The first Assassin's Creed 3 gameplay details have emerged via US magazine Game Informer.
The new hero is called Connor and has an English father and Native American mother. During AC 3's opening players will experience Conner's childhood on the American frontier as he's raised by the Mowhawk.
Conner eventually dedicates his life to confronting tyranny (and Templars), says GI, after white colonists attack and burn down his village.
An updated game engine capable of putting thousand-man battles on screen powers Assassin's Creed 3, and a brand new animation system (with nothing carried over from previous games) and impressive facial animations are promised.
A new platforming approach will have players climbing trees and mountain cliffs, and you'll meet George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and Charles Lee during your journeys.
Most importantly, not all British colonists will be cast as evil oppressors, says Ubisoft.
The first Assassin's Creed 3 screens appeared this afternoon. Here's the full breakdown of the GI details, via NeoGAF:
- New hero called Connor/Ratohnhake:ton (pronounced Ra-doon-ha-gay-doo). He has an English father and Native American mother.
- More details about the protagonist/scenarios: You will experience Conner's childhood on the American frontier as he is raised by the Mohawk. The Mohawk eventually clash with white colonists who burn their village down, causing Connor to dedicate his life to confront tyranny and injustice.
- A new traversal approach that has players leaping and climbing trees and mountain cliffs.
- Uses a new version of the Anvil engine that can "depict thousands of troops engaged in bloody battle" along with highly detailed face close
- ups. They later imply that if they used version numbers, they would be like going from Anvil 1.0 -> Anvil 2.0 or something of that nature.
- Judging by the images, the faces really are quite good.
- Combat is focused on putting you on the offensive and based on speed/momentum.
- The main character has thousands of new and unique animations (no carry over from other titles) to support the new combat system.
- Character details:
- George Washington: Interacting with Washington is one of the core relationships of the game.
- Benjamin Franklin: He's not a convenient inventor a la Da Vinci.
- Charles Lee: His role is a mystery.
- The game is set between the years 1753 - 1783 and is centered around the cities of Boston and New York.
- "It's not just going to a historical building now; it's going to a historical event."
- Event examples: "You will see the great fire of New York. You will visit Valley Forge as a location that is currently occupied by Washington's forces. You will visit these places in the moment that they were important, and hopefully, experience the reason why we know where they are today. That's the goal."
- Connor is in the heart of major battles, and they can now have a couple thousand guys on screen, whereas before it was capped at about 100.
- The overall story is still centered around the Assassins versus the Templars and Connor's journey.
- Not all the Colonists will be cast as good people, and not all the British will be cast as evil oppressors. They're trying to focus on how both the Assassins and Templars viewpoints exist in a gray morality as the Templars really believe they're saving the world.
- The French and Native Americans will also feature in the game, as was probably really obvious.
- The modern day stuff relates to that location in New York at the end of Revelations.
- There will be all sorts of wilderness in the game referred to as the Frontier.
- The map of the Frontier is 1.5 times bigger than the entire map of Brotherhood.
- The Frontier is not empty like in Assassin's Creed 1, but features a third of the game's missions and gameplay content.
- You can hunt animals for resources, and how you kill them effects your reward. A one hit kill on a bear gets you a much more valuable pelt than stabbing it eight times.
- The wilderness traversal plays a big part in the gameplay in the Frontier, allowing you to use trees, cliffs, ledges, and more to set up kills and combat.
- Connor does have a hidden blade.
- The world changes as time passes, so a field where a battle happened in one year may just be a series of empty encampments a few months later.
- The entire world will change with seasons, so the cities and the wilderness will all exist in both Summer and Winter settings.
- In the winter, soldiers will move slowly and stumble about in the snow, and lakes and rivers will freeze over allowing you new terrain to work with. This gives Connor an extra advantage since he can still use the trees and wilderness pretty effectively during this time of year.
- There are all sorts of clubs and groups who want you to join and give you quests. These are separate from the mission system. These clubs will contact you based on what you do in the game. For example, hunting a lot will get you an invitation to the hunting society.
- There will be a goods based economy, a new property system, and more Desmond stuff.
- There's going to be some new puzzle thing like the first person Tetris.
- There's a new Animus database known as Animus 3.0.
- They're not unveiling anything about the multiplayer yet.
- There will be more platforming levels.
- Full synchronization returns, but with major tweaks. Missions have checkpoints, You also get significant rewards for doing these tasks instead of a 100%. "Imagine a leveling system in an RPG, except there's a finite amount of XP to find. The more in-sync you get, the more you fill your sync bar. Within each mission, each activity you complete has a value". You can replay everything to increase your score.
- They imply there is something resembling the Brotherhood system of picking up fellow assassins.
- Aligned groups are gone, but something new is replacing them in regards to factions. They don't say what.
- There's a new notoriety system that is more hidden and doesn't penalize you for exploring risky areas.
- The game has fast travel because the game has more traveling.
- Don't expect more tower defense.
- You can upgrade Connor's gear and costume as the game goes on in an attempt to make it feel more authentic.
- The cities have a lot more subtle detail now in terms of ambient things that happen.
- You can now leap over wagons or slide under obstacles, including navigating over and around moving objects. The free running stuff also has you jumping through windows to trees and then on top of church roofs. Basically, expect the free running stuff, but more fluid and presumably generally closer to the ground.
- Connor enters battle with two weapons. The game uses the same controls in and out of battle.
- The tomahawk and knife are a "constant presence" in battle. They also let you do double counters and multiple takedowns, and you can chain kills.
- There's no more target locking, it just automatically detects your target. Counter/defense are the same button to prevent turtling.
- You can use human shields and other context sensitive moves.
- They want you to constantly move in battle.
- There are lots of secondary attacks like the one shot pistol on the Y button.
- There's a new dynamic camera to track the action and make it look as cinematic as possible.
- There is a new sprinting system also, so you can hold the button to instantly turn around and start fleeing from combat. They also let you kill people while still moving so you can keep chasing a target. They kind of imply you can even leap off of them after you kill them, though I'm not sure if that makes you faster or just doesn't impede your movement.
- They really, really, really want you to constantly move. I mean like they say this every four sentences. Not just in battle, but in every section of the game.
- They also try to keep you more in control of the combat than ever before.
- Game Informer really loves their animation system.
- There are around 2.5 hours of character scenes in the game that are fully acted and recorded. They mean this in Naughty Dog style where they have the actors being mocaped while performing on a set that resembles the scene in the game.
- They're aiming for accuracy by having historical dialog consultants and actual Native American actors.
- This game has the longest development cycle since AC1, and has twice the production capacity (in terms of work hours) and budget of Revelations.
- They want the game to feel like AC3.5, and the game will have its first version complete in just a few more weeks, at which point they're going to spend the rest of their time refining it.
Comments
88 comments so far...
Fr33Kye on 2 Mar '12 said:
Oh f**k yes. I am so incredibly excited for AC for the first time in a while. It actually seems like the evolution for the franchise i was hoping for! It's gonna be difficult to succumb to the hype.
ithurtstopoop on 2 Mar '12 said:
"Not all English are evil"? I'll prove them wrong and I'll start by upper-cutting a poodle
AntarcticApe95 on 2 Mar '12 said:
Well, this sounds incredible but after the dissapointment that was Revelations I really don't want to get my hopes up too much. Then again, the words "3 years", being able to climb trees and mountatains and exploring more than one location are sounding reeeal good.
Stryker89 on 2 Mar '12 said:
Knowing how much time and effort was spent on this game kinda allows me to forgive Revelations' shortcomings. I must say though, Conner is a remarkably common name compared to Altair and Ezio, even Desmond.
hi0marc on 2 Mar '12 said:
"New hero called Connor/Ratohnhake:ton (pronounced Ra-doon-ha-gay-doo)."
So Connor then.
photoboy on 2 Mar '12 said:
Some of this sounds alright, but overall it's sounding very... flat. If New York and Boston aren't full of tall buildings to jump off its not really going to feel much like an AC game; trees and cliffs aren't really very exciting to climb. Setting the game in a Victorian-era London or Paris would have been more suitable I think.
I loved AC2, but the annual sequels have really burned me out on this franchise. I haven't even finished Brotherhood yet. I'll probably give this a try, but it's going to have to be bloody good to really get me excited about the franchise again.
sepewrath on 2 Mar '12 said:
Of course all English are evil, its a well noted fact
1Nightmare1 on 2 Mar '12 said:
Looks like a well formed sequel. It has a nice story, new characters, new motions, new engine etc. This time the game seems to have a change in pace. Using tomahawks sounds awesome. I have skipped Revelations because it seems to me like Brotherhood remix, but won't miss this one that's for sure.
gmcb007 on 2 Mar '12 said:
Sounds like it takes a lot from RDR.
FemmeFatale on 2 Mar '12 said:
after reading all this all i have to say is how ubisoft killed a beautiful franchise by americanising it they killed the story they killed the epicness they killed the entire series it's awful that ever damn videogame needs a stupid american hero or setting it's getting really really boring americans are always heroes the rest of the world are always bad guys. I can't help but laugh as for conner or Ra-doon-ha-gay-doo watever im sure buddy but you can't even stand next to Ezio & Altair's shadow those two were the best sorry buddynothing against you
JCHN on 2 Mar '12 said:
Yes, because Connor is a very 18th century name, isn't it?
JOEuk91 on 2 Mar '12 said:
I would commit mass genocide for a reveal trailer right now.
Subject J80 on 2 Mar '12 said:
I hear you. This all sounds very impressive..........roll on Monday for the first trailer...
JOEuk91 on 2 Mar '12 said:
I really want to see gameplay after reading all that, but I think a mind blowing pre rendered trailer that Ubisoft have done for all the previous games is most likely, and will suit me just fine
TheCrimsonFenix on 2 Mar '12 said:
It sounds like things I would enjoy as an improvement but I think I'll wait til we have some decent gameplay up and running. ACII to me wasn't exactly a major upgrade even though a lot of people think it was. The first was hardly full of things to do, the second just didn't gel with me and neither did the "sequels". Would have been nice to have this "redefined" AC a couple years ago. Ubi really have soured my opinion of them with their approach of yearly update cycle to the series. I honestly hope this one really does feel like it's been reworked as they say because Skyrim for sure definitely did not have an entirely new engine like Bethesda said. Hopefully it can stand by itself as a title and not feel like another entry to a collection.
cheatcodechamp on 2 Mar '12 said:
I'd like to see how they put his background into the game, during the war, the English and Mohawk where ally's. so some people will hate him based on that alone, he will have to learn how to deal with his past and how his tribes is sided now
FunSponge on 2 Mar '12 said:
So Ubisoft just thought hey! Lets use the old formula, throw in some LA Noire and MGS3 features and dish it out as a whole new game.
Don't get excited lads, it may look good but if it plays the same way as the previous 2 titles I think I'll give it a miss
Oh and I say 2 cause Brotherhood and Revelations were just gimme' money games.
Mini-Nev on 2 Mar '12 said:
"Don't expect more tower defense."
Best news of 2012!
TheLastDodo on 2 Mar '12 said:
Sounds like the best Assassins Creed yet.
Still a shame about the new setting though.
Windowlicker79 on 2 Mar '12 said:
lol you've not actually read any of this article have you? And you don't know anything about the American revolution do you?
The main character is half ENGLISH and half NATIVE American. He won't be your typical American hero and it won't be set in an America that you recognise.
Do some research. It'll make you look less idiotic.
Riize411 on 2 Mar '12 said:
I wonder what the new assassin is going to be like
shurman666 on 2 Mar '12 said:
i am disappointed... they just killed the old story-line and made a new one... how sad :C
Weezer on 2 Mar '12 said:
@ FemmeFatale - Here are some commas and full stops for you to use in your next post. I've even thrown in some semi-colons for a laugh.
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' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
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Stryker89 on 3 Mar '12 said:
For your own sake, please stop commenting on these Assassin's Creed articles, you're sounding more ridiculous as you go on. Don't get me started on the grammar either... As someone else has suggested, perhaps a little research on the subject might help? I know IGN have done a good video giving a bit of insight into the history behind this instalment, you could start there.
You play as a half English, half Native American in a game which primarily makes use of American countryside and mountainous regions- how does that sound typically "Americanised"? It doesn't at all, you're simply harping on about how Ubisoft have ruined your beloved franchise without backing it up with some VALID points.
dicky1993 on 3 Mar '12 said:
oh f**k yes, looks like a decent assassins creed, robin hood style/ bit of red dead, and better locations fuuuuuuuck yes and i thought they killed it with revelations
XcSkullzCx on 3 Mar '12 said:
Not every game has an american hero gta4 the hero was russian modern warfare 3 the hero was british all the other assassins creed the heroes were muslim altair and italian for ezio the saboteur the hero is irish i mean i just dont see whats so bad with having the american as a hero in a game i just dont see how it ruins it i wouldnt care what race the hero was i would still play it because i like the game
kmcroc on 3 Mar '12 said:
Am sold, give me a release date .
kmcroc on 3 Mar '12 said:
+10 bravo
daddisulta on 3 Mar '12 said:
Well how bout you stop being a bitter and shallow f**k. He´s a Native American and that has never been done before in video games, WTF!! Do you really want another repetetive Ezio game, we've already had three games in the renassiance era. This sounds so f**king epic, magical and organic.. Climbing trees and with the exeption of buildings and hunting... They've worked so hard on making this game series go to another fresh direction and you're quick to judge a game you haven't even played.. Shame on you! I bet in the future you'll be all like "this random icelandic guy was right, what a stubborn child I was once".. Respect that this developer still makes quality games
TheCrimsonFenix on 3 Mar '12 said:
Jericho, Turok, Prey, Darkwatch, to name a few.
sepewrath on 3 Mar '12 said:
I hope this trailer is not CGI, if they are changing the gameplay, then I actually want to see the game, not exaggerated CG.
rhyfel on 3 Mar '12 said:
assassins creed games have allways had a lot of climbing and platforming, but if the new game is set in america in the 1750s what will are hero have to climb? there was nothing in america then no tall buildings or churches, all he'l have to climb are bloody trees, assassins creed games have always been set with a strong emphasis on history well america has not got much of a history and the average american knows even less.
budge on 3 Mar '12 said:
I'm thinking back to the first Assassin's Creed with its open countyside and small villages inbetween the major cities and i quite liked that. I hope that playing AC3 makes you FEEL like an assassin like in the first two games rather than a gung-ho fella in a fancy outfit (a bit that that zany indian movie shown yesterday).
moogiesboy on 3 Mar '12 said:
I'm calling it now - this looks like being the metal gear solid 3 of the Creed franchise <<<< and that's a really good thing!
Paul_27 on 3 Mar '12 said:
the english rule as 99% americans are evil gits when they get beat in a multiplayer game as you can hear them swear and scream all the time
Errentos on 3 Mar '12 said:
....they do realise that the Mohawk tribes fought on the British side don't they?
potnoodle1 on 3 Mar '12 said:
Well that's put my mind at ease a bit. After reading that I'm looking forward to seeing what they've done with it.
Windowlicker79 on 3 Mar '12 said:
OK so I'm going to lump you in with FemmeFatale and tell you to do some research.
Do you really think they didn't have buildings back then? Really?? DO SOME RESEARCH.
Below are some images that I found just by Googling "New York 1700s".
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mlPoGU4VqSk/R77c4onwIGI/AAAAAAAABr4/EVZiWDcjjT4/s400/british_troops_enter_new_york_1776.jpg
British troops marching in New York 1776
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/revolutionary-war/colonies/new-york-fire-1776.jpg
Great fire of New York 1776 (which will be featured in the game).
http://cache2.artprintimages.com/lrg/13/1345/FQ4S000Z.jpg
British troops disembarking at New York.
http://milliganfamily.org/images/NewYorkCity%20warfe%201700s.jpg
New York Warf 1700s
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/4048/PreviewComp/SuperStock_4048-1773.jpg
Wall Street, New York 1773
Now will people stop saying there are no f**king buildings to climb about on? Please.
Windowlicker79 on 3 Mar '12 said:
Also for people saying America has no history, just take a look at this idiots guide to American history.
It starts in 1001 when Leif Ericson became the first European to land in North America.
teddington on 3 Mar '12 said:
assassins creed and skyrims love child
this is looking toma-HAWT
steve w on 3 Mar '12 said:
Not Connor I hate Connor has a name Connor is a surname not a first name.
daddisulta on 3 Mar '12 said:
Touché.. Than cross that out the list.. I still like the idea though
Multiplayerking on 3 Mar '12 said:
Of course all English are evil!
woodins on 3 Mar '12 said:
Don't blame them for pushing in a new direction, they peaked with Brotherhood (best one so far in my opinion), all reports are that Revelations wasn't anything significantly different - I have still got Revelations wrapped in a box, but been too busy with Skyrim and now ME3 is just round the corner, I have relegated it to "summer drought" gaming.
So Assassins Creed meets Red Dead? Fair enough. Could be a breath of fresh air the series needs, and if it fails? Meh, they can just go back to the classic rooftop parkour that was so 2008 and the French are still so obsessed with. I do want to see some kind of resolution for Desmond, or at least play a game with him as the main character (or really drag it out and have a bloke in a tin foil jump suit playing him on a flying saucers' animus lol) if this franchise is going to be dragged out as far as it will go.
Absolutely love the "not all English are evil"qualifying statement from a French-Canadian developer. I get the feeling we are in for a "Mel Gibson" rendition of historical events. I honestly don't mind. I think of the sheer number of British actors over the years who have been able to make a living in TV/film/games/animation out of North America's shallow interpretation of its brief history and I smile. Besides, playing the villain is cool. For all the bad things we are supposed to feel guilty about, at least we don't have the holocaust hanging over our necks.
verynaughtyboy on 3 Mar '12 said:
Thanks to you Windowlicker! Femmefatale made another stupid and asinine comment on another AC3 story and I was really annoyed by the level of ignorance and judging a product we know very little about. I wrote a post in reply on this topic but didn't post it because it sounded too angry.
Glad you took up the cause and thanks for your work - cool pics!
humanhand on 3 Mar '12 said:
Turning from skeptic to possible believer now. If this keeps up I might actually pick up Revelations just to get back in to things.
ErickelAwesome1 on 3 Mar '12 said:
I hope you can aim in this game unlike AC2, Brotherhood, or Revelations where you can only shoot straight forward or lock on the target.
Windowlicker79 on 3 Mar '12 said:
Thanks! I just had to say something because there are too many people saying America basically didn't have buildings or towns or cities in the late 1700s , which is just wrong!
Plus they've got plenty of history. Admittedly not as much as Europe or the Far East, but more than enough to make a game of.
I know I'm very excited to see what they come up with. There was only so long that Assassin's Creed could continue with the same format.
verynaughtyboy on 3 Mar '12 said:
When the rumour of an American setting first began circulating I actually wasn't too keen, I had my heart set on a Victorian London setting. However, having given it some thought and having read the information that has been released, I am quite excited by the possibilities and I think that the location makes a lot of sense in terms of the story arc and opens up the possibility for a major evolution within the series.
Now I just have to finish Brotherhood and Revelations!
P.S. The fact that so many key American historical figures have been Masons has got to contribute to the unfolding plot!
Down with robots on 3 Mar '12 said:
Should have been Victorian London. I can't think of a more tailored era, location and world relevance for AC3.
verynaughtyboy on 3 Mar '12 said:
The huge problem that Ubisoft has is that people like us have been developing our own ideas of how the plot will develop since we played the first game. It's the same problem that George Lucas had with Star Wars Episode 1 before he'd even made it; it was never going to be as good as I had been imagining for the previous 20+ years.
The thing is though that Ubisoft know where they are taking the story and how it will develop so I'm happy to go along where ever they take me!
Blessgod19 on 4 Mar '12 said:
Okay, can somebody explain one minor thing to me please?
What the heck do they mean with "They want you to think of it as an Assassin's Creed 3.5?"
Windowlicker79 on 4 Mar '12 said:
I'd imagine its something to do with the fact they want you to see it as more than just a sequel.
gmcb007 on 4 Mar '12 said:
That they'll probably milk it like they did with AC2.
boonattack on 4 Mar '12 said:
Conner the assassin in the ever so exciting new york. Doesn't it just make you want this game. I'm out.
Windowlicker79 on 4 Mar '12 said:
Oh dear. Looks like we've got another simpleton dismissing this game without knowing anything about it, or the American revolution, the battle of Long Island, the great fire of New York, the declaration of independence, the battle of Saratoga, not to mention the fact that the game also takes place in Boston, where there was the Boston massacre, the Boston tea party, the siege of Boston, the battle of Bunker Hill, the battle of Lexington, The battle of Concord, all which took place in the time frame that the game is set..... do I really need to go on?
They chose this location and time period for a reason.
boonattack on 4 Mar '12 said:
First off, I know all about the american revolution as it was one of the many subjects I had to do in high school history class - along with 'the history of medicine' it was the least interesting subject we had to do. Not that I'm saying it isn't interesting, there's been a multitude of american films and TV shows that have proved that - but there lies my problem with it. I've seen it already.
The reason I loved the first 2 games was the settings, they appealed to me. As did brotherhood and revelations, although they both fell short on the enjoyment factor as it felt like I was still playing AC2. America does not appeal to me, not today and not in its past. I said when the speculation first started surfacing that anywhere but America, China or Japan would be fine and unfortunately for me, and I would assume many others who aren't interested in American history, they chose the worst of the bunch.
Victorian England was my pick, simply for the fact its criminally underused in both game and film, and IMO would have suited Assassins Creed perfectly. Although, there is a chance that may still happen due to this being set earlier.
Each to their own I guess. I'm still out.
Windowlicker79 on 5 Mar '12 said:
This game is set between 1753 and 1783. Queen Victoria wasn't even born until 36 years after that. So no, it won't feature Victorian London.
Even if they did set it in Victorian London, what major historical events would have taken place which could be integrated into a video game? Jack the Ripper was doing his thing but a few dead prostitutes doesn't make a good Assassin's Creed game.
Its "underused" in media simply because there wasn't much of any interest that happened back then. There was a big increase in trade, the Police force was formed and trains got very popular. That's about it though.
richomack360 on 5 Mar '12 said:
Thousand on screen ? Yeah, will believe that when I see it.....
Just like Halo Reach with their "hundreds" on screen boast.....
Yellow6 on 5 Mar '12 said:
Give or take the spelling (shakespeare spelled his own name in more than one way) it predates the Doomsday book and is still popular today....so what was your point?
Yellow6 on 5 Mar '12 said:
Hate it or not it is a first name and it's the first name that the surname is derived from.
Anderson - Son of Anders.
Svenson - Son of Sven
MacDonald - Son of Donald
MacGregor - Son of Gregor
In Irish O' is "Grandson of" but it is the same idea....it means there was a first name before a surname.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 5 Mar '12 said:
Damn man you beat me to it. Just to add one point though. Desmond is American. He's also the main hero of the series. Like it or hate it. He is.
Also as the previous poster stated this will be set in a world before the america we all love to hate even existed. considering the screen shots of what looks like Connor attacking George Washington and the opening of the game being set around colonists destroying his village i have a feeling that this game will p**s off a lot of americans by showing a less black and white version of the war of independance. LEts, jut put it this way. The British weren't half as tyrannical as the Amaericans made them out to be and the american indians played a much larger in it role than is generally aluded to in popular culture.
Moribundman on 5 Mar '12 said:
Um given the timeline, the fact that Charles Lee was an educated British officer who turned his back on the crown after the Seven Years/French & Indian War and bowed out of the running to lead the revolution in America in favour of Washington, might I humbly suggest he is Connor's illegitimate Dad and an Assassin who brings over the traditions of the order which Connor only turns to after the injustice perpetrated against his people?
Moribundman on 5 Mar '12 said:
The American Revolution was essentially a Civil War, albeit one between paternalistic imperialists with little connection to the country and a fast growing colonial population with little connection to the motherland.
In short - England fought a war against the French (the seven years war, what the Americans call the French and Indian war). This essentially won Canada for the Brits as well as their existing colonies in North America but to pay the war debts the crown imposed exceptionally high taxes on the colonists. These taxes were not subject to the checks and balances of taxes in Britain where (some) people had a right to vote them down and even strong supporters of the crown were p**sed off by being taxed such an exorbitant amount. The government in the UK had an out of sight out of mind attitude to this unrest until "no taxation without representation" led to unrest and revolt (think the poll tax riots times 1000 with fewer police).
So Britain thought it was working in the colonists interests, and they were ungrateful in not paying their taxes to be saved from the French, and the colonists just wanted to get on with things and many of them didn't care about the French. So the "tyrannical" King, and the "ingrate" colonists are oversimplified and magnified through the looking glass of history.
Look at it though - the British crown should have just sucked in its ample gut and taken the loss from the seven years war, because it ended up funding a vastly more costly and protracted conflict and losing half of its territory in North America.
GAME could learn from this. If the cost of buying stock of Mass Effect 3 = the war debt of the seven years war, then EA have just thrown the Boston Tea Party, the revolution is coming and by the time AC3 is out we'll be marching down to the United States of Gamestop come October.
Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. Here endeth the lesson.
Yellow6 on 5 Mar '12 said:
Alternatively....
The American war of Independence was fought so that a bunch of super-rich, white, slave owning, males could avoid paying their legal taxes?
MPH on 5 Mar '12 said:
I sure hope none of the characters that attempt to pronounce his native American name have a stutter.
Moribundman on 5 Mar '12 said:
You won't hear me disagreeing with that take on it, but I do think sometimes we Brits sneer at the Americans for charicaturing the goodie/baddie dynamic as we plod along doing exactly the same thing from the other side...
Many native Brits at the time were also super-rich white slave owners too... And Benjamin Franklin lived in London for 18 years and was a very big fan of the British Empire (to the point where he almost chose to move here and live in London on a permanent basis). He only went back there and started his "seditious acts" as an older man after witnessing the unbelievable disconnect between the British super rich whites and the colonial super rich whites!
Moribundman on 5 Mar '12 said:
Cf. Mass Effect 3s protagonist Shepard (pronounced Co-man-der-gay-doo).
Anthony ROOK on 5 Mar '12 said:
Good idea, then you can make American history by inventing the first hotdog
Anthony ROOK on 5 Mar '12 said:
No team but the creed. Besides his father is British, So he's clearly not seeking daddy's approval.
Anthony ROOK on 5 Mar '12 said:
Is'nt Desmond american? And he said he lived in a small town called "the farm" it's very NA.
Deathbound4 on 5 Mar '12 said:
I do think the native american name was necessary. From Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad and Ezio Auditore da Firenze to Connor would seem like a lapse in creativity.
Anthony ROOK on 5 Mar '12 said:
5 things I'm looking for in this game…
. And as for the gun, nothing is more anoying than braking into the enamys bace, steling their artifact getting half way to your boarder and then... 'do do de' BANG!! takes you from half way across the map and gets (I'm not lying) 1250 points for shooting me, D##k.
1 better hand to hand combat (like the ACR trailer) it won't need to be too clever, just a kill streak but instead of driving your blade into them your making them use theirs.
2 horses (WITH GALOP) the horse in ACB was a big let down.
3 better control over the assassin guild, we already have a weapon wheel how about a order wheel.
stealth mode, battle mode, arrow storm, give back up, retreat, just a few examples. And the assassins only leave when the ‘retreat’ order is used and if they are still on the screen ‘give back up’ makes the present ones come back. If ubisoft can make it so you can give individual assassins different orders, awesome!!
4 in multiplayer GET RID OF THE GUN AND AS SPECIALLY HACK AND TELEPORT. Not only is it annoying it doesn’t fit with the story Abstergo is trying to make perfect assassins, so why are they going to get their agents dependent on something they cant use out side the annumis, "oh no Desmond is getting away, don't worry guys I'll just tele... ho crap, ho wait I killed nine guys so I can hack... no I can't, s##t" so get rid of it
5 answers!! I want answers, its 2012 the disaster is just around the corner and Desmond hasn’t found a single temple. If he doesn’t get a move on, we are F###ed. And I didn’t play 4 games (soon to be 5) just for the world to blow up!
TheCrimsonFenix on 5 Mar '12 said:
Don't forget to put the game on your Christmas list.
Yellow6 on 6 Mar '12 said:
His was a case of "if you can't join them, beat them".
Forau_ on 6 Mar '12 said:
Am I the only one being slightly concerned about the new installment in the franchise. One thing to chose a new hero/protagonist/whatever, but considering their main objective (before the release of this info) was to conclude the story line about Desmond and the fact the original installments had an apocalyptic prediction for 2012....... there seems to be surpringly (or unsurprisingly given Brotherhood/Revelations) little information about the storyline concerning desmond. Are only trying to "wow" us into purchasing yet another stupid installment by adding "new fighting systems" and "amazing looking faces".... ubisoft, f**k off, and continue the story like it was originally meant to. Afterwards you can do all the silly spinoffs you want.
Anthony ROOK on 6 Mar '12 said:
Yes I'll get on that
masterc155 on 7 Mar '12 said:
Finnally! A setting a know a lot about! I am also happy it takes part in Massachusetts and New York! I am glad for the change in setting, and this looks awesome! I think this will attact the previous fans of AC that left during Brotherhood and Revelation . I for one have stayed with the series, and i will not every give up on the series! I will miss the big buildings
, BUT WE DO HAVE TREES. Im gonna feel like a ninja jumping from tree to tree 
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piye on 7 Mar '12 said:
I wonder if either free or enslaved Africans play any role in this game, or are we going to ignore their contributions?
GoConn3r on 9 Mar '12 said:
AC3, regardless of how “bad” or “unsatisfying” people think it will be, is going to be amazing, at least to some degree (however small), just because it is Assassin’s Creed. I’m not saying it’s going to be great, or mind-blowing, but as an Assassin’s Creed game, it will definitely be cool. There is the possibility the fans may not be 100% satisfied with it; it might not live up to expectations (but what expectations can someone have of a game that will be very different from its predecessors?). But since this game has been in development for 3 years, I believe that nearly every fan will be somewhat satisfied, to some extent (however short), because it is Assassin’s Creed, after all. I hope people can understand what I am trying to say; of course, there is always the possibility that they could completely screw it up and ruin what might have been what a fan of the franchise’s would call a satisfying success. But, chances greatly are, fans will be happy about it. If people really don’t like some of the things that will probably be changed, like the combat or whatever else familiar that will be missing, all they have to do is stop whining and go back to playing Brotherhood or whichever of the previous games they prefer.
Also, people, stop complaining about who’s killing who and what offends you-these are killing games, a lot of people die, please stop complaining-every country in the world has lost soldiers and/or civilians in wars, battles, and revolutions, however worldly, national, or civil. Everybody has grudges, but let it go long enough to play-or ignore-some video games; I kind of mean this in a way similar to the way some people-like Chris Rock-tell black jokes, and says “negro” in the offensive way (just so everyone knows, I am completely anti-racist-it’s horrible what has happened in the past, and what still continues nowadays-but that’s exactly that-in the past-and most people have learned their lesson that every man and woman has rights no matter what-so everybody just needs to forgive or at least forget, and just focus on the fricking future). If people don’t like the way Chris Rock talks, just don’t watch the fricking show!!! If people don’t like who’s dying in a video game, don’t play the damn game!!!
And besides, it goes like this-the British on one side, Americans on the other; Assassins directly in between yet intermixed, while fighting the Templars (also directly in between, not leaning to either side, yet intermixed). It is just a subtle war underneath another not-so-subtle war. The Assassins-vs.-Templars war lies underneath the American Revolutionary war; the war is mainly a part of the setting. So, no, the British are NOT the bad guys throughout the game, they’re just Templars wearing British clothes. So people, you need to stop complaining about a game you haven’t even played yet. Yes, we have a general idea of what the game will be like, but we don’t know for sure how it’ll play. I could probably add a lot more stuff, but I think this is enough for how hahaha :p
GoConn3r on 9 Mar '12 said:
Yes dude, I definitely agree with you-I think these ideas are genius-the "order wheel" or something like that sounds amazing, great thinking-and the hack n teleport needs to be gone-and gun hahaha great reasonings:)
Yellow6 on 11 Mar '12 said:
At the time there was no such thing as "American".
Of course there were "native Americans" but not "White Americans" as we know them today.
They tended to think of themsleves as ~Dutch, English, Scottish, Irish, French, Spanish.
Even the leaders of the Revolution were British and "initially" wanted a "tax-break" as opposed to full autonomy.
Anyone in the Americas at that time of French descent was not an "American", but either out for themselves or the glorious Republic (France)!
Do not forget the US joined militarily as Allies with Napoleon against Britain.
They backed a military Emporor/tyrant against a democratically appointed government....
....And has much changed today?
Don't get me wrong, I love the Yanks and do not dispute their policies, I just think you should call a spade a spade and admit what happened.
rkjpierce on 12 Mar '12 said:
How moronic can you get? Have you ever studied American history? Then don't make statements you know nothing about. America is full of history, and has some of the smartest scientists and doctors. As far as the game, can't wait for the release. It changes the story line and gets rid of the ability of scaling roof tops. However it does have some hints of GTA and RDR. If that is the case then i can't freakin wait
rkjpierce on 12 Mar '12 said:
Not sure where you are from, but if you live here and don't like America, American History, or what this country stands for then GET THE F??CK OUT!!!!!!!! People like you make me sick. The principles and ideas in this country are what used to make it great. We as a country have gotten away from that because of indoctrination in schools and ignorant media and people. As for me this game excites me more than any of the previous instalments.
Anthony ROOK on 12 Mar '12 said:
Mate you have to get into it a bit more, I mean just saying "as for me this game excites me more than any of the previous ." that boonattack is just going to think "Look an other American gloating about his ho so grate country"
. But assassins creed isn't supposed to be taking that way, all you should be is grateful that your country is choosing to host such a grate game. Just go, complete the game in less than 24 hours, get bored, then become a one man army and take down a thousand men by your self, feel like the big man, then go online and get f###ed by a level 20 from 5 yards with a gun 
WTF!!!
I don't really care about it, that isn't what this form is about me and every one else is here to talk about assassins creed 3 NOT country rivalry. If the assassin kills Americans, big deal. If the assassin kills the british, big deal. The Jewish didn't care about Altair in jerusalem, the it's Italians didn't care about Ezio even though after brotherhood I bloody hell did
nb_nmare2 on 13 Mar '12 said:
Except the hero of this game isn't American, the developers of this game aren't American, and the publishers of this game aren't American.
boonattack on 14 Mar '12 said:
Great comment mate. Actually for your information, I don't like America, American History or what the country stands for and I'm English - so no I wont be getting the f??ck out.
If this game excites you more than AC2 or the original did then it just shows how biased you Americans are when it comes to anything involving your 'oh so great' country.
BonaDea on 20 May '12 said:
First of all, let me just say that I'm not writing off AC3. I'll still give it a go because I am a big fan of the assassin's franchise. But (and it's a BIG but) I'm not at all convinced that the game ever needed to be set in America, let alone the American revolution. A few posters have mentioned the overbearingly patriotic American attitude. After all they are the heroes. They are the only ones who could ever possibly save the world. One of the main things I loved about the AC games was the history. The war between the Assassins and Templars just seemed to fit perfectly into the chosen eras (Medieval crusades and Renaissance). But now, I have absolutely no idea how they're going to fit the Templars into the American war of independence without it being completely laughable. The better choice by far, would have been Victorian England. With it's Templar associated Masons and the huge population of prostitutes and pickpockets that roamed the streets. Not to mention the industrial revolution and use of advanced weapons and machinery. And as for famous Historical figures - well you don't get much more infamous than Jack the Ripper and Queen Victoria. In fact there is no shortage of notable characters in the Victorian era. Charles Dickens, Florence Nightingale, Robert Peel (creator of the police force) and Charles Darwin to name just a few.
Not only would the game be a historian's dream, but it would be cinematically amazing. With the Victorian smog over the buildings and the fashion, the bustling streets and increasing traffic on the roads. Horses, carts, merchants, thieves, nobles and peasants. Public hangings and overcrowded prisons, injustice and poverty everywhere. Cruel workhouses and debtors prisons. Disease and sickness picking off the lower classes. Plenty of dark alleyways and sidestreets. Murky canals, bustling dockyards and of course the Thames river. The skyline would be full of impressive buildings like Big Ben, The Tower of London, Westminster Abbey, London Bridge, St Paul's Cathedral, Tower Bridge and Shakespeare's Globe Theatre.
I know a lot of people are looking forward to the new assassin with his new skills, landscape and pretty much everything else. And sure, hunting animals and climbing trees might be fun, but it doesn't really scream Assassin. To me the essence of Assassin's creed is big city scapes and a cloaked figure lurking in the shadows of tall buildings.
AC4 = VICTORIAN ENGLAND. Or I might start assassinating people myself. :p