The rumours were right about Mario Kart Wii showing up at E3 last week, they were wrong about it coming out this year - Nintendo tells CVG it has enough big games for Christmas and wants to hold something back for the typical New Year "void".
"For the holidays we have a huge line-up of Wii games already, including Metroid Prime 3 Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy, Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles and Pokémon Battle Revolution. Fans will not be hurting for great games to play," said Nintendo, who doesn't want to punt everything at Christmas and have nothing left for the New Year.
"One of the most common complaints is that the video game industry focuses only on the holidays and saves nothing for the first quarter," Nintendo explains. "Mario Kart will fill that void, and we're confident it will be a standout title."
We asked about differing control methods to be used in the game, to which Nintendo reaffirmed the inclusion of the Wii Wheel with the game, and highlighted that you can play the game withough the wheel simply by holding the Wii Remote on its side.
There was no mention of Nunchuk or analogue stick support of any kind, so it looks like we could be forced into using the tilt controls.
Nintendo also said that it would reveal more major Mario Kart Wii-related announcements in the future. Let the Sonic rumours begin.
I thought since the u.s get smash Bros this year we were supposed to get Mario kart? Once again Nintendo screws Europe over. If Mario or metroid gets delayed i will be so p**sed!!
it shouldn't be released until a hop is implemented. i'm not keen on all this remote on side b******s(it ruined sonic) can't we just use a wavebird/classic pad instead?
I'm starting to get sooooo excited for this game, and that Sonic rumour you've just thrown into the bag ain't helping it. I need it now!
And I'm actually really chuffed that it's only tilt sensitive controls. I played a Wii when the demos toured the UK before its release and, whilst playing the cow racing game (of Wii Play), exclaimed how awesome a Mario Kart game would be with tilt controls, the demonstrator guy seemed to agree (though I suspect he knew nothing about games - they were all the beautiful people).
I never believed Nintendo would have Mario Kart out this year, i don't think it will be out Q1 next year either, why havent we seen any of the gameplay apart from one tiny E3 video?
Christmas in Europe could be either amazing or rubbish this Christmas.
Metroid ( We better get before christmas, but no mention of it on this list) Mario Galaxy (Don't know if we'll see this actually...) Smash Brothers (Hopefully)
That's just first party but hopefully we'll get 2 of the above or i will be p**sed off!
There has been no reason to hype up Mario Kart. They’ll have a time line for it. They’ll have a drip feed set up and key info release points to a get the fans going, climaxing in the release of the game it’s self. If they blow their wad now then people will possible be a bit “meh” when it comes out. They have to build the excitement and anticipation. The focus now is on the games that will be out before Christmas. They could show us loads on any number of games, but it would kill any buzz and spoil the game.
i know we wont get smash bros this year but people have faith in nintendo i can see them bringing mario galaxy out for us in time for christmas. and also check game website, metroid 3 comes out october 26
I never believed Nintendo would have Mario Kart out this year, i don't think it will be out Q1 next year either, why havent we seen any of the gameplay apart from one tiny E3 video?
Christmas in Europe could be either amazing or rubbish this Christmas.
Metroid ( We better get before christmas, but no mention of it on this list)
There's quite a few decent games coming this year i'm glad all the titles aren't being released so close, Mario Kart can wait. But quite a few seem to think Metroid might not be out. Pretty sure its been given a official release date of oct 26th or something in europe. *looks* = click
And i doubt christmas will go by without a big release...cue Mario Galaxy methinks.
i agree with maugrim2712 there are quite alot of decent games coming out, i can't wait for dragonballz bt3 its gunna be cool online, also that dewys adventure looks fun, resident evil uc also supposed to come out, and new medal of honour online aswell
Tilt control only? Sh*t. The Wii destroys another great franchise. The Wiimote sucks for racing games (it sucks for everything actually but how and ever...) What "void" could this possibly fill? Another Gamecube-quality Mario Kart title, but without any means of controlling it properly? I believe Metal Gear Solid 4 among other things is coming early 2008, but I digress... So does this mean then that Double Dash was the last console Mario Kart title you can actually play properly? Is EVERY classic Nintendo franchise going to be playable using only that stupid, impractical, sh*t in all genres Wiimote? I don't think we'll have the pleasure of playing a Nintendo game properly ever again thanks to this God-damned piece of unmittigated sh*te they call the Wii. Nintendo aren't about to abandon crappy motion control with their next console, it makes them too much money, so this is more than likely the future of Nintendo. Standing in front of the TV waving your arms like a t**t struggling to get the game to respond to your actions. Mario Kart is now officially ruined, and by the end of the Wii life-cycle, which I hope is as soon as bloody possible, every other Nintendo franchise will also have been ruined. Congratulations Nintendo, you are making loads of money. Only problem is you are making it at the expense of quality, purely through gimmicks, and are destroying your entire history in the process. Well done.
Something I can spend all my christmas vouchers on! Normally I am stuck with them for months. Also I often run out of money to buy all the games that come out before christmas as I have spent it all on presents for other people.
Tilt control only? Sh*t. The Wii destroys another great franchise. The Wiimote sucks for racing games (it sucks for everything actually bt how and ever...) What "void" could this possibly fill? Another Gamecube-quality Mario Kart title, but without any means of controlling it properly? I believe Metal Gear Solid 4 among other things is coming early 2008, but I digress... So does this mean then that Double Dash was the last console Mario Kart title you can actually play properly? Is EVERY classic Nintendo franchise going to be playable using only that stupid, impractical, sh*t in all genres Wiimote? I don't think we'll have the pleasure of playing a Nintendo game properly ever again thanks to this God-damned fu*king piece of unmittigated sh*te they call the Wii. Mario Kart is now officially ruined, and by the end of the Wii life-cycle, which I hope is as soon as bloody possible, every other Nintendo franchise will also have been ruined. Congratulations Nintendo, you are making loads of money. Only problem is you are making it at the expense of quality, purely through gimmicks, and are destroying your entire history in the process. Well done.
God you don't half moan!
I personally love the way the wiimote works for Excite truck so I can't wait to see how mario kart works with it. I would also challenge your point that it does not work for anything. Have you played RE4 on the wii? It is the best version because of the controls not despite them!
Wow your on the ball leefear, you responded to my post before I'd even edited it to the new one. Nah haven't played RE4 on the Wii, I wont be playing anything on it until Super Paper Mario.
Just to add to my last post, as if it's necessary, I really wish I'd held on to my Gamecube. If I had known it would be Nintendo's last true console I would have shown it more respect.
excite truck was alright i liked it, but all other racing games have been s**te, but were any of the s**te ones made by nintendo. nintendo are really the only ones who understand the potential of their products and how to put them to use. to be honest i'm f**king bored stiff of controlling racing games using an analogue stick.
So let me get this straight, Nintendo want to fill the 'void'? There has been no decent games released since launch for gods sake! Please don't say Resi 4 cos its a port. So not only do Nintendo screw Europe again with Super Smash, but they delay Mario Kart in purpose! So I guess Wii owners are left with Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3 this year while 360 and PS3 get loads of great games...
Wow your on the ball leefear, you responded to my post before I'd even edited it to the new one. Nah haven't played RE4 on the Wii, I wont be playing anything on it until Super Paper Mario.
Just to add to my last post, as if it's necessary, I really wish I'd held on to my Gamecube. If I had known it would be Nintendo's last true console I would have shown it more respect.
I read your post both before and after it you edited it. All i see is someone not willing to give Nintendo a chance with their new console. On first party games Nintendo have proved the remote works well, and in most cases better than a joypad.
Wow your on the ball leefear, you responded to my post before I'd even edited it to the new one. Nah haven't played RE4 on the Wii, I wont be playing anything on it until Super Paper Mario.
Just to add to my last post, as if it's necessary, I really wish I'd held on to my Gamecube. If I had known it would be Nintendo's last true console I would have shown it more respect.
Well you are missing out on a great game. I had it for the GC and the wii version really is worth playing again. The controls show how well the wiimote can work when done properly. The controls are precise and extremely accurate and are almost as good as a mouse in my opinion, also the RE4 controls could easily be adapted for a fps.
I'd much rather have a standard control setup for MK. Nunchuck for control, and Wiimote maybe for aiming weapons and stuff. I think it'd be much better fun that way, and probably suit the MK style more too - it's not you need accurate steering controls in Mario Kart, do you?
I was quite excited about the idea Mario Kart on Wii, but sadly the control method will mean more concentration on steering and less on trying to take people out with shells and stuff, which is what made the original so much fun.
My fingers are crossed that they don't screw it up.
Did I miss something? Or, is Nintendo trying to be funny? I mean has anyone else felt snowed under with any of Nintendo's Wii games this year?
I guess though on the positive side it does sound that Nintendo are considering releasing a piece of Wii software sometime in the next year. Nobody complain! If they change their minds we could all be looking at another 2007.
I never believed Nintendo would have Mario Kart out this year, i don't think it will be out Q1 next year either, why havent we seen any of the gameplay apart from one tiny E3 video?
Christmas in Europe could be either amazing or rubbish this Christmas.
Metroid ( We better get before christmas, but no mention of it on this list)
There's quite a few decent games coming this year i'm glad all the titles aren't being released so close, Mario Kart can wait. But quite a few seem to think Metroid might not be out. Pretty sure its been given a official release date of oct 26th or something in europe. *looks* = click
And i doubt christmas will go by without a big release...cue Mario Galaxy methinks.
26th October? Darn! If they left it a couple of weeks then they could have claimed a record full year between decent Wii games.
My Wii cries at night. Seriously, it does. It keeps whinging about how it was abandoned by it's parents.
Nintendo are a disgrace when it comes to stuff like this. I'm sure I predicted this in another thread, along with Smash Brothers, and there's no way we'll get Galaxy over here by christmas... We're still waiting for Paper Mario for christ's sake.
This would be a good ploy if there wasn't a huge starving for a decent game on the Wii at the moment.
I can't see everyone's fuss in them holding it to 2008, they said they would at E3 anyway...
Is EVERY classic Nintendo franchise going to be playable using only that stupid, impractical, sh*t in all genres Wiimote? I don't think we'll have the pleasure of playing a Nintendo game properly ever again thanks to this God-damned piece of unmittigated sh*te they call the Wii. Nintendo aren't about to abandon crappy motion control with their next console, it makes them too much money, so this is more than likely the future of Nintendo. Standing in front of the TV waving your arms like a t**t struggling to get the game to respond to your actions. Mario Kart is now officially ruined, and by the end of the Wii life-cycle, which I hope is as soon as bloody possible, every other Nintendo franchise will also have been ruined. Congratulations Nintendo, you are making loads of money. Only problem is you are making it at the expense of quality, purely through gimmicks, and are destroying your entire history in the process. Well done.
Wow, can I buy one of those crystal balls you're using? Seriously, all you guys seem to have them lately.
I love how everybody completely tears the Wii to pieces at every single opportunity, yeah I own one, but I'm not happy with it by the lack of games. And that's it really. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the control system, I'm sorry but I fail to see it, a few minor mess ups with Wii Golf at one point, but apart from that, it's fine, even if it hasn't actually been properly implemented into a game yet.
So fall out, you want a Mario Kart game without the controls? Get f***ing double dash then mate, I'm sorry to be unreasonable but your posts aren't fair at all. Some of us want to see new games, yeah some of the current Wii games have gimmicky controls, but the potential is huge, and if you're not one for something fresh and new, go for a PS3 and see good games that existed years ago with identical controls and prettier graphics. Because in my opinion, that's all it is.
s**t in all genres? How the hell do you know? Has the Wii actually got a DECENT example of every genre? Apart from maybe minigames. No. It hasn't. The current FPSs aren't that impressive, I played COD3 and it was fine with a bit of practice. Platformers, well, we'll see how that fares when Mario Galaxy comes out. TP controls were fine, they might not have been innovative but they made nice little touches (shooting with the bow, etc) without making the game too different. I'm not saying the Wii is perfect, or even that brilliant at the moment, but I can see the potential.
Sorry to rant, but every one of your posts is so closed minded and arrogant that you really need to be silenced.
Well you are missing out on a great game. I had it for the GC and the wii version really is worth playing again. The controls show how well the wiimote can work when done properly. The controls are precise and extremely accurate and are almost as good as a mouse in my opinion, also the RE4 controls could easily be adapted for a fps.
I thought the RE4 Wii controls worked quite well and were accurate enough, but the jitter correction just means that the pointer was sluggish. Anyone used to playing games with a mouse will say the same.
Adds to the tension though when you can't aim quickly!
All i see is someone not willing to give Nintendo a chance with their new console.
How long does a chance take? How about 8 months? If they could release a single decent non-ported game with decent controls I would be happy. Sports was great for a day, Excite truck was terrible, Strikers was rubbish, RE4 was a decent port, Super Paper Mario was/is great (but could have easily run on a Gamecube). I'm yet to see Nintendo do anything but release something new and different, then sit back and rake in the cash. Their E3 presence would say that they haven't been that busy.
i dnt no wot th hell ur all on about, i mean sure im dissapointed that that it aint cumin out 4 ages bt u aint on about that ur all annoyed about nintendo experimenting n th game wnt b as easy n ull need mor skill. wot happened wen they experimented wiv the ds n wii? SUCCESS!!!!!! now calm down relax see wot appens if any thin goes rong THEN is th time 2 complain
it shouldn't be released until a hop is implemented. i'm not keen on all this remote on side b******s(it ruined sonic) can't we just use a wavebird/classic pad instead?
Agreed, also I think the roster will be similar to that of Smash Bros
Tilt control only? Sh*t. The Wii destroys another great franchise. The Wiimote sucks for racing games (it sucks for everything actually but how and ever...) What "void" could this possibly fill? Another Gamecube-quality Mario Kart title, but without any means of controlling it properly? I believe Metal Gear Solid 4 among other things is coming early 2008, but I digress... So does this mean then that Double Dash was the last console Mario Kart title you can actually play properly? Is EVERY classic Nintendo franchise going to be playable using only that stupid, impractical, sh*t in all genres Wiimote? I don't think we'll have the pleasure of playing a Nintendo game properly ever again thanks to this God-damned piece of unmittigated sh*te they call the Wii. Nintendo aren't about to abandon crappy motion control with their next console, it makes them too much money, so this is more than likely the future of Nintendo. Standing in front of the TV waving your arms like a t**t struggling to get the game to respond to your actions. Mario Kart is now officially ruined, and by the end of the Wii life-cycle, which I hope is as soon as bloody possible, every other Nintendo franchise will also have been ruined. Congratulations Nintendo, you are making loads of money. Only problem is you are making it at the expense of quality, purely through gimmicks, and are destroying your entire history in the process. Well done.
my my arent we bitter. the wiimote works so much better for fps than an analouge stick, and works a lot better for drivin games cos incase you hadnt noticed, in real life we steer bg tilting a wheel rather than mesding about with a stick. wii is their best console in years and frankly the gamecube is what ruined there reputation, the wii is bringing it back. hows that for a crap white stick? oh and erm, ps3, name 5 good games out this year
But surely giving the consumer as big a choice of games as possible can only be a goo dd thing?
I mean, if they release Mario Kart before Christmas, it'll still be on shop shelves afterwards won't it if we haven't bought it by then.....
No having an influx of games leaves some to not get the appreciation they deserve and left out as the next big release comes. More companies should release more games during the summer drought instead of the state like we have with 360. Too many games being released for most if not everyone to possibly afford to enjoy.
And as for the others harping on about no decent games that depends on the person. Plenty of games not apparent on 360 in its first year and it wasn't until Gears that anything truly worth buying machine for. Still it had a better selection than Wii. Tho when the years out i'd like to stack up the games side by side for the launch year and see then!
someone mentioned super paper mario, duh its coming out mid-september. and before people criticise nintendo put your self in their shoes, if they bring mario kart out this year then early 2008 they'll get moaning stupid idiots like somepeople on these forums complaing that nintendo released all their big names to close together. and why are people so desperate for mario kart, i'm sure zelda ph, metroid prime 3 and hopefully mario galaxy will be enough.
one last thing is it just me or is it that the xbox 360 and ps3 have a constant trend of futuristic fps, racing game, futuristic fps, racing game, and so on
How long does a chance take? How about 8 months? If they could release a single decent non-ported game with decent controls I would be happy. Sports was great for a day, Excite truck was terrible, Strikers was rubbish, RE4 was a decent port, Super Paper Mario was/is great (but could have easily run on a Gamecube). I'm yet to see Nintendo do anything but release something new and different, then sit back and rake in the cash. Their E3 presence would say that they haven't been that busy.
I think you're very much in the minority if you think Excite truck and Mario Strikers where not good games, chum. Also, you must have a very short attention span if you where bored with Wii Sports after one day.
See I told you lot they hold back games, I bet we won't even see Super Smash Bros Brawl until next year!
LOL They have already said Europe won't be getting Super Smash this year... What I want to know is where the hell is the 3rd party support! If Wii even had any then we wouldn't all be complaining about waiting for the next Nintendo game.
For ANYBODY moaning about the lack of games out for the WII at the moment: FECK OFF.
How long did it take for a GREAT game to be released exclusivly for the 360 ? Dont even get me started on the PS3's games roster. I had my PS2 for quite a while until a great game was released for it. The DS had a really bad few months after its release too. And look at it go NOW. ALL consoles go through an initial dry spell. Anybody who buys a console should expect this, instead of bloody complaining about it. Sure, all the promises made by the manufacturers pre-release only hurt when they dont come true, but it really IS part of the industry now. Like it or not. At the moment, I own just about every console thats been and gone since the NES/Master System days, so Im NOT a single minded fanboy trying to stick up for Nintendo. Im sticking up for every console thats released without killer games for the first year or so. If you stick by ANY console, you WILL have some great games in due time.
The reason the Wii is still light on games is because most games usually take 18-24 months to make. Even up to a year ago, everyone thought the Wii would be a failure, so no-one developed software for it.
Now that it's gone on sale and flying off the shelves these developers (eg EA) are now realising they c**ked up big-time and are starting to develop games for it.
So to cut a long story short, the games will come in droves, just not for a little while and the extra delay for Mariokart, gives Nintendo the chance to perfect it, rather than rush it out.
The reason the Wii is still light on games is because most games usually take 18-24 months to make. Even up to a year ago, everyone thought the Wii would be a failure, so no-one developed software for it.
Now that it's gone on sale and flying off the shelves these developers (eg EA) are now realising they c**ked up big-time and are starting to develop games for it.
So to cut a long story short, the games will come in droves, just not for a little while and the extra delay for Mariokart, gives Nintendo the chance to perfect it, rather than rush it out.
Quoted for truth. The only reason people are complaining that the Wii fails is because of the lack of games, which is pretty much down to the awful third party support. Even back in the days of the N64 and such Nintendo had Rare and other second party developers to make good games such as Banjo etc.
Now, the whole gaming community (minus those interested in the more shallow games like cooking and minigames and whatnot) is waiting with mouths wide open for first party games such as Galaxy and Smash and Kart, (+ Metroid, but that's Retro isn't it?)
It's this third party support that has got the Xbox and the PS2/3 so much stability (lesser said for the PS3) in the form of the GTA series, Metal Gear, etc, and why in many eyes the Wii is a failure of a console.
You can't actually expect Nintendo to churn out so many first party games that are of such a high quality standard in this amount of time. Microsoft don't, nor do Sony.
Tilt control only? Sh*t. The Wii destroys another great franchise. The Wiimote sucks for racing games (it sucks for everything actually but how and ever...) What "void" could this possibly fill? Another Gamecube-quality Mario Kart title, but without any means of controlling it properly? I believe Metal Gear Solid 4 among other things is coming early 2008, but I digress... So does this mean then that Double Dash was the last console Mario Kart title you can actually play properly? Is EVERY classic Nintendo franchise going to be playable using only that stupid, impractical, sh*t in all genres Wiimote? I don't think we'll have the pleasure of playing a Nintendo game properly ever again thanks to this God-damned piece of unmittigated sh*te they call the Wii. Nintendo aren't about to abandon crappy motion control with their next console, it makes them too much money, so this is more than likely the future of Nintendo. Standing in front of the TV waving your arms like a t**t struggling to get the game to respond to your actions. Mario Kart is now officially ruined, and by the end of the Wii life-cycle, which I hope is as soon as bloody possible, every other Nintendo franchise will also have been ruined. Congratulations Nintendo, you are making loads of money. Only problem is you are making it at the expense of quality, purely through gimmicks, and are destroying your entire history in the process. Well done.
Well you are missing out on a great game. I had it for the GC and the wii version really is worth playing again. The controls show how well the wiimote can work when done properly. The controls are precise and extremely accurate and are almost as good as a mouse in my opinion, also the RE4 controls could easily be adapted for a fps.
I thought the RE4 Wii controls worked quite well and were accurate enough, but the jitter correction just means that the pointer was sluggish. Anyone used to playing games with a mouse will say the same.
Adds to the tension though when you can't aim quickly!
All i see is someone not willing to give Nintendo a chance with their new console.
How long does a chance take? How about 8 months? If they could release a single decent non-ported game with decent controls I would be happy. Sports was great for a day, Excite truck was terrible, Strikers was rubbish, RE4 was a decent port, Super Paper Mario was/is great (but could have easily run on a Gamecube). I'm yet to see Nintendo do anything but release something new and different, then sit back and rake in the cash. Their E3 presence would say that they haven't been that busy.
Super Paper Mario will indeed be great and i've had 3 hours of fun this evening on Excite Truck. Stick with it and it's an excellent game. Wii Fit and the board that goes with it is "something new and different". Why are some people so thick on here?!
nintendo aint the only game makers for the wii... if you look at sony only releases for the ps3 and microsoft only releases for the 360(not exclusives, i mean 1st party) then does it paint a better picture? i dont know the answer thats why i am asking.
Not amazing.. but as I've said before, I detest the Wii bashing with regard to the lack of games when the PS3 offers no better.
Not enough exclusives? Maybe, depending on your tastes. Not enough decent next-gen multiplatform games? Hell no.
Unlike the Wii the PS3 is getting games like the darkness, oblivion, dirt, ghost recon and loads of other nice multiplatform games while Wii owners are practically f***ed because the hardware can't handle those games.
So yes, the PS3 has more to offer at the moment and will continue to do so when games like DMC4, Assasin's creed, GTA4 and some nice PS3 exclusives arrive this year.
Why the hell is everyone moaning so much?! The quality games are on their way. And not having Mario Kart for Xmas isn't that big a deal. Smash Bros is a bummer but live with it. There a good few games out there, at least five but how many do you need?! The machine's not been out for a year yet! And everyone going on about Mario Galaxy being delayed should really think about it. Just cos Paper Mario's been delayed doesn't mean ALL games are going that way. I mean, Nintendo NEED this for Xmas. Do you really think they'd sacrifice their bigges game?! Come on! And like someone said previously, its the 3rd parties who have missed out cos they thought the Wii would fail but look at it now. Nintendo have good games coming out for Xmas, Sony don't and Mircosoft have more of the same (though these will be good).
Stop whining and go outside if you're not happy with the games...or buy a PS3 and "start living"
How long did it take for a GREAT game to be released exclusivly for the 360 ? Dont even get me started on the PS3's games roster. I had my PS2 for quite a while until a great game was released for it.
For me, great games are what I enjoy, not what a review says (don't know about anyone else); 360 - Condemned (release day) PS3 - Motorstorm/Resistance (release day) PS2 - Timesplitters (release day) GC - Monkey Ball (release day) Dreamcast - Sega Rally 2 (release day) Saturn - Virtua Fighter (release day) PS1 - Destruction Derby (release day) N64 - Mario 64 (release day) SNES - Super Mario (release day) Megadrive - Altered Beast (release day) NES - Mario (release day) Master System - Hang On (release day)
I did give TP a go on Wii and didn't really give it the time it should have had really. Not my cup of tea but I can see why people rave on about it.
Wii Fit and the board that goes with it is "something new and different". Why are some people so thick on here?!
i have to agree that the wii has a terrible line-up. Im looking to buy one soon but the only game I want is Zelda (which is a gc port). I know that by the end of the year there will be mario and metroid to get but other than that im not really fussed. The only thing thats holding me back is the price...Ł265 for a wii with zelda and 2 controllers! I can get a 360 with crackdown and Gears of War for Ł279. I think the wii is badly priced, Ł40 for zelda is a joke and Ł45 for a controller is just madness (remote and nu-chuck). I might just wait for a better deal...tho cause the damn things sell out everywhere i might have to wait a while
oh and Nintendo saying we have a huge line-up and list 4 games really made me laugh
seems nintendo is filling its void with a blackhole! since the wiis launch 9 months ago, it's only had about 4 reasonable games to play. looks like they'll give us 2 more this year, metroid and galaxy. well thanks, at least they're not revamped old cube titles, or ps2 psp ports! i'm starting to regret trading my 360 for my wii, i would have some good games this year on the xbox, online as well. i just can't understand why the wii's selling so well! i hope it dies soon, so nintendo can bring out a better console, that has true HD and some decent process power. thank god for the weather channel, it's one i can use my wii for! lol
Tilt control only? Sh*t. The Wii destroys another great franchise. The Wiimote sucks for racing games (it sucks for everything actually but how and ever...) What "void" could this possibly fill? Another Gamecube-quality Mario Kart title, but without any means of controlling it properly? I believe Metal Gear Solid 4 among other things is coming early 2008, but I digress... So does this mean then that Double Dash was the last console Mario Kart title you can actually play properly? Is EVERY classic Nintendo franchise going to be playable using only that stupid, impractical, sh*t in all genres Wiimote? I don't think we'll have the pleasure of playing a Nintendo game properly ever again thanks to this God-damned piece of unmittigated sh*te they call the Wii. Nintendo aren't about to abandon crappy motion control with their next console, it makes them too much money, so this is more than likely the future of Nintendo. Standing in front of the TV waving your arms like a t**t struggling to get the game to respond to your actions. Mario Kart is now officially ruined, and by the end of the Wii life-cycle, which I hope is as soon as bloody possible, every other Nintendo franchise will also have been ruined. Congratulations Nintendo, you are making loads of money. Only problem is you are making it at the expense of quality, purely through gimmicks, and are destroying your entire history in the process. Well done.
my my arent we bitter. the wiimote works so much better for fps than an analouge stick, and works a lot better for drivin games cos incase you hadnt noticed, in real life we steer bg tilting a wheel rather than mesding about with a stick. wii is their best console in years and frankly the gamecube is what ruined there reputation, the wii is bringing it back. hows that for a crap white stick? oh and erm, ps3, name 5 good games out this year
Good games coming out for ps3 this year Heavenly sword Grand theft auto iv assassins creed lair Halflife 2 Call of duty 4
Hmmm whats coming out for the wii this year. Hmmmm not alot... what a suprise lol so go back to your mums dungeon and play your kiddy fiddler machine.
I just spent a load more time on RE4 Wii this weekend and would like to take back the sluggish controls comment. Once you get used to the controls they're rather excellent.
The reason the Wii is still light on games is because most games usually take 18-24 months to make. Even up to a year ago, everyone thought the Wii would be a failure, so no-one developed software for it.
Now that it's gone on sale and flying off the shelves these developers (eg EA) are now realising they c**ked up big-time and are starting to develop games for it.
So to cut a long story short, the games will come in droves, just not for a little while and the extra delay for Mariokart, gives Nintendo the chance to perfect it, rather than rush it out.
Quoted for truth. The only reason people are complaining that the Wii fails is because of the lack of games, which is pretty much down to the awful third party support. Even back in the days of the N64 and such Nintendo had Rare and other second party developers to make good games such as Banjo etc.
Now, the whole gaming community (minus those interested in the more shallow games like cooking and minigames and whatnot) is waiting with mouths wide open for first party games such as Galaxy and Smash and Kart, (+ Metroid, but that's Retro isn't it?)
It's this third party support that has got the Xbox and the PS2/3 so much stability (lesser said for the PS3) in the form of the GTA series, Metal Gear, etc, and why in many eyes the Wii is a failure of a console.
You can't actually expect Nintendo to churn out so many first party games that are of such a high quality standard in this amount of time. Microsoft don't, nor do Sony.
Actually, Microsoft have done so. Remember that Rare and Bungie are both first party developers.
The problem remains though that Nintendo has not only repeated the mistakes they made last time around in Europe but also appears intent on amplifying them. Consider the release dates of Super Paper Mario in America and Japan. NOE is unable to promise any of the big titles like Galaxy, Super Smash Bros, etc. They managed to botch the release of Mario Party (which I don't see the appeal in anyway however many do). Even Metroid Prime 3 is still very sketchy in Europe.
The last big title we had of any true quality was Zelda: TW. Resi 4 is a port (although we could argue this of Zelda also). Excite Truck, while fun in a fairly short-term since, was overpriced as far as it's depth or quality is concerned. In fact, we are left with a very uncomfortable position as Nintendo gamers in Europe. Nintendo does not seem interested in the European territory at all, other than selling hardware. If it weren't for Sonic team and now Capcom the Wii would have been devoid of any quality titles at all since the redirected GC to Wii Zelda.
Likewise, this NOE attitude is clearly spreading to the DS. How long has the rest of the world had with Pokemon Diamond / Pearl? Considering that this is supposed to offer online competitive battling as a major component it seems very much a major slight of Nintendo that they have weighted the game towards other non-european territories. In short, European gamers will be forced to play catch-up in a very real sense.
I love my Wii console for all it represents. It reproduces many of the ideas evident in the design and direction of Sega's Dreamcast. However, it increasingly irritates me that I paid Ł180 for a piece of hardware that has not been software-supported by it's own parent company in the European territory. Comparing it with the rest of the world, America and mainly Japan and you can see that Nintendo has once again decided to waste little effort in catering for this territory.
I had the Cube and while a good quality hardware unit it suffered from little support. I believed Nintendo's now empty promises that the Cube's problems would not be repeated and gave them one more chance. It would now appear that I am extremely unlikely to repeat this mistake again.
No matter how innovative your hardware, there's only so long you can marvel at the innovation without software to implement it.
I really don't understand g_marrs concerns. It is way too early in the console's life to start saying that Nintendo have made the same mistakes as with Gamecube.
You only have to take one look at the all-consoles charts to see that, week-in week-out, there is a healthy smattering of DS and Wii titles and stuff you would have never believed (throughout previous generations) would do well, sales-wise.
As much as I would love to get to play Mario Kart before Christmas, can you blame Nintendo for not rushing its release when they are making more than enough money from Non-games. As a bit of a Ninty-Fanboy, I'm willing to allow them their moment to gather in non and casual gamers (just as Sony did and wasn't criticised for doing so). This is because I know, just as I did with Gamecube, that there will be genre-defining classics on the way. You said that the Gamecube was under-supported in terms of software. I own all three of the last-gen platforms and I firmly believe that the Gamecube's Library was the strongest and most varied.
I have faith that the Wii's will be the same.
How could they have made the same mistakes, given that they are trouncing the opposition in terms of sales, and that in a lot less time than the 360 has been on the market for? For all the nay-sayers slagging off the control issues and under-powered innards, you cannot argue with the facts.
In answer to yOyOdagOgO's comments on failing to think of five or more great Wii games out this year to match his six PS3, try:-
Metroid Prime Corruption Super Mario Galaxy No More Heroes Super Paper Mario Res Evil:Umbrella Chronicles Batallion Wars NiGHTS Geometry Wars:Galaxies Brothers in Arms Canis Canem Edit
Oh, that's more than five, but all potentially superb pieces of software and still down for 2007. Of his six, four aren't exclusives and one was apparently a big let-down at E3.
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