Kaz Hirai has put an end to recent PS3 price cut talk by telling Bloomberg Japan that the firm has absolutely no plans to cut the console's RRP. It's happy with where it's at and we can all move on safely.
The president and Group CEO of the company was referring to all regions (Japan, North America, Europe) saying the reports were nothing more than pure speculation.
If you heard the rumour just as you set off to the shops with £300 burning a hole in your pocket but decided to hang on and see what happens, you can spend at will. Or can you?
Similar rumours have popped up about a 360 price cut too. Is it pure coincidence that all this price cutting chatter is being created in the months leading up to the most important release for both consoles? Is GTA IV really going to be that big a deal for the console manufacturers? Are we blowing this all out of proportion? Is it nearly home time? YES! Your thoughts are welcome below.
While we're on the subject, check back tomorrow evening at 5:30pm (GMT) sharp for a MASSIVE look at GTA IV, including brand new screens.
Can't see any more price cuts for some time now. Sony have already harmed their image with the constant chopping and changes of SKU's and constant price drops, which has put people off buying a PS3 for the time being. What they need now is consistancy and stability. With that in mind I can't see a price drop from either PS3 or 360 until autumn. That will also most likley force Nintendo into a price drop for the Wii.
Your better off getting a 360 or PS3 before the official price cuts, you get a better deal. Play.com has stand alone Elites for £280 and Amazon has standalone PS3s for the same price or if you go into gamestation they do PS3s with a couple of games for £309 and Elites with a couple of games for the same sort of price. Shop around and you'll find a good deal. Before Sony or MS do a bundle forcing you to take games or extras that you don't want.
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Would you like Nintendo to rub suntan oil on your back while MS tells you how sexy you are as well?
So er, where did Sony touch you? Show me on this dolly...
I think a price cut will not be here for some time. Sony are only just starting to make small losses on the ps3 console, so i dont think they will make it worse.
statements like these always seem to precede a price cut.
Except for Sony, who did that song and dance for almost the entire year last year...and then whipped out price cuts when we were least expecting them.
Frankly, Sony isn't in a position to cut the price of their console any more. They were hemorrhaging money last quarter so bad they had to sell off assets (like that insurance firm) to get cash in the coffers.
I'd honestly look for a 360 and a Wii price drop (especially if Microsoft goes below the Wii with their Arcade bundle) before a PS3 drop...
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Hilarious. You should have reached deep into your wallet for:
(a) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games and 2 BR movies at Gamestation when they had a deal on. (b) A 60GB PS3 with 3 free games from Argos when they had a deal on. (c) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games from Amazon when they had a deal on.
All those deals were priced at £350 if I remember rightly. It is a lot of money, but it is funny how people appreciate some depreciable assets once they're gone. I personally went for the Gamestation deal (Argos didn't have all 3 games I wanted in stock at the time). I now own 7 x PS3 titles. I enjoy them all and ignore anyone who says the PS3 has no games.
* You didn't believe the PS3 could sell. * You didn't believe Blu-Ray would win the HD battle against HD-DVD. * You didn't believe the PS3 would ever get to be a lead development platform - let alone see any games released. * You didn't pay any attention to being told that once the 60GB consoles were all gone, so would be PS2 backward compatibility.
Once I made the purchase I never looked back. All the facts you needed to make an informed purchase were there also.
Good luck finding a cheap 60GB machine. You didn't take any risks and he who dares wins. Now, I'm laughing and let the people whine, let them pay!
Come on Wipeout HD you little bugger, come to daddy!
Once I made the purchase I never looked back. All the facts you needed to make an informed purchase were there also.
Good luck finding a cheap 60GB machine. You didn't take any risks and he who dares wins. Now, I'm laughing and let the people whine, let them pay!
Come on Wipeout HD you little bugger, come to daddy!
Well to start with, there were no decent bundles. I can vouch for that as I was looking for a decent one at around late Novemeber. The one's you mention all had crap/average games like Resistance or Motorstorm bundled with them, while what people really wanted was COD4, Assassin's Creed or Uncharted. The only reason to buy a 60GB version was if you were serious about playing PS2 games or if you wanted to buy one to sell for a profit on Ebay. So I'd hardly say you're "laughing" as you paid an extra £80 just to play PS2 games...
Once I made the purchase I never looked back. All the facts you needed to make an informed purchase were there also.
Good luck finding a cheap 60GB machine. You didn't take any risks and he who dares wins. Now, I'm laughing and let the people whine, let them pay!
Come on Wipeout HD you little bugger, come to daddy!
Well to start with, there were no decent bundles. I can vouch for that as I was looking for a decent one at around late Novemeber. The one's you mention all had crap/average games like Resistance or Motorstorm bundled with them, while what people really wanted was COD4, Assassin's Creed or Uncharted. The only reason to buy a 60GB version was if you were serious about playing PS2 games or if you wanted to buy one to sell for a profit on Ebay. So I'd hardly say you're "laughing" as you paid an extra £80 just to play PS2 games...
Oh but I am laughing. Yes, I got Motorstorm and Resistance with the console, I disagree that they are crap or even average. Motorstorm is a really decent challenging game and same goes for Resistance. I also downloaded Gran Turismo HD Concept 2.0 for free, not that I count that as one of the 7 games I purchased, but a nice little side game that I still play.
I also got CoD4 and Assassin's Creed - which weren't even out when I purchased. That PS2 backward compatibility is worth it for me - I never owned a PS2 and it enabled me to go pick up some games I missed so it was a bit like getting 2 consoles for 1 all in one unit.
£80? Ha-ha. The money is there for enjoying. I spent more than that doing the Sydney Harbour bridge climb whilst in Australia over Christmas and I don't get to experience that over and over again!
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Hilarious. You should have reached deep into your wallet for:
(a) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games and 2 BR movies at Gamestation when they had a deal on. (b) A 60GB PS3 with 3 free games from Argos when they had a deal on. (c) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games from Amazon when they had a deal on.
All those deals were priced at £350 if I remember rightly. It is a lot of money, but it is funny how people appreciate some depreciable assets once they're gone. I personally went for the Gamestation deal (Argos didn't have all 3 games I wanted in stock at the time). I now own 7 x PS3 titles. I enjoy them all and ignore anyone who says the PS3 has no games.
* You didn't believe the PS3 could sell. * You didn't believe Blu-Ray would win the HD battle against HD-DVD. * You didn't believe the PS3 would ever get to be a lead development platform - let alone see any games released. * You didn't pay any attention to being told that once the 60GB consoles were all gone, so would be PS2 backward compatibility.
Once I made the purchase I never looked back. All the facts you needed to make an informed purchase were there also.
Good luck finding a cheap 60GB machine. You didn't take any risks and he who dares wins. Now, I'm laughing and let the people whine, let them pay!
Come on Wipeout HD you little bugger, come to daddy!
Very clever, except you missed one small detail:
I didn't mention the desire to buy any PS3 games. The PS3 is a failure as a gaming console, as it doesn't have a a good library of decent games.
Also, while HD-DVD may be going down the drain, Blu-Ray is a very long way from winning any format war. It'll probably go the same way that mini-disc did, after mini-disc killed DCC.
I just want something that'll play my PS2 games, and cheaply play the four Blu-Ray films I'm willing to buy, because I'm too impatient to wait for this to fully resolve.
However, I'm not enough of a sucker to rush out and pay £350 for a crap bundle, just to beat Sony to the punch before they shaft their customers yet again. That would make me a royal idiot.
Also, Boskers, I'm not going to post the full list of evil things that Sony have done to their customers yet again, as it's getting dull. I'll just mention 'David Manning', Extended Copy Protection, "All I want for Xmas is a PSP", and the single reason for Blu-Ray's existence being Sony's desire to stop us buying U.S. movies. I think they say enough.
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Hilarious. You should have reached deep into your wallet for:
(a) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games and 2 BR movies at Gamestation when they had a deal on. (b) A 60GB PS3 with 3 free games from Argos when they had a deal on. (c) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games from Amazon when they had a deal on.
All those deals were priced at £350 if I remember rightly. It is a lot of money, but it is funny how people appreciate some depreciable assets once they're gone. I personally went for the Gamestation deal (Argos didn't have all 3 games I wanted in stock at the time). I now own 7 x PS3 titles. I enjoy them all and ignore anyone who says the PS3 has no games.
* You didn't believe the PS3 could sell. * You didn't believe Blu-Ray would win the HD battle against HD-DVD. * You didn't believe the PS3 would ever get to be a lead development platform - let alone see any games released. * You didn't pay any attention to being told that once the 60GB consoles were all gone, so would be PS2 backward compatibility.
Once I made the purchase I never looked back. All the facts you needed to make an informed purchase were there also.
Good luck finding a cheap 60GB machine. You didn't take any risks and he who dares wins. Now, I'm laughing and let the people whine, let them pay!
Come on Wipeout HD you little bugger, come to daddy!
Very clever, except you missed one small detail:
I didn't mention the desire to buy any PS3 games. The PS3 is a failure as a gaming console, as it doesn't have a a good library of decent games.
Also, while HD-DVD may be going down the drain, Blu-Ray is a very long way from winning any format war. It'll probably go the same way that mini-disc did, after mini-disc killed DCC.
I just want something that'll play my PS2 games, and cheaply play the four Blu-Ray films I'm willing to buy, because I'm too impatient to wait for this to fully resolve.
However, I'm not enough of a sucker to rush out and pay £350 for a crap bundle, just to beat Sony to the punch before they shaft their customers yet again. That would make me a royal idiot.
Also, Boskers, I'm not going to post the full list of evil things that Sony have done to their customers yet again, as it's getting dull. I'll just mention 'David Manning', Extended Copy Protection, "All I want for Xmas is a PSP", and the single reason for Blu-Ray's existence being Sony's desire to stop us buying U.S. movies. I think they say enough.
Ha-ha. OMFG STFU. It's opinions like yours that show why you are a frustrated little anti-PS3 mischief-maker in the PS3 forums. I'll warrant you own a XBox 360 too, did it happen to RROD on you in the last couple of days?
A royal fool you are for not investing at the right time. Now I want to see your little icon buddy dance for me. Go animate!
No, let's be civil, Lord PS3 is entitled to his undoubtedly unbiased opinion. (BOOM BOOM!)
I'm obviously a fool for not rushing out and buying a PS3 for £350 with two games I didn't want, just before Sony removed the PS2 Backwards Compatibility. Which they removed for the single reason of, as they've admitted, trying to force PS3 owners to buy more PS3 games, instead of playing their decent PS2 games.
What an idiot I was for not responding to such stunning customer service by chucking money at them.
Also, I must be an idiot for not realizing I was "in the PS3 forums." Here I was thinking it was the article comments for on CVG. Oops. (Irony.)
No, let's be civil, Lord PS3 is entitled to his undoubtedly unbiased opinion. (BOOM BOOM!)
I'm obviously a fool for not rushing out and buying a PS3 for £350 with two games I didn't want, just before Sony removed the PS2 Backwards Compatibility. Which they removed for the single reason of, as they've admitted, trying to force PS3 owners to buy more PS3 games, instead of playing their decent PS2 games.
What an idiot I was for not responding to such stunning customer service by chucking money at them.
Also, I must be an idiot for not realizing I was "in the PS3 forums." Here I was thinking it was the article comments for on CVG. Oops. (Irony.)
From dictionary.com : Forum = An assembly, meeting place, television program, etc., for the discussion of questions of public interest.
Therefore PS3 forums would be anywhere that PS3 related information is being discussed publicly - just like right here.
You're a complete tool. If you don't want to play PS3 games - fine, why comment about getting a £200 PS3? Buy a PS2, hold on to your money and wait for a cheap Blu-ray player and stop whining to us PS3 owners about it. You have options - exercise them.
Don't say you wouldn't get a PS3 because of the games catalogue. If you bothered to look, you'd see many games are being released for the PS3 and there's plenty lined up in 2008. The PS3 exclusives are looking very good for us PS3 owners who like those titles. If you don't happen to like them, why are you even talking about the PS3 at all? Go to a Blu-ray web site and look for cheap BR players.
If you think of yourself as being so clever, maybe you'd like to make your own Blu-ray device for £200 instead of "chucking money" at Sony.
Yes, that was a pretty weak attempt to convince us that you didn't realize this was the article comments forum, and not the PS3 forums, but we'll let that slide.
From your comments I'll presume you're not aware of all the fuss about Sony's other Blu-Ray players? Yup, a lack of firmware updates and foresight from Sony means that all the early adopters who bought into the tech with a non-PS3 player are now, unsurprisingly, shafted when it comes to playback of certain features.
When it comes to the PS3 games, though, I must admit that there are a couple of titles I wouldn't mind playing that are coming out soon. Metal Gear Solid 4 should be amazing. Oh, except they'll be releasing a superior version of that in early 2009, I think I'll wait for that.
There's a slim chance that Killzone 2 might not suck as much as the first one did, too. I won't hold my breath.
Y'know what? I think I'll give it another 12 months, and see if the PS3's ready to be respected as a real games machine then, because it certainly isn't right now.
I could rush out and buy one, but on the other hand, I could pay a man-whore £300 to take me roughly from behind, without using any lubrication. The end result is gonna be a rough shafting, either way.
I just pity all the poor fools who went out and bought their console on the basis of it's brand-name, instead of it's library of quality games.
Yes, that was a pretty weak attempt to convince us that you didn't realize this was the article comments forum, and not the PS3 forums, but we'll let that slide.
From your comments I'll presume you're not aware of all the fuss about Sony's other Blu-Ray players? Yup, a lack of firmware updates and foresight from Sony means that all the early adopters who bought into the tech with a non-PS3 player are now, unsurprisingly, shafted when it comes to playback of certain features.
When it comes to the PS3 games, though, I must admit that there are a couple of titles I wouldn't mind playing that are coming out soon. Metal Gear Solid 4 should be amazing. Oh, except they'll be releasing a superior version of that in early 2009, I think I'll wait for that.
There's a slim chance that Killzone 2 might not suck as much as the first one did, too. I won't hold my breath.
Y'know what? I think I'll give it another 12 months, and see if the PS3's ready to be respected as a real games machine then, because it certainly isn't right now.
I could rush out and buy one, but on the other hand, I could pay a man-whore £300 to take me roughly from behind, without using any lubrication. The end result is gonna be a rough shafting, either way.
I just pity all the poor fools who went out and bought their console on the basis of it's brand-name, instead of it's library of quality games.
... and I think yours was a weak excuse to try and outwit me with words when it is clear it is your common use of English that needs some scrubbing up. To be quite clear, I don't engage in the areas of CVG that you mention, so bringing this up is rather petty of you Sir.
As for Blu-ray players, I have no doubt that many manufacturers are working on developing Blu-ray players that will be upgradeable from v1.1 to 2. Clearly Blu-ray players are too expensive for you right now anyway as they are > £200. This still doesn't make a good case for you wanting a sub £200 PS3. Either way, you'll have to wait.
I see you mentioned a couple of PS3 games that you're possibly interested in, but then go on to rant further, so I'll leave you to your ranting. It is clear you are drifting from one topic to the next trying to spread FUD on the PS3. Nothing you've said is positive about the PS3 at all, so why do you want one? Why do you bother?
All the fuss you are making is raised by other people who like fuss. It isn't representative of where things are headed, Blu-ray and PS3 have a pretty bright future in the short and longer term. Over 8M people have paid for a PS3, are you calling all of those people "wrong"?
Blu-ray v2 isn't here yet, won't be for a while and Blu-ray players are still expensive today - at the 1.1 standard. If you're waiting for a sub £200 Blu-ray player, then do that. If you're waiting for a sub £200 PS3, then do that... But whilst you're waiting, stop fussing.
To be honest, I couldn't give a damn either which way about the PS3, it's just a tool. I came in and called it as I saw it, with a brief comment on my own personal situation, to met with ridiculous defensive ranting from a PS3 fanboy who goes by the unlikely moniker of 'Lord PS3', who proceeds tells me how wrong I am for not rushing out and buying an over-priced and under-supported console when I get the chance.
Hey, if you're really enjoying owning the most expensive and least supported console of this generation, (so far) then my words won't make a jot of difference to you either way.
You're clearly suffering from a bad case of self-esteem-by-proxy, whereby you've placed an unusual personal stake in your status as a PS3 owner, and thereby feel truly wronged whenever anybody says anything bad about the console, even though it bears no relation to what other people think about you at all. The fact you've named yourself after the console on these boards doesn't do you any favours.
Now, I always go out and buy every console of every generation at some point during it's life, and I've no doubt that I'll be picking up a PS3 one day in the future, when the games are there and the price is right. That time is not now, though.
If that fact personally offends you, then seriously, find yourself something better to identify with than that black plastic box that's under your TV. It's no newsflash to the rest of us that the PS3's in distant third place at the moment, as far as this gaming generation is going, and a lot of Sony's bad choices regarding the machine have upset thousands of gamers.
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Would you like Nintendo to rub suntan oil on your back while MS tells you how sexy you are as well?
So er, where did Sony touch you? Show me on this dolly...
Well sony are arrogant little snooker cues you have to admit. They thought they'd easily win and look how its turned out. You even have to have some delight in the irony.
To be honest, I couldn't give a damn either which way about the PS3, it's just a tool. I came in and called it as I saw it, with a brief comment on my own personal situation, to met with ridiculous defensive ranting from a PS3 fanboy who goes by the unlikely moniker of 'Lord PS3', who proceeds tells me how wrong I am for not rushing out and buying an over-priced and under-supported console when I get the chance.
Hey, if you're really enjoying owning the most expensive and least supported console of this generation, (so far) then my words won't make a jot of difference to you either way.
You're clearly suffering from a bad case of self-esteem-by-proxy, whereby you've placed an unusual personal stake in your status as a PS3 owner, and thereby feel truly wronged whenever anybody says anything bad about the console, even though it bears no relation to what other people think about you at all. The fact you've named yourself after the console on these boards doesn't do you any favours.
Now, I always go out and buy every console of every generation at some point during it's life, and I've no doubt that I'll be picking up a PS3 one day in the future, when the games are there and the price is right. That time is not now, though.
If that fact personally offends you, then seriously, find yourself something better to identify with than that black plastic box that's under your TV. It's no newsflash to the rest of us that the PS3's in distant third place at the moment, as far as this gaming generation is going, and a lot of Sony's bad choices regarding the machine have upset thousands of gamers.
Don't take it so personally, it's just a console.
Nothing you say "offends me". I don't much care for what you say. Trying to label me with having an emotional stake in something I've purchased is fair enough. Perhaps you would like to argue how you don't love your car, mobile, house or anything else you own. Perhaps if I said to you that you live in a rubbish house, that you own a rubbish car and your mobile phone is but a piece of junk, irrespective of how much it all cost you, maybe you *would* get offended - or maybe not.
All you're doing is making it clear you want what you don't have and you are clearly so miffed by that fact, you have to try and put down everything about the PS3 to consolidate and push your views on other people. It is a shame you're so negative about it and it is just too bad you don't own one because you're missing out on what really is a great bit of kit.
SunScramble it's idiots like you that somehow appear at the wrong place at the wrong time. You say things like Lord PS3 don't take it so seriously the PS3 is only a console. Then why rant about it? Be happy you got a 360 and be done ffs.
I own a PS3 and couldn't care less if people buy a 360 or a Wii. I've owned all the previous consoles too, but sticking with my choice in this gen. And happy with my 7 games. You gonna dis me too cos 'you' think I made a bad choice? Screw you. People don't just part with £400 pounds without making considerable research.
The point of discussion here is whether the PS3 should be reduced in price yet. Personally the price is getting more attractive but a cut to £250 would be sweet and also would be nice to see some old games reduced to £20, similar to the platinum range to attract the mass gamers or Wii/360 gamers. And would be nice to see bluray films come down to a price of £14.99. (or compete with new DVD titles)
To be honest, I couldn't give a damn either which way about the PS3, it's just a tool. I came in and called it as I saw it, with a brief comment on my own personal situation, to met with ridiculous defensive ranting from a PS3 fanboy who goes by the unlikely moniker of 'Lord PS3', who proceeds tells me how wrong I am for not rushing out and buying an over-priced and under-supported console when I get the chance.
Hey, if you're really enjoying owning the most expensive and least supported console of this generation, (so far) then my words won't make a jot of difference to you either way.
You're clearly suffering from a bad case of self-esteem-by-proxy, whereby you've placed an unusual personal stake in your status as a PS3 owner, and thereby feel truly wronged whenever anybody says anything bad about the console, even though it bears no relation to what other people think about you at all. The fact you've named yourself after the console on these boards doesn't do you any favours.
Now, I always go out and buy every console of every generation at some point during it's life, and I've no doubt that I'll be picking up a PS3 one day in the future, when the games are there and the price is right. That time is not now, though.
If that fact personally offends you, then seriously, find yourself something better to identify with than that black plastic box that's under your TV. It's no newsflash to the rest of us that the PS3's in distant third place at the moment, as far as this gaming generation is going, and a lot of Sony's bad choices regarding the machine have upset thousands of gamers.
Well sony are arrogant little snooker cues you have to admit. They thought they'd easily win and look how its turned out. You even have to have some delight in the irony.
Surely the PS3 sales boom has only just started... It seems to me that you're the "arrogant little p****".
SunScramble it's idiots like you that somehow appear at the wrong place at the wrong time. You say things like Lord PS3 don't take it so seriously the PS3 is only a console. Then why rant about it? Be happy you got a 360 and be done ffs.
Why bring the Xbox360 into this discussion? I certainly haven't. Feeling a little insecure? Feeling a little defensive? Take everything I said to Lord PS3 in my last post and apply it to yourself, too.
As for your response, Lord PS3, no, I wouldn't be offended if you insulted my possessions. If you bad-mouthed my mother, or called my missus names, then maybe, (just maybe) but as for the rest of it... Well, my main gaming of the last five days has all been done on my battered old GameBoy. (Metroid II ftw.) Fire Away.
No, what upsets me about the PS3 is that I really do want it to be great, but the people who are supposed to be making it great have been c**king it up from the start, and they're no showing any signs of learning from their mistakes. Still, they're following the pattern previously set by Sega and Nintendo to the letter, so no biggie.
If it makes you feel any better, I guarantee that next time around, the PS4 will be highly respected and have great games, but won't sell, the XBox720 will be hated, and will only sell to rabid MS fanboys, and the Nintendo JoyPoo will conquer the entire world six times over through it's amazing third-party support.
SunScramble it's idiots like you that somehow appear at the wrong place at the wrong time. You say things like Lord PS3 don't take it so seriously the PS3 is only a console. Then why rant about it? Be happy you got a 360 and be done ffs.
Why bring the Xbox360 into this discussion? I certainly haven't. Feeling a little insecure? Feeling a little defensive? Take everything I said to Lord PS3 in my last post and apply it to yourself, too.
As for your response, Lord PS3, no, I wouldn't be offended if you insulted my possessions. If you bad-mouthed my mother, or called my missus names, then maybe, (just maybe) but as for the rest of it... Well, my main gaming of the last five days has all been done on my battered old GameBoy. (Metroid II ftw.) Fire Away.
No, what upsets me about the PS3 is that I really do want it to be great, but the people who are supposed to be making it great have been c**king it up from the start, and they're no showing any signs of learning from their mistakes. Still, they're following the pattern previously set by Sega and Nintendo to the letter, so no biggie.
If it makes you feel any better, I guarantee that next time around, the PS4 will be highly respected and have great games, but won't sell, the XBox720 will be hated, and will only sell to rabid MS fanboys, and the Nintendo JoyPoo will conquer the entire world six times over through it's amazing third-party support.
There's nothing wrong with the PS3. It is doing just fine with:
* Its current 8M+ owners world-wide that is increasing every week. * A current and increasingly interesting games catalogue. * Blu-ray as the leading HD media brand with full 1080p HDMI support. * Built in HDD and wireless controller. * Free online gaming (Resistance 2 at 60 players), free demo and trailer downloads with your PSN access. * USB and Wi-fi connectivity, a web browser and the ability to install and run Linux and so other PC applications.
I think that is all at a pretty respectful price at £300, £280, or for however cheap you can get one. A 360 doesn't offer all that for less. A Wii is not even intended to compete. An iMac mini or PC capable of doing all that stuff would likely cost a lot more. How is the PS3 a bad deal? I fail to see your logic, it just sounds like ranting to me - probably because you can't justify the cost to "your missus".
That's some great speculation there about the following generation. I hope you don't have to wait for a price cut next time to justify your purchase(s). Stay ranty!
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Hilarious. You should have reached deep into your wallet for:
(a) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games and 2 BR movies at Gamestation when they had a deal on. (b) A 60GB PS3 with 3 free games from Argos when they had a deal on. (c) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games from Amazon when they had a deal on.
All those deals were priced at £350 if I remember rightly. It is a lot of money, but it is funny how people appreciate some depreciable assets once they're gone. I personally went for the Gamestation deal (Argos didn't have all 3 games I wanted in stock at the time). I now own 7 x PS3 titles. I enjoy them all and ignore anyone who says the PS3 has no games.
* You didn't believe the PS3 could sell. * You didn't believe Blu-Ray would win the HD battle against HD-DVD. * You didn't believe the PS3 would ever get to be a lead development platform - let alone see any games released. * You didn't pay any attention to being told that once the 60GB consoles were all gone, so would be PS2 backward compatibility.
Once I made the purchase I never looked back. All the facts you needed to make an informed purchase were there also.
Good luck finding a cheap 60GB machine. You didn't take any risks and he who dares wins. Now, I'm laughing and let the people whine, let them pay!
Come on Wipeout HD you little bugger, come to daddy!
i have a ps3 on the way for free courtesy of aol (wipeout made me do this devils deed) ...wouldnt have got a ps3 any other way....yet i got a 360 on launch and i am a lot more pleased than you could be be with owning a ps3... i bought my 360 machine for gaming and what a gaming machine its proved to be.... when my ps3 arrives it will sit in the corner and be the runt of the litter (i already have the other 2).... it plays a handful of exclusives and blu ray movies which i couldnt care a toss about...dunno about you but i 'BUY' gaming consoles for gaming...im selling the game i get with it still sealed (ratchet and clank) so i can get a proper game to play on it from yonder shores (ut3)..... i dont subscribe to either hd film format yet nor do i intend to for the next 5 years (same as rest of joe public), but im still looking forward to playing ut3.....drakes fortune sucks ass as does resistance...
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Hilarious. You should have reached deep into your wallet for:
(a) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games and 2 BR movies at Gamestation when they had a deal on. (b) A 60GB PS3 with 3 free games from Argos when they had a deal on. (c) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games from Amazon when they had a deal on.
All those deals were priced at £350 if I remember rightly. It is a lot of money, but it is funny how people appreciate some depreciable assets once they're gone. I personally went for the Gamestation deal (Argos didn't have all 3 games I wanted in stock at the time). I now own 7 x PS3 titles. I enjoy them all and ignore anyone who says the PS3 has no games.
* You didn't believe the PS3 could sell. * You didn't believe Blu-Ray would win the HD battle against HD-DVD. * You didn't believe the PS3 would ever get to be a lead development platform - let alone see any games released. * You didn't pay any attention to being told that once the 60GB consoles were all gone, so would be PS2 backward compatibility.
Once I made the purchase I never looked back. All the facts you needed to make an informed purchase were there also.
Good luck finding a cheap 60GB machine. You didn't take any risks and he who dares wins. Now, I'm laughing and let the people whine, let them pay!
Come on Wipeout HD you little bugger, come to daddy!
i have a ps3 on the way for free courtesy of aol (wipeout made me do this devils deed) ...wouldnt have got a ps3 any other way....yet i got a 360 on launch and i am a lot more pleased than you could be be with owning a ps3... i bought my 360 machine for gaming and what a gaming machine its proved to be.... when my ps3 arrives it will sit in the corner and be the runt of the litter (i already have the other 2).... it plays a handful of exclusives and blu ray movies which i couldnt care a toss about...dunno about you but i 'BUY' gaming consoles for gaming...im selling the game i get with it still sealed (ratchet and clank) so i can get a proper game to play on it from yonder shores (ut3)..... i dont subscribe to either hd film format yet nor do i intend to for the next 5 years (same as rest of joe public), but im still looking forward to playing ut3.....drakes fortune sucks ass as does resistance...
You don't care about PS3 exclusives, yet you do care about Wipeout HD? Sounds like your wires are crossed somewhere. I find it funny how you're slating games when you haven't even got your PS3 yet. Maybe you'll change your mind over the course of 2008 about all the rest.
Well sony are arrogant little snooker cues you have to admit. They thought they'd easily win and look how its turned out. You even have to have some delight in the irony.
Surely the PS3 sales boom has only just started... It seems to me that you're the "arrogant little p****".
They treat they're fans like s**te and now ur praising them. I mean that there workers keep coming out with snobbish remarks. And don't call me an arrogant little snooker cue when all i said is that sony deserve a little presure on them then an easy ride. Dickhead
Well sony are arrogant little snooker cues you have to admit. They thought they'd easily win and look how its turned out. You even have to have some delight in the irony.
Surely the PS3 sales boom has only just started... It seems to me that you're the "arrogant little p****".
They treat they're fans like s**te and now ur praising them. I mean that there workers keep coming out with snobbish remarks. And don't call me an arrogant little snooker cue when all i said is that sony deserve a little presure on them then an easy ride. Dickhead
Well sony are arrogant little snooker cues you have to admit. They thought they'd easily win and look how its turned out. You even have to have some delight in the irony.
Surely the PS3 sales boom has only just started... It seems to me that you're the "arrogant little p****".
They treat they're fans like s**te and now ur praising them. I mean that there workers keep coming out with snobbish remarks. And don't call me an arrogant little snooker cue when all i said is that sony deserve a little presure on them then an easy ride. Dickhead
There's nothing wrong with the PS3. It is doing just fine with:
* Its current 8M+ owners world-wide that is increasing every week.
I thought that analysts had estimated PS3 sales for Sony's year end (March 31) would be 8 million PS3's not that it had actually reached 8 million PS3 owners yet.
Well sony are arrogant little snooker cues you have to admit. They thought they'd easily win and look how its turned out. You even have to have some delight in the irony.
Surely the PS3 sales boom has only just started... It seems to me that you're the "arrogant little p****".
They treat they're fans like s**te and now ur praising them. I mean that there workers keep coming out with snobbish remarks. And don't call me an arrogant little snooker cue when all i said is that sony deserve a little presure on them then an easy ride. Dickhead
Idiot.
Wow. You really are something else arent you? I can honestly say that I have never came across a more devoted follower of a brand or company than yourself. "Sony are Gods and I worship before them, YOU are not worthy to purchase there console"
Its quite amusing though, so keep it up. Its funny to watch a Sony employee come on here and go crazy, well, at least your getting paid for it.
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Would you like Nintendo to rub suntan oil on your back while MS tells you how sexy you are as well?
So er, where did Sony touch you? Show me on this dolly...
Well sony are arrogant little snooker cues you have to admit. They thought they'd easily win and look how its turned out. You even have to have some delight in the irony.
I know, they all are... all they want is to dominate and take as much cash as possible - Nintendo with their happy clappy "we're making people smile" crap and MS' frankly scary plan to dominate the entire planet...
I just think Sony bashing is old, these days... I mean look at this thread, it's like a cunning game of chess taking place before our very eyes, with sharp minds clashing mental swords together and sparks of violence and awe splashing forth onto the plateau of this plane we call videogames.
I'm surprised someone hasn't called another "poo face", yet.
Shame. If they could get the bugger down to £200, and get that PS2 backwards compatibility stuck back in there, I'd go get me a PS3 and a stack of Blu-Ray movies right now.
That's coming from somebody who thinks that Sony are the tools of the devil, and that all PS3 owners are easily lead saps that'd buy anything that had a decent advertising budget behind it.
Hilarious. You should have reached deep into your wallet for:
(a) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games and 2 BR movies at Gamestation when they had a deal on. (b) A 60GB PS3 with 3 free games from Argos when they had a deal on. (c) A 60GB PS3 with 2 free games from Amazon when they had a deal on.
All those deals were priced at £350 if I remember rightly. It is a lot of money, but it is funny how people appreciate some depreciable assets once they're gone. I personally went for the Gamestation deal (Argos didn't have all 3 games I wanted in stock at the time). I now own 7 x PS3 titles. I enjoy them all and ignore anyone who says the PS3 has no games.
* You didn't believe the PS3 could sell. * You didn't believe Blu-Ray would win the HD battle against HD-DVD. * You didn't believe the PS3 would ever get to be a lead development platform - let alone see any games released. * You didn't pay any attention to being told that once the 60GB consoles were all gone, so would be PS2 backward compatibility.
Once I made the purchase I never looked back. All the facts you needed to make an informed purchase were there also.
Good luck finding a cheap 60GB machine. You didn't take any risks and he who dares wins. Now, I'm laughing and let the people whine, let them pay!
Come on Wipeout HD you little bugger, come to daddy!
i have a ps3 on the way for free courtesy of aol (wipeout made me do this devils deed) ...wouldnt have got a ps3 any other way....yet i got a 360 on launch and i am a lot more pleased than you could be be with owning a ps3... i bought my 360 machine for gaming and what a gaming machine its proved to be.... when my ps3 arrives it will sit in the corner and be the runt of the litter (i already have the other 2).... it plays a handful of exclusives and blu ray movies which i couldnt care a toss about...dunno about you but i 'BUY' gaming consoles for gaming...im selling the game i get with it still sealed (ratchet and clank) so i can get a proper game to play on it from yonder shores (ut3)..... i dont subscribe to either hd film format yet nor do i intend to for the next 5 years (same as rest of joe public), but im still looking forward to playing ut3.....drakes fortune sucks ass as does resistance...
You don't care about PS3 exclusives, yet you do care about Wipeout HD? Sounds like your wires are crossed somewhere. I find it funny how you're slating games when you haven't even got your PS3 yet. Maybe you'll change your mind over the course of 2008 about all the rest.
wipeout hd is an exception to the rule, and drakes fortune, ratchet and clank and resistance i have played on my mates ps3 and you can quote me as saying i think theyre all s**te clever-b******s
I don't usually read through flame fests of this stature but the tussle between Sunscramble and Lord PS3 has been most entertaining, keep it up gents! LOL
I don't usually read through flame fests of this stature but the tussle between Sunscramble and Lord PS3 has been most entertaining, keep it up gents! LOL
I know, they all are... all they want is to dominate and take as much cash as possible - Nintendo with their happy clappy "we're making people smile" crap and MS' frankly scary plan to dominate the entire planet...
I just think Sony bashing is old, these days... I mean look at this thread, it's like a cunning game of chess taking place before our very eyes, with sharp minds clashing mental swords together and sparks of violence and awe splashing forth onto the plateau of this plane we call videogames.
I'm surprised someone hasn't called another "poo face", yet.
Yes, it's true that all the big gaming companies are only out for our money, which is why you'll never see me defending any of them. In fact, Nintendo used to be twice as evil, with their price-fixing and severe mistreatment of Europe in the 80's and 90's, and although MS setting aside a billion dollars to make up for their substandard hardware buys them a little goodwill, it would have been better if they'd got it right first time around. Let's not even talk about Vista, either.
You have to admit, though, that there's no defending a lot of the screw-ups and severe PR blunders that Sony have made this generation, and that most of these have been made at the direct expense of their own customers.
That these same people will still defend them seems... masochistic, at best. Hopefully next time around, they'll try and make their big money by offering a great videogaming experience, and not by a series of high-risk high-cost gambles on the power of their brand-name and creating pointless consumer-harming movie format wars.
I don't usually read through flame fests of this stature but the tussle between Sunscramble and Lord PS3 has been most entertaining, keep it up gents! LOL
I can't help it. The tears of PS3 owners is the nectar that sustains me, and gently trolling their threads is the best way to milk it from them.
Besides, it should be quite clear to anybody who's not emotionally invested in these 'console wars' that only one person is arguing from a place of reason, while the other frequently resorts to petty name-calling, quoting meaningless statistics, and false smugness at his own perceived victory.
Ahhhh, Road Avenger on the MegaCD, what a fine, fine game that is. It's a shame that those "interactive movie" games never took of in a big way, as the PS3 would surely be the king of all consoles as far as they were concerned!
Why does every article on Sony have to turn into pages & pages of bitching. Grow up. All these companies are out for your cash - thats all.
Of course all businesses want to profit. I don't see Nintendo dropping the price of the Wii. Why should they? Every teenager, mother and grandma desperately wants one and is willing to pay over the odds to have one with games bundles they don't want! Why, because it is fun, or just because everyone else has one?
People commenting on these pages just seem to be consistently angry at Sony for releasing a technically superior and more expensive to build piece of hardware. Of course it must come in at a higher price until the parts are cheap enough to bring the RRP down.
Microsoft incurred a loss on the 360 for yr 1 & 2 - but still charged way over the odds for fairly necessary accessory hardware such as a HDD and memory cards.
If you want to argue that you don't need a HDD, don't need wi-fi, don't need wireless controllers, HDMI, etc, then why not get a Wii instead of a 360? ... or wait for the PS3 and get all that stuff included?
Stop slating the PS3. Stop slating the price. Stop slating the games catalogue. Stop slating Blu-ray. People haven't just stopped buying hardware last time I looked, the PS3 is making good progress and there is still time to change people's minds.
Save up, be patient and wait, but don't slate something you'd actually enjoy owning. Not being able to afford a PS3 today is not a good reason to go buy a 360 and then rant about the PS3's price, followed by making a feeble case for why PGR4 or Forza 2 > Gran Turismo 5. Those of us playing GT5P will just laugh.
If 200M PS2's were really sold last-gen, then todays 17M 360's, 19M Wii's and 8M PS3's still leaves a lot of potential buyers out there. Even if it was 120M - there's still a lot of sales to go and many people will have more than one console. All you muppets who say "look how it turned out" - it isn't over, so how can you make such comments? I think Nintendo will ship the most units only if they can build enough, but it doesn't enable Blu-ray or hi-def gaming and a lot of people are - or will be keen on that. For those of you who look at the news, retailers such as Curry's have stopped selling analogue TV's, so most people in the next year or so looking for a new TV will get a HDTV and maybe they could be tempted to get a device to play Blu-ray's and HD games.
The gap in PS3 to 360 sales is already shrinking. The PS3 has a strong future in 2008 with Blu-ray and AAA titles. If Sony do happen to drop the PS3's price sooner rather than later, I can only see that will accelerate PS3 sales.
Slating the PS3 just seems to be a fashionable thing to do for you idiots. You don't like Sony because "Sony are arrogant". That's just the same stupid bias you probably label every company with at some point or another.
If anyone here doesn't think Microsoft are arrogant: Search on Vista, search on Zune, DRM or any Microsoft "product". Would you say they are cheap and don't attempt to lock you in to them as a vendor? Microsoft are no different to Sony or any Corporate.
That doesn't mean you should pick on Sony in particular. The PS3's architecture is far more open to interoperability with other hardware and software than the 360 or Wii.
I don't usually read through flame fests of this stature but the tussle between Sunscramble and Lord PS3 has been most entertaining, keep it up gents! LOL
I can't help it. The tears of PS3 owners is the nectar that sustains me, and gently trolling their threads is the best way to milk it from them.
Besides, it should be quite clear to anybody who's not emotionally invested in these 'console wars' that only one person is arguing from a place of reason, while the other frequently resorts to petty name-calling, quoting meaningless statistics, and false smugness at his own perceived victory.
Ahhhh, Road Avenger on the MegaCD, what a fine, fine game that is. It's a shame that those "interactive movie" games never took of in a big way, as the PS3 would surely be the king of all consoles as far as they were concerned!
/muhahahahah
I expect you bought a MegaCD then, seeing as you "buy every console that comes out sooner or later".
Whether or not I'm the first or last person to say it but... What a waste of money. I'm only surprised you're not *still* crying tears for Sega.
Ahhhh, Road Avenger on the MegaCD, what a fine, fine game that is. It's a shame that those "interactive movie" games never took of in a big way, as the PS3 would surely be the king of all consoles as far as they were concerned!
/muhahahahah
I expect you bought a MegaCD then, seeing as you "buy every console that comes out sooner or later".
Whether or not I'm the first or last person to say it but... What a waste of money. I'm only surprised you're not *still* crying tears for Sega.
Come, come. You're clutching at straws. Sega's commercial suicide as a hardware manufacturer has been well documented. Obviously Sony didn't read up on it, as they're making a lot of very similar mistakes...
And your continual referral to the avatar I'm using would be cutting, were it not for the fact that you seem unaware of the irony concerning it's usage, or who the character depicted is.
The PS3 does indeed have excellent tech and specs and I'm sure, in time, devs will make some really quality titles for it.
As an owner of several consoles covering the 3 major players I couldn't recommend a PS3 as the console of choice to a gamer (someone who only wants to play games). ..and the controller is still rubbish, and yes i do have one but the 360 pad is the best I have ever used.
The shock to the system Sony must have felt when it's console didn't fly off the shelves will serve them well in the long run, make them listen to what people want rather than what they think people should have. In 5 years time I reckon the PS3 will have the largest install base but Sony would have learnt a valuable lesson, success is not a sure thing.
Not being able to afford a PS3 today is not a good reason to go buy a 360 and then rant about the PS3's price, followed by making a feeble case for why PGR4 or Forza 2 > Gran Turismo 5. Those of us playing GT5P will just laugh.
You were making some good points until you got there. Which game is better has been and will always be a matter of opinion. You can't just state it as fact. I think Forza sucks for instance but many don't and I prefer PGR to GT in general but doesn't mean GT5 is nonsense as I'm getting a copy for myself and it's a good game.
Please don't go by sales either, just because a game sells well does not make it a good title (mario & Sonic at the olympics and Brain Training comes up in my immediate thoughts).
Yes, it's true that all the big gaming companies are only out for our money, which is why you'll never see me defending any of them. In fact, Nintendo used to be twice as evil, with their price-fixing and severe mistreatment of Europe in the 80's and 90's, and although MS setting aside a billion dollars to make up for their substandard hardware buys them a little goodwill, it would have been better if they'd got it right first time around. Let's not even talk about Vista, either.
You have to admit, though, that there's no defending a lot of the screw-ups and severe PR blunders that Sony have made this generation, and that most of these have been made at the direct expense of their own customers.
That these same people will still defend them seems... masochistic, at best. Hopefully next time around, they'll try and make their big money by offering a great videogaming experience, and not by a series of high-risk high-cost gambles on the power of their brand-name and creating pointless consumer-harming movie format wars.
I agree with you on the point that I haven't seen you defend a single company (yet). In fact, all you ever seem do is slate companies. If you hate them all so much, why do you buy every games console that's released? I thought you said you don't like "chucking money" at them?
If the console manufacturers played it your way, they wouldn't bother making anything for fear of rebuke. I suppose then, you'd start arguing about whether people should be playing "tag", "40-40", "naughts and crosses" or "hop-scotch".
Your opinions are as useful as two short planks in a canyon and your rebukes are as sharp as a wiper blade. A right pair of 2 hats if I ever wore one.
The reason I won't defend them is that it's all about the games, baby. I'll buy what I need to play the games I feel are worth playing.
The only caveat to that rule is that I've gotta feel like I'm getting at least half-decent value for money when I spend on hardware. I could easily afford to go out and grab a PS3 off the shelves right now, and if the games were there, I probably would.
As it stands, though, I'm getting back to my initial point. Without a decent library of games to back it up, the only interest the console has to me, personally, is as a future-proofed Blu-Ray player, and as a replacement to my dusty old PS2. But not at it's current price point.
At least with the PS3, you know what you are getting. Buying a 360 is like playing the lottery. "Will it be one with HDMI? Will it be one with the new cooler motherboard? Will it be one with the quieter DVD drive?" Christ the 360 is messed up LOL
At least with the PS3, you know what you are getting. Buying a 360 is like playing the lottery. "Will it be one with HDMI? Will it be one with the new cooler motherboard? Will it be one with the quieter DVD drive?" Christ the 360 is messed up LOL
at least you know theres a good large selection of games to choose from with the 360
Yeah well excuse me if I don't believe what Sony has to say they have an excellent track record for BS.
Also a few posts have mentioned the PS3 sales figures now can someone tell me how many of those PS3's were purchased for games and how many were purchased jut for the cheap blu-ray player.
This in my mind is Sony's problem that the games attach rate is borked due to people only using the blu-ray player for movies.
So if 60% were bought as the cheaper alternative to stand alone blu-ray players that leaves 3,200,000 (roughly) that bought it for games.
Anyway I hope the PS3's game lineup improves for my personal choice on games as I will be getting one soon ( I have had access to my brothers PS3) and drakes fortune is the only game released so far that I can say I want.
At least with the PS3, you know what you are getting. Buying a 360 is like playing the lottery. "Will it be one with HDMI? Will it be one with the new cooler motherboard? Will it be one with the quieter DVD drive?" Christ the 360 is messed up LOL
Yeah good point except people also wonder what they get with a PS3 = "is it 40 or 60GB?", "is it BC?", "is it a games console or a blu-ray player?", "is it justa media hub", "does the controler have rumble" etc
The reason I won't defend them is that it's all about the games, baby. I'll buy what I need to play the games I feel are worth playing.
The only caveat to that rule is that I've gotta feel like I'm getting at least half-decent value for money when I spend on hardware. I could easily afford to go out and grab a PS3 off the shelves right now, and if the games were there, I probably would.
As it stands, though, I'm getting back to my initial point. Without a decent library of games to back it up, the only interest the console has to me, personally, is as a future-proofed Blu-Ray player, and as a replacement to my dusty old PS2. But not at it's current price point.
...and we've come full circle.
If you bought a console for games - as you just said, then the very fact you're writing off the PS3 indicates you are writing off Sony's own games as well as other PS3 exclusives. You'll miss out on MGS4, Gran Turismo 5, Wipeout HD, Little Big Planet, the next Final Fantasy, Tekken 6, God of War 3, a version of Crysis that will likely run better on the PS3 than on most people's PC's and a whole load of other up and coming titles besides - many of them now developed first on a PS3 and ported to the 360.
Add to that the stuff that is out now, or has been for a while like Warhawk, Ridge Racer 7, Call of Duty 4, Assassin's Creed, Motorstorm, Resistance and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Maybe you don't like any of those games? Maybe you hate them all? Maybe you do only want a Blu-ray player and a PS2, in which case go buy that, ignore the PS3 and leave those of us who are interested in the PS3 to get on with it without having to put up with your rubbish. Thank God you don't speak for everyone.
The point EvilFoxHound makes about the 360 being a bit of a lottery is a valid one. How much time and money are you willing to spend purchasing the same console and sending it back until you decide to buy another new one to replace the other's that broke? If as of now I can get many of the same games on a PS3 as the 360 and there's a 99% chance that the PS3 console won't break, compared to a 70% on the 360, I'd rather have the one that doesn't break thanks very much.
You have to admit, though, that there's no defending a lot of the screw-ups and severe PR blunders that Sony have made this generation, and that most of these have been made at the direct expense of their own customers.
Absolutely! They lied about game footage being in-game, foisted a disc format onto a games device knowing it had a strong following and for some reason, have grown an bottomhole for a mouth judging by the ton of crap they've spewed with pointless and frankly baffling statements, but I can't agree with the last part of that post because Sony aren't forcing anyone to buy one.
I won't until I think it's worth it, personally; the same reason I haven't bought a Wii yet and the same reason I didn't buy a 360 until a year and half after launch.
Sony-whipping is an addiction, I think... and it got boring about this time last year. Now it's just mental.
We're still going in circles here. I've already said that I might consider a PS3 when the games are there, so what's the point of mentioning all those games that don't exist yet?
As for the games that are already there... Well, Ninja Gaiden Sigma's a high-def remake of an Xbox title that's had most of the bonus features stripped out. Pointless. CoD4 and Assassin's Creed are both out on competing formats, and I've finished 'em already.
The only other one which looks interesting is Warhawk, but I'm quite wary of a game that's had it's single-player content scrapped in development for being not very good. As a download-only multiplayer blaster it could be a lot of fun, but it's not the sort of thing that's gonna single-handedly carry a £300 system for the next six months.
The only titles from there that really excite me are the re-release of MGS4 we'll see in 2009, and Little Big Planet, but that's a great big question mark at the moment.
The reason I won't defend them is that it's all about the games, baby. I'll buy what I need to play the games I feel are worth playing.
The only caveat to that rule is that I've gotta feel like I'm getting at least half-decent value for money when I spend on hardware. I could easily afford to go out and grab a PS3 off the shelves right now, and if the games were there, I probably would.
As it stands, though, I'm getting back to my initial point. Without a decent library of games to back it up, the only interest the console has to me, personally, is as a future-proofed Blu-Ray player, and as a replacement to my dusty old PS2. But not at it's current price point.
...and we've come full circle.
If you bought a console for games - as you just said, then the very fact you're writing off the PS3 indicates you are writing off Sony's own games as well as other PS3 exclusives. You'll miss out on MGS4, Gran Turismo 5, Wipeout HD, Little Big Planet, the next Final Fantasy, Tekken 6, God of War 3, a version of Crysis that will likely run better on the PS3 than on most people's PC's and a whole load of other up and coming titles besides - many of them now developed first on a PS3 and ported to the 360.
Add to that the stuff that is out now, or has been for a while like Warhawk, Ridge Racer 7, Call of Duty 4, Assassin's Creed, Motorstorm, Resistance and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Maybe you don't like any of those games? Maybe you hate them all? Maybe you do only want a Blu-ray player and a PS2, in which case go buy that, ignore the PS3 and leave those of us who are interested in the PS3 to get on with it without having to put up with your rubbish. Thank God you don't speak for everyone.
The point EvilFoxHound makes about the 360 being a bit of a lottery is a valid one. How much time and money are you willing to spend purchasing the same console and sending it back until you decide to buy another new one to replace the other's that broke? If as of now I can get many of the same games on a PS3 as the 360 and there's a 99% chance that the PS3 console won't break, compared to a 70% on the 360, I'd rather have the one that doesn't break thanks very much.
So all sequels then (none of which I will own when I get my PS3).Thats the problem for me with Sony's game line up so far too many sequels not enough new IP's the machine itself is an impressive piece of kit but the games suck harder than a high class hooker in my opinion.
Also seeing as Crysis so far hasn't been confirmed for any console yet thats jumping the gun a bit isn't it? Crysis is an average FPS at best so it would be another title I wouldn't care to buy for either PS3 or the 360.
Yes I also agree the 360 is a lottery my brother has had his since day one no problems I'm on number 4 but it is still a good machine with some blinding games in my opinion, it's just a shame it's less reliable than a train timetable.
We're still going in circles here. I've already said that I might consider a PS3 when the games are there, so what's the point of mentioning all those games that don't exist yet?
As for the games that are already there... Well, Ninja Gaiden Sigma's a high-def remake of an Xbox title that's had most of the bonus features stripped out. Pointless. CoD4 and Assassin's Creed are both out on competing formats, and I've finished 'em already.
The only other one which looks interesting is Warhawk, but I'm quite wary of a game that's had it's single-player content scrapped in development for being not very good. As a download-only multiplayer blaster it could be a lot of fun, but it's not the sort of thing that's gonna single-handedly carry a £300 system for the next six months.
The only titles from there that really excite me are the re-release of MGS4 we'll see in 2009, and Little Big Planet, but that's a great big question mark at the moment.
To each their own - I like Ninja Gaiden Sigma as I'm sure do a lot of people. Not sure what score CVG gave it, but I'll warrant it was pretty good.
Warhawk is brilliant and I have spent many hours playing that one. The point that you make about it being multi-player only is - in a rather twisted way - what makes it such a great game. As you are so unwilling to purchase at this point in time, I'd recommend you find somewhere to try it out. By the way, it isn't download only - I bought it on Blu-ray with a headset.
Sony have never really cut the price of PS3 anyway just released cut down versions of the same console at a cheaper price now if they had kept the 60gb & dropped the price from £425 to £299 then I would consider that a legit price drop, not when a cheaper price comes at the expense of losing some of the features from the console.
I see Lordps3 making the point about the 360 lottery I remind everyone here that every piece of eletronic equipment there is a possible chance that it will break down, yes the 360 has had reliability issues but I have known people that have had faulty Wii's & PS3's also.
And by not buying a 360 you are missing out on some of the best console games money can buy that you simply cannot get on PS3, PGR4, Halo 3, Mass effect, Ace combat 6, Gears of war, & potentially excellent games like Halo wars, Alan wake, Banjo 3, Too human just to name a few.
The version of Crysis you speak of will in all likely hood be a multi format release anyway I cant see EA not releasing a 360 version at all & losing out on the cash it would make for them.
You have to admit, though, that there's no defending a lot of the screw-ups and severe PR blunders that Sony have made this generation, and that most of these have been made at the direct expense of their own customers.
Absolutely! They lied about game footage being in-game, foisted a disc format onto a games device knowing it had a strong following and for some reason, have grown an bottomhole for a mouth judging by the ton of crap they've spewed with pointless and frankly baffling statements, but I can't agree with the last part of that post because Sony aren't forcing anyone to buy one.
I won't until I think it's worth it, personally; the same reason I haven't bought a Wii yet and the same reason I didn't buy a 360 until a year and half after launch.
Sony-whipping is an addiction, I think... and it got boring about this time last year. Now it's just mental.
There is plenty of reasons to buy a Wii now though bosker, Mario galaxy, Super paper mario, Metroid prime 3, RE umbrella chronicles, RE 4, Zelda, & with Smash bros, PES 08, Mario kart, Samba de amigo just a few great titles that are still to arrive there are plenty of reasons to get one.
Lol. SunScramble is just a fool! He's just winding you up LordPS3. It's clear the guy hates Sony and loves M$ not even allowing a tiny bit of indifference. He 'must be right' cos 9 million PS3 owners in a space of one year must have made the wrong decision regardless of negative publicity (in the beginning) and some negative feedback in the early days in forums. So if you unlucky 9 million PS3 owners hate your PS3 right now, please give it up and go swap for a 360/Wii! (unless you're lucky to own one already). But to be honest in the last month or so it's quite clear that Sony are trying their damn hardest to woo back customers (they did fakk up at the beginning). And if my memory serves properly, COD4, Oblivion, Burnout and Dirt all run slightly or more smoother on PS3? Can send u url links from reviews if you wanna?
Why defend a PS3? It's plain and simple... It's a damn good machine and it's fun to choose to a side (ie. if you can't afford every console on the planet!). It's like footie, you think Liverpool are better than Chelsea... blah, blah, blah. At least compared to 360 it's 100% reliable (for now), free online service, you don't have to purchase wi-fi adaptor, winning blu ray hi-def platform (hd-dvd soon to be extinct and trust me 'most' bluray films do look better than upscaled DVD when transferred properly), games aren't limited by disk space, upscales DVDs, HDMI as standard and lastly.... this I why I choose a playstation brand... creative expression over the next few years. What other company introduced Singstar, DDR, eyetoy, ICO, buzz and many other original IPs? Girls love Singstar, DDR btw However Wii ftw with girls!
Can't believe I just wasted 10mins wasting my time when I just remembered an old saying 'you can't argue with a fool!' SunScramble I salute you but don't be so defensive.
Ninja Gaiden Sigma got a good CVG review - 9 / 10. Ridge Racer 7 got an - 8 / 10. Warhawk scored - 9 / 10. Motorstorm scored - 8.4 / 10. Resistance - 8 / 10. NBA 2K8 - 8.5 / 10 on gamespot (couldn't find CVG review). It also looks like CVG like Burnout Paradise - 8.9 / 10
Search for yourselves instead of whining about the lack of games. Maybe the PS3 did have a lack of titles in the past, but that's all changing.
Look at other sites for scores. I've just gone through some titles and there are a lot more out now and more coming.
*looks at level of research* Wow the lengths gone for a piece of plastic *walks backwards slowly towards door*
Time to do research = 2 minutes. Time to write post = 2 minutes. There are intelligent people in this world who know how to use the CVG search box, clearly you aren't one of them.
Damn right! I just hope there isn't one because God forbid if Sunscramble and that sorry excuse for a Vectrex actually buy a PS3 and then find that they enjoy it.
Lol. SunScramble is just a fool! He's just winding you up LordPS3. It's clear the guy hates Sony and loves M$ not even allowing a tiny bit of indifference. He 'must be right' cos 9 million PS3 owners in a space of one year must have made the wrong decision regardless of negative publicity (in the beginning) and some negative feedback in the early days in forums. So if you unlucky 9 million PS3 owners hate your PS3 right now, please give it up and go swap for a 360/Wii! (unless you're lucky to own one already). But to be honest in the last month or so it's quite clear that Sony are trying their damn hardest to woo back customers (they did fakk up at the beginning). And if my memory serves properly, COD4, Oblivion, Burnout and Dirt all run slightly or more smoother on PS3? Can send u url links from reviews if you wanna?
Why defend a PS3? It's plain and simple... It's a damn good machine and it's fun to choose to a side (ie. if you can't afford every console on the planet!). It's like footie, you think Liverpool are better than Chelsea... blah, blah, blah. At least compared to 360 it's 100% reliable (for now), free online service, you don't have to purchase wi-fi adaptor, winning blu ray hi-def platform (hd-dvd soon to be extinct and trust me 'most' bluray films do look better than upscaled DVD when transferred properly), games aren't limited by disk space, upscales DVDs, HDMI as standard and lastly.... this I why I choose a playstation brand... creative expression over the next few years. What other company introduced Singstar, DDR, eyetoy, ICO, buzz and many other original IPs? Girls love Singstar, DDR btw However Wii ftw with girls!
Can't believe I just wasted 10mins wasting my time when I just remembered an old saying 'you can't argue with a fool!' SunScramble I salute you but don't be so defensive.
So you say sun scramble is wrong by saying he hates Sony and loves M$haft yet lordps3 is ok because he loves Sony and hates M$haft?
Your point on the wii is oh so true.
Ninja Gaiden Sigma got a good CVG review - 9 / 10. Ridge Racer 7 got an - 8 / 10. Warhawk scored - 9 / 10. Motorstorm scored - 8.4 / 10. Resistance - 8 / 10. NBA 2K8 - 8.5 / 10 on gamespot (couldn't find CVG review). It also looks like CVG like Burnout Paradise - 8.9 / 10
Search for yourselves instead of whining about the lack of games. Maybe the PS3 did have a lack of titles in the past, but that's all changing.
Look at other sites for scores. I've just gone through some titles and there are a lot more out now and more coming.
It's not the lack of games rather the lack of anything I could say yeah thats worth 40 quid I'm sorry but your list doesnt contain one that for my choice I would buy. Also resistence is the only non sequel/update on that list again.
Drakes fortune is the only one I can think of off of the top of my head that I would pay that for. Yes there are more coming but you have to admit the 360 lineup is very strong against the PS3 at this point in time.
Drakes fortune is the only one I can think of off of the top of my head that I would pay that for. Yes there are more coming but you have to admit the 360 lineup is very strong against the PS3 at this point in time.
Er, no not really.
* Mass(ive) (D)effect. Clearly screwed over many punters who thought it was a FPS and were disappointed to find it was something else.
* Gears of War. A well known game that puts undue stress on the 360's GPU, which causes many 360's to RROD. See -> http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/digitaljoystick/archives/129866.asp
* Forza 2. Not everyone's cup of tea at all, most complainers say they don't like how it handles.
* PGR 4. The only reason to get this game is for the Prodigy's single track of music. Otherwise its not much different from the DC's MSR, or any other PGR game.
* Halo 3. The weakest of the 3 and well known as one of the most over hyped games ever. The Chernovan's from Warhawk would machete Mister Chief's head off, blow him up with a rocket launcher and then call in an air strike - just to be sure.
Hmm, I've run out of well known 360 titles and looking at 2008, I'd rather have what's on the PS3's agenda than the 360's. Even if I had a 360 I'd be worried about whether it might even last to the end of 2008!
Damn right! I just hope there isn't one because God forbid if Sunscramble and that sorry excuse for a Vectrex actually buy a PS3 and then find that they enjoy it.
Lol. SunScramble is just a fool! He's just winding you up LordPS3. It's clear the guy hates Sony and loves M$ not even allowing a tiny bit of indifference. He 'must be right' cos 9 million PS3 owners in a space of one year must have made the wrong decision regardless of negative publicity (in the beginning) and some negative feedback in the early days in forums. So if you unlucky 9 million PS3 owners hate your PS3 right now, please give it up and go swap for a 360/Wii! (unless you're lucky to own one already). But to be honest in the last month or so it's quite clear that Sony are trying their damn hardest to woo back customers (they did fakk up at the beginning). And if my memory serves properly, COD4, Oblivion, Burnout and Dirt all run slightly or more smoother on PS3? Can send u url links from reviews if you wanna?
Why defend a PS3? It's plain and simple... It's a damn good machine and it's fun to choose to a side (ie. if you can't afford every console on the planet!). It's like footie, you think Liverpool are better than Chelsea... blah, blah, blah. At least compared to 360 it's 100% reliable (for now), free online service, you don't have to purchase wi-fi adaptor, winning blu ray hi-def platform (hd-dvd soon to be extinct and trust me 'most' bluray films do look better than upscaled DVD when transferred properly), games aren't limited by disk space, upscales DVDs, HDMI as standard and lastly.... this I why I choose a playstation brand... creative expression over the next few years. What other company introduced Singstar, DDR, eyetoy, ICO, buzz and many other original IPs? Girls love Singstar, DDR btw However Wii ftw with girls!
Can't believe I just wasted 10mins wasting my time when I just remembered an old saying 'you can't argue with a fool!' SunScramble I salute you but don't be so defensive.
So you say sun scramble is wrong by saying he hates Sony and loves M$haft yet lordps3 is ok because he loves Sony and hates M$haft?
Your point on the wii is oh so true.
cykosis is just a dumb troll, ignore him. I've not at any point turned this into a "my console is better than your console" debate. I've not defended MS at all, in fact I've criticized them in this very thread.
He's just being overly defensive, yet accusing me of doing exactly that. (Even though I've also been accused of not being defensive about any console, also in this thread.)
He's a mindless console fanboy, and I've already 'pwnt' him in this thread for exactly that.
As for trying to make out that the Playstation 3 has the best range of exclusive titles this generation... Crikey. There are no words.
As for trying to make out that the Playstation 3 has the best range of exclusive titles this generation... Crikey. There are no words.
Er, you said that, not me.
I certainly agree games are very important, of course they are. I'm just happy playing a lot of games that I enjoy on my PS3 and will continue to do so for many years I expect.
I was just making myself clear that while you say it is all about the games (I really do accept that), when your console breaks - and it probably will - your games will be exclusive for sure. You won't have anything to run them on! That's some intelligent commitment there. I just hope that you play through and finish each title, before selling your 360 on eBay in good condition to fund yourself a PS3.
Oh and I'd love to hear you comment on how the next XBox will have backward compatibility. Everyone knows Microsoft are struggling with XBox 1 compatibility and that it requires you to have XBL. You can rant about the 40GB PS3 and missing bits all you like, I have a 60GB PS3, so I'm happy picking up the PS2 games I missed and want to play. Just for fun, it might even be worth mentioning that the 360 doesn't play PS2 games either!
Shall i come back in a few years time when people grow up and realise there is a world outside. Get this, i have an awesome console that allows me to play any sport i like, play a game similar to Guitar Hero (but the guitar is made out of wood), it has the most amazing driving game, although i'm too scared to try any of the FPS for it. It's called Reality, try it out, it's free!
You have to admit, though, that there's no defending a lot of the screw-ups and severe PR blunders that Sony have made this generation, and that most of these have been made at the direct expense of their own customers.
Absolutely! They lied about game footage being in-game, foisted a disc format onto a games device knowing it had a strong following and for some reason, have grown an bottomhole for a mouth judging by the ton of crap they've spewed with pointless and frankly baffling statements, but I can't agree with the last part of that post because Sony aren't forcing anyone to buy one.
I won't until I think it's worth it, personally; the same reason I haven't bought a Wii yet and the same reason I didn't buy a 360 until a year and half after launch.
Sony-whipping is an addiction, I think... and it got boring about this time last year. Now it's just mental.
There is plenty of reasons to buy a Wii now though bosker, Mario galaxy, Super paper mario, Metroid prime 3, RE umbrella chronicles, RE 4, Zelda, & with Smash bros, PES 08, Mario kart, Samba de amigo just a few great titles that are still to arrive there are plenty of reasons to get one.
It's game library has certainly improved, not enough for me to shell out £200 just yet... I don't get much time to game, ATM so my 360 is doing me just fine.
Time to do research = 2 minutes. Time to write post = 2 minutes. There are intelligent people in this world who know how to use the CVG search box, clearly you aren't one of them.
Yeah right sure I don't know how to use CVG search, that's why I have a CVG search box on my Firefox.
You are truly a k**b of epic proportions who speaks crappy opinions as fact. Get a life you t**t.
Er, excuse me - get a life? At least I'm not posting all day - everyday across 80% of topics slagging off everyone to try and get some sort of ego boost Mr.Vectrex. Gaming since 1988, so what?
At least I can offer specific reasons for why the PS3 is a decent bit of kit and a good investment compared with the 360. To be fair, that's all I've really commented on.
Drakes fortune is the only one I can think of off of the top of my head that I would pay that for. Yes there are more coming but you have to admit the 360 lineup is very strong against the PS3 at this point in time.
Er, no not really.
* Mass(ive) (D)effect. Clearly screwed over many punters who thought it was a FPS and were disappointed to find it was something else.
* Gears of War. A well known game that puts undue stress on the 360's GPU, which causes many 360's to RROD. See -> http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/digitaljoystick/archives/129866.asp
* Forza 2. Not everyone's cup of tea at all, most complainers say they don't like how it handles.
* PGR 4. The only reason to get this game is for the Prodigy's single track of music. Otherwise its not much different from the DC's MSR, or any other PGR game.
* Halo 3. The weakest of the 3 and well known as one of the most over hyped games ever. The Chernovan's from Warhawk would machete Mister Chief's head off, blow him up with a rocket launcher and then call in an air strike - just to be sure.
Hmm, I've run out of well known 360 titles and looking at 2008, I'd rather have what's on the PS3's agenda than the 360's. Even if I had a 360 I'd be worried about whether it might even last to the end of 2008!
Well lets start with mass effect if people still thought that mass effect was a FPS by the time it hit retail then maybe they shouldn't be playing games at all. In my experience Mass was a joy to play from start to finish and didnt leave my 360 until I had finished it.
Gears from my own experience with it did not suffer due to the strain on the GPU as it ran fine on my machine until it had to be updated at which point the update killed my 360.
Forza zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
PGR 4 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Halo franchise zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Just because titles are well known doesn't make them good take god of war, devil may cry, in my opinion they have gameplay that dates back from streets of rage or golden axe era.
To finish with the well known and admitted to 360 reliability problem (which I do bemoan myself) is getting a bit old hat now isn't it?
See unlike fanboys I will be getting the best from all of the machines line up of upcoming games, oh and the wii's lineup when they get round to releasing some more real games for it.
Must be hard for all fanboys of sony/msoft/nintendo to get your head around the fact that intelligent people can appreciate the wonder that comes from owning all the consoles. Anyone who can staunchly stick up for any billion pound corporation who doesn't give a toss whether you are having fun/problems whatever with their products needs their heads examined (all they give a toss about is the cash not that I blame them for thinking of the cash after all its business).
Lol. SunScramble is just a fool! He's just winding you up LordPS3. It's clear the guy hates Sony and loves M$ not even allowing a tiny bit of indifference. He 'must be right' cos 9 million PS3 owners in a space of one year must have made the wrong decision regardless of negative publicity (in the beginning) and some negative feedback in the early days in forums. So if you unlucky 9 million PS3 owners hate your PS3 right now, please give it up and go swap for a 360/Wii! (unless you're lucky to own one already). But to be honest in the last month or so it's quite clear that Sony are trying their damn hardest to woo back customers (they did fakk up at the beginning). And if my memory serves properly, COD4, Oblivion, Burnout and Dirt all run slightly or more smoother on PS3? Can send u url links from reviews if you wanna?
Why defend a PS3? It's plain and simple... It's a damn good machine and it's fun to choose to a side (ie. if you can't afford every console on the planet!). It's like footie, you think Liverpool are better than Chelsea... blah, blah, blah. At least compared to 360 it's 100% reliable (for now), free online service, you don't have to purchase wi-fi adaptor, winning blu ray hi-def platform (hd-dvd soon to be extinct and trust me 'most' bluray films do look better than upscaled DVD when transferred properly), games aren't limited by disk space, upscales DVDs, HDMI as standard and lastly.... this I why I choose a playstation brand... creative expression over the next few years. What other company introduced Singstar, DDR, eyetoy, ICO, buzz and many other original IPs? Girls love Singstar, DDR btw However Wii ftw with girls!
Can't believe I just wasted 10mins wasting my time when I just remembered an old saying 'you can't argue with a fool!' SunScramble I salute you but don't be so defensive.
So you say sun scramble is wrong by saying he hates Sony and loves M$haft yet lordps3 is ok because he loves Sony and hates M$haft?
Your point on the wii is oh so true.
cykosis is just a dumb troll, ignore him. I've not at any point turned this into a "my console is better than your console" debate. I've not defended MS at all, in fact I've criticized them in this very thread.
He's just being overly defensive, yet accusing me of doing exactly that. (Even though I've also been accused of not being defensive about any console, also in this thread.)
He's a mindless console fanboy, and I've already 'pwnt' him in this thread for exactly that.
As for trying to make out that the Playstation 3 has the best range of exclusive titles this generation... Crikey. There are no words.
Again I will ask this question it's off topic I know but I'm intrigued anyway.
What percentage of PS3's that have been sold, have been bought just for the blu-ray movie player by non-gamers? Seeing as it was the cheapest option to get into blu-ray for a long time.
Anyone with some sensible ideas or better actual knowledge please try and answer.
I think and don't take this the wrong way but Sunscramble and Lord PS3 should go on Jerry Springer and deal with there issues face to face.
Your angers just festering guys. You need a moderator, no not you Bosker, I'm talking about a professional. Mr Springer will sort this out once and for all. And he'll throw in a thought for the day, so look after yourselves, and each other.
Its funny that he's insulting people rather then arguing the point maturly. He went straight to calling me a snooker cue and an idiot then trying to argue his point. Oh and lord ps3 u are a dumb bastard with a hole in ur ps3 so u can have sex with it. c**t!! (Just giving him a taste of his own medicine )
Er, excuse me - get a life? At least I'm not posting all day - everyday across 80% of topics slagging off everyone to try and get some sort of ego boost Mr.Vectrex. Gaming since 1988, so what?
At least I can offer specific reasons for why the PS3 is a decent bit of kit and a good investment compared with the 360. To be fair, that's all I've really commented on.
Gaming since 1988 means I've seen and played it all so my view is unbiased. I'm not sided to one machine and think of it as the be all end all to gaming as we know it. Unlike someone else...
I don't throw around insults, if you looked at all my posts you'll see that I am not sided to one machine and have all current consoles. All my posts are ones talking about the games, not hardware sales or the hardware itself but the thing that they are designed for.
I've highlighted the bits of your post that are total rubbish and there are many on these threads that can verify that.
When I say get a life it is not referring to the amount of posts on these threads but the content of the post on your thread. Your "Sony surpasses all" attitude is well and truly disgusting. I can say something positive and negative about all 3 machines out now. I bet you though would only say negative things about all except the one referred to in your username.
I myself think the Amiga is the best machine ever period for instance, but I could give you a page full of faults now because I'm not blinded by loyalty or feel that I have to defend it in any way.
Er, excuse me - get a life? At least I'm not posting all day - everyday across 80% of topics slagging off everyone to try and get some sort of ego boost Mr.Vectrex. Gaming since 1988, so what?
At least I can offer specific reasons for why the PS3 is a decent bit of kit and a good investment compared with the 360. To be fair, that's all I've really commented on.
Gaming since 1988 means I've seen and played it all so my view is unbiased. I'm not sided to one machine and think of it as the be all end all to gaming as we know it. Unlike someone else...
I don't throw around insults, if you looked at all my posts you'll see that I am not sided to one machine and have all current consoles. All my posts are ones talking about the games, not hardware sales or the hardware itself but the thing that they are designed for.
I've highlighted the bits of your post that are total rubbish and there are many on these threads that can verify that.
When I say get a life it is not referring to the amount of posts on these threads but the content of the post on your thread. Your "Sony surpasses all" attitude is well and truly disgusting. I can say something positive and negative about all 3 machines out now. I bet you though would only say negative things about all except the one referred to in your username.
I myself think the Amiga is the best machine ever period for instance, but I could give you a page full of faults now because I'm not blinded by loyalty or feel that I have to defend it in any way.
Aha found it! Stick it to him Vectra & always remember PS3 suxxorss!!!111!!!11 & 360 Roouuuulllzzzz!!!111
1. Refers to a gaming system in their username 2. Targets another system for immature abuse 3. Resorts to personal insults when challenged 4. Reacts badly to a suggestion of greater experience
Lord PS3, I put it to you that you are either:
1. Another user's alternate logon. 2. An actual person just out to cause trouble. 3. Genuinely that ill-advised. 4. A little tiny wee person.
(incidentally, can anyone remind me if points like the above need to have full stops on the end? I think they do...)
I don't think I can say that your comments are wrong because you've only posted your opinions and everyone is entitled to disagree but I would suggest that you just try a little harder.
There isn't much substance in your post and those comments that you have made don't stand up to scrutiny. Should you wish to be taken seriously as an unbiased poster or as a troll, you're going to have to raise your game.
We've seen better.
And you know that you can do better, don't you? We know you can do it. We have faith in you! Now, step up and show us what you can do!
I'm sure he would step up and everything. If he could... but being part PS3 he's obviously having to wait for good content to appear before he can come on here and spew it.
Well, of everything that's been said, Uncharted is probably the only game I'd be interested in for the PS3 at present too. At least until GT5 comes out AND gets a damage model update. I happen to own every one of the titles being slagged off earlier. I admit Halo has never been my fave series (CoD is much better), but I'm hardly arrogant enough to believe that my opinion outweighs that of the several million people who went out and bought it. I'm sure they're ALL wrong though.
I just hope he doesn't come back here and masterfully unman me with the sweeping cuts of his rapier wit. Or call me a bad name.
Well, of everything that's been said, Uncharted is probably the only game I'd be interested in for the PS3 at present too. At least until GT5 comes out AND gets a damage model update. I happen to own every one of the titles being slagged off earlier. I admit Halo has never been my fave series (CoD is much better), but I'm hardly arrogant enough to believe that my opinion outweighs that of the several million people who went out and bought it. I'm sure they're ALL wrong though.
I just hope he doesn't come back here and masterfully unman me with the sweeping cuts of his rapier wit. Or call me a bad name.
Uncharted is a very good title, I've had a dabble in that one myself. GT5 is the one I'm waiting for, I'm thinking of skipping prologue and waiting for GT5 itself. Hopefully it won't take too long for that to happen. However knowing me I'll prob end up with both.
I'm sure he would step up and everything. If he could... but being part PS3 he's obviously having to wait for good content to appear before he can come on here and spew it.
Maybe we should update his firmware
Hmm, a person who:
1. Refers to a gaming system in their username 2. Targets another system for immature abuse 3. Resorts to personal insults when challenged 4. Reacts badly to a suggestion of greater experience
Lord PS3, I put it to you that you are either:
1. Another user's alternate logon. 2. An actual person just out to cause trouble. 3. Genuinely that ill-advised. 4. A little tiny wee person.
(incidentally, can anyone remind me if points like the above need to have full stops on the end? I think they do...)
I don't think I can say that your comments are wrong because you've only posted your opinions and everyone is entitled to disagree but I would suggest that you just try a little harder.
There isn't much substance in your post and those comments that you have made don't stand up to scrutiny. Should you wish to be taken seriously as an unbiased poster or as a troll, you're going to have to raise your game.
We've seen better.
And you know that you can do better, don't you? We know you can do it. We have faith in you! Now, step up and show us what you can do!
Good post Dave, so I'm not the only one that sees a biased attitude towards systems being spouted here. Maybe LordPS3 was the person that I read about in an online article who waited in line for hours to buy a Wii on launch just to smash it up in front of the genuine gamers waiting to get their hands on it to go home and actually enjoy it.
Not in the least. It'd be really quite easy if he's swinging wildly with that rapier and accidentally clips the jar on the shelf that the wife keeps my nuts in.
Ah that explains a lot. I've been walking past them and thinking "goddamn, I used to be a HELL of a man!".
By the way you will pay for that. You will. I hope you're not planning to actually use that bed for the night in Feb because you never know what you might in it.
There's little point. We seem to be the only ones left in here. Lord PS3 definitely isn't coming back. Let's say we scared him off.
Either that or he's at home stroking his PS3. That could take days
Nope, I just stepped out, but I'm back.
I don't see that anything any of you has said has made one jot of difference to PS3 sales. The PS3 will overtake the 360 globally by end 08 / early 09. Half of you have already admitted to buying one and another quarter of the remaining half have stated you will buy one. I expect the price to drop, but that hasn't stopped 8M+ people buying one to-date. It doesn't matter to me why they bought one as it is just expanding the PS3's user base for more PS3 games to be sold!
Games coming out on PS3 now are just as good as their 360 equivalents. When your 360 breaks, you can go waste another £200 on another (back-up!!!) 360, or consolidate by selling up your games on eBay and buying a PS3 and the equivalent games there. By spending that extra £200 on a new 360, you've just spent more money than you would if you'd invested in a 60GB PS3 originally with b/c and you still have no assurances your new 360 won't break.
As games today coming out on PS3 are just as good as the 360 games, why buy those games for the 360? In addition, The PS3's exclusives are just that and they'll be good games.
I had an interesting debate with a colleague of mine last night - he happens to write games for the DS. We both agreed that we're still waiting on the Wii to deliver some big titles. I can accept that it has SNES, Genesis, etc, which is great, except most people can play them emulated or already have those consoles. In terms of Wii games, Resi 4 could be good, Zelda / Mario Galaxy / Wii Sports are good. 3rd parties don't really know what to do with the console, but the number of games in the top 30 proves people want to buy Wii games - even if they're not that good. Er, so, um, doesn't this all sound familiar, er, something like oh I don't know, say - the PS3 over 2006 / 2007? Hmm. I'll reserve my views on the Wii until I see Mario Kart, F-Zero and Pilotwings. The Wii has zero redeeming features except for its games, so they need to be good and 3rd parties need to get engaged. It is good to see there are 124 titles coming in 2008. Funny how some of those will be crap too, but people don't look at the hundreds of titles on the PS3 that are coming in 2008 and make good comments either.
If I compare a Wii or a PS3 to a 360, the 360 is worse off. The exclusives on Wii / PS3 could hopefully be much better than those on the 360. I'd rather own a Wii / PS3 to a 360 even if just on potential releases that could appear as opposed to what's out now.
The 360 doesn't deserve the games that are on it and it doesn't deserve such support as it has achieved.
I had an interesting debate with a colleague of mine last night - he happens to write games for the DS. We both agreed that we're still waiting on the Wii to deliver some big titles. I can accept that it has SNES, Genesis, etc, which is great, except most people can play them emulated or already have those consoles. In terms of Wii games, Resi 4 could be good, Zelda / Mario Galaxy / Wii Sports are good. 3rd parties don't really know what to do with the console, but the number of games in the top 30 proves people want to buy Wii games - even if they're not that good. Er, so, um, doesn't this all sound familiar, er, something like oh I don't know, say - the PS3 over 2006 / 2007? Hmm. I'll reserve my views on the Wii until I see Mario Kart, F-Zero and Pilotwings. The Wii has zero redeeming features except for its games, so they need to be good and 3rd parties need to get engaged.
There was actually some sense in that post! Maybe there is a gamer in you somewhere
I thought you were pro-ps3 anti everything else but posts like that make me rethink that.
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