The Rumble Pak was one of the N64's many great innovations, accentuating in-game crashes, bumps and explosions by shaking the controller.
But when N64 games arrive on the Virtual Console retro downloads system on Wii, they'll lack forcefeedback support, Nintendo has confirmed to CVG in a Q&A regarding the Virtual Console.
This might be due to the lack of a rumble feature in the Classic Controller, which will be the primary controller for playing Virtual Console games on Wii. But with the option to play VC games with a GameCube controller, which does feature a rumble motor, we had hoped that games would retain their pad-shaking features.
To put rest to the mysteries regarding the Virtual Console, CVG has put questions asked by it's readers to Nintendo, so check back soon to see the full Q&A, with some interesting results...
Personally I couldn't care less for rumble. Doesn't really enhance my gaming experience anyway. Oooh look I'm being shot in the face and my hands shook, so realistic.
Besides doesn't it speed up the onset of arthritis? Yay.
Obviously Nintendo still think rumble is good that's why they put it in the Wii-mote.
Okay the classic controller hasnt got rumble (why?) But just yesterday i bought a gamecube pad specifically to get rumble on certain N64/gamecube games.
But why leave it out from games that had it there originally?
Why? I feel like canceling my pre-order because of this.
Sorry to say but goldeneye will NOT be released on the nintendo as microsoft hold the rare rights for games ------------also what i dnt understand is why the wii just doesnt release a like n64 controller with in rumble pack so you can play all the classic games with the consoles controller
this is just sheer lazyness i mean if they say they cant do it for "technical reasons" then thats bull$hit because even ROMS and EMU's have the capability of rumble. tsk tsk ninty!
I can't believe there are still jerks who don't get the wii. No HD? Who cares? I can still see. No prgressive scan? Panic! Have to use gamecube pads for gamecube games? Disaster! All these things are gimmicks (including backwards compatibility) and if you can't live without you should be out working earning money cos that ps3(or4?-so many ps's) isn't going to buy itself.
Obviously Nintendo still think rumble is good that's why they put it in the Wii-mote.
Okay the classic controller hasnt got rumble (why?) But just yesterday i bought a gamecube pad specifically to get rumble on certain N64/gamecube games.
But why leave it out from games that had it there originally?
Why? I feel like canceling my pre-order because of this.
That's a bit drastic, isn't it? You'll miss out on playing Wii, and all the games on it (including what is sure to be the best Zelda ever!), just because the retro games you've probably already played will lack a non-essential rumble feature?
I hardly even notice force feedback anymore, it's been around so long. I'm disappointed too, but it's the least of what Wii offers (or, in this case, doesn't).
its amazing how people despise the smallest things!
no rumble for ps3, power brick for 360, a number of small and insignificate limitations for wii.
if you are that annoyed that this article has made you change your mind on getting a wii, then maybe your better off downloading a free emulator which is essentially the same as this instead....
No VC games for me as long as the regional price differences for these "virtual downloads" are in effect ,and this recent announcement makes no sense what so ever, i could understand if this had came from the sony camp but surely emmersion isn't involved in this decision ?
this is just sheer lazyness i mean if they say they cant do it for "technical reasons" then thats bull$hit because even ROMS and EMU's have the capability of rumble. tsk tsk ninty!
Here here. If guys can create emulators in their bedrooms which are able to recreate a rumble feature why can't a large corporation do it. My playstation controller's rumble works with N64 roms ! Pure laziness
I can't believe there are still jerks who don't get the wii. No HD? Who cares? I can still see. No prgressive scan? Panic! Have to use gamecube pads for gamecube games? Disaster! All these things are gimmicks (including backwards compatibility) and if you can't live without you should be out working earning money cos that ps3(or4?-so many ps's) isn't going to buy itself.
Call me a jerk if you will, but I think Nintendo have been incredibly cynical about the whole European release.
First of all, they jack the European price up an outrageous amount from the American/Japanese pricepoints!
Now they remove rumble from old Nintendo64 games.
The thing that p**ses me off the most though is the lack of progressive scan support- they actually had to take that out- as the Jap/American Wii has it.
I don't know about anyone else, but my main gaming TV is a 26" LCD and composite/scart feeds look s**t in comparison to component feeds. Even in 480p, component looks a lot sharper and brighter... why the hell did they do this?
There was no reason not to include multiAV support in the European Wii, especially as we are paying a hell of a lot more for the privilege of owning one.
I know in the last generation of consoles, progressive scan was only supported in other territories, but for Christ's sake this is 2006 and CRT is virtually extinct on the high street.
Just face facts... Nintendo couldn't care less about the European market. If they did, they'd respect us a little bit more.
Sorry to say but goldeneye will NOT be released on the nintendo as microsoft hold the rare rights for games
Erm, where did you get this info
I know its unlikely, but I doubt its impossible. When questionsed about the VC in the past, Rare have said they are looking into possibilities, but nothing has been decided.
I know there are a lot of lew issues to overcome, but Im sure Nintendo would want them to release some classic Snes/N64 games and could possibly offer them a cash incentive to do so.
There is no such thing as never.. only how much will it cost.
If Nintendo want it bad enough, they will have to persued Microsoft to allow it.
Sorry to say but goldeneye will NOT be released on the nintendo as microsoft hold the rare rights for games
Erm, where did you get this info
I know its unlikely, but I doubt its impossible. When questionsed about the VC in the past, Rare have said they are looking into possibilities, but nothing has been decided.
I know there are a lot of lew issues to overcome, but Im sure Nintendo would want them to release some classic Snes/N64 games and could possibly offer them a cash incentive to do so.
There is no such thing as never.. only how much will it cost.
If Nintendo want it bad enough, they will have to persued Microsoft to allow it.
Didnt CVG report recently that Donkey Kong Country (SNES) would be released for the VC? This is a Rare developed game, so i dont see why Goldeneye could not be released if this were.
It seems as if every day brings more limitations with the Wii.
No High Definition modes (720p or 1080p).
so what? HD doesn't apply to most people and 480p is plenty good enough for the level of GFX in the games
To play Gamecube games, you will have to use a wired Gamecube pad and Gamecube memory cards.
You can use wavebirds
You won't be able to play any imported games.
Untill someone works out a way around it, just like they did with the cube
You won't be able to buy VC games that weren't originally released in your region.
WRONG, europe is getting TurboGrafix/PC Engine games. It's entirely up to the distributor of the original game as to if we will get games from other regions. The whole VC is a licensing minefield with many elements requiring great discussions with the original creators over ownership and distribution issues. The problem is a lot of you are a bit to narrow minded to understand that everything isn't quite as black and white as you wish. I wouldn't rule anything out, just like how NEC seems to have given the nod for PC Engine games to get released over here. Some publishers will be more receptive than others to the concept
The Mega Drive/Genesis games cost £5 each for the VC, yet Sega are releasing 27 of these games on a disc for PS2/PSP owners for £17.
Then get them for the ps2/psp and stop moaning. In essence we could get free roms but oh well, life goes on.
No progressive scan support for the PAL Wii.
Wrong again, component cable is coming out in europe and the system is capable of prog scan. Nintendo have confirmed this through numerous sources
The issue with Goldeneye on the VC had little to do with Microsoft's ownership of rare and more to do with licensing over the 007/Goldeneye property.
Yes rare created the game, but based on properties owned by MGM/Eon Pictures... Therefore it would ultimatly be Eon's choice wether the game could be released via the VC. Microsoft has little to no call on the matter.
Likewise with the Donkey Kong Country games... Rare created the game for Nintendo based on their propery (DK). Therefore Nintendo owns the rights to publishing the code and all associated elements.
Perfect Dark and Banjo Kazooie were Rare created properties, hence why Microsoft (following the purchase of the studio) now owns the rights to the characters and elements. Time will tell wether Microsoft will allow games like Perfect Dark and Banjo Kazooie/Tooie to come out on the VC. I guess there is a chance but there could be some muddle over asset ownership due to the fact that Rare was acting as a 2nd party developer at the time. Time will tell.
I dispise all these knee jerk moaners just because one thing isn't 100% they wave their arms around screaming 'im canceling my preorder' and such and such... fine do it, let somone less cynical enjoy the games and the VC service for what it is.
Still sad that owners of original carts cant get some kind of discount for downloading the same game from VC. Perhaps they could input the serial number for a discount?
The lack of rumble is disappointing, especially since Nintendo made a reasonable fuss over it in major titles including Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Guess that means the Stone of Agony will be utterly useless in that game then.
Wow, featured comment. I feel special, well my mummy always said I was
Still could do with a load of the VC questions in the other thread being answered, please CVG?
Coming up, my friend. All your questions went to Nintendo. Your answers - or the ones we could get answers for - will go up on Sunday (12th) at around mid-day.
where does this nonsence come from that the Wii wont have progressive scan in Europe. The UK is getting the component cable ive seen the UK box on this very site. Ive ordered one from play.com as well for £14.99(its gone up to £16.99 but they will charge me the price it was when i ordered it). The component cable provides progressive scan. Lets end this rumour now. Here is another rumor im getting rid of as well about Wii VC and GC pads.
http://wii.nintendo.com/virtualconsole.jsp
Now Nintendo UK surely cant remove that from the UK Wii it would be more trouble than its worth.
Here is another rumor im getting rid of as well about Wii VC and GC pads.
http://wii.nintendo.com/virtualconsole.jsp
Thats the thing. That link shows that the GC conroller can be used to play VC games (NES, SNES, N64 at least). Yet we hear contradicting reports from Nintendo themselves that you cannot use the GC contoller for playing VC games.
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When was this annoucned?! First I've heard of this.
