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Problems with PS3 backwards-compatibility

Gran Turismo 4 and Tekken 5 among the titles to experience problems on PS3
Despite the inclusion of PS2 inside the PS3 - to make it as close to 100 percent backwards compatible as possible - problems have still been reported with a number of titles.

Sony has put up a list of the faulty games here (Japanese), with details of what goes wrong for each one.

GT4, Tekken 5, Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams, Devil May Cry and Silent Hill 2 are some of the bigger games to experience problems, although the list will shrink as Sony releases updates for the PS3 that fix any reported issues.

This doesn't come as a complete surprise - the PS2 experienced similar problems with a few PSone titles. Look on the bright side - PS3 owners are still far better off in the backwards compatibility stakes than 360 gamers, who have to wait for the limiting patch-based system to play Xbox games on their 360.

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and let the backlash begin...

im sure it will get sorted via future updates to the OS tho Wink
seedaripper on 13 Nov '06
its not that bad, BC is something people are always desperate for but rarely use.

PS2 had the same problem, and for all the big game problems expect a patch to sort that out soon i would think.
ArchFlameTera on 13 Nov '06
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humorguy on 13 Nov '06


I have said it many times: Whether it's X-Box, Playstation, Nintendo, PC gaming or video gaming in general, 2007 is going to be a make-or-break year!

Yeah id say so. I think once the other 2 consoles come out 360 sales will slow down quite a bit, theyll probably sell more this time around but not a great deal more. Would say that its between PS and Wii, especially because of the price difference.
ArchFlameTera on 13 Nov '06
hmm. just hope that by the time i get a PS3 and if tekken 6 isn't out i can play my tekken 5. need my weekly annihilation of all opponents!!
Fox on 13 Nov '06
Whilst it's bad news that the PS3 BC isn't perfect at least it's not as bad as the 360 BC.
DarthMorbus on 13 Nov '06
Hopefully the Wii's backward compatibility will be 100% for GameCube games.
Doctor_Hades on 13 Nov '06
Normally I will laugh heartily at Sony's misfortune.
Like this: "Ah hahah hahaha ha ha"

However, this time I wont.
Fair play to them for getting pretty much total compatibility with not one but two previous machines into the PS3.

Ok so there are problems, but hey, over 2/3 of the 50+ games in my original Xbox collection have been gathering dust since December 2nd 2005.
I'm still waiting for patches I'll probably never see.

This is one area where Sony knows what they are doing.
falloutwarchief on 13 Nov '06
Official: Sony don't know what they're doing.
Wozzakl on 13 Nov '06
360 BC.

That looked to me like a subtle pun that the 360's backwards compatability is infact on terms with the archaic inventions of 360 BC.
deadmartyr on 13 Nov '06
It would come as a suprise if PS3 forces 360 sales to slow as much as you think. The 360 now has some awesome titles out for Christmas, Gears of War being one of them. While PS3 has a pretty poor initial line up. By the time sales slow for 360 MS will have the option to lower the price which will maintain sales. Sony will not have that option and this on top of low numbers available for the coming months will damage Sony. The backwards compatability will not, but the fact that GT4 doesn't run seems odd, it being a Sony title and all you would have thought they would have tested their own top titles.
bazzatuk on 13 Nov '06
It would come as a suprise if PS3 forces 360 sales to slow as much as you think. The 360 now has some awesome titles out for Christmas, Gears of War being one of them. While PS3 has a pretty poor initial line up. By the time sales slow for 360 MS will have the option to lower the price which will maintain sales. Sony will not have that option and this on top of low numbers available for the coming months will damage Sony. The backwards compatability will not, but the fact that GT4 doesn't run seems odd, it being a Sony title and all you would have thought they would have tested their own top titles.

i dont think itll happen overnight, im talking over the next 6-12months.
ArchFlameTera on 13 Nov '06
This isnt that bad,

All new consoles are boasting backwards compatibility, but all ore messing it up.

Xbox360, a year on, and only a few games playable

Wii, the need to buy a million controllers (and only able to use a cabled controller on GC games)so you can play all games

PS3, a few games not compatible..... yet.

Over all, I think PS3 wins the backwards compatibility race (excluding Virtual Consoles)

Im no fan of Sony, but credit is given where credit is due
nuggit3000 on 13 Nov '06
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humorguy on 13 Nov '06
PC's win the backward compatibility test now we have VM Sound and DOSBox for XP and we have emulators for Spectrum 48k, Commodore 64, The BBC computer, Atari 2600 800 and ST, Commodore Amiga, Playstation One and every console prior to the Playstation as well!
And yet I can't get the PC version of FF8 to run on this PC, I have to take out an 64 Mb RAm laptop to play it.
Joni_Philips on 13 Nov '06
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humorguy on 13 Nov '06
Whilst it's bad news that the PS3 BC isn't perfect at least it's not as bad as the 360 BC.

Agreed.

I'm suprised MS got away with boasting about BC on the 360 considering how poor it is.

I dont think MS is even working on BC anymore. Sure they say they still are but I think they have quietly axed it and hope no one asks about BC again. Rolling Eyes
ramsingh1 on 14 Nov '06
I've never really seen the point of BC.

If I wanted to play an old game (Why? I've got new games Laughing ) I'd just use the correct console.

<digs out Atari 2600 for some Millipede action>
flenser_ on 14 Nov '06
And yet I can't get the PC version of FF8 to run on this PC, I have to take out an 64 Mb RAm laptop to play it.

Joni, I don't know if you've tried it yet, but there is at least one patch available for FF8 on PC.

I think it's mainly to fix compatibility with NVidia cards (which I no longer use - ATi FTW!) as far as I remember so that could be it.
Even if you aren't using an nVidia card there are possibly more XP fixes in there.
Worth a shot anyway if you haven't tried it already.
falloutwarchief on 14 Nov '06
This is the outcome of the dangerous and horrible precedent that's come about with console gaming recently. The ability to deliver online patches means that nothing will ever be right first time anymore because it doesn't need to be. This is why the overall quality of console gaming (as in bugs) is dropping rapidly.

Consoles, up to recently, had to be right first time. There was no going back. This counts for hardware and software.

Nowadays, you have the soft-upgrade option. So they can afford to get things wrong first time and patch it in a few weeks. It's disgusting. Wounds me as a programmer with a sense of honour.
tenshi_a on 14 Nov '06
i read a post on joystiq with a flash version of donkey kong running on a ps3 via its browser(im sure emulators will come with time)...surley thats king of BC Wink
seedaripper on 14 Nov '06
This is the outcome of the dangerous and horrible precedent that's come about with console gaming recently. The ability to deliver online patches means that nothing will ever be right first time anymore because it doesn't need to be. This is why the overall quality of console gaming (as in bugs) is dropping rapidly.

Consoles, up to recently, had to be right first time. There was no going back. This counts for hardware and software.

Nowadays, you have the soft-upgrade option. So they can afford to get things wrong first time and patch it in a few weeks. It's disgusting. Wounds me as a programmer with a sense of honour.

PS2 had problems with BC and that never got fixed! I agree that it some instances it seems like any problems that occur are just given the old "we'll send a patch out" and nothing really happens. But in this case its a good thing
ArchFlameTera on 14 Nov '06
Backwards compatibility is something I'm looking forward to. It'll be nice to be able to box up the old PS2 and Cube to make room for the PS3 and Wii, and still be able to play all my old favourites. Sure new games are nice, but why neglect all the old ones as well. They cost you enough, so you may as well make use of them!

Pity I can't box up the XBox in the same way. Come on Microsoft, get your ass into gear and release more updates!

I seriously doubt Sony will be able to test every single PS1 and PS2 game to check for compatibility so some errors are bound to crop up. At least with the PS3 they can be fixed, unlike the PS2.
potnoodle1 on 14 Nov '06
There were far fewer PS1 games that don't work on a PS2 than there are PS2 games in the list (which they only started compiling a few days ago!) that don't work on a PS3. Plus they're far more mainstream games; the PS1 titles that don't work on a PS2 tended to be kind of obscure, but these PS2 games are top-sellers.

I reckon they decided this was a low priority, and shoved their inferior product out the door before it was ready, as it's somehow now acceptable to patch rather than release a decent fully-functioning product. It's shoddy.
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