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KOTOR MMO in development?

BioWare's online team tipped to be working on massively multiplayer Knights of the Old Republic console title
BioWare has formed a new online team to create a Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic massively multiplayer online game, EGM reports.

No further details were reported in the rumour section of the US magazine but we've taped our fingers crossed. KOTOR is one of our favourite Star Wars games ever and the thoughts of an online MMO is, frankly, too much to take in.

The magazine also reports on a few other BioWare-related rumours. The current PC-exclusive Dragon Age is coming to PS3 and the DS currently in development at the mega-studio looks to be from the Baldur's Gate franchise. They're all rumours at the moment but we'll keep you updated with any announcements.

If you missed Monday's shock news, CVG exclusively reported that the firm's highly anticipated Xbox 360 RPG Mass Effect has been pushed back to September. You can find more here.

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anything Bioware touches, will turn to gold.
strong though how theyre really pushed for time on Mass Effect, and there talking about a MMO KOTOR game? thay will take up a lot of time, plus we might have to pay Phantasy Star like money to play it. which I won't do!
however, Bioware totally rocks!
who says the 360 doesn't have RPGs?
Apollian24 on 25 Apr '07
Oooo!! Ooooo!! Ooooo!! Ooooo!! OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
G_Man_007 on 25 Apr '07
NOOOOOOOOO

Don't turn it into another pay monthly game.

Just make the next game in the series. The first two were brilliant.

I refuse to pay for a game, pay for live and then pay a monthly fee to play it.

This was a game I really wanted to hear about. If this story is true, I've just lost all interest.

Sad
SoulChimera on 25 Apr '07
I want KOTOR 3 singleplayer Exclamation


please..
shangala on 25 Apr '07
looking fwd to mo news on this one......could be a killer game
andyaubs on 25 Apr '07
I don't know why people are saying 'NO' to this??? If this is done right this could be the best MMO ever made! I am a huge fan of the KOTOR games and would love to see a KOTOR MMO. I am thinking a mix of WOW,Guild Wars and EVE online (gotta have space battles in it FFS) also kinda of off topic a little but i played number 2 before number one (Mistake i know) and am just about to finish number one now but am stuck on the last fight with Malak! any tips of how to beat his ass down? i only have 7 medi packs and 4 adv medi packs? please help Shocked
English_Crusader on 25 Apr '07
Blame World of Warcraft! Possibly the only game I'd get the 360 for gone in a puff fof smoke because of greed.
Lualua31 on 25 Apr '07
First of all, I think this news stinks. Smile I've read that article and it didn't convince me that it has any basis.

Secondly, if it would be only MMO then I'd say 'HELL NO! Evil or Very Mad'. If there were a singleplayer part, at least as good as the earlier games and an MMO side of the game, I'll say ok. But I want a singleplayer KOTOR 3! An MMO could never be as good as a SP RPG.
NecrosHUN on 25 Apr '07
I desperately hope this news isn't true. I loathe MMORPGs with a passion, and the thought of one of my favourite developers wasting their skills, time, and money on some POS on-line game when they could be making a proper RPG (i.e. KotOR 3, *SINGLE PLAYER ONLY*) instead is a highly unpleasant one.

So please Bio, don't be stupid. MMORPGs are the domain of developers who are too lazy/talentless to come up with good storyline ideas and write decent dialogue. We know you are more than capable of both, so there really is no need for this.
nb_nmare2 on 25 Apr '07
The sad thing about most MMORPGs is that they're just glorified co-op SP games (like NWN), but with lots of strangers running around. No one can really affect the world, however. There's so much untapped potential.

Say NO to MMO!
Mogs on 25 Apr '07
Love the KOTOR universe and if this was done properly but for PC aswell this would rock. Getting a bit bored of WOW. Even if it was a single player version as long as it was bioware that done it i would be over the moon!

Lets hope this is true Smile
Trevor_Compton on 25 Apr '07
I loved the KOTOR games but making it into a MMO would ruin it for me. I thought that the best part of the past games was interacting with the rest of your party. I would spend hours just listening to their stories and backgrounds. In a MMO whos in your party? A 10 year old who thinks hes so great and knows everything about the game.
Please keep it single player Bioware or atleast make it so that online is optional!
Derbachov on 25 Apr '07
NO! I liked the first two as they were... MMO's rarely have a decent story or anything like that... and if its pay montly i'll never by a title by bioware ever... Payin to play the game and online after buying it? It'll be worse than WoW...Ł9 A MONTH?! I WANT SINGLE PLAYER...ONLY!!!
Frogster8 on 25 Apr '07
Its true that most of the current mmorpgs tend to be quite shallow in game content, reyling instead on player interaction to satisfy gamers needs. But if anyone one can sort out this genre then Obsidian would be one of the two possible companys I would like to see do it (THQ the other one). The KOTOR games were excellent, and if Obsidian were able to transfer that kind of quality onto the online world then it would be a major coup.

And essentially there wouldnt be so much work involved as it would be an evolution rather than a game built from scratch, for me the UI, game and character mechanics were spot on in KOTOR 2 the skills systems and character development etc were and still are better than any other ive come across so far, with the possible exception of Fallout 2 which would be an equal.
Stev69 on 26 Apr '07
Something I've noticed is all the people saying no to this are most likely thinking this is a substitute for KotOR 3, it's not, this is a completely separate game, an online version of KotOR that will have hardly anything to do with the characters already in the KotOR games, KotOR 3 will still be made and by Obsidian, though it's not official yet it's not that hard to see that Obsidian think that SW: KotOR is a goldmine, SW KotOR Online will be different, the story is practicaly made by the player and will be just basically a revamped SWG, but in the KotOR era, where there are more Sith and more Jedi, so i say definitely yes, this is what i have wanted since i first played KotOR 1, and also the people who don't want this, quite simply put, "don't play it" duh.
Crowlis on 26 Apr '07
Even if this MMORPG isn't "instead of" KotOR 3, it will still use up time and resources that could have gone into developing at least one single player game instead.

Although I love KotOR, I would much rather have a brand new single player RPG that has absolutely nothing to do with Star Wars than a KotOR MMORPG. Jade Empire 2, perhaps?
nb_nmare2 on 26 Apr '07
Ok yeah, they could use the time it would take for to make this for something else but, there are gonna be the millions of people who play online games (like me) that wants to play KotOR online, quite frankly it actually takes longer to make a single player RPG than it does to make an MMO, so time wise doesn't really matter as much, just think of it this way, its another KotOR game that just happens to be online, and if its better than SWG and WoW then i imagine it could be the best online game that could ever of been made, just because you don't want to pay money to play a game after you've already bought it doesn't mean it isn't good, or because you might not have a fast enough broadband to play it, it is just after all another game and SWG is getting on now and there needs to be another SW MMO thats gonna take over SWG, and SW KotOR Online is definitely the way to go.
Crowlis on 26 Apr '07
Make if for the PC. I need a replacement for WoW.
trypsin on 26 Apr '07
Lol, thats true, well, they should make it for the PC anyway, most games are made for the PC as the PC is almost considered as a next-gen type console thing, umm that came out a bit wrong.
Crowlis on 27 Apr '07
i think someone should setup a poll and let ppl vote on what they want...Me i love KOTOR 1 & 2 would love if they would keep it SP and not MP
kenrom on 27 Apr '07
Well, thats what i don't understand, if they are making KotOR Online, it won't take over the KotOR SP games, its separate, it won't have anything to do with KotOR 1, 2 or 3 (when it gets made), it will be a separate story with hardly any relation to the SP games, so it won't matter if they make it because, it won't take over the original KotOR games we all know and love, so thats why i don't see why people won't give it a chance, the point is if you don't want to play it, then don't, it's a as simple as that, it's just Star Wars in the old republic, in my opinion, they should make more games in the KotOR era and not just leave it to a SP RPG trilogy (I hope for a trilogy), anyway thats my daily rant over, lol.
Crowlis on 27 Apr '07
These rumors are nearly complete rubbish. You KOTOR fans have nothing to worry about. While Bioware are creating a new MMORPG (they've opened new offices specifically for this project) it will not be based on the Star Wars universe, it's going to be a brand new IP.

Also Dragon Age (also mentioned in the rumor) is also a brand new IP.

So stop worrying, all of you, this rumor is a load of b*****ks!!!!
dezjac on 27 Apr '07
I'd like to see your proof that they aren't making it, normally i don't listen to rumors either, but when Bioware have heard the rumor and not deny it, thats when i decided that they may be making it, so unless you have proof stated by Bioware they are not making a SW KOTOR Online, then i think you shouldn't post such a bold statement that you have no idea is true.
Crowlis on 28 Apr '07
hopefully this is true kotor is one of the best games on the xbox if not the best and this would be a great games on the XBOX360 and hopefully soon to follow on the PC the timeframe is perfect they dont hav a specific guidline it gives the devs lots of freedom look what they did with the first kotor classic this one will definetly b a great game my only worry is storage and space for the devs to work with i jus hope they have a base thats full of content then post the things they couldnt include on the game for online play on xbox live content so we can get a good feel of the game this is great news lets just hope that this news will be announced by bioware
frenchkid on 20 May '07
OH GOD!

If There is a KOTOR MMORPG making by Bioware.
We will taste the BEST Star Wars Experience Ever.
Believe Me


Lets Pray to the Lord all together...
zaykodroid on 21 May '07
OMG PLEASE MAKE A KOTOR MMO!!!!!!!!!! I'm getting tired of all the other MMOs. Wow is boring and anything else is gay! please make a KOTOR MMO!!! I have had dreams about it! I will pay what ever monthly and so will mass other people! Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyLaughing
DarthRevan on 3 Jun '07
I don't understand why six people say no? I mean, come on. It'll be the best MMO ever. Maybe even the best MMORPG off of Star Wars! Why say no?

Because you're all seeming like idiots. I mean, come on. Why say no?! Mass Effect: SP game..Being made by a seperate district of Bioware; No resources ('Cept money) being drained.

Dragon Age: (Another seperate district being made by BioWare. Resources taken: Money. )

Kotor 3: (Being made by yet another district. Resource: Money.)

Kotor Online (Being made by BioWare; a seperate district. Resources: Money.) You see this tree?

They have more than enough talent and money to work on all those. You know why? Mass Effect will bring in more money than they could possibly wish for.

Kotor 3 will contribute to that as well. Didn't you know that each district will be developing at the same time, those titles? Bet ya didn't. These games will all be out when they're done. So if they get finished with Mass Effect, they'll move that district onto another project (Or split up the current team, and move so-and so to work on one project, and so and so to work on another project. ) It doesn't hinder anything! They have enough money from Kotor, and Jade Empire, and NwN and NwN2, and Baldur's Gate to pool in ths type of move. If done correct, then only 6 people will probably protest it. Hah. I'd love to see you 6 in the game, sitting in the corner, holding up 'SayNo to Kotor Online' while millions of others walk you by and ignore you. Yeah. That's how big MMO's of a great Genre are. Stargate Worlds and KotorOnline will jus tbe the topping of the cake. I am actually looking forward to this news, unlike the 6 people that hate this news. I can't wait for this news to be true. =D

-Darknessx
Darknessx on 28 Jun '07
I think that this new is a desire made real if we think in the more number of players. Today, despite of some coments here, the solo RPGS are dead.

KOTOR is a dazzling timeline for the SW Universe, and, with an SW Galaxies being almos ancient, this is the time for the Bioware Rumor made real, i think.

The people who says no to the idea of a MMO on KOTOR prefering the conventional RPG, is because they have never played online yet. If they discover the new game ways, then, they will love the online and they never will play conventional games in the future.

This was my way.
Korely on 26 Jul '07
KoToR MMO would be the best thing ever. Please pull your head out of your butt and get into the real world. Rest of us dont need your bs.. Please stop being cheap.

kkthnx
KoToR MMo Lovin Guy
KOTORMMOFoWin on 6 Sep '07
I really like the news of KOTOR III a lot. However, I have few things I do not like about it.

1. I do not like the idea of it being on-line. Yes, on-line could be great, and yeah I have not played an on-line game. But I do not like the idea for the same reason why some else said about it. You like a for a game that might take you 4 months or . Shocked Not to mention additional fees to it. I rather pay or for a band new Xbox game than that. Not that I think on-line game is bad idea. I think you should do both. Just do not make the same with KOTOR II.

2. With the Multiplayer mode thing, it's not a bad, but I would rather have a single mode to go with it.

3. And with the MMO problem, I personaly do not know anything about MMO. So I do not have have anything wrong with it, but I loved the way KOTOR I & KOTOR II was made. So I really would just wish that you

Not that I hate this at all, but I real wished that who ever created KOTOR II restore it to the way it was met to be played alittle more than KOTOR III.
completemystery on 15 Sep '07
Completely agree with SoulChimaera.

When I heard this rumour it practically wrecked my day. No doubt we'll be charged a ridiculous recurring fee on a monthly basis. I played Star Wars Galaxies for some crazy reason and I met probably 5 decent people - everyone else was really rude and disrespectful. Actually, KOTORMMOFoWin proves my point. "Stop being cheap", how rude is that? Some people don't have people to spoil them mate, I'm skint I can't afford Ł8.99 a month, would you believe it.

Please, if anyone is developing this as an MMO, please just drop the idea and make a normal sequel game. It's a much safer option, MMO's always turn out to be disasters. This is coming from someone who has played MMOs, the community is generally horrible, the gameplay is almost as bad, and they don't have a thing on single player RPGs. KOTORIII could be immense, but an MMO would be your biggest mistake ever.
TLM on 26 Oct '07
Actually if anyone agrees with me and doesn't want this to be developed into an MMO, sign this Wink

There's not many signatures because it hasn't got any publicity, I think.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?0KOTORMO&1
TLM on 26 Oct '07
By the way, we have launched a Wiki Knowledge Base that will be continuously enriched with information about BioWares's upcoming next-generation MMO. Everyone is welcome to visit the KotOR MMO Wiki at http://kotor.mmolab.com.
Wargath on 25 Nov '07
i thiNK KotOR would SUCK as an MMO becuase in MMO's all you do is try to be better than your friends Mad

but if there was a seperate KotOR based MMo thats fine but KOTOR IS MENT TO BE A SIGLE PLAYER NOT MENT TO BE A FRIKIN MMOEvil or Very Mad

Im a big fan KotOR as any of you but im just givin my 2 cents worth on KotOR III Cool
daxonyx on 27 Jan '08
This rumor is utter bunk thanks to the extra crap added onto it. Bioware have been adamant that Dragon Age is a PC game. Even if EA were to force their hand and make them put it on consoles, it wouldn't be PS3-exclusive. That's just not how EA roll.

And more importantly, the whole thing about Baldur's Gate pretty much consigns the rumor to the rubbish heap. Bioware are totally done with Baldur's Gate. They've said it before again and again. More importantly, the license for Baldur's Gate as a franchise is still owned by Interplay - the same Interplay that still owe Bioware money for unpaid royalties for Baldur's Gate II - and the Forgotten Realms license is with Atari. Bioware's owned by EA. Why would you outsource a game to your competitor's studios?

The only part that's likely true is a KotOR MMO, but we've been expecting that the Bioware MMO is KotOR for years now.
NegativeZero on 28 Apr '08
Woot! I have been waiting for KOTOR 3 since i quit galaxies. Theres even guilds already forming. www.kotor3mmo.com
cultivi on 18 Jul '08
anyone who is posting that they shouldn't make KOTOR an MMO needs to grow up. What right do you have to tell them not to make a game that so many people want to see made. you sit at your computer and talk about how this would ruin the other two games but tell me how would it ruin them its not like when the game comes out those two games will change. personally i think that the single player KOTOR should stop at 2. only because i don't want to see it turn into one of those games that gets to like KOTOR XVI where the game will be the same as the last on with just a new face and new names. anyways the point is its there company not yours if they want to make a KOTOR MMORPG then they will they don't give a s**t about who doesn't want to see it made because they know that they will make millions if they make it so sit there and cry because it is deffenitly going to be made.
Chainer on 9 Oct '08
This does sound like a dream come true....but PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PLEASE FFS dont make the lightsabers all goofy it will destroy your game
Sephiroth171 on 20 Nov '08
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