better contrast and texture detail. I have also not had any crashes, texture loading issues or screen tearing. I haven't installed it onto the hard drive due to the reported problems. In spite of this the loading times aren't any different to the PS3. Also as a personal preference the xbox controller feels better.
So if anyone has both consoles and is wondering which to get I would advise the xbox version.
Just telling you how it is.
clayf1ghter on 17 Nov '11 said:
Check this out pretty convincing argument in the xbox's favour and a good read.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... off-skyrim
Not that I'm on either of your side both idiotic comments
TheCrimsonFenix on 17 Nov '11 said:
Oh for goodness sake we're not seriously bringing this into a which is infinitely better direction are we? So what if one looks darker or lighter, turn the damned brightness up. So what if one looks sharper than the other? It's the same game at the end of the day and still likely to encounter the same amount of bugs seeing as this is Bethesda. Nothing gets my goat more than pretty much pointless comparisons showing differences you're only likely to see if you pause the damned game and stare. The game is still the same when it comes down to it, only slightly different in ways that don't even hamper the game experience. Get it on whatever console you prefer.
flash501 on 17 Nov '11 said:
I've just had a look and seen that my save is currently at 5.8 mb. Looks like I'll be screwed shortly!
smiles1974 on 17 Nov '11 said:
I’m lucky enough to own a PS3 @ XBOX, but the it's always a mission deciding what platform to get a multi release on...went for Dark souls on the PS3 and thank god Skyrim on the 360...saying that, it’s not without it bugs but I’m sure a patch will be out in a few weeks.
F.Y.I there is another good comparison here, plus a number of other games battlefield 3 ect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o921p4TI ... playnext=4
Cheers
StokedUp on 17 Nov '11 said:
Crimson, you've been here long enough to know that the CVG forums are possibly the worst for fanboy gamers that have these pointless arguments and kill threads by turning them into console war debates instead.
clayf1ghter on 17 Nov '11 said:
I own both consoles and maybe I'm just picky but if one does have a significant advantage over the other than thats the one I'm going to go for. Why don't you get off your high horse and read the link that i posted before making remarks about turning the brightness up etc and you'll see for yourself that their is quite a difference in this case.
TheCrimsonFenix on 17 Nov '11 said:
Oh shut up and stop assuming what I do or don't do. I clicked on the link and in my opinion there is nothing there visuals or performance wise which would make me consider one more greatly than the other. If a few frame stutters, anti aliasing, slightly blurrier textures or a bit of difference in distance fade keeps people awake at night even when the game is perfectly playable on either system, that's their choice I guess. Either way, to me at least, those are things that I am not going to obsess over when the game is still perfectly playable. It may bother some people but if the game is able to be played without it seriously hampering the game experience, they are not exactly a big problem that's going to stop people from enjoying themselves. There are far more important factors to consider when choosing which system to buy the game for. Significant is definitely not a word I would use for the differences being shown and that is coming from someone who has the PC version and has seen the Xbox and PS3 versions in action from family members. When each of them is playing the game on whatever system, not once have one of them even seriously considered comparing these sorts of differences.. but to each their own.
clayf1ghter on 17 Nov '11 said:
You obviously didn't read it because of your previous comment and now your back tracking but anyway haho couldn't give a monkeys what you think its all a matter of opinion I just wholeheartedly don't agree with yours.
a3HeadedMonkey on 17 Nov '11 said:
fix'd
Toasted_PSP on 17 Nov '11 said:
A good rule of thumb with Bethesda games is:-
Never buy a Bethesda game before the second patch is released no matter which system you use
TheCrimsonFenix on 17 Nov '11 said:
Yeah, I'm backtracking by saying the same thing I said over an hour ago, that makes perfect sense. For someone who doesn't care you get awfully annoyed by someone's opposite opinion. You don't have to explain that you don't want to agree to my view, we all know it. Just get back to playing some Skyrim, like me. I'm sure those slightly better looking trees will give you the benefit of knowing you made that big decision the right decision because looking back at the PS3 trees.. my god they look terrible and are a drag on the immersion! Personally not something I would consider noticeable all that much, just like certain attention seeking troll monkeys. Oh the hell with it..
Yeah, let your owner know you need to have that done.
clayf1ghter on 17 Nov '11 said:
I don't own Skyrim hopefully santa is going to bring it to me for xmas. Don't be a douche about it with this slightly better looking trees nonsense. For me pop in that is several seconds later on the ps3 version plus the lag when the screen gets busy not to mention the save issue in this article (which I'm sure will be patched eventually) are why I will be getting the xbox version.
I wasn't and I'm not annoyed by your opinion. It was because you glossed over the facts and I felt that your initial post was directed at me. Where all I was trying to do was point out an article that I thought was quite a suprising informative read.
DAEDALUS79 on 17 Nov '11 said:
Ive had these problems too, thought it was my ps3 overheating though. Hopefully itll be fixed soon, it only happens to me after a few hours of gameplay so isnt too bad.
StonecoldMC on 17 Nov '11 said:
Come on guys, play nice:
http://gal.darkervision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/big-brother-is-watching-you.jpg
Imaduck on 17 Nov '11 said:
Should be fixable with a patch hopefully. Quite common with HUGE games. Noticed that after playing a bazillion hours of Forza 3, it takes a few seconds to register results at the end of a race, sort of "lags". Nothing new, hope they'll fix it soon for you people
Mmmmgrolsch on 17 Nov '11 said:
I know you're just trolling but perhaps people just prefer to own what they think is the better console overall?
humanhand on 17 Nov '11 said:
Me being special ed. I didn't get that the actual file size itself keeps getting bigger. Geez. I thought the it was just the number of save files.
pepperman on 17 Nov '11 said:
Just from my own previous experience with Bethesda games on the PS3, I won't buy another.
As much as I adored the Fallout games, New Vegas was my worst gaming experience to date. Frame freezing every 15 seconds for 5 seconds once you got further into the game was just the worst. Sounds like a similar problem with Skyrim, or that the new Creation Engine simply can't handle the continuous decision making. I know that must be difficult to program.
Damn Bethesda because Skyrim is just my type of game. I know I would love it.
sammikid on 17 Nov '11 said:
I'd take a buggy game over a buggy system anyday,
After all this is Bethesda we're talking about, not playstation as a platform. I'd sooner shoot myself then "pay" for Live to listen to kids such as yourself.
mothbanquet on 17 Nov '11 said:
I have the 360 version but my best friend just got the PS3 version. I hope that patch comes asap, as nobody should have to go through this, whatever the platform.
alan666 on 17 Nov '11 said:
seems like the same sort of issue that the 360 had with Fable 3, which is one of the most bug ridden games ever released
Bright-Light on 17 Nov '11 said:
Exaclty the same problem for me with Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas, once the save file gets pretty big, the lag is extreme, and the game breaks. Im gonna get skyrim for 360 then, i was holding out for this very issue to surface before i decided.
Sammy_bham on 17 Nov '11 said:
43 hours in
8mb save file
no glitches, no slowdown, no freezes.
ps3 version.
loving it so far. only visited 4 places, got 9 side quests, and 29 miscallanious quests outstanding, and ive done 45 quests completed.
hardly touched main story, and its already the best game ive played in the past few years.
all with no issues.
ste hicky on 17 Nov '11 said:
not backing his comment but i'm afraid that's wrong: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j& ... Yg&cad=rja
a3HeadedMonkey on 17 Nov '11 said:
Yeah I'm blatantly trolling there. I made it obvious enough but I am bewildered that anyone would ONLY choose a PS3. Owning both, I can see the benefits, but if you can only have one, choosing a PS3 because of PS3 exclusives I'll never understand; Especially when Xbox usually out-performs in the multiplatform department. This gen is very much a multiplatform & online generation. It just costs hardware manufacturers far too much to keep something exclusive & to have games like Infamous & Uncharted... You're paying a heavy price by having the inferior multiplatform & online central games which are the real stars of this gen.
slick loose on 17 Nov '11 said:
I can't believe you all just got trolled...by that monkey fellow of all people.
I'm disappointed in you CVG users. Have a look at my disappointed face...
http://www.zwani.com/graphics/smiley_moods/images/disappointed.gif
Now go and take a long hard look at yourselves
FlacidDonkeyGuy on 17 Nov '11 said:
Who wants to do Skyrim co-op then? What you can't, no odd, I thought that lag only happened with online games. And what is happening is the system\game\engine is not drawing the necessary frames per second for fluid gameplay.
TheCrimsonFenix on 17 Nov '11 said:
Well that's up to you to assume I was singling you out from what I meant when referring to threads being dragged back down to comparisons. I perfectly understand that certain issues will determine someone's decision in buying whichever version they choose is the best, I just find certain comparisons a little desperate but that's just me. If one version was riddled with graphical glitches, considerably worse visuals or was designed by some other team, I'd certainly be picking up the other which doesn't suffer from those kind of serious fun reducing problems. If though the game is pretty much identical with the exception of slightly less detailed textures, slower loading screens or a few stutters that any game nowadays will at some point suffer from, I'd still end up picking that version up because it's still perfectly playable and most importantly, enjoyable. It just irks me when threads on here turn up people (and I don't mean you specifically) who end up talking like these sorts of problems are things which can be considered seriously problematic. One other problem I have with comparisons like those are that a few gamers sometimes don't even experience certain problems that are listed, so they're not always exactly irrefutable proof of one being technically better than another. I certainly didn't experience any of the so called problems the port of Half Life 2 on PS3 suffered from and that was before it was patched to hell.
All that b*****ks out of the way, the most important thing is we're all enjoying what was intended to be a great game and hopefully you do get it for Christmas because regardless of which system it is on, it's a deeply deep and enjoyable game that is likely to steal many many hours from you.
a3HeadedMonkey on 17 Nov '11 said:
Oh look, someone I mutually think is a cunt is calling me out as a troll instead of putting up a sensible argument:
Lazy.
Attention seeker.
Weeaboo.
Some of the things that spring to mind when reading your poor thought out, "can I join in, look at me" non-argument.
Try-hard must try harder. E-
See me.
TheCrimsonFenix on 17 Nov '11 said:
a3HeadedMonkey wrote: Oh look, someone I mutually think is a cunt is calling me out as a troll instead of putting up a sensible argument:
Lazy.
Attention seeker.
Weeaboo.
Earlier that day
a3HeadedMonkey wrote:
lol at gamers that are too stubborn or biased to own an Xbox over a PS3.
______________
Lazy.
Attention seeker.
Persistent.
Hypocrite.
Obvious.
Predictable.
Some of the things that spring to a lot of minds on here when reading your "must see" comments.
Less of the hypocritical garbage, more of a decent response or opinion, please. People will welcome it, unless you'd rather go and create another predictably "humorous" reply aimed at specific users which ends up falling flatter than a pensioner's penis. Why break precedent?
Imaduck on 17 Nov '11 said:
Kiss and make up you 2
BenThomasFoster on 17 Nov '11 said:
Games have to be broken. This game isn't broken it's just faulty (well ps3 version is) once again ps3 has a almost game breaking problem with a multiplatform game. Whats deal with that!
slick loose on 17 Nov '11 said:
Couldn't resist
First off, you think I'm a c**t? I'm actually flattered, I don't think you're a c**t at all...in fact I don't really think of you as anything tbh. Slightly annoying...at best.
As for your "sensible argument" jibe, you were trolling...you admitted to trolling, why on Earth would I argue with a troll? Although to be fair, I don't actually believe you are a troll...I believe you're a fan boy pure and simple. That's why you admitted to trolling, it's better than admitting your an actual fan boy...at the age of 30 too!? Now that is quite embarrassing.
Your next 3 comments are moot, read my explanation above. At least mincedbeef but some effort into slagging off the PS3 and would put up a semi decent argument. With you it's like listening to a 5 year old telling people why green is better than blue.
I refuse to get in a PS3 v 360 debate with you...because, well, I'm a grown up.
Mmmmgrolsch on 17 Nov '11 said:
Without getting into any argument at which is better for everyone, I will just state what I think is better for me. Overall I feel for me personally the PS3 is the better console all around. Yeah 1 game now and then is very very slightly worse than the 360. I'm not gonna explain why I think the PS3 is the better console for my personal needs.
You think the 360 is better that's correct, for your requirements and expectations out of a console.
For anyone else. You seriously can't go wrong with either as both have there pro's over each other and both have flaws, neither is perfect.
As for the price to keep games exlusive. Not really, not when the game devs are in house and not 3rd party. Which bith Infamous and Uncharted are both Sonys Dev teams.
As for the online comment. Yeah it's been the real star of this gen for you.
ST-Elf on 18 Nov '11 said:
It seems pretty obvious to me that most developers choose the xbox as the leading platform in production so essentially most games are ported to the PS3, hence the (usually) s**tty, sub standard version. I own both systems and it is crazy how many games run better on xbox. Peace
a3HeadedMonkey on 18 Nov '11 said:
Well even I didn't think you were stupid enough to be replying to my first post in this thread. I was of course referring to my post at the top of this page. Seems obvious now looking back, which out of the two posts you would reply to. One is a troll post which contrary to your deluded mind, no one took seriously & the other would actually involve some effort & reasoning.
Daz puts in so much effort because he cares. Me, I'm happy with my gaming console, that's why you never see me moaning about it. I'm just bored right now. Usually I couldn't really care less about arguing with people on the internet. Usually I have something far more worthwhile to do, unlike yourself & Daz.
Yeah, it has. I'm glad you're happy with your choice... only I'm seeing posts that state you aren't happy & that you wish online was more competent.
Your bed & something about lying in it, etc, etc.
TheCrimsonFenix on 18 Nov '11 said:
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/funny-gifs-almost-got-it-girl.gif
^This sums you up Monkey, you can agree or disagree. She gets there in the end but the method she's taken makes her a laughing stock.
Deep down somewhere in your replies, which usually consist of you being bored enough to troll/attention seek/annoy the easily annoyed, there lies an actual reasonable argument but it's a rare occurrence. You'll occasionally make obvious comments on certain topics which can't be argued with but by the time it happens, everybody is already aware of it. You pretty much follow the set path of, troll > troll > attention seek > troll > explain your opinion with insults and more trolling. It's that pattern of you wasting time which cements your status as an idiot on here but don't worry, I'm not just attacking you personally, just stating that which is true. Maybe if you'd take your head out of your ass once in a while you'll see why it's reasonable for some people to get annoyed with you. See, now that was me personally attacking you. Maybe if you say something clearly and constructively without doing all this dance crap, people may learn to acknowledge you as more than a 3headedtroll.
Just what do you expect when you make a comment which is aimed to annoy, whether it's out of boredom or not? Is it that unclear to you why people get p**sed off/annoyed with/dismissive of you? You're like a whore on a social site complaining about certain kinds of attention, you bring it on yourself. So stop acting the role of someone who is more intelligent than everyone else and who has everything figured out. You creating situations where you then make yourself look like the "right" one has gotten old. You may think in your head that you've proven everyone wrong but in everyone else's mind, you've only proven yourself to look like an attention seeking know it all with troll tendencies.
Again, drop the act. Give nice, get nice.
Now that's friendly advice.
slick loose on 18 Nov '11 said:
Thanks for the reply a3h, unfortunately it was pretty lame and it's like you just don't listen. Any argument or discussion about how one console is better than the other is lame...I mean what point does it serve? What do you hope to get out of it...do you just need reassurance that you made the right decision in the console department? That's a tiny bit insecure, if you ask me...
What happened to you? You were here before me and you used to be a valuable member who had proper discussions with fully explained replies. Then you went a way for a while and when you came back, you just turned into some sort of fan boy who had nothing of importance to say...at all. Did something happen at home? Please help us understand your desperate need for attention, so we can help you
What Crimson said was bang on though!
spunwicked on 18 Nov '11 said:
Guys,
I hit over 8MB a few days ago and there is no crippling lag (on an old phat ps3) - every time I have encountered massive lag has been walking through the birch forest n the way to Riften. Something about that area that is graphics intensive.
RichPerry on 18 Nov '11 said:
I thought it was just my old PS3 that was the problem. It's not crippling yet, but I'm definitely running into lag within some of the towns, especially Whiterun. Hopefully they'll patch this soon.
Otherwise, it's a fantastic game.
only_777 on 18 Nov '11 said:
It would be great if the people could type here if they are/aren't having problems and what hardware they are using. We could see if certain configurations of PS3 are having troubles.
Personally, I'm not having any problems and I see my save file going up and down in size. My system is as follows:
PS3 Type: First Gen Slim
HDD Type: 500gig 7200rpm / Hybrid Drive
ste hicky on 18 Nov '11 said:
nice to see the boards as friendly as ever.
it's what i like about CVG, all gamers who respect each other and their software choices regardless of format.
it makes me proud it does.
Imaduck on 18 Nov '11 said:
It beats a forum of political correctness and very reserved individuals who regularly study the thesaurus tho Ste. It's amusing at best and .... vibrant, at worst
ste hicky on 18 Nov '11 said:
true but some f**king sense out of some of em wouldn't go amiss man.
we've all got Skyrim, each version has strengths and weaknesses: for all the PS3 problems it's easy to point out the amount of screen tearing on 360, while the 360 version is the one i'm on (well was until 10 minutes back and i got Zelda, goodbye ESV. I'll see ya when ya work) with quests actually breaking on me. not too much room for gloating there if you ask me.
I find banter, digging,trolling amusing when it's true.
ESV is a bit of a mess for everyone right now, I know PC gamers who are happy with the Ultra settings but keep telling me they fall through the mountains the second they look at one.
The PS3 version has a bit of a framerate drop now and again, isn't quite up to 360 scratch and the save thing would worry me, is it a killer for everyone? not sure tbh. time will tell.
while the 360 version has quests breaking and tears like hell the second any particle effects start with enough bugs to keep 5 q&a teams in work for years.
I just can't see who's come out of this one on the best side.
TallPaul1878 on 18 Nov '11 said:
Well it looks like I've made a shrewd move holding on til Christmas for this game. I really hope they get this sorted pronto because Bethesda are getting a bit too regular witht these broken games. I basically stopped playing New Vegas after all the crashes and bugs. If you've ever abandoned a game you will know full well that you won't go back. It just sits there propping up my newer games.
I don't understand why this game got pushed out unfinished. It's not like it's competing with Call Of Duty. The fan base is very loyal and can fully understand how a game might get put back for more polish.
Is it really going to come to a point where gamers should wait 3 months for a game to have all it's patches in order before they purchase.?
ste hicky on 18 Nov '11 said:
I've just turned Zelda on, no patches no messing around. ready to go day 1. remember when it was always like that people? (and don't say games are more complex now, they're not.)
It's very much a western/PC thing with the likes of Konami, Nintendo, Square, etc... actually finishing their games before release. Crazy i know.
am i the only one who detests that side of gaming on the HD machines? ; Companies have carte blanche to f**k us over at retail.
It's my worst bugbear with the industry, more than dlc and paid online play (f**k you ms): this "oh well, it's not ready, f**k em. take their money and we'll patch it when we can be arsed. give the q&a teams a rise while you're at it." attitude.
customers are little more than beta testers now.
a3HeadedMonkey on 20 Nov '11 said:
@Slick Loose: I realised how pathetic & pointless that shit was.
Besides, I still reply sensibly to non-morons.
slick loose on 20 Nov '11 said:
flyfletch on 20 Nov '11 said:
Its happening on my 360 version of Skyrim, i couldnt figure out what was doing it at first, then i realised it was just after i saved that the game crashed. The 360 version is not immune, take it from me.
a3HeadedMonkey on 20 Nov '11 said:
That last post wasn't an apology btw, it was in response to your question.
slick loose on 20 Nov '11 said:
Like I would think you would apologize
King Bohan on 21 Nov '11 said:
Still the same ol' ape - three heads, no brain.
stickyfiddle on 21 Nov '11 said:
My file is about 7Mb and no trouble so far.
Anyone else not having issues?
roynluc on 21 Nov '11 said:
Still the same old PS3_Fannyboy, bye bye.
a3HeadedMonkey on 21 Nov '11 said:
@Crimson Fenix: Just noticed your post & thanks, I'm glad you're a big fan.
I'll get back to you just as soon as I start caring...
...won't be long, hang in there fella.
TheCrimsonFenix on 21 Nov '11 said:
a3HeadedMonkey on 22 Nov '11 said:
Oh, wow.! That is the most boring & obvious attempt at a "one up" that I ever saw on the whole of the internet. The ol' "But you posted, you must care" trick. I yawn in your general direction!
You know as well as I do that if I cared, I may have done an in-depth character study of you (like you did) or at the very least, attempt to argue your points or address them in any way to defend myself. I'm sorry I disappoint.
Most people here will know that I have all the time in the world to insult, patronise or belittle idiots. I'm sorry if you being included in that group irritates your vagina, but that's what you get when the internet becomes "serious business!"
Remember, those that attempt to troll trolls, are the only ones actually being trolled.
Enjoy! x
TheCrimsonFenix on 22 Nov '11 said:
And denial of all points originally mentioned, is a bitch. Whether it's an in depth character study or a simple flamebait comment, you obviously care enough either way. It may not be in the way that you're obviously thinking I think you care but you still do care. You can go through your "hee hee I got one up on someone stupid enough to get riled and irked up by my comments!" phase and never get out of it all you want but you're the only one going around in circles at the end of the day because even though you may annoy a lot of people, it's different people and you're the same person repeating yourself with the most simplest of insults. Some move on, some stay stuck in a rut. The latter is obviously you, you're smart enough to see even that. Say you don't care all you want but you really do. You just care in a different way. A way that attempts to belittle, patronise or insult people who simply call you out on your waste of space nonsense all so you can redeem any sort of self importance and superiority after someone labels you..
that would end up being one of the most predictable and boring attempts at a "one up" when being called out on predictable internet use. The ol' "IMMA TROLLIN' SO IT'S OKAY TO ACT THE ROLE OF AN IDIOT AND CALL EVERYONE AN IDIOT EVERY TIME I'M POINTED OUT AS AN OBVIOUS TROLL" trick.
A lot of decently intelligent people on here don't call you stupid for believing whatever you say, they just state the obvious; you're an obvious troll. Bang your three heads together and see if you can comprehend that and not come up with another reply that screams "I don't care mom!" I'm still smart because I don't take this seriously despite trying to explain that I have enough free time to act the role of a fool!" or you know, revert back to tripletrollhead mode and just say something that's insulting or dismissive. You're better at that than explaining yourself to sound "one up". Do I have enough free time to ramble on like this? Of course I do, it's not difficult nor time consuming to argue how ridiculous and just plain old stupid some people are on the internet and it sure as hell isn't difficult to break down a very bad defence.
Remember kids, admitting to being a troll doesn't make you much smarter than those easily annoyed by whatever you say. Some just live their lives thinking they're "smart" or much more intelligent than those they're trying too hard to annoy but when it all comes down to it.. they're wanting to act the role of a complete idiot. Now that is either some intense trollin' on Inception kind of levels or.. the most laziest attempt to make a troll's life sound in some way planned out to super villain heights.
>insert predictable way to end comment to try and instil a sense of self success in presuming that whoever reads this part is going to be screaming at the monitor because they've been "owned" here<
a3HeadedMonkey on 22 Nov '11 said:
http://troll.me/images/trololo/u-mad-bro.jpg
TheCrimsonFenix on 22 Nov '11 said:
http://gregteselle.com/thoughts/wp-content/uploads/predictable.jpg
only_777 on 22 Nov '11 said:
http://malcolm816.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/demotivators/ohf**ktheinternet_0.jpg
We are posting Memes right?
spunwicked on 22 Nov '11 said:
What? People still argue on the internet? In 2011?
These are dark times my brothers and sisters.
Dred0 on 23 Nov '11 said:
Are you sure you're not running this on the original Xbox? It should say Xbox 360 on the disc tray. There's no screen tearing. None.