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PS3 Devil will make you CRY with 20 min install time

Fit a whole Simpsons episode in while your new PS3 game takes 20 mins to install
Devil May Cry 4 is coming to 360 and PS3 this Friday. That's good news mainly for the reason that it's an awesome game. You can look forward to the review later this week, or read this if you can't wait any longer. But there's a little issue of a MASSIVE installation process that forces all PS3 gamers to wait just under 22 mins before they can tuck in to Dante's finest.

Update: You can read Capcom's response here.

You'd think there'd be a benefit after being forced to install nearly 5GB of game data, like shorter or even no loading times during the entire game. Funny thing is though, it doesn't make much difference to load times compared to the 360 version, that you can play straight away.

We clocked the entire install process at 21 minutes, 41 seconds.

Following that the opening load time on PS3 was five seconds against eight on 360. And then three seconds versus four, and four versus five seconds in following load screens, PS3 - 360. As you can see there's not much in it.

So over the course of an eight-to-ten hour game you might get your 21 minutes back over 360 players with ever-so-slightly shorter loading times. But really?

Time to put the stopwatch away and get back to playing the game. Check out in-game footage here.

While we're 'on topic', it's also being reported that (in Japan) the PS3 version of Devil May Cry 4 is outselling the 360 game 5-1. But that's because there are only six people with 360s in the country. It'll be much closer over here, if not the other way around.

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vercetti102 on 4 Feb '08
Oh dear! 5 gb!!! Shocked

I will stick with my 360 me thinks Razz
benji85 on 4 Feb '08
Shocked I was close to ordering this on PS3

Thank God I went for 360 version
mfnick on 4 Feb '08
Being a PS3 and 360 owner it was a tough call to choose which platform to buy this game for.
Thankfully I'd heard about this 20 min install and slightly inferior textures on the PS3 version. Combine that with the £10 more expensive PS3 version I think its safe to say which option I went for.
Luckily my copy arrived this morning so I'l be taking it for a whirl later.
As for the sales, I'd imagine it'll be a close one as this is an established series on the Playstation consoles whereas this will be all new to 360 owners. Hopefully they haven't wasted their money on Burnout and will buy this to show Capcom some love.
vulcanraven01 on 4 Feb '08
Im worried about all those people who got the 40gb version.

They soon wont be able to fit any games on it if devs keep this up
mfnick on 4 Feb '08
you dont have to install the game if you dont want to...
kizzle on 4 Feb '08
I did the same with ninja gaiden on ps3. No great shakes really. I mean, you don't have to download the data as it only improves load times. The only people that will be crying are all those 360 owners with hand-cramp! Laughing How are your hands, Gav? Wink
Mark240473 on 4 Feb '08
was gonna get the 360 version and now this has just confirmed it. ah well it'll probably make me strive towards getting the SS achievement anyway. and i'm not talking about nazi's
ensabahnur on 4 Feb '08
you dont have to install the game if you dont want to...

Really? What is the point of it then?
Johnny_5 on 4 Feb '08
you dont have to install the game if you dont want to...

Really? What is the point of it then?
it seems to stop pro evo from crashing. but going by whats been said about the loading times in the article it seems to be a waste.
ensabahnur on 4 Feb '08
The 360 version plays the same because the drive spins at 12x speed.

This is why the 360 is so noisy especially when compared to the near silent PS3.

What is the problem ? You install the data, you finish the game, you delete the data.

I would far rather play the PS3 version as its soooooooooooooo much quieter.
jerkyboy on 4 Feb '08
you dont have to install the game if you dont want to...

Really? What is the point of it then?

Improved loading times & depending on the game - better framerates
mfnick on 4 Feb '08
you dont have to install the game if you dont want to...

Actually...this one is mandatory. Read it in the 1UP interview with Hiroyuki Kobayashi.
DvsDevise on 4 Feb '08
was gonna get the 360 version and now this has just confirmed it. ah well it'll probably make me strive towards getting the SS achievement anyway. and i'm not talking about nazi's

Actually...this one is mandatory. Read it in the 1UP interview with Hiroyuki Kobayashi.

looks like its gonna be a 20min wait for me then Crying or Very sad
kizzle on 4 Feb '08
you dont have to install the game if you dont want to...

Actually...this one is mandatory. Read it in the 1UP interview with Hiroyuki Kobayashi.
eh did you quote the wrong guy there? ah its been changed but i cant delete this message anymore.
ensabahnur on 4 Feb '08
was gonna get the 360 version and now this has just confirmed it. ah well it'll probably make me strive towards getting the SS achievement anyway. and i'm not talking about nazi's

Actually...this one is mandatory. Read it in the 1UP interview with Hiroyuki Kobayashi.

You've probably got more chance going to the moon on a cream egg than getting top rank on a DMC game. And what is the big fuss about these achievements? Some sad gits lives revolve around achievement points, so why try and compete? I mean, there is a little thing called life to consider. Laughing
Mark240473 on 4 Feb '08
What is the problem ? You install the data, you finish the game, you delete the data.

I would far rather play the PS3 version as its soooooooooooooo much quieter.

But then, if you have the volume up on your TV- and I'd assume you would want to with a game like DMC- you won't hear the whirring anyway....

and what about those people who want to replay the game, or go back to it every now and again? Should they install the data every time? o.O

that said, I have to agree with vercetti102. The demo was pretty unispiring. Pretty graphics, but gameplay wise it doesn't seem to have moved on from the first DMC. I know a lot of people wouldn't want it to change, but I do like to see *some* progression. . And don't even get me started on the godawful camera. Yes, it might be the best one the series has seen to date, but really, thats not saying a lot, is it?
berelain on 4 Feb '08
20 minutes, is there really a hwole article because a game takes 20 minutes to install? and?

blimey, talk about finding anything to put down a particular version or other.

Heres an idea, if you can't spare 20 minutes of your life, and you don't think the 20 minutes invested is worth it over the course of the game, then, ready for it....don't do it!
anagi on 4 Feb '08
was gonna get the 360 version and now this has just confirmed it. ah well it'll probably make me strive towards getting the SS achievement anyway. and i'm not talking about nazi's

Actually...this one is mandatory. Read it in the 1UP interview with Hiroyuki Kobayashi.

You've probably got more chance going to the moon on a cream egg than getting top rank on a DMC game. And what is the big fuss about these achievements? Some sad gits lives revolve around achievement points, so why try and compete? I mean, there is a little thing called life to consider. Laughing
dunno managed to get a few S rankings in the first 3 games. and i don't want it for the achievement points, just the prestige. once it hit 10000 the gamerscore hasn't really bothered me. i just loved the 1st and 3rd DMC games. 2nd one was a let down though.
ensabahnur on 4 Feb '08
and heres another thing, the time it took you to write this article.....20 minutes? Laughing
read the responses? 20 minutes?

you then have to decide, over the life of the article being live, was it worth it? was it only a fraction better than the other article that was copied and pasted...? arraghhghghgghh life is full of tough choices!
anagi on 4 Feb '08
The way people are complaining you would think you had a 20 minute install every time you play it.

It's a one off installation, stick the disk in, have a cup of tea and watch the telly for 20 minutes.

People don't seem to mind waiting a few hours for a demo to download, I don't see what all the fuss is over this.
darren_mccoy on 4 Feb '08
There is only one game worth getting your knickers in a twist for this year. GTA4. I can't wait for all the fanboy arguing over that one.

Also, at least ps3 owners can improve the load times on DMC4. What is so negative about that. Some 360 owners have'nt even got a hard-drive! By the time I have made a brew and spoke to the missus, the game will have finished downloading.

What am I missing here? Confused
Mark240473 on 4 Feb '08
The only people that will be crying are all those 360 owners with hand-cramp!

I actually found both versions were hand cramp central. Not much between the 2 at all - I even put the 2 side by side (Picture By Picture in HDMI) and still couldn't tell the difference (aliasing aside!).

Its a shame Sony had the prime oppourtunity to update their standard control pad with the DualShock3, and used exactly the same naff layout as the SixAxis. Remember those analog sticks were just tacked on in a hurry during the PlayStation days!! At least swap the D pad and the left analog stick!! Reminds me of Apple - style and product recognition over function.
kricca on 4 Feb '08
There is only one game worth getting your knickers in a twist for this year. GTA4. I can't wait for all the fanboy arguing over that one.

Also, at least ps3 owners can improve the load times on DMC4. What is so negative about that. Some 360 owners have'nt even got a hard-drive! By the time I have made a brew and spoke to the missus, the game will have finished downloading.

What am I missing here? Confused
yeah cannot wait for the willy waving to start when GTA comes out. thats gonna be hilarious
ensabahnur on 4 Feb '08
A lot of fuss over a very poor game.
wudragon on 4 Feb '08
Not even slightly interested in it. Had it been released 2 month later aroudn the time of gta4, mgs4 and gt prologue no one would even have batted an eye lid at it - just shows the lack of games in the early part of this year.
jimmygoogle on 4 Feb '08
Young whipper snappers don't know how lucky you are back in the day had to multi-load a game by tape with screeching noise for 5 minutes then load another which if you were lucky did not crash causing you to start again. The Speccy taught me patience I guess, so stop moaning you've never had it so good! Wink
rico_dredd on 4 Feb '08
What a joke, thank god im getting the 360 version
DAEDALUS79 on 4 Feb '08
and what about those people who want to replay the game, or go back to it every now and again? Should they install the data every time? o.O
That's me! I like to keep all my games even after I'm done with them because I like to have a collection. I always keep the mandatory-install games (Heavenly Sword, Skate, Ratchet etc.) installed so I don't have to do it all again if I decide to play them in future. 5GB of my current 35GB free space going to DMC4 though... I don't know about that. I think Capcom have given me good reason delete and trade it in once I'm done with it.

I wonder will GTA4 force installation for PS3 owners?
falloutwarchief on 4 Feb '08
Its a shame Sony had the prime oppourtunity to update their standard control pad with the DualShock3, and used exactly the same naff layout as the SixAxis. Remember those analog sticks were just tacked on in a hurry during the PlayStation days!! At least swap the D pad and the left analog stick!! Reminds me of Apple - style and product recognition over function.

Y'know, I'm really glad its not just me that finds the Dualshock pads a bit dated nowadays. Nothing wrong with them, exactly. They're just... outdated. And they were never especially comfortable in the first place.
berelain on 4 Feb '08
Young whipper snappers don't know how lucky you are back in the day had to multi-load a game by tape with screeching noise for 5 minutes then load another which if you were lucky did not crash causing you to start again. The Speccy taught me patience I guess, so stop moaning you've never had it so good! Wink
see you should have got a c64 and you would have had some music to listen 2. like the ariston music which played when loading robocop. remember when you had to load each level for a game and died 2 minutes into the 5th, then had to reload level 1. ahh good days. 16 colours onscreen at the same time. amazing
ensabahnur on 4 Feb '08
I can't believe there are people saying the game is crap without even playing it.

I've just about finished it and it's brilliant. It looks gorgeous, it's got great sound, perfect action, and it's just a brilliant game.

If you don't like these sorts of games then you're never going to like it (so why even bother playing and certainly why bother posting here - numbnuts), but the story is great and the cut-scenes are brilliant.

It's got some issues, haven't all games, but generally I loved it!

So, if you've not played it, quit your whining!
Karis on 4 Feb '08
I can't believe there are people saying the game is crap without even playing it.

I've just about finished it and it's brilliant. It looks gorgeous, it's got great sound, perfect action, and it's just a brilliant game.

If you don't like these sorts of games then you're never going to like it (so why even bother playing and certainly why bother posting here - numbnuts), but the story is great and the cut-scenes are brilliant.

It's got some issues, haven't all games, but generally I loved it!

So, if you've not played it, quit your whining!

Where did you buy yours from to get it so early? I cant wait for my copy to arrive Very Happy
mfnick on 4 Feb '08
Again, the superior version of a 3rd party title is on the XBox 360, and not the PS3.

Not a shock, really...it will likely be this way throughout this generation, to be honest.
matthew_m_g on 4 Feb '08
20 minutes, is there really a hwole article because a game takes 20 minutes to install? and?

blimey, talk about finding anything to put down a particular version or other.

Heres an idea, if you can't spare 20 minutes of your life, and you don't think the 20 minutes invested is worth it over the course of the game, then, ready for it....don't do it!

I think the main problem is that PS3 is taking games in the direction of PC, ie having to wait anywhere between 15-30 mins to install depending on the game, and what for? To make up for Blu-Ray's slow read speed...
Imagine if you ran out to get something like GTA4 or MGS4 only to slip the game in your PS3, buzzing with excitement, only for an install screen to pop up leaving you waiting for 20-30 mins before you can even experience the game...
I for one would be p**sed...
And like someone else said, being a 40GB PS3 owner myself, im getting quite worried already about my PS3 running out of space.
vulcanraven01 on 4 Feb '08
Where did you buy yours from to get it so early? I cant wait for my copy to arrive Very Happy

Mine's a review copy for a rival magazine.

When you get it, it'll blow you away. If you loved the others, you'll love this. It's got a great story, and seamlessly blends action with cut scenes...
Karis on 4 Feb '08
Young whipper snappers don't know how lucky you are back in the day had to multi-load a game by tape with screeching noise for 5 minutes then load another which if you were lucky did not crash causing you to start again. The Speccy taught me patience I guess, so stop moaning you've never had it so good! Wink
see you should have got a c64 and you would have had some music to listen 2. like the ariston music which played when loading robocop. remember when you had to load each level for a game and died 2 minutes into the 5th, then had to reload level 1. ahh good days. 16 colours onscreen at the same time. amazing

Had an Amstrad CPC, always loaded the first time every time, apart from one single title. I never had any music playing Sad thankfully the Amstrad allowed you to turn down the volume completely and still loaded so you never had to listen to that. I used to read a magazine while it did this for each game Wink

I could of sped up the tape load rate with a command before launching the tape but then this caused 70% of games to fail loading the first time Laughing

Thank goodness we don't have wait times like that any more.

Shocked
vectra on 4 Feb '08
Thats crazy, its probably the blu ray drive lol, its true though, your average 3.5inch hard drive can write @ ~50Meg per second, 5 gig at that speed should take 20 seconds per gig or just under 2 minutes in total.
lmimmfn on 4 Feb '08
Where did you buy yours from to get it so early? I cant wait for my copy to arrive Very Happy

Mine's a review copy for a rival magazine.

When you get it, it'll blow you away. If you loved the others, you'll love this. It's got a great story, and seamlessly blends action with cut scenes...

Excellent. I loved the demo & DMC1+3 are 2 of my favourite ever games. Especialy the first one. Seeing Dante get impaled on a sword then lift himself off is one of gamings great moments. When I saw it I thought WTF?! Theyve just killed the lead character! Then he just got up. Bloody awesome Surprised & that giant firey spider was a great site & was the first time my new PS2 made me gasp at the graphics Very Happy
mfnick on 4 Feb '08
I guess I'll get the PS3 version. Faster loading times and better controller.
M00nblade on 4 Feb '08
Ohh my God, the PS3 is taking us back to the days of the C64!!....LOADING TIMES!!... whats next?, flashing coloured bars?, Title Screen??....tuning heads!!!
hollywood111 on 4 Feb '08
Young whipper snappers don't know how lucky you are back in the day had to multi-load a game by tape with screeching noise for 5 minutes then load another which if you were lucky did not crash causing you to start again. The Speccy taught me patience I guess, so stop moaning you've never had it so good! Wink
see you should have got a c64 and you would have had some music to listen 2. like the ariston music which played when loading robocop. remember when you had to load each level for a game and died 2 minutes into the 5th, then had to reload level 1. ahh good days. 16 colours onscreen at the same time. amazing

Had an Amstrad CPC, always loaded the first time every time, apart from one single title. I never had any music playing Sad thankfully the Amstrad allowed you to turn down the volume completely and still loaded so you never had to listen to that. I used to read a magazine while it did this for each game Wink

I could of sped up the tape load rate with a command before launching the tape but then this caused 70% of games to fail loading the first time Laughing

Thank goodness we don't have wait times like that any more.

Shocked
maybe some people would appreciate their games more if they had to wait longer to play them. i made sure if i was waiting 10 mins to play a game i was gonna finish it. too many games nowadays feel disposable.
ensabahnur on 4 Feb '08
Im getting the 360 version, its cheaper & has achievements Very Happy

Plus Im not waiting 20 mins to install it Shocked
dpb135 on 4 Feb '08
What a joke, thank god im getting the 360 version

I have told you before the only joke is you. Anyway I don't see the point of a 20min load time? Uncharted has good load times and you don't have to do a 20min install before you play that game. I blame Capcom!
Johnny_5 on 4 Feb '08
20 minutes, is there really a hwole article because a game takes 20 minutes to install? and?

blimey, talk about finding anything to put down a particular version or other.

Heres an idea, if you can't spare 20 minutes of your life, and you don't think the 20 minutes invested is worth it over the course of the game, then, ready for it....don't do it!

Are you serious! Only a PS3 Fanboy would think that this is trivial! The mere fact that you have to INSTALL a console game is ludicrous. One of the main advantages of consoles over PCs is the fact that you can just put a game in and play it. It proves in my mind that until blueray drives become quicker, dvd is still the way to go.
leefear1 on 4 Feb '08
I know retro gaming is back at the moment but this is taking the p**s!! hahahahaha.... LaughingLaughing
hollywood111 on 4 Feb '08
20 minutes, is there really a hwole article because a game takes 20 minutes to install? and?

blimey, talk about finding anything to put down a particular version or other.

Heres an idea, if you can't spare 20 minutes of your life, and you don't think the 20 minutes invested is worth it over the course of the game, then, ready for it....don't do it!

Are you serious! Only a PS3 Fanboy would think that this is trivial! The mere fact that you have to INSTALL a console game is ludicrous. One of the main advantages of consoles over PCs is the fact that you can just put a game in and play it. It proves in my mind that until blueray drives become quicker, dvd is still the way to go.

tbh the fact that some ppl are taking this issue far too seriously is fanboyish, At the end of the day it is a minor issue to begin with, A 20min installation big f'in deal go get a life.

all you gotta do is find something to do for 20mins jeez...
kizzle on 4 Feb '08
20 minutes, is there really a hwole article because a game takes 20 minutes to install? and?

blimey, talk about finding anything to put down a particular version or other.

Heres an idea, if you can't spare 20 minutes of your life, and you don't think the 20 minutes invested is worth it over the course of the game, then, ready for it....don't do it!

Are you serious! Only a PS3 Fanboy would think that this is trivial! The mere fact that you have to INSTALL a console game is ludicrous. One of the main advantages of consoles over PCs is the fact that you can just put a game in and play it. It proves in my mind that until blueray drives become quicker, dvd is still the way to go.

tbh the fact that some ppl are taking this issue far too seriously is fanboyish, At the end of the day it is a minor issue to begin with, A 20min installation big f'in deal go get a life.

all you gotta do is find something to do for 20mins jeez...

No the sad thing is you're completely missing the point!?. The whole idea of this, Install onto you HD, was to make games quicker to play, you have to wait 20mins to save 1/2 seconds?... its f**king pointless & Sony made such a fuss over all 360's not containing HD's?.... it's classic
hollywood111 on 4 Feb '08
Shocked maybe some people would appreciate their games more if they had to wait longer to play them. i made sure if i was waiting 10 mins to play a game i was gonna finish it. too many games nowadays feel disposable.

Laughing I made sure that if a game took that long it would be a game I could play for ages. No quick blast of this or that back then. Only bothered loading it up when I had a session.

I miss my Amstrad, nothing like loading up it's word processor, that took 5 mins and my dot matrix printer took ages to output the pages and was incredibly noisy!


I have told you before the only joke is you. Anyway I don't see the point of a 20min load time? Uncharted has good load times and you don't have to do a 20min install before you play that game. I blame Capcom!

That's a bit personal Laughing You can't really get at someone for getting the version they want to play. His money after all.

Whatever console you guys have get this game for it Wink If you happen to have both machines then choose the one for you. I'm going for whichever version I can get cheaper. Twisted Evil
vectra on 4 Feb '08
20 minutes, is there really a hwole article because a game takes 20 minutes to install? and?

blimey, talk about finding anything to put down a particular version or other.

Heres an idea, if you can't spare 20 minutes of your life, and you don't think the 20 minutes invested is worth it over the course of the game, then, ready for it....don't do it!

Are you serious! Only a PS3 Fanboy would think that this is trivial! The mere fact that you have to INSTALL a console game is ludicrous. One of the main advantages of consoles over PCs is the fact that you can just put a game in and play it. It proves in my mind that until blueray drives become quicker, dvd is still the way to go.

tbh the fact that some ppl are taking this issue far too seriously is fanboyish, At the end of the day it is a minor issue to begin with, A 20min installation big f'in deal go get a life.

all you gotta do is find something to do for 20mins jeez...

I have a life thank you and I have owned most of the consoles and computers that have been released in this country over the last 27 years or so. I currently own a PS2, PS1, PSP, 360, Wii, DS, NeoGeo Pocket Color, Lynx, Dreamcast and PC. So I am no fanboy. I just think it is funny that Fanboys trivialise anything bad to do with their particular console. A 20min install for a console game is just unbelievable!
leefear1 on 4 Feb '08


Whatever console you guys have get this game for it Wink If you happen to have both machines then choose the one for you. I'm going for whichever version I can get cheaper. Twisted Evil

360 version then Wink
mfnick on 4 Feb '08
20 minutes, is there really a hwole article because a game takes 20 minutes to install? and?

blimey, talk about finding anything to put down a particular version or other.

Heres an idea, if you can't spare 20 minutes of your life, and you don't think the 20 minutes invested is worth it over the course of the game, then, ready for it....don't do it!

Are you serious! Only a PS3 Fanboy would think that this is trivial! The mere fact that you have to INSTALL a console game is ludicrous. One of the main advantages of consoles over PCs is the fact that you can just put a game in and play it. It proves in my mind that until blueray drives become quicker, dvd is still the way to go.

tbh the fact that some ppl are taking this issue far too seriously is fanboyish, At the end of the day it is a minor issue to begin with, A 20min installation big f'in deal go get a life.

all you gotta do is find something to do for 20mins jeez...

No the sad thing is you're completely missing the point!?. The whole idea of this, Install onto you HD, was to make games quicker to play, you have to wait 20mins to save 1/2 seconds?... its f**king pointless & Sony made such a fuss over all 360's not containing HD's?.... it's classic

AHOY! i just read the article over again now that is taking the p**s, but i do feel that capcom are to blame as other devs make you install onto your HD without the 20min wait and some slight improvements in overall performance within the game...
kizzle on 4 Feb '08


Whatever console you guys have get this game for it Wink If you happen to have both machines then choose the one for you. I'm going for whichever version I can get cheaper. Twisted Evil

360 version then Wink

*waits for Amiga version* Laughing

Kidding! Yep if the 360 version is cheaper then that's the one I'll go for. Wink
vectra on 4 Feb '08
I just think it's funny that, when the 360 had the issuses, with having to use multiple disks for large games, ps3 fanboys thought it ridiculous, something that would only take like 20 seconds max to swap(per disk), this is like 20 mins, but now it's seems that i's fine! especially when you just want to play the game.
LittleYoda on 4 Feb '08
not a fanboy, just don't see why people go so crazy over the fact you have the option to install to save a a few seconds load time, not the end of the world. and I agree with other posts, it must be down to developers as others have managed without it, such as uncharted.

maybe i have too much time on my hands

is it a must? or is it an option that you don't actually have to do? Ive heard both but would be interested in clarification
anagi on 4 Feb '08
20 minutes, is there really a hwole article because a game takes 20 minutes to install? and?

blimey, talk about finding anything to put down a particular version or other.

Heres an idea, if you can't spare 20 minutes of your life, and you don't think the 20 minutes invested is worth it over the course of the game, then, ready for it....don't do it!
and heres another thing, the time it took you to write this article.....20 minutes?
read the responses? 20 minutes?

you then have to decide, over the life of the article being live, was it worth it? was it only a fraction better than the other article that was copied and pasted...? arraghhghghgghh life is full of tough choices!

Its still the deciding factor for many people me included.
spooney100 on 4 Feb '08
I just think it's funny that, when the 360 had the issuses, with having to use multiple disks for large games, ps3 fanboys thought it ridiculous, something that would only take like 20 seconds max to swap(per disk), this is like 20 mins, but now it's seems that i's fine! especially when you just want to play the game.

At the end of the day we are sort of inbetween formats. DVD is still most likely the way to go but if developer's use FMV scenes then it's going to require multiple discs, ala BD and LO.
However, Blu-Ray could solve this but at the same time you have slower read speeds meaning slower load times, which is why these HDD install's being standard is getting more frequent.

If you own one console then you have no choice but to buy that version.
If you own both then you have to make the choice given the information you are provided while taking cost and prefered controller into consideration.

And it has already been confirmed, you HAVE to go through the install process for the PS3 version.
vulcanraven01 on 4 Feb '08
not a fanboy, just don't see why people go so crazy over the fact you have the option to install to save a a few seconds load time, not the end of the world. and I agree with other posts, it must be down to developers as others have managed without it, such as uncharted.

maybe i have too much time on my hands

is it a must? or is it an option that you don't actually have to do? Ive heard both but would be interested in clarification

No option a must!, you can argue that's Capcom's fault, or are they really struggling to bring the load times down on the PS3 because of the PS3's Architecture?...
hollywood111 on 4 Feb '08
I wont be buying this for either my ps3 or 360, but it is funny to think I'd have to wait seventeen minutes for sultans maze to load up on my amstrad cpc 464 before I could play it. Forget the power of blu-ray give me the power of rattly cassettes anyday.
TheMullet3 on 4 Feb '08
i suppose 20 min install is the price you pay for being able to play your game without having to drown out the sound of your console by turning your tv up.
lmaolmao on 4 Feb '08
By the look of it IGN seem to think that the PS3 version is better than the 360 version!

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=122160
Johnny_5 on 4 Feb '08
i suppose 20 min install is the price you pay for being able to play your game without having to drown out the sound of your console by turning your tv up.

then i'll stick to keeping my surround sound on?.... Rolling Eyes
hollywood111 on 4 Feb '08
By the look of it IGN seem to think that the PS3 version is better than the 360 version!

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=122160

I smell desperation!!...hahaha Laughing
hollywood111 on 4 Feb '08
for a game like DMC4, its worth the wait...damn, its just installation though, there's no problem for that in me...
corlock on 4 Feb '08
Ouch. So this Blu-Ray thing has rapidly turned from having no real advantage (for the current generation, at least) to actually being a disadvantage... On top of being expensive, and causing delays.

Still, at least I know not to bother with the 40GB PS3, when I do get forced to take the plunge.
SunScramble on 4 Feb '08
By the look of it IGN seem to think that the PS3 version is better than the 360 version!

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=122160

I smell desperation!!...hahaha Laughing

Having seen alot of footage from the PS3 and 360 versions, personally I thought the PS3 version had slightly inferior textures although they might not have had the RGB thing turned on in the settings, which made it looked washed out some what...
vulcanraven01 on 4 Feb '08
i got 7200rpm not 5400rpm hdd in my ps3 will this cut installation time ?
Aphexman on 4 Feb '08
Laughing 5gb update thats over half of my download limit for the month.
Plus 20 mins for 5gb that would take hours for my boardband to do that 360 version for me then.
steve w on 4 Feb '08
Laughing 5gb update thats over half of my download limit for the month.
Plus 20 mins for 5gb that would take hours for my boardband to do that 360 version for me then.

Comprehensive reading skills.

You don't have any. Laughing

"the edge comes in the fact that the PS3 installs a large amount of game files to the hard drive, dramatically reducing load times between stages and cinematics. I've timed the game on both systems numerous times, and each time has been consistently in the PS3's favor. Transitions to gameplay from starting menus are relatively close, frequently within half a second or so of each other, but when you're loading up a cutscene or having another pause in the action, the 360's times are easily three times that of the PS3."

nuff said
M00nblade on 4 Feb '08
I wont be buying this for either my ps3 or 360, but it is funny to think I'd have to wait seventeen minutes for sultans maze to load up on my amstrad cpc 464 before I could play it. Forget the power of blu-ray give me the power of rattly cassettes anyday.

I remeber that title Shocked pure class that was.
vectra on 4 Feb '08
but when you're loading up a cutscene or having another pause in the action, the 360's times are easily three times that of the PS3.
nuff said

So what is the time for loading a cutscene?

If it's 1 to 2 seconds for the PS3, whats the beef in being three times that for the 360 version?

Plus, when you have the difference of £10 between them....
ffcoppolla on 4 Feb '08

Plus, when you have the difference of £10 between them....

import
M00nblade on 4 Feb '08
but when you're loading up a cutscene or having another pause in the action, the 360's times are easily three times that of the PS3.
nuff said

So what is the time for loading a cutscene?

If it's 1 to 2 seconds for the PS3, whats the beef in being three times that for the 360 version?

Plus, when you have the difference of £10 between them....

Currently played the first 3 missions on the 360 version.
Going from cut-scene to cut-scene is about 4 or 5 seconds.
Going from gameplay to cut-scene is near instant.

As for the actual game, pure win.
The first mission serves as a tutorial but it's you (Nero) vs Dante!
Graphics are pretty good and rather crisp. Cut-scenes are really well directed and reek style.
It also seems like there's a huge selection fo combo's to choose from but I've only got a hadnful at the moment.
vulcanraven01 on 4 Feb '08
Ok so its more expensive and for some reason you have to install it?
DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY KNOW WHY? Some nerd must know why?
The playstation 3 should be put down like the overpriced spoilt poodle it is.

Kinda nice though, reminds me of the good old Commodore 64 days, but I think it loaded a little faster Laughing
pauljoyce22 on 4 Feb '08
I'd rather wait 20 mins for installation than play the 360 version and have to put up with the sound of a Nasa space shuttle taking off.

It's also nice to play without the fear of that dreaded 30 percent failure rate.
carterlink on 4 Feb '08
Laughing
I knew I could lure a fan boy out!
pauljoyce22 on 4 Feb '08
Oh and I have a ps3, that WILL last a lot longer as all it does is collect dust. Rolling Eyes

Devil may cry anyway is pants, won't be getting it on either machine.

But back to the question, of WHY on earth are you FORCED to install the game?
pauljoyce22 on 4 Feb '08
I'm actually a Ninty fan. I couldn't give a toss. Just thought I'd get in on the debate.
carterlink on 4 Feb '08
Do CVG get money for every angry fanboy post or something? Why try and provoke them?

I'll get this on PS3 anyway, downloaded the demo, and it was ace! Cool

I think the forced install is a product of the Xbox360's 12x DVD drive vs PS3's 2x Blu-ray drive.
Zepf on 4 Feb '08
I'd rather wait 20 mins for installation than play the 360 version and have to put up with the sound of a Nasa space shuttle taking off.

It's also nice to play without the fear of that dreaded 30 percent failure rate.

Obviously the 360 is louder due to the fan noise combined with the sound of the DVD being read at fast speeds.
PS3 on the other hand is a huge console meaning no need for fast fans to cool components down. You also don't have any read sound since Blu-Ray discs are read at a slow rate.
Using the failure rate is also unfair as the 40GB PS3's have been just as bad with len's issues.

Ok so its more expensive and for some reason you have to install it?
DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY KNOW WHY? Some nerd must know why?

Blu-Ray discs are read at a much slower rate than DVD. The 5GB of data that's installed on the HDD helps increase load times. Without it they would more than likley be dire.
vulcanraven01 on 4 Feb '08
It's sad to see articles written with such an obvious bias present. As if people are really going to have their day ruined over a 20 minute install. As if people really have nothing else to do in life while this game installs for 20 minutes. Furthermore, the loading time is actually shorter throughout the entire game as a result. While it may not be dramatically shorter, the fact that it is in fact shorter is still a plus. So stop trying to spin this into some negative feature. Pathetic.
Tigerriot on 4 Feb '08
It's sad to see articles written with such an obvious bias present. As if people are really going to have their day ruined over a 20 minute install. As if people really have nothing else to do in life while this game installs for 20 minutes. Furthermore, the loading time is actually shorter throughout the entire game as a result. While it may not be dramatically shorter, the fact that it is in fact shorter is still a plus. So stop trying to spin this into some negative feature. Pathetic.

Couldn't agree more. There seems to be a fashion on this site at the moment for exaggerating the importance of minor PS3 failings.

One initial 20 min installation for a faster and quieter experience. You'd swear that people had nothing else to do!

And before I get accused again of being a Sony fanboy, I own all three consoles and they're all great in their own way.
carterlink on 4 Feb '08
Dat sux, u have to install it each time u play???!!! WTF!!!! Shocked
FunkYellowMonkey on 4 Feb '08
I like the sony controller and have done since the PS1 which probably plays some part. Don't even know why i'm posting because I don't like the game. PS3 controller is also a lot lighter than the Xbox but thats because it doesn't have rumble. I thought I'd miss it but i don't too much. Just a little bit. This is quite a pointless post but it kinda ties in with the retro theme. And 20 mins isn't that long. And no i'm not a fanboy. Well, maybe a little bit. A less offensive one at least. Also I can spell which is more than can be said for most fanboys.
duncanskuse on 4 Feb '08
Again, the superior version of a 3rd party title is on the XBox 360, and not the PS3.

Not a shock, really...it will likely be this way throughout this generation, to be honest.

ah i thought you liked to line your tents,in an 'x' formation Wink

how vulgar Rolling Eyes
seedaripper on 4 Feb '08
I'm actually a Ninty fan. I couldn't give a toss. Just thought I'd get in on the debate.

Laughing
vectra on 4 Feb '08
Young whipper snappers don't know how lucky you are back in the day had to multi-load a game by tape with screeching noise for 5 minutes then load another which if you were lucky did not crash causing you to start again. The Speccy taught me patience I guess, so stop moaning you've never had it so good! Wink
see you should have got a c64 and you would have had some music to listen 2. like the ariston music which played when loading robocop. remember when you had to load each level for a game and died 2 minutes into the 5th, then had to reload level 1. ahh good days. 16 colours onscreen at the same time. amazing

Had an Amstrad CPC, always loaded the first time every time, apart from one single title. I never had any music playing Sad thankfully the Amstrad allowed you to turn down the volume completely and still loaded so you never had to listen to that. I used to read a magazine while it did this for each game Wink

I could of sped up the tape load rate with a command before launching the tape but then this caused 70% of games to fail loading the first time Laughing

Thank goodness we don't have wait times like that any more.

Shocked

ahh thank god for some(dare i say it? older gamers here) since the days from my humble ZX80 (no sound/no colour..er...no memory)right upto the commodor plus 4, i had nothing but bloody trouble getting games to load-remember the speccy and any old tape deck-and trying different volumes??? AAARRGGGHH! nothing gave me more gip though than 'ace air combat simulator' on the plus4,fantastic game, but took at least half an hour to load...to work every 5 attempts...i cannot explain the amount of time and frustration i had with that game...but...it had speech (ironically it was 'EJECT,EJECT...MISSION DESTROYED!')
I still use it today (the term) when im in a bad situation Wink

P.s if it bothers you other guys so much about the install, buy a 250 GB 2.5in sita HD from e-bay for 60 quid Rolling Eyes
seedaripper on 4 Feb '08
The 5 GB install really should have been optional not compulsory, even if it meant the loading times would be twice as long as the 360 version. Still it's ONE 20 minute install and then you can play it to your heart's content, it's not like you have to install the game every time you play it. Not a great advert for Blu-ray disc gaming though... 25 GB of space on them but you get a game that MUST be installed to the HDD in order to play it. Seems very wasteful when you look at it like that...

Anyways, despite owning both machines, I've opted for the PS3 version purely for its controls which I prefer over the 360 simply because I've played all the previous games on the PS2. It just feels more suited to the PS3. Fortunately, there's little else to choose between them IMO based on the two demos and the 360's Achievements hold little interest for me these days so that was never a consideration.

Roll on Thursday when I'll hopefully get my copy from GAME... I'll install it while I'm having dinner... perfect! Smile
Doctor_Hades on 4 Feb '08
Ok so its more expensive and for some reason you have to install it?
DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY KNOW WHY?

Well, they've explained why you have to install it, as for the price...

Well, when Sony cut the price of the PS3, they hiked up the game prices so as to not lose any money on the deal. Y'know, giving with the one hand, while taking with the other. Giving the impression of cutting the price, but in the long-term actually raising it.

For the PS3 fanboys who are ready to call foul, this info comes straight from Sony. Here's the Kokatu story, containing a link to the interview with Michael Ephraim.
SunScramble on 4 Feb '08
Can anyone tell me if they have ever seen a game install to the PS3 and take up over 8.7Gb of HDD space?

Thanks.
bonusuk on 4 Feb '08
Can anyone tell me if they have ever seen a game install to the PS3 and take up over 8.7Gb of HDD space?

Thanks.

Not that I'm aware of. I think this has been the largest one to date. Hopefully this trend doesn't continue otherwise my 40GB HDD will be full eventually...
vulcanraven01 on 5 Feb '08
I used to love my speccie, top titles that I had screaming at me like a haridan during loads before usually crashing way back when were as follows:

Enduro Racer
Atic Atac
Space Harrier
Super Sprint
PeteTheFeet on 5 Feb '08

Not that I'm aware of. I think this has been the largest one to date. Hopefully this trend doesn't continue otherwise my 40GB HDD will be full eventually...

Pity help PS3 owners when developers actually start to utilise all that space on a Blu-Ray disc then.

At the moment they are no bigger than games which would fit onto a DVD and they're being installed to the hard drive because it'll load much faster than from the Blu-Ray.

It'll be funny when you need to install that 50Gb Blu-Ray game adn the 40Gb HDD isn't big enough.

Ouch.
bonusuk on 5 Feb '08
just installed the game, 20 mins is nothing.if the game is worth playing, i don't mind.
i'm not a DMC fan, played and finished only 1st and started a bit of DMC3.
the installing time was short,i managed to smoke a fag, wash up a couple of cups,stroke my cat, register and look at news in CVG,make a coffee , look at the screen and that was it (you could wait more for your pizza delivery).installation is optional.during process you get this review of stories from previous games.there's a music in background.
i'm hungry for some fast action where i can upgrade the weapons and admire the crisp graphics..now let's taste a bit of almighty capcom.
stellardust on 6 Feb '08
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