Jack Tretton, CEO and president of Sony Computer Entertainment America has said that he is far too occupied with supporting the PlayStation 3 and pushing the PlayStation Vita to even think about launching new technology.
"In terms of when you talk about [the next generation] and when you announce it, it really depends on the health of the existing platform and the other things you have going on," he said.
"And right now, we're focused on PlayStation 3, and I've got another platform (PlayStation Vita) to get out the door in seven days, so I don't want to be thinking about trying to launch new technology anytime soon. I want to focus all our energy on our console business, which is really just hitting its stride, and Vita, which really deserves a dedicated push from us."
Tretton finished by remarking that having to juggle another platform this year would be 'distracting', suggesting we might not see the PS4 this year at all.
"I, quite frankly, would be very distracted if I had to be talking about next generation hardware this year."
Last month, newly appointed president of Sony Kaz Hirai also shot down rumours of a PS4 reveal at this year's E3, supporting similar statements made by SCE's Andrew House.
Early reports have suggested that the PS4 will be 'more powerful' than Microsoft's next-generation hardware.
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StonecoldMC on 17 Feb '12 said:
Tretton finished by remarking that having to juggle another platform this year would be 'distracting', suggesting we might not see the PS4 this year at all.
Who actually believed we would see a PS4 this year
?
The Wii U is coming and I would expect MS to show the NextBox at E3 this year, are Sony going to be late to the party again?
flyfletch on 17 Feb '12 said:
Well there is no way he was going to tell the truth and give MS a heads up! Even if they dont intend to show it off, i reckon they will have something in the background ready to show off if MS blow the lid on the new Xbox. No way Sony will want to be left behind this time, and leave MS to bask in the limelight.
adison on 17 Feb '12 said:
Can't wait for all the pre rendered trailers from MS & Sony at this years E3.
Sentinator on 17 Feb '12 said:
You can tell how far they are by the rumours though. He's saying PS4 won't show this year because the chances are it won't. Its nothing to do with MS. You can tell MS already fear competition from Nintendo (regardless of what they say) by how many rumours about the next Xbox are coming. We are hearing more rumours about the next xbox than we are Wii U. MS are full steam ahead in building their new system. Sony however just aren't ready to move on like the others. The chances are when they said 10 year plan they literally meant 2015 was the year they wanted to release it. The idea that PS4 would come earlier was just a belief but its a belief thats going to happen.
Sony pretty much need to show their hand at next years E3. While its confirmed the next xbox isn't releasing this year (and I never expected it to) that doesn't mean Microsoft won't show anything on it. MS at least won't let Wii U hype go unchallenged. And that means Sony better get a move on or they will be left in the dust again.
metallicorphan on 17 Feb '12 said:
see this is a bit misleading,as the quote to me would mean 'anytime soon'= within the next 6 months....i don't think there is anyone on the planet who expect the machine to be launched in the next 6 months,maybe not even the next 12 months
but that quote above could still mean that an announcement could be made in that time,and that is really the only meat that people are talking/speculating about at the moment
ricflair on 17 Feb '12 said:
Microsoft's change of direction since 2009 already says to me that they are more concerned with Nintendo than Sony. I can definitely imagine a 'spoiler' Xbox announcement at E3, even if it shows next to nothing. Just something to sow some seeds of doubt into potential Wii U purchasers, a la the hype about the power of the PS2.
I'm not sure Sony are that bothered, and with the PS3 selling well and finally not losing them loads of cash, plus having the Vita to concentrate on, I simply can't see anything about the PS4 this year that will have any real meaning. Although they might try and spoil the Wii U launch too. That's not a bitter thing, just business I suppose.
RustySpoon80 on 17 Feb '12 said:
It'd be interesting if Sony decided to skip next gen. Keep the PS3 going for another 3-4 years then come out with a Next-Next gen machine - 8x more powerful (or whatever) than X720, and thus being first to that generation.
YouStoleMyKill on 17 Feb '12 said:
'I'm not thinking about trying to launch PS4 anytime soon,'
Not up to you though is it Jack?
mushi_mush on 17 Feb '12 said:
we need badly new console... old ones are still okay but miles away from current PC.
games are good on bith consoles but lack the graphic capabilities and RAM is just awful.
if Xbox releases their console first and its way better than 360 then for the first time ever i will consider to ditch SOny and get an new xbox.
come on, Sony!!!! we need full HD 3d gaming system with stunning graphics. NOW!!!
Currychips on 17 Feb '12 said:
The luke warm reception to the Vita and it's lack of amazing sales will push them to release a next-gen console sooner than they'd like I'd imagine.
DAEDALUS79 on 17 Feb '12 said:
I really hope they dont just yet. Im about th buy a vita and have a ps3, I think the two offer more than enough to hold off on a new console for another 2-4 years
gnokgnik on 17 Feb '12 said:
All these rumors have been officially 'shot down' but CVG fails to get the message. Can you please quit writing this cr*p every week and wait until it's actually happening ? If it'll be at E3 this year or the next, we'll just have to wait and see FFS.
Barca Azul on 17 Feb '12 said:
I think there are 3 types of punters. Core, Casual and the third ill call mature as its where I think I sit. Sony looks more to Mature and to an extent Core and dabble in casual. This is why I dont think they are so worried about Nintendo.
The "Mature" gamer, may be a bit older (25 plus)and a may have more disposible income, less interested on Multiplayer and likes more variety in games. Im not interested in playing Mario/Zelda anymore for example, like I did 20 years ago. Im also not a massive fan of FPS (occasionally). Probably plays 5-10 plus hours a week, but wants those games to be core/high level style.
I have a funny feeling MS are going after the casual space, as it see's it as the next big thing. whether they do that at the expense of core remains to be seen, but its not certain and less likely. I think this is why there are more MS rumours too.
PS4 March 2014 is my bet. I think the next Xbox will release before that in 2013 sometime.
a_adji on 17 Feb '12 said:
I am not a Sony fanboy but more so Nintendo but to be fair to Sony, they have lost shhhhhish loads of money and the PS3 is still the most powerful system on the market. Personally, they could stick with it into the new gen. Even more so if Nintendo kicked ass with an upgrade of a Game Cube.
Flamestrike on 17 Feb '12 said:
Microsoft are definitely going after the casual market, (you only have to look at their massive focus on Kinect, lack of boxed core exclusives and their putting games as almost an afterthought with the latest dashboard), so whether or not this forces Sony's hand will be down to whether Microsoft's gamble pays off or not.
Personally I could happily wait a few more years.
S-Smith on 17 Feb '12 said:
i am glad. stick with the ps3 for now. soon it will overtake the xbox360 in worldwide sales
Selanmere on 17 Feb '12 said:
I wouldn't want a next gen console either in 1-2 years.
I have just finished most big hits on the ps3 and i am now catching up with pc games.
That should last a while..
kbekl on 17 Feb '12 said:
really the ps3 isnt anything much its too slow and cross platform it is poor
sony cant afford to lose to ms again and they know it
ms are not being stupid like you all think the next xbox is looking like its going for all markets frome mature to casual.
sony tried it and faild yet again this gen
out of the 2 ms could string the xbox for a little longer but sony really need to beat ms to the next gen
and if you are a pc gamer you should now we need a new gen only a moron with a gaming pc would state these gen consoles are fine
also do you want just sequels or nice new ip's, while the current consoles are ending the new ip will not come
Barca Azul on 17 Feb '12 said:
Id hardly say that any of the 3 consoles were a failure. 50M plus sales each on 3 sepparate consoles is good for all of them, IMO. I think they all have their success stories.
The problem with trying to please everyone is someone will feel left out for sure, without massive investments!
Failcube on 17 Feb '12 said:
The IGN link goes to your own article and not IGN...
Paradaz - UK on 17 Feb '12 said:
And what would that achieve?.....sales figures are relevant only to shareholders. Will there be a mighty bang and a sudden increase in quality games when the PS3 hits the lead?. Will games suddenly run at 60fps at 1080p? What's so interesting/important about sales figures.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't even think Microsoft boast about it........why would Sony or you for that matter?
mynamerahmat on 17 Feb '12 said:
guys don't you remember sony develp tv with super high dev around 4000pixel ?
maybe they want their next console capable to play game with that resolution and hardware price are capable to make it a console not just 1080p or full 3d, sony love to make gamers jawdrop that's why i love sony
wwinterj on 17 Feb '12 said:
I own all consoles this gen and feel we don't need a next gen console just yet. The WII U I understand as the WII isn't HD and that's fine. I'll buy one when cheap however just as I did with the WII due to lack of games that interest me. I hardly play it as the motion control gimmick isn't for me. However I deal with it if there is a game I really want.
I really can't think of ways that a PS4 or next gen Xbox can change gaming aside from the obvious graphics upgrade. Things like Kinect or Move don't really do it for me. Just give me a control pad and I'm happy. I'm still intrigued as to what Sony and Microsoft do with next gen consoles though.
Flamestrike on 17 Feb '12 said:
Yes, because the PSone and PS2 were huge failures and 50+ million ps3's sold is a disaster...
Oh wait.
The Bossman on 17 Feb '12 said:
With the PS3 I only bought it in March 08, about 2 years after it was released, so this time if they do release one relatively quickly, a year or 2 away, I'll make sure to try to get one on launch. Just as long as it's no more than £500 lol. Stupid Ken.
Agent75 on 17 Feb '12 said:
Wii U this year, Xbox 720 in 2013/14, Sony are not going to sit back. PS3 tech has been passed over to the Vita, so it's not money wasted. I think the PS4 will be out just after the Xbox 720. As for the Vita, I'm 100% convinced it'll flop, forcing a price drop. Hardly anyone has pre ordered it, most gamers are hoping it goes the same way as the 3DS launch. Sales have taken a mass dive in Japan, even Shopto have started discounting it. Sony will never learn.
Agent75 on 17 Feb '12 said:
The PS3 is about 3 million consoles behind the Xbox 360, not that I'm bothered. The PS3 will only overtake it if Microsoft ditch it for the Xbox 720. Obviously the PS3 will overtake the Xbox 360 if it has a longer shelf life.
adison on 17 Feb '12 said:
It would be better for everyone if this stupid hardware war was ended, Its about time there was only one piece of hardware to buy and anybody could manufacture it (Just like DVD players) this would leave Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft to concentrate on software and peripherals and would make game developers jobs a lot easier.
If only the big three could grow up and stop playing the my penis is bigger than yours game.
Except Nintendo as they have admitted that they have a small one but they like to waggle it everywhere.
Paradaz - UK on 17 Feb '12 said:
Good point, and one that I've stated many times myself.
Exclusives aren't good for anybody. People always try and make the counter argument that there would be no competition if there was a single format but that is complete rubbish. If there was a single format then the competition would be in the quality of games in the hands of developers and not a brand name on a bit of manufacturers plastic.
It wouldn't stop different features being on a single format console but only the games functionality would follow a set of regulations agreed by a central body. Again, the example of hi-fi's, bluray players and dvds are a prime example....they all play an agreed format of media but the hardware themselves are totally different, support different features and are priced accordingly.
Mmmmgrolsch on 17 Feb '12 said:
One format hardware for gaming would just be a mess. Anyway that's called a PC. Also the DVD comparison is utterly laughable.
Paul_Boland2 on 17 Feb '12 said:
I want to buy a Playstation but the PS3 has been out for so long now that I'm not willing to invest in it.
Imaduck on 17 Feb '12 said:
Aw come on Sony ! Don't show up to the party at six in the morning and try to sell champagne again! Sony NEED to be on the ball from the start of the next gen. Establishment, building a fan base, and being on the f**king map when the demand is there are kind of important damn it
Balladeer on 17 Feb '12 said:
This. But not going to happen anyway, so that's all right.
Fr33Kye on 17 Feb '12 said:
That makes no sense whatsoever.
It might actually be a good idea for them to skip next gen. Focus on the vita before pouring money into a ps4. That way the actual ps4 could be the best console it can be and sony can spend the time actually learning from their competition.
If they dont skip next generation, they need to understand that if they are coming late to the party, they better bring a f**king parade. They have to blow people away if they are going to launch well after their competition, especially because the nextbox is guaranteed to be a great console(At least business wise). Microsoft is just too great at taking notes. And it's also VERY likely the wiiu will take off.
Right now they should focus on generating hype for that handheld that is supposedly launching soon. Great marketing conquers all but i dont think sony have what it takes in that department. They should be showing off all of its gimmicky capabilities. Though maybe they are better off focusing heavily on the dedicated gamer early on. And if they intend to do that, they should expect a rough first year, though ads like "the world in play" is a good start for that demographic. Handheld gaming still isn't really considered "cool". And while people may hate the idea of something having to be "cool", it doesnt change the fact that many still look at you weird if you are gaming on a handheld, but not if you are gaming on a phone. I think sony should try to change that, isn't that what they did for console gaming? They aren't going to be able to appeal to kids more than nintendo, nor can they appeal to casual gamers, so their best chance is to aim for cool and trendy as f**k. Then they can aim for a more cool multifaceted gadget later.
Fr33Kye on 17 Feb '12 said:
I would totally be down for one console if nintendo drop every ip made before 2000.
fatherofthenoo on 17 Feb '12 said:
I am not particularly looking forward to seeing what Microsoft and Sony have in store for us in the future. If the rumours and recent hardware are anything to go, it wont be much to sing and dance about. They seem more interested in chasing the smartphone generation and killing off used games sales.
Im sorry to come back to Nintendo on this again, but since they are actually liaising with developers and are focusing on what we gamers want, I am more optimistic about what to expect from them these days.
liveswired on 17 Feb '12 said:
The PS3 is still more than capable of producing beautiful games for the next few years - no need for ps4 for another two years.
1Nightmare1 on 17 Feb '12 said:
Well there was practically nothing new here. Nobody expects PS 4 to come out this year, or maybe even next year. It probably won't happen until late 2013 or somewhere in 2014. It still would be nice to hear some details on what the console giants are thinking about putting in their next console. I do think though that this year's E3 might be interesting, because the second one of them announces a new console, then the other would have to counter it in their session in a heartbeat. Although the pressure might be on MS since they are going first.
kbekl on 18 Feb '12 said:
never said failure i was talking about the casual gamer ie move
kbekl on 18 Feb '12 said:
erm yes sony have failed how much over all of them 50 mil units have actually netted them a profit ?
also how many of them 50 mil units were replacement consoles
and then onto the second failure of sony the move really caught on didn't it
sony watch in laughter when MS xboxes were failing due to the heat issues but they did naff all about it them selves just sat back and let the consumer take the slack, sony f**ked up this gen big time with the core processor and only shipping with 256mb ram, they had time to sort it out
i have 2 ps3's and 2 xboxes but the 2 xboxes are still working fully, and the ps3's aint.
sony as a brand are good and quality is up their i have most of the electricals in the house made by sony but the playstation section is a joke
reality check people 256mb's of ram wont cut it same as a 5gb hdd wont cut it, once wii u is out ms will have the xbox 720 on its heels and unless sony want to be out of the gaming business for 5+ years then they better follow suit
i wanted the ps3 to be the xbox's replacement but it just wasn't for a few reason and most people nowadays just have them for their bluray playback not games
horngreen on 18 Feb '12 said:
Oh I'm sure it will be more powerful, better be if it's launching after the "720". Unfortunately for Sony it will also be hard to program and overpriced so it ONCE AGAIN will always just be a claim and never shown in gameplay.
Flamestrike on 18 Feb '12 said:
You mean like Microsoft? Oh wait, sorry, got confused with Nintendo...hang on...um....
Er, I think you may have gotten yourself confused with the Xbox 360 RROD scenario there, mate.
I assume you're refering to the YLOD that became a small issue 18 months or so ago for Sony? Hate to break the news to you, but it was blip compared to the massive cluster-f**k that was RROD on the 360. What made it worse was MS' refusal to acknowledge it for the first two years and even going as far as to lay the blame at the feet of consumers.
I do like that you've convinced yourself that it was Sony who had the major issue though, not Microsoft. Pretty impressive.
Considering Sony didn't pimp Move as much as MS did with Kinect it actually did and continues to do surprisingly well. Move was never a key focus of Sony's and never has been. Considering the frankly laughable line up of games available for Kinect and the hundreds of millions they've poured into advertising, MS have a great deal more to lose with Kinect than Sony do with Move.
The rest of your post was just fanboy waffle I'm afraid.
Look, if you're going to spout fanboy b*****ks or go on a flamewar at least post something reasonably concrete, like Sony's security f**k up for example.
Flamestrike on 18 Feb '12 said:
You're absolutely right. Not a single title released for the PS3 showed off it''s capabilites. Might as well have been playing on an Atari 2600. /sarcasm
As for the future? Well, I wish I had your crystal ball. Does it use motion control?
Selanmere on 18 Feb '12 said:
I don't claim to be either a ps3 gamer or a pc gamer. I play wherever I can.
As good as new ip can be most of last year's top games were sequels: Skyrim. Uncharted, Assassin's, Modern Warfare, Batllefield, Batman. Hell, the best games of this are going to be sequels as well: Diablo, Bioshock, MW again, Mass effect, so on. Even if new gen arrives there are going to be sequels.
But I prefer not having to pay god knows how much for a new console/ pc upgrade and I believe the devs can do a better job this gen rather than having to learn a new development process(apart from pc).
xxx128 on 18 Feb '12 said:
SEGA's revenge...finally Sorry dudes but Arrogance and Incompetence never makes a smart couple. Cya.
Old Skool Gamer on 18 Feb '12 said:
That might well happen, lots of restructuring being done at Sony at the moment after they lost a s**t load of money this last year, MS will be out after Wii U with production starting December 2012 @ Global Foundaries, but at the rumoured £399 for the nextbox most people won't rush out this time around, current gen still ok for a few years yet, lots of cheap games and massive userbase.
Flamestrike on 18 Feb '12 said:
^
For what exactly? Oh please don't tell me that you're one of these butt hurt wankers who pin Sega dropping out of the console race purely on Sony?
Grow up.
Flamestrike on 18 Feb '12 said:
I'd actually prefer if Sony went that route. It's important to note, and contrary to what the Xbox fanboys think, that Sony's software/Playstation division is actually making a profit, its their other divisions that are feeling the pinch, (phones, tvs etc), so it'll be interesting to see what route they take.
Zepf on 18 Feb '12 said:
That would definitley be interesting if Sony stuck with the PS3 for a good while longer.
It was genuinely impressive what was achievable with the PS2 when the 360 was launched for example. Shadow of the colossus and Black were fantastic and totally took the wind out of the 360 launch for me( I bought the core pack on launch, but logged far more hours on Black than PDZ) The same tactic might work again.
flyfletch on 18 Feb '12 said:
This is possible, as for people not running out for the next xbox, dont be so sure, £399 isnt that bad, but i doubt it will be that poss £300, Ms are not stupid, and they can afford to take a hit on the console, even if they dont want to, they will do what it takes. Just like they did this generation, they will want to beat the competition, and taking a hit of a couple of billion on the console isnt really that much to MS.
From that point of view, thats where Sony cant really compete, they are as you say having problems and it would actually be in MS favour to bring out something powerful and take a hit, becuase it would actually force Sony's hand by making them choose, bring out an affordable reasonably powerful machine....or bring out a very powerful machine and take a hit (which they cant afford) i wouldnt like to be in Sony position now, its not a great one to be in.
I wish they would both bring out great poweful machines, because i love both the Xbox and the PS.....so i wait with baited breath!!
illage2 on 18 Feb '12 said:
I don't care when they launch, I just want to know the following things.
1. Will motion and touch screen controls be optional.
2. Will it have a decent (and free) on-line service.
3. Will it have a decent launch line up.
4. The price. (Anything above £250 is a no buy)
Paradaz - UK on 18 Feb '12 said:
I think you can look forward to not playing any console games next gen then, I can't see either of them being particularly cheap as there is too much pressure on technology/hardware.
me4pd on 18 Feb '12 said:
That's it? You don't want to know what the machine will do? You don't hope it'll do something just a little bit different to this gen before you hand over £250 for it?
Flamestrike on 18 Feb '12 said:
Very true.
Fr33Kye on 18 Feb '12 said:
Sony are truly stuck in the middle. Microsoft have the deep pockets and the ridiculous knowledge and understanding of business, marketing and software. Nintendo have the brands so they really dont have to try as hard
. Sony's strength should be combining in unifying there companies entertainment sectors and creating a cohesive experience. That and really good hardware should be their strengths next gen. They can potentially create the best entertainment system, design the best hardware(though the 360 is better design than the ps3 but sony seemed to have learned to look forward), and they own a bunch of f**king devs. Kaz just has to pull the company's head out of it's own ass and bring it together, then truly do their research because i'm damn sure microsoft never stops studying.
The Bossman on 19 Feb '12 said:
Well, I guess you could call Mario a brand but that's about the only one they have. Microsoft don't have many either, probably 3 main series and that's about it. Sony have a quite a few, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, God Of War, Infamous, Motorstorm, R&C, Resistance, Buzz, Singstar. I'm not flaming I'm just stating the truth, Sony used to have minimal exclusives but now they're got more than the others combined.
Balladeer on 19 Feb '12 said:
I agree with Fr33 on this - they have so many brands. Zelda? Pokémon? Donkey Kong? Even Tetris? How can you omit Zelda and yet mention Uncharted? Zelda's a much longer-established brand, if maybe not as well known in this day and age (sniff!).
Although I will rise slightly to the bait and agree that Nintendo, with their brands, don't have to try as hard - but still do.
Flamestrike on 19 Feb '12 said:
'Guess' you could call Mario a brand! Are you on crack?
Did you know at one time more kids recognised Mario more than Mickey Mouse?
Pokemon alone as a popular Nintendo brand wipes the floor with every brand Microsoft and Sony have in terms of life long sales and popularity.
Fr33Kye on 19 Feb '12 said:
Exactly. I cant say they still do, at least not with pokemon
Balladeer on 19 Feb '12 said:
I won't dispute Pokémon with you, although the recent ones were a return to form after the awful Diamond/Pearl.
Fr33Kye on 19 Feb '12 said:
Eh i havent played the new ones. Diamond and pearl were only terrible if you compare them to say....ruby and sapphire....or gold and silver...damn..they did kind of suck...but i like diamond more than i like playing fire red and leaf green. Mostly because leaf green and fire red felt "been there done that" for obvious reasons.
ricflair on 20 Feb '12 said:
That's just madness on so many levels!
Firstly, Sony had s**t loads of exclusives on the PS1 and PS2, although a lot were third party due to their dominance. Secondly, Nintendo have s**t loads too, although granted some haven't been seen since the Gamecube, like F Zero, Wave Race and Pikmin. Mario has loads of different series himself (Kart, RPG, Paper, various sports games, Party, your standard 2D/3D platformers), then there's Smash Bros, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Nintendogs, Animal Crossing, Star Fox, Kirby, Pokemon, Nintendo Wars, Kid Icarus...
Sony have done really well with exclusives this gen, some of them haven't quite hit the mark for me, but they're still great options. But to make out like they have loads more than Nintendo is just nonsense.