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GJ07: LotRO sccops PC game of the year

Turbine's MMO runs rings around the competition
(Drum roll). The PC Game of the Year 2007 - sponsored by PC Gamer, has been awarded to Turbine's Tolkien-powered MMO The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar.

And the hobbits rejoiced.
Lord of the Rings Online beat off WoW, Football Manager 2007, Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. to grab the gong. We've have a feeling this is going to generate some interesting and no doubt highly enlightening discussion in the comments below...

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What a joke. That sack of turd deserves nothing.
Mogs on 26 Oct '07
PC Game of the year? Anyone that has played this will testify that this is clearly wrong , either that or all the other PC games were terrible?
skaghead on 26 Oct '07
who in their right mind voted that rubbish as PC GOTY
lmimmfn on 26 Oct '07
Im more confused about WOW winning online game for PC but not PC GoTY when a different online game won it.

Surely this would have beaten WoW in online award if its the GoTY for PC Confused
mfnick on 26 Oct '07
Congrats!

I love this game and am thrilled that the team got the respect that they deserve. MMORPG's are the hardest games to make in the business and Turbine hit it out of the park.

Very Happy Woot!
gamerz on 26 Oct '07
Yeah...who in their right mind would vote LOTRO for best game of the year? Apparently the majority of people voting for the awards would. LOL. Ah, sore loser WOW fanboys. Very Happy
MasterGeek on 26 Oct '07
Well deserved. Congrats Turbine!
Tyveil on 26 Oct '07
No, as each section was voted on individually so more people might have voted for LOTR, though why I can't say. If you watched it didn't you just expect ross atherton from PCGamer to finish with "and a wine for the ladies"
ronin Ithikus on 26 Oct '07
Hahaha what crap!

Sure LotrO is meant to be ok, but look at it this way:

I'm a huge Lotr fan and play an MMO (WoW) BUT don't want this game. Surely I'm the prime demographic?

Who really voted for this that is a pc gamer?
gothchild on 26 Oct '07
I'm just happy that STALKER got a mention ... still doing the fanboy happy dance btw
Capt_Frantic on 26 Oct '07
Yeah...I'm a PC gamer that voted for LOTRO. WoW is overhyped and ezmode from start to finish. That coupled with the fact that LOTRO players overall seem to have a higher IQ (or perhaps simply maturity level) put LOTRO far ahead of WoW. Great job Turbine, you deserve it.
MasterGeek on 26 Oct '07
Shocked

If this is the way the voting works I'm surprised a Harry Potter game didn't win a GoTY FFS!!! As above, I've heard it's good, I'm a huge LOTR fan, but WoW clearly whips it as a PC and MMO Game. Not to mention all the other genres that probably (if we're honest) deserved this award ahead of LoTRO...

Evil or Very Mad
charlie_boy666 on 26 Oct '07
I have played LOTRO and WoW in the past and they're both pretty tedious. LOTRO is just a cynical and uninspired continuation of the same old worn-out RPG gameplay and presentation, which in my mind makes it a sack of turd.
Mogs on 26 Oct '07
Hahaha what crap!

Sure LotrO is meant to be ok, but look at it this way:

I'm a huge Lotr fan and play an MMO (WoW) BUT don't want this game. Surely I'm the prime demographic?

Who really voted for this that is a pc gamer?

You are included in the demographic, and you are denying yourself a treat. A great game in many ways.
Asaron on 26 Oct '07
Agree with many, WoW online game of the year, this game of the year?

They are both the same game just with different charachters for start, it is a very hard market MMORPGs as they are all the same in many aspects, but out rightly WoW is by far the best and most popular at the current moment in time. Lord of The Rings Online had to much expectation and delevired nothing compared to what WoW has at this current moment in time.

Next year there are a few more MMORPGs hitting the market so i hope it will make thins a bit more intresting, as i for one am really anxious to see Warhammer: Age of Reckoning and how it does, but i was the same about LOTR online and was severly shocked to see what it had produced, and the Burning Crusade update/major patch was deffinatly worth the money and has by far made WoW truely great, and news of Lich King coming out early 2008 we could be seeing them steal it all AGAIN!.
LennyMow on 26 Oct '07
What a wonderful surprise for a wonderful game! They truly outdid themselves with this fantastic representation of Middle Earth they have created.

Turbine deserves so much credit for going above and beyond with a great game and they got it Smile

*claps for Turbine and LOTRO*

Smile

Sorry mighty Blizzard, but chalk one up for the little guys Smile
hahaha
BeansandRice on 26 Oct '07
My congratulations to COG for all the hard work, put into LotR.
Well done.
JC239 on 26 Oct '07
Great MMO - say hello to me on the Laurelin server! Lockwood
locky_uk_2000 on 26 Oct '07
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Deviand on 26 Oct '07
sounds like the wow lovers haven't even tried lotr. i saw a lot of "I heard." I've never HEARD anyone not like Tolkein's books or Jackson's movies. I think we all agree on those. So to incorporate that into a well done video game representing arguably the best fantasy work of all time? What do you have? A blast. Add in the fact that there have been several upgrades and the game has only been out for a few months-including an entirely new fleshed out area for free. Add that fact that you can buy a lifetime membership for a low $$ amount. Add in the fact that if you were a beta player you kept your character and all items into the launch? Add in the fact that a trouble ticket is answered within minutes while in game. Add in the fact that they are actively working on gold spammers. Umm hello? This game will win again and again and you know why? Because year after year we will get closer and closer to Mount Doom and there isn't another game out there that can boast that kind of storyline.
Coolant on 26 Oct '07
S.T.A.L.K.E.R
Shadow of Chernobyl
ROCK!

(for the ones with the hardware that is supported properly by the game)...
(can't wait for stalker: clear sky!)

ps: the game is based on the book roadside picnic and the movie stalker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalker_%28film%29
is a lot about stuff that the developers used and inserted into the game. (it is a little spoilers there but noting that you see in the pc game)
stalker ops dude on 26 Oct '07
Agree with many, WoW online game of the year, this game of the year?

They are both the same game just with different charachters for start, it is a very hard market MMORPGs as they are all the same in many aspects, but out rightly WoW is by far the best and most popular at the current moment in time. Lord of The Rings Online had to much expectation and delevired nothing compared to what WoW has at this current moment in time.

Next year there are a few more MMORPGs hitting the market so i hope it will make thins a bit more intresting, as i for one am really anxious to see Warhammer: Age of Reckoning and how it does, but i was the same about LOTR online and was severly shocked to see what it had produced, and the Burning Crusade update/major patch was deffinatly worth the money and has by far made WoW truely great, and news of Lich King coming out early 2008 we could be seeing them steal it all AGAIN!.

OMG. Guess all the LOTR fans are going to toss each other off in the woods while RP-ing. Don't get met wrong but i played LOTR and its only a WoW rip-off.

OK, Let me start by saying, bin there done that. After playing MMO’s for over 10 years and trying or playing just about every major release from what was UO to EQ to SWG, then WOW and now Lotro. I am happy to see a company that puts in time and effort to “actually” think about game play and content instead of being the next big cookie cutter.

I did the Jedi thing, Did the HWL in wow thing 3 times over, you folks that can’t understand why WoW isn’t game of the year? Obviously can’t look beyond your cookie cutter want-a-be PvP styled MMO. Blizzard has done a excellent job of marketing a Online Game, they have made a game truly with mass appeal, and deserve the “online game of the year”. But if you think that make a PC game of the year, please step off and go back to the World of Farmcraft and stop disrespecting a truly great game.

Lotro is just that, simple the best game out there atm for this market. The developers involve with this game at Turbine have designed a game that holds true to the LOTR theme, while giving 100 percent more thought to content design then WoW ever did and Liche King will be the same farming power leveling loot race, because that model works for blizzard. Calling LOTRO a WOW rip off only goes to prove people can’t see past there “want-a-be, everything balanced, give me free loot for farming mentality”. Does LOTRO have a lot of similarities to WoW sure just like WoW is a EQ rip off and EQ was UO rip off. It’s the market they play in.

Get off the whine wagon. WoW deserves the Online Game of the YEAR, because it is. LOTRO has a right to claim the PC Game of the Year, because it takes the best of the market and puts it all together.
Lotro_Convert on 26 Oct '07
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humorguy on 26 Oct '07
sounds like the wow lovers haven't even tried lotr.

I have. I don't like either of them, but if I had to choose I'd pick WoW.

I don't think LotRO should get GOTY but meh, I can't always get what I want Smile
SgtDan on 26 Oct '07
Damn fine job, most of your critics havnt even played the damn game, glad you got it, I voted for yah!! Very Happy
morgoth890 on 26 Oct '07
Agree with many, WoW online game of the year, this game of the year?

They are both the same game just with different charachters for start, it is a very hard market MMORPGs as they are all the same in many aspects, but out rightly WoW is by far the best and most popular at the current moment in time. Lord of The Rings Online had to much expectation and delevired nothing compared to what WoW has at this current moment in time.

Next year there are a few more MMORPGs hitting the market so i hope it will make thins a bit more intresting, as i for one am really anxious to see Warhammer: Age of Reckoning and how it does, but i was the same about LOTR online and was severly shocked to see what it had produced, and the Burning Crusade update/major patch was deffinatly worth the money and has by far made WoW truely great, and news of Lich King coming out early 2008 we could be seeing them steal it all AGAIN!.

OMG. Guess all the LOTR fans are going to toss each other off in the woods while RP-ing. Don't get met wrong but i played LOTR and its only a WoW rip-off.

OK, Let me start by saying, bin there done that. After playing MMO’s for over 10 years and trying or playing just about every major release from what was UO to EQ to SWG, then WOW and now Lotro. I am happy to see a company that puts in time and effort to “actually” think about game play and content instead of being the next big cookie cutter.

I did the Jedi thing, Did the HWL in wow thing 3 times over, you folks that can’t understand why WoW isn’t game of the year? Obviously can’t look beyond your cookie cutter want-a-be PvP styled MMO. Blizzard has done a excellent job of marketing a Online Game, they have made a game truly with mass appeal, and deserve the “online game of the year”. But if you think that make a PC game of the year, please step off and go back to the World of Farmcraft and stop disrespecting a truly great game.

Lotro is just that, simple the best game out there atm for this market. The developers involve with this game at Turbine have designed a game that holds true to the LOTR theme, while giving 100 percent more thought to content design then WoW ever did and Liche King will be the same farming power leveling loot race, because that model works for blizzard. Calling LOTRO a WOW rip off only goes to prove people can’t see past there “want-a-be, everything balanced, give me free loot for farming mentality”. Does LOTRO have a lot of similarities to WoW sure just like WoW is a EQ rip off and EQ was UO rip off. It’s the market they play in.

Get off the whine wagon. WoW deserves the Online Game of the YEAR, because it is. LOTRO has a right to claim the PC Game of the Year, because it takes the best of the market and puts it all together.

I don't know why you're trying to claim that the game is something fresh and new. It's the same old s**t we've seen X times before...
Mogs on 26 Oct '07
OMG. Guess all the LOTR fans are going to toss each other off in the woods while RP-ing. Don't get met wrong but i played LOTR and its only a WoW rip-off.

Wow wasnt the first game of its kind you know Razz Most of the mmo games is more or less the same.

But yeah Lotro is a refined wow pretty much, as wow was a refinement of many older mmo's.

And sorry im a wow fanboy Razz Im just tired of people talking about it like it was the first game of the genre.
lyrael on 26 Oct '07
OK, Let me start by saying, bin there done that. After playing MMO’s for over 10 years and trying or playing just about every major release from what was UO to EQ to SWG, then WOW and now Lotro. I am happy to see a company that puts in time and effort to “actually” think about game play and content instead of being the next big cookie cutter.

I did the Jedi thing, Did the HWL in wow thing 3 times over, you folks that can’t understand why WoW isn’t game of the year? Obviously can’t look beyond your cookie cutter want-a-be PvP styled MMO. Blizzard has done a excellent job of marketing a Online Game, they have made a game truly with mass appeal, and deserve the “online game of the year”. But if you think that make a PC game of the year, please step off and go back to the World of Farmcraft and stop disrespecting a truly great game.

Lotro is just that, simple the best game out there atm for this market. The developers involve with this game at Turbine have designed a game that holds true to the LOTR theme, while giving 100 percent more thought to content design then WoW ever did and Liche King will be the same farming power leveling loot race, because that model works for blizzard. Calling LOTRO a WOW rip off only goes to prove people can’t see past there “want-a-be, everything balanced, give me free loot for farming mentality”. Does LOTRO have a lot of similarities to WoW sure just like WoW is a EQ rip off and EQ was UO rip off. It’s the market they play in.

Get off the whine wagon. WoW deserves the Online Game of the YEAR, because it is. LOTRO has a right to claim the PC Game of the Year, because it takes the best of the market and puts it all together.
Lotro_Convert wrote ^^


Hmmm, some things you write make alot of sense, but you obvioulsy playing all the MMORPGs ever made, have jumped from one bang wagon to the next, for example, before LOTR online you where WoW mad, here about LOTR online and jump over, might be better graphics better gameplay ( if you like Lord of The Rings ).

I for one like LOTR trilogy but was let down of wat u can do on game.....i have played it, and didnt like it, i was one of the beta testers as well.

Will you be jumping on Warhammer, Age of Reckoning band wagon too? i for one am though Laughing It will put all these games to shame!

End of day, everyone opinions are different, my opinion is that WoW is better than LOTR online, yours is LOTR online is better than WoW, I don't mind becaue you pay for your game and i pay for mine.

Anyone else here excited about Age of Reckoning?
LennyMow on 26 Oct '07
I've played lotro since its release. im currently a leader of the best end game guild in the game. 12 man thorog 2.0 and the 2end guild in the game to beat him.

I've played warcraft for 5 years.


as for lotr being #1 PFFT. quite frankly the game is completly unsatisfying to me i got board of it like the 3erd day of play but stuck with it for the lore then made friends so its hard to leave but i think I'm done.

when the game released they said it was supposed to be an alt for wow a game made for casual players who don't want to play 40 hours a week to complete objectives but since the beginning the game has made 1000 changes to make it just that

resources are extremely rare now and they added a reputation faction very similar to wows


in fact the game becomes more like war craft every day. every patch they add war craft features.

and i dunno wtf they are thinking but they are completely uninterested in creating end game content for players the best you can hope for is a 12 man that you beat in 2 hours and get board of in 3 runs

the servers cant hold many people and they feal dead half the time.

this game is for the very young and very old not for serious mmo players
Pluto9999 on 26 Oct '07

this game is for the very young and very old not for serious mmo players

Precisely. This game is the best at what it does. It caters to the more casual MMO player not those that enjoy WOW endgame.

Mass appeal does not always = the best.

Props to Turbine
Tigress74 on 27 Oct '07
Okay, calm down wow fans. Every single wow player that has played LOTRO, either that I have directly talked to toon to toon, in kinship, fellowship, or in the OOC channel agree that LOTRO is a much better all around game.

Though I have never played WoW, I don't plan to, want to, and frankly I don't need to. I am way satisfied with the game and it is definately a well-deserved win. Awesome job Turbine!
Joey205 on 27 Oct '07
best of the market and puts it all together. Lotro_Convert wrote ^^


Hmmm, some things you write make alot of sense, but you obvioulsy playing all the MMORPGs ever made, have jumped from one bang wagon to the next, for example, before LOTR online you where WoW mad, here about LOTR online and jump over, might be better graphics better gameplay ( if you like Lord of The Rings ).

Hmm... if LOTRO has better graphics (best of any game I've played, esp an online one like this) and better gameplay, does this not you know, indicate, umm... better? LOTRO's gfx are 'so' much better then WoW's and I did not have to grind at all to level up to 50. Killing mobs for xp was not something I did, at all.

But you know, WoW's storyline is way better... there is not a lot of depth to the people, places and things in LOTRO. I guess beating the pants off of WoW in GFX/Gameplay does not stack up when you consider the 'vision of a virtual world' factor, which WoW has totally on LOTRO.
erol on 27 Oct '07
I've played LOTRO for a while and I will say that the graphics, audio, UI, and storyline for the most part are solid. However, they have this tendency to nerf classes as they go along, especially with each Book they've added.

WoW was great but it's time has passed for me and there's nothing else out there that's worth mentioning so LOTRO was the lesser of two evils! Turbine shouldn't be uncorking the good stuff at all or any time soon. They should start listening to their community on their forums and reply back to them instead of ignoring them as they typically do!
auutumn on 27 Oct '07
LOTRO is simply brilliant.
Gratz Turbine.
You deserve it!
lilyspad on 27 Oct '07
A hearty congratulations to Turbine, you have crafted a very decent and enjoyable game.

I've been playing World of Warcraft for a while now, leveled a few characters to 70 and when it came to doing it all again I decided to try something different. The thought of facing the level grind again, only to be met with the same imbalances, the same repetitive raid dungeons - it was all looking like too much of a mountain. World of Warcraft is rarely a game, it's more of a lifestyle. And, after the time I've invested in it, a boring one from my perspective.

So, threw Lord of the Rings into my drive, after all - I paid for it, subscribed as a lifetime member but never played it! And I was amazed at the difference between the games.

To call this a clone of World of Warcraft is doing it a great disservice. The entire focus of the game is more on the social, lore and Tolkien aspect. As opposed to the Gear + Kill aspect of World of Warcraft.

Each does what they do well. Both are fun, but I'm glad I made the shift to this and I'm glad that most of my guild and most of my friends made the shift with me. Now to save up for a kinship house so we can begin decorating!
Tanitha on 27 Oct '07
I, myself love this game and thanks to PC Gamer. I got to play in the beta.It has tons of great things and more to come in the future. I forsee that this will Kick that sad game WOW out of the history books.I ask you why do you play a game? Is it for the story? Is it for the easy gameplay? Is it for the PVP? Is it for all the fun you can get? Then I say give the game a try it will surpise you.It looks like all the guys at Blizzard are going to be able to focus on better things like Starcraft 2.
Thanks again Turbine for the greatest Game I have played all year on PC.
neojr13 on 27 Oct '07
After playing wow for over 2.5 years...i have to say..I liked LOTRO better. Congrats Turbine and LOTRO!
Aramaeus on 27 Oct '07
Well deserved LOTRO is a great game. Don't knock it unti you have tried it. It's very very good. Well done LOTRO
sawyer1927 on 27 Oct '07
LOTRO is deserving of the award!
Jestor Rodo on 27 Oct '07
OK, Let me start by saying, bin there done that. After playing MMO’s for over 10 years and trying or playing just about every major release from what was UO to EQ to SWG, then WOW and now Lotro. I am happy to see a company that puts in time and effort to “actually” think about game play and content instead of being the next big cookie cutter.

I did the Jedi thing, Did the HWL in wow thing 3 times over, you folks that can’t understand why WoW isn’t game of the year? Obviously can’t look beyond your cookie cutter want-a-be PvP styled MMO. Blizzard has done a excellent job of marketing a Online Game, they have made a game truly with mass appeal, and deserve the “online game of the year”. But if you think that make a PC game of the year, please step off and go back to the World of Farmcraft and stop disrespecting a truly great game.

I couldn't agree more! I played UO from one month after launch and watched it go through some horrific changes that killed the gameplay, then changed back to improve it. Moved on to EQ, SWG, WOW, etc, etc, Even a few mistakes like Earth and Beyond! Embarassed

LOTRO has longevity built in. They've just today brought in houses!!! Yeehaa! THe quests keep expanding, the crafting looked dodgy but actually, the more you get into it, the better it becomes (still a few tweaks needed here). And of course, there's the sheer history of the thing (the books, the movies) which permeates the whole world. Just lovely.

My guess is that there's a definite age thing going on and LOTRO will appeal to the older gamers more...which is just FINE by me!!!! Politeness, helpfulness, fair-minded competitiveness, and genuinely decent conversations. Add in the gameplay, the size, the options, the characters and the diversity of gameply (solo questing, fellowship questing, monster play, consensual PVP, hero/monster PVP) what MORE could you ask for in a game???

AND IT LOOKS AND SOUNDS AMAZING!!!!!!!!! Very Happy

AND YOU CAN BUY A LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP WHICH PAYS FOR ITSELF AFTER ABOUT 18 MONTHS!!!! (Believe me, having done UO for 7 years, I would have LOVED that option!)

IF you have genuinely PLAYED LOTRO and hated it, then I'm really just confused. If you decide to come onto the forums and slag the game off, that's fine...but how about some constructive criticism? Calling a game a "bag of turd" Rolling Eyes is mildly amusing, but what exactly makes you think that's what it is? I know whay I like it...I have no real idea why you loathe it so much.

Long may this game run and run and run.... Laughing
ThePlayerKing on 27 Oct '07
The thing alot of the Griefers are forgetting is that Lord of the Rings Online hasn't even been out for a year. Barely half a year. In this time, they have launched two very big content updates, and have been doing thir best otherwise to weed out bugs, gold sellers, and keep things otherwise running smoothly. They're working hard to cater to all the different types of Gamers out there, lots of quests, rewards for grinding peticular areas/monsters, and specific PvP areas where you can be the bad guys with thier own unique quests too. They also have monthly chats where players can ask things directly to some of the developers, as they try to listen to thier players.

In the end, people will like a game or not. When they don't there are hundreds of other games out there to play. So WoW didn't win this year... Maybe if they try harder, there's next year.
Rini Kurosaki on 27 Oct '07
The big delusion being propagated here is that critics of this decision are 'WoW fanboys'. My own record testifies that I am certainly not. WoW did not deserve to win in the online catagory anymore than LoTR deserved to win anything at all.

No, MMOs are not hard to develop in comparison to any other genre of game, as one poster has tried to claim. Depending on what the core mechanics are, MMOs vary greatly in how difficult they would be to develop. In fact, an MMO will probably be better if it is as easy to develop as possible because then content can be released early and released often to find and fix bugs whilst keeping players secure in the knowledge that the subscription is justified.

Lessons should be learned faster than they are however, LoTR is currently undergoing the release content surge and WoW went through much the same when medium to large patches were averaging at one a month for nine months continiously in 2005. So LoTR should not benefit from an award because it is unlikely the pace will be anywhere near this speed next year.

As a game itself though, there have been far better and more deserving. They were robbed.
Gorgeras on 27 Oct '07
While i love WoW dearly, I must confess that i have been spending more time playing LotRO lately than WoW.
Great graphics and Sound, Some very nice quests and a nice mature community. I found it takes a little longer to get into the WoW but after the first 4 hours it had me hooked.
Well done Turbine, Very well done indeed. A great game all round, No more, No less and worthy of any serious rpg players money.
SteelerWolf on 28 Oct '07
First there was FF11,then WOW, then came RFO, and now we have LotRO. I've played each of them. Every single game is a respective "rip-off" of the previous, and that's because ALL MMO's are almost identical in game play and graphics to a degree. So the difference must lie in the story. FF11's storyline is almost none existent, WOW is pretty good but nothing we haven't heard before in EVERY fantasy story, and now there's LotRo story....you have to be a LotR fan in order to really enjoy it and if you'r not it is still just as interesting as WOW's story. The nice thing about LotRO is that the story is READILY available at ALL times so you are NEVER running around saying "What do I do now?" The amount of quests you get right away is insane and the best part of all is that he game is designed so that you can SOLO OR JOIN A FELLOWSHIP/KINSHIP!! This is a GREAT concept because you no longer have to link up with the idiot White Mages who decide to tank, or some noob that agro's a SECOND mob while you are currently getting your butt beaten by the first. And since LotRO is based off of "BOOKS" the ppl online do seem to be ALOT more mature, but then again the game is still new. I think it's great that LotRO won. I'm sure next year we will all be hear reading the WOW fanboys cry over some other game beating theirs. Very Happy Great Job to the guys at Tourbine!
niglett25 on 28 Oct '07
lol....

thats all i got to say
Feenuk on 28 Oct '07
Shocked

If this is the way the voting works I'm surprised a Harry Potter game didn't win a GoTY FFS!!! As above, I've heard it's good, I'm a huge LOTR fan, but WoW clearly whips it as a PC and MMO Game...

wow, comparing Harry Doofus to LOTRO, that's just plain silly and quite frankly, ignorant. also, you HEARD it's good??? hahaha, are you serious? so you haven't even played it, yet you're SURE that WoW should have beaten it out. tell, us, Guru... how does it "clearly" whip LOTRO as a pc game? don't spout off opinions without supporting them.

i've played several MMOs, including WoW... i think WoW is a great game in it's own right, but it's old and it's stale. Turbine CLEARLY improved many, many things in the MMO genre and created a pretty rock solid game.

so please... do yourself and us a favor and don't come in here telling us you HEARD the game was good or bad. play it before you jump on the bandwagon.
N3uromancer on 29 Oct '07
Does this mean that PC Gamer will actually have to mention LOTRO in the mag next - rather than ignoring it , which is whats happened since the review?????
dermidogg on 29 Oct '07
LOTRSurprised did many things right but also some wrong. The game has no diversity at all, its "pigeonholed" EQ/WoW clone that dumbed down the character creation/customization/playstyle even more and they gave it the GOTY award ??
Darth_Pete on 29 Oct '07
Does this mean that PC Gamer will actually have to mention LOTRO in the mag next - rather than ignoring it , which is whats happened since the review?????

A terrible but populist bland game will rightly be ignored by half respectable game magazines, the same way that Cliff Richard's Millenium Prayer was by radio stations.
Gorgeras on 29 Oct '07
Obviously I would have preferred to see GW:Nightfall as, well, it's just a great game and kept GW rolling ever onwards.

As for LotRO. Well, I'm quite happy about that. It may not have pushed to boundries of the genre but manages to be the only MMORPG from the Ultima Online gene pool that I've played that doesn't rush you into levelling. Sure, there are the usual power players who will mindlessly reach the level cap like a game playing automaton. However, for many players, LotRO has a rather relaxed pace once you're out of the joint starting area. Not only that, but for an MMO, it was very polished upon release.
Aircool_212 on 29 Oct '07
Awesome game that deserves an awesome prize. All of you hopeless critics need to try it. No doubt you would change your minds.

Age of Reckoning is going to be an ASTRONOMICAL success!
Demonslayer on 31 Oct '07
Awesome game that deserves an awesome prize. All of you hopeless critics need to try it. No doubt you would change your minds.

Age of Reckoning is going to be an ASTRONOMICAL success!

I am playing it (Loremaster @ level 43) its nothing special.. just another clone of EQ1&2/WoW just dumbed down more than the games before it.

Quiting once the subs. runs out
Darth_Pete on 31 Oct '07
Good job Turbine, now maybe we can some love on Dungeons and Dragons Onlne as well. Great game and awesome fighting mechanics!!
Eloc on 31 Oct '07
Good job Turbine, now maybe we can some love on Dungeons and Dragons Onlne as well. Great game and awesome fighting mechanics!!

I agree, a very underrated game. A few people were a bit miffed that it didn't stick strictly to the 3.5 rules, but then it would have never worked as a video game.

Combat is amongst the best in any MMO, very fluid and dymanic. It makes a mockery of a 'soon to be released' game that claims to use 'real time combat'.

Still, I can only afford one online sub and that goes to LotRO. Not the most original way to implement an MMO, but definately top of its league.

Just need to shed the old turn/dice/level based mechanic so MMORPG's can move onward.
Aircool_212 on 31 Oct '07
When it comes to RPGs, I go back a long ways. I was a programmer for Sierra Online...working the Kings Quest and Space Quest series back in the 80s while I was in college. So I look at our "modern" games from a little different perspective than most. From a technical view, I am in awe at what today's engines can accomplish, but a game has to find a specific niche to survive. WoW went the cartoon engine route to be able excel at PvP. Why? Because others that tried combining "lifelike" graphics with PvP failed...usually miserably. Shadowbane came real close to pulling it off, but allowing 100s of players in one battle sunk their ship. Seeing the writing on the wall, EQ2 tried the PvP route...and yes...it was terrible. So LOTRO has gone the awesome graphics and soundtrack route. I don't believe you would be able to pull off large scale PvP with LOTRO's set up though.

I still play WoW (4 70s and countless other toons) since I have quite a lot of time and energy invested...it's just hard for me to quit. But I enjoy playing LOTRO much more. I have a real hard time understanding how some folks commented above about WoW's storylines being better than LOTROs. This is where LOTRO excels. WoW has an overarching storyline derived from their PC game beginnings...but you live LOTRO's storyline...all the way to the end. Throw in the maturity level of the LOTRO gamer...and I'm sold.

But in the end, with WoW's 7 to 1 lead in players, you would think they would have easily swamped little old LOTRO in an on-line balloting competition if it was that much better. But remember...it's just my opinion!!!
Williacd on 1 Nov '07
Tbh, my initial reaction was "WTF?", but after thinking about it for 30 seconds then, yeah, I can understand. Mind you, I think without the mass-market appeal of the franchise, STALKER would've cained it. I know I voted for the Ukraine this time out.

Oh well, good work Turbine, hope you can pull it off for Star Trek: Online too (or I'll &*%$ing kill 'ya).
Neurotic on 6 Nov '07
who in their right mind voted that rubbish as PC GOTY

Just curious about this comment and the 2 above you.... Is Pong or WoW your fav game? Not much difference.

If you're into FPS the ONLY one that had a shot was of course Halo from MS and Bungee. I HATE FPS but even though the physics suck the game and story are good.

LotRO has only scored 9.5 to a straight 10 on every game reviewers radar.... What's to talk about? LotRO has held a MORTAL-Lock on GoY in every top gaming site..... It's already done and has been for MONTHS!
courdar on 15 Nov '07
I've played lotro since its release. im currently a leader of the best end game guild in the game. 12 man thorog 2.0 and the 2end guild in the game to beat him.

I've played warcraft for 5 years.


as for lotr being #1 PFFT. quite frankly the game is completly unsatisfying to me i got board of it like the 3erd day of play but stuck with it for the lore then made friends so its hard to leave but i think I'm done.

when the game released they said it was supposed to be an alt for wow a game made for casual players who don't want to play 40 hours a week to complete objectives but since the beginning the game has made 1000 changes to make it just that

resources are extremely rare now and they added a reputation faction very similar to wows


in fact the game becomes more like war craft every day. every patch they add war craft features.

and i dunno wtf they are thinking but they are completely uninterested in creating end game content for players the best you can hope for is a 12 man that you beat in 2 hours and get board of in 3 runs

the servers cant hold many people and they feal dead half the time.

this game is for the very young and very old not for serious mmo players

Excuse me for interputing your Crack-smoking review but have you EVEN played the game? Have you even wasted a few hours standing around and gaining 10 lvls in WoW?

Ass-clown the LotRO servers hold THE largest population EVER in an MMO they are equal to about 10 or 15 little laggy Blizzard Servers you like to waste time on. I AM referring to the MOST populated servers since SOOOOOOOOOOO many of them are completely DEAD!

LotRO Servers are more like the SUPER-MEGA servers MxO tried to bring to the table. Of course as usual Turbine perfected it... AND drastically tuned down the multi-million player population WB and Monolith thought could play on one super-server. But I would guess especially since OUR world is SOOOOO much bigger than WoW-no-Story-Land and it's about 20 times more populated that .....

WoW still has WAY more players than LotRO!
courdar on 15 Nov '07
Hahaha what crap!

Sure LotrO is meant to be ok, but look at it this way:

I'm a huge Lotr fan and play an MMO (WoW) BUT don't want this game. Surely I'm the prime demographic?

Who really voted for this that is a pc gamer?

NO doubt you ARE a prime Demo.

You are the dumb N00B who has never played a REAL MMORPG outside their little protected WoW-n00b-World.

LotRO is for those that dare to take their WoW training wheels off.

If you ever grow up as a gamer you might want to give it a try. Any place else you will be TOAST.
courdar on 15 Nov '07
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