Microsoft will make sure that the Xbox 360 benefits most from the GTA IV launch, and from a content standpoint it "already owns it", says Microsoft Game Studios boss Shane Kim.
Speaking to US magazine Wired at the DICE summit, the Microsoft games boss said that making sure it owns the launch of Grand Theft Auto IV from a platform perspective "is really important."
"We already own it, I believe, from a content standpoint, because we have the exclusive episodes," he said. "And so Xbox 360 is still going to have the ultimate experience for GTA IV.
"But we have to make sure the customers know that." Especially, he adds, "if you look back, again, to the role of GTA III and what that played in terms of PS2's development - in Europe as well, because it was huge in Europe.
"That's a great opportunity for us. We need to take advantage of it."
The Rockstar sequel is released on both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 on April 29, which Kim says is going to make Microsoft's job harder at hogging the GTA spotlight.
"You absolutely have to work harder," he said. "You just can't lose sight of the fact that Sony obviously has a lot of experience and brand equity in this market. And we're still relatively young."
In Europe, says Kim, Microsoft is competing against an "established Competitor". "[Sony has] good equity in Europe. As I've said this morning, they've done a good job in ingraining Sony into the fabric of people's lives, in a broader sense. And so that means you just have to work harder.
"Even though we've managed to do a good job in terms of getting the game day and date, people still, if you just let things roll, will associate Grand Theft Auto as a PlayStation franchise. Which means that we have to work really hard to make people understand that no, it's not, and that you'll actually get a greater experience on Xbox 360."
So, let's have a row then. Which version are you buying? And will it take 22 minutes to install GTA on PS3?
Personally I haven't ordered either copy yet and i'm waiting to see if there's a noticeable difference between the two(which i seriously doubt there will be), excluseive content on the 360 is great but it's not going to be given away is it? And after shelling out Ł40 or even Ł60 for the special edition I wouldnt be dipping into my pocket for 800 points and about 1 hours play!
I'm still waiting to see the whole online situation with this game, I have a pre-order down for the PS3 version, as more of my friends own PS3's and that's the version they are getting. However this could easily change when they unveil the final details.
Sounds like they've got their heads screwed on, the 360 is doing amazingly well but its good to see they arent just sitting back on that. I have the 360 & PS3 & this is a no brainer, 360 all the way, extra DLC, achievements plus more friends on Live. I'm really starting to look 4ward to this game now, bring on April!.
Well being as I only have a 360 it will be that. I can't really see the average joe being swayed by exclusive D/C. Especially as everything is so overpriced. After paying 800pts for the Halo map pack and not being able to play any of them because my friends (sensibly) won't pay for them means I'm certainly reevaluating any purchases in the future.
Rockstar apparently delayed the release because of difficulties with the PS3 hardware so they obviously want the two versions to be as identical in quality as possible.
Whichever one you buy will undoubtedly be down to which console you prefer.
Not going to get either - not interested at all - I far prefered gta 1 and 2. The DLC will never sell a game to me - once I've paid for it I don't want to keep paying them more money.
All I've ever done is go round blowing things up and seeing how long i can survive before the cops kill me - the fun went out of the game a long time ago.
Now if it had a good multiplayer angle maybe I'd look again.
Still the original gta on the psn and I might buy that
Maybe it is because the 360 has more users?! What t*ats Microsoft are! Hey Microsoft how much you going to charge us for this DLC? The grape vine is saying Ł15-Ł20 you blood sucking f*ckers!
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
I'll get PS3 version for sure - I don't want to play GTA4 on my Xbox 360 for hours and hours - A recipe for RRoD!
thats a good point cause i'm pretty sure it was crackdown that buggered my last xbox. as for this DLC, i'm waiting for proper confirmation that its defo not coming to ps3 cause it wouldn't be like ms to say it's exclusive and then find out its only exclusive for 6 months. and to say they own gta makes them sound like a 10 year old in the playground
I had a dream the other night that I was playing GTA4. Well, actually I was in the game. Oh, and I could swing around like Spider Man. Was definitely GTA though, cos I stole a car and had a little drive. Great graphics!!
I will be honest i have both machines and i can see the point for both on the 360 side you have the whole rrod problem and it is a problem if you plan on playing games for hours a pop. But they are getting the exclusive dlc which bumps it up a bit more. Then theres the fail safe ps3 version but thats it no dlc and it may be Ł10.00 more expensive like devil may cry 4 oh and the store to hard drive thing could get anoying if all companies persue it as we will have no data left so that could put me of to. So on this gta may be better on 360.
hi guys just to let you know i work at game and youll be glad to no its gonna be the same price on both formats and the dlc is exclusive for 3 months then its on psn.
To be honest, Ill get the PS3 one, as thats what I own. DLC or not, It wont make me buy a 360.
Im a huge GTA fan since the start, did San AN to 100%.
I am interested to see how much the DLC will cost, ontop of the Game/XBL fee.
I think the reason MS are shouting so much is because they realise this is the largest and probably only upside in 2008 to shift more units. That said, I am sure Sony will have something to say about it too.
Two versions but one with DLC which considering the fee you can summise will be fairly hefty... so it has to be the 360 version.
I personally doubt the PS3 will ever get this content and i think also that if any new exclusive stuff was coming its way Sony would have made the annoucement by now to stop MS harking on about it. After all the game launches in what 3 months?
Ite seems most of the peeps bitching about the dlc dont own a 360 im quite happy to pay an extra tenner once ive completed the game to get more content lets face it PC games have had expansion packs for years so its nothing new and at the end of the day no matter which console you own this game is gonna be legend
Well i've only got a 360 so obviously i'll be gettin it for that but i've been gettin disc read errors lately, so fingers crossed its just the lense needing cleaned!!
If I did have a PS3 I wouldnt be so bothered about a 20 odd min instal time, would def be worth the wait! Would give me enought to to build a little fort, stock it up and barricade the door.
I suspect that GTAIV will do more to increase PS3 hardware sales than Xbox 360 ones, simply because there's millions of PS2 owners out there that won't be able to play this game on their platform and so may be tempted to finally take the plunge and upgrade. Sure, some may buy an Xbox 360 but the GTA series is better know on the PlayStation consoles so I suspect that GTAIV will do much better than Microsoft think. I don't think Xbox owners regard the game in quite the same esteem as Halo or Gears of War myself but we'll see...
PS3 version for me because I quite simply think it's the better machine and any time I have a choice I'd rather play a game on PS3. Since March 23rd 2007, my usually very heavy 360 usage has slowly declined, and now I'm at a point where I've barely switched it on in 6 months. I've cancelled Xbox Live and I don't even visit Xbox-specific news sites any more. PS3 is now, as you might put it, my "primary platform", just as the Xbox was in the last gen. I think I just side with whichever machine is most powerful... or maybe I side with the underdog... or maybe I just side with whoever has the big black console.
Oh and I should add that I'll buy whichever version of GTAIV is better technically, the exclusive 360 DLC will have no bearing on my final decision as I'm sure the game will offer plenty of content without it.
My interest in this game at all depends on what Volition/THQ show next of Saint's Row 2. Because I don't want two open-worlders, in this vein.(One of them will just gather dust - probably GTA)
GTA 3 had character, was really good fun and the previous two as well, ditto the fantastic Vice City - These games successfully sold, and fleshed out, their premise, and purpose...wtf was the much hyped San Andreas about?
Conversely, Saint's Row had character, and was fun...The ball's in Rockstar's court, and I'm not chasing trailers and bloody countdowns round the web with my tongue lolled, either! Were I to get the game in question, it'd be on PS3.
My interest in this game at all depends on what Volition/THQ show next of Saint's Row 2. Because I don't want two open-worlders, in this vein.(One of them will just gather dust - probably GTA)
GTA 3 had character, was really good fun and the previous two as well, ditto the fantastic Vice City - These games successfully sold, and fleshed out, their premise, and purpose...wtf was the much hyped San Andreas about?
Conversely, Saint's Row had character, and was fun...The ball's in Rockstar's court, and I'm not chasing trailers and bloody countdowns round the web with my tongue lolled, either! Were I to get the game in question, it'd be on PS3.
come on, saints row couldn't hold a candle to gta. its like comparing a bottle of champagne to buckfast. it was good but it just made me pine for san andreas.
1. I'm not prepared to pay for GTA4 DLC, especially if that money is mostly going into Microsoft's pocket and not Rock Star's.
2. GTA4 DLC probably won't be worth it anyway considering how big the game is, so its a waste of time thinking about it.
3. Not sure I'd get either PS3 or 360 version as the PC version will - as usual - be better than any / all console versions.
4. Am tempted to just wait and see what this title is like and see what all the early adopters do about bugs and patches. More realistic over cartoony, not sure yet if that will be a good / bad thing. Rock Star don't usually mess up, but there's a first time for everything.
360 version for me as I only have a 360. The DLC is not a massive swinger, more concern for PS3 owners should be the delay incurred for their version. I recall The Orange Box was delayed to fix PS3 'difficulties' & the game was still released with crippling slowdown, etc. Will this happen to GTA4 despite extra programming time? It makes me chuckle too to hear PS3 owners hounding the 360 for it's technical problems, how quickly we forget the PS2's poor reliability rate last gen, did Sony offer to fix your faltering laser for free?
I've got both a 360 and PS3 but I'll be getting the 360 version for a few reasons... - 360's the only console to get the 'complete' GTA4 experience due to the exclusive episodic DLC - They've been using the 360 version to promote the game leading me to believe it'll be the better version - Controller will be better suited due to PS3's crappy shoulder/trigger buttons potentially ruining the PS3 experience - 360 version has achievements - 360 version will hopefully be cheaper
In regards to the article, 360 should own the launch as it has the larger user base, the exclusive content and Rockstar have constantly used the 360 version for public use. However, I know a few Sony fanboys that are under the illusion that the game will be better on PS3 due to Blu-Ray and PS3 being the 'more powerful console'... So yes, I imagine there's more of them out there so MS need to make ensure they get the facts straight for those people.
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
You dont even know that they will charge, if M$ release it for free (which they could easily afford to do), it would be a massive coup. Thing is even if it is free, the little ps fanboys like yourself will still bash it.
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
your posts in this thread are all absolute rubbish. why do you feel the need to be personally abusive?
you dont know the facts as to how much the DLC will cost, plus it is extra content not in the standard version so how do you end up paying more for less? surely it is more for more?!!!
somehow deep down i always had you pegged for a buckie drinker. bet you never leave the toenails either. u don't happen to hail from airdrie do u? nae offence intended
yer i agree the ps2 had problems no where near as bad as the 360 dont get me wrong i own both consoles, but theres not one day that goes by when im in game and a customer brings in a faulty 360 they just rushed crappy hardware out and ultra loud fans.
well those xbox360 ppl grasping for the "extra" DLC will have to realise..at somepoint, extra content will be available to ps3 versions..with the option of user modding (see UT3) - who knows!..but the microsoft wouldn't allow modding on its system.
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
your posts in this thread are all absolute rubbish. why do you feel the need to be personally abusive?
you dont know the facts as to how much the DLC will cost, plus it is extra content not in the standard version so how do you end up paying more for less? surely it is more for more?!!!
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
What are you talking about? Firstly downloadadle content will be 800 points which is roughly Ł7 so where your getting Ł15-Ł20 I don't know, and secondly its an optional extra that the PS3 version won't have. Thats right an extra, so 360 users get the same game for the same price or even cheaper if DMC4 is anything to go but. Check your facts fanboy. Just for your info I have both a PS3 and a 360 but I'll get the 360 version, more of my friends have a 360, the achievements do add something wether you like it or not and its nice to have extra DC if I want it.
Personally, I find it refreshing that a Microsoft employee didn't actually sling muck at Sony, and instead said they would put the work in to ensure there's was the best. Quite shocking in fact.
Rockstar announced recently that the ps3 will get DLC for GTA4 - it may or may nto be the same as the 360 but it will get some.
Personally I don't give a crap about either. If I was going to get the game (which I'm not) i'd choose the one which you can use a keyboard on as I've always preferred gta on the pc
hi guys just to let you know i work at game and youll be glad to no its gonna be the same price on both formats and the dlc is exclusive for 3 months then its on psn.
The fact you said in your post "i work at game " makes everything else you've said rubbish i doubt very much you will see the dlc on psn for at least 12 months if its released on psn at all!
Well i got both 360 and a blu-ray player aka ps3 and one of these days i hope to get a game for my ps3 but this won't be it. With the 360's contoler in which i prefer to the ps3's and the option of DLC plus the probabilaty of the 360 version being cheaper the 360 wins hands down for me.
P.S I know there was a post from some one that works in GAME about price and DLC but there's no way i'm taking any notice of the window lickers that game have working for them.
Its inevitable that both the PS3 and Xbox 360 will get DLC, I reckon that there will be general DLC i.e stuff that appears on both platforms, new cars maybe, weapons, that kind of thing but the episodes will likely be purely Xbox 360. Sentimentality and GTA being a "Playstation" game apart, gaming is about business and Rockstar aren't going to take Ł50m off Microsoft and put the same stuff on PS3 for free, Sony dropped the ball on that and weren't prepared to pay for extra content, whether that comes back to bite them who knows, both versions will at the offset likely be identical anyway as we've seen technically both machines seem very very similar when it comes to multi platform games.
I've got both a 360 and PS3 but I'll be getting the 360 version for a few reasons... - 360's the only console to get the 'complete' GTA4 experience due to the exclusive episodic DLC - They've been using the 360 version to promote the game leading me to believe it'll be the better version - Controller will be better suited due to PS3's crappy shoulder/trigger buttons potentially ruining the PS3 experience - 360 version has achievements - 360 version will hopefully be cheaper
and they're the reasons im getting the 360 one to and not the ps3 version, if hopefully my 360 (how i miss thee)comes back soon from MS....damn you RROD
hi guys just to let you know i work at game and youll be glad to no its gonna be the same price on both formats and the dlc is exclusive for 3 months then its on psn.
The fact you said in your post "i work at game " makes everything else you've said rubbish i doubt very much you will see the dlc on psn for at least 12 months if its released on psn at all!
So working at GAME means you're in the know? If anything, all the GAME employee's I've ever met know less than your average fan. This DLC is exclusive to 360. It's not timed and PS3 won't be getting exclusive DLC either. However, there may be universal DLC, ie on both consoles but not on the same scale as 360's exclusive DLC. Also, like someone said, the DLC won't be released until about 6 months after release, but that's the whole point in DLC, to bring life to a game that people may be done and dusted with.
Its inevitable that both the PS3 and Xbox 360 will get DLC, I reckon that there will be general DLC i.e stuff that appears on both platforms, new cars maybe, weapons, that kind of thing but the episodes will likely be purely Xbox 360. Sentimentality and GTA being a "Playstation" game apart, gaming is about business and Rockstar aren't going to take Ł50m off Microsoft and put the same stuff on PS3 for free, Sony dropped the ball on that and weren't prepared to pay for extra content, whether that comes back to bite them who knows, both versions will at the offset likely be identical anyway as we've seen technically both machines seem very very similar when it comes to multi platform games.
microsoft chucked they're money first and secured an exclusive deal. but that may just be a timed deal. yes sony should have had something in place already what with they're past history with rockstar but they fumbled and ms caught it. still, give it 6 months and i'm sure the dlc will appear on psn
Definately the PS3 version for me. Expensive downloadable content holds absolutely no interest or incentive for me and I would rather play the game on a console I feel isn't going to f**k up after extensive useage.
Also, 'well done' to the CVG journo again for making such an issue of PS3 installation time. This is not nearly as much of an important issue to actual PS3 owners as you seem to think. I frankly couldn't care less.
Well i got both 360 and a blu-ray player aka ps3 and one of these days i hope to get a game for my ps3 but this won't be it. With the 360's contoler in which i prefer to the ps3's and the option of DLC plus the probabilaty of the 360 version being cheaper the 360 wins hands down for me.
P.S I know there was a post from some one that works in GAME about price and DLC but there's no way i'm taking any notice of the window lickers that game have working for them.
window lickers ha ha ha ha ha that comment is legend, also people keep bitching about 360s noise levels what a load of s**te you can barely hear the bloody thing unless of course you all play consoles with the sound off we all know ps3 owners are just feelin put out cause 360 is getting the extra content before them
Blimey, more theatrics from console manufacturers bleating their repetitious brand of self-righteous bile to the already-converted.
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.
The only sober thing the guy says is that Playstation has a very strong brand association with the GTA franchise. But in my mind, so does Crash Bandicoot, and that's one of most mediocre franchises ever conceived. My point? Nothing. Which is exactly my point.
Blimey, more theatrics from console manufacturers bleating their repetitious brand of self-righteous bile to the already-converted.
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.
The only sober thing the guy says is that Playstation has a very strong brand association with the GTA franchise. But in my mind, so does Crash Bandicoot, and that's one of most mediocre franchises ever conceived. My point? Nothing. Which is exactly my point.
None of this matters!
Still, better than one of the big three saying the other two are s**t. I guess...
hi guys just to let you know i work at game and youll be glad to no its gonna be the same price on both formats and the dlc is exclusive for 3 months then its on psn.
I havent heard anything about the 360 DLC coming to PSN. Have you any more solid info?
GTA is a PS game not an xbox game so PS3 is the choice for me. Don't really want to get raped by MS!
GTA is a game for whatever freaking console it comes out for. Saying its a PS game and not a 360 game makes you look like a right fool.
So by your reckoning sonic shouldn't be on the nintendo or any other console for that matter because it originally came out for the saga consoles. Get a grip.
GTA is a PS game not an xbox game so PS3 is the choice for me. Don't really want to get raped by MS!
GTA is a game for whatever freaking console it comes out for. Saying its a PS game and not a 360 game makes you look like a right fool.
So by your reckoning sonic shouldn't be on the nintendo or any other console for that matter because it originally came out for the saga consoles. Get a grip.
Not really. When I think of GTA I also think of Playstation and a lot of other people do as well. If you think Halo you think XBOX. Get a grip!
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
Nope, i know DLC costs money (duh). I mean that the retail price of ps3 games is generally 10 quid more than xbox games. And if u think that when Sony finally get around to providing DLC that you are going to get it free, you are in for a shock IDIOT!
saints row was f**king b******s! get a grip of yourself mate. it in no way beats any GTA game that has been released! san an had no character?!
At no point in "what I said" did I claim Saint's Row to have beaten any GTA game, just that I found it more enjoyable - though I will say with all confidence that it wiped the floor with SA.
Unfortunately, I felt my day-one San Andreas purchase had been a mistake, after less than a week of playing. The situation and gameplay presented was under realised and a little underwhelming, compared to previous GTAs. Rockstar have yet to fully (gameplay footage, NOT edited together montages; media hands-on prompting previews - that sort of thing) show GTA IV, and I'll be keen to see a more illustrative overview of what's on offer. My enthusiasm's stronger for SR2 atm, which itself has yet to be detailed.
I'd rather get it on PS3 so it 'feels' right as i'm not bothered about waiting 6 months for new episodic content that'll cost too much and probably be online orientated. However if the 360 is better then naturally i'll get that one.
hi guys just to let you know i work at game and youll be glad to no its gonna be the same price on both formats and the dlc is exclusive for 3 months then its on psn.
I havent heard anything about the 360 DLC coming to PSN. Have you any more solid info?
That's because it's rubbish and has never been reported. MS may be loaded but one suspects they don't shell out 50mil for 3 months exclusivety.
I think both consoles will get some level of DLC content provided by R* but the episodic content, which from reports sounds like it will substantially add to the game, will be exclusive to the 360 at least for the forseeable future.
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
Nope, i know DLC costs money (duh). I mean that the retail price of ps3 games is generally 10 quid more than xbox games. And if u think that when Sony finally get around to providing DLC that you are going to get it free, you are in for a shock IDIOT!
i dont think DLC will come on ps3, and if it does, its obvious that it will need to be paid for.. f**king idiot!
every ps3 game ive bought has been Ł40. ive never seen seen a game listed at more.
Other than Fight Night Round 3, every 3rd party title has been equal or better on the 360 than the PS3. Add to that the development woes Rockstar had with the 360, the exclusive content, XBL multiplayer, and the rumor-that-won't-die about a 360 price drop to coincide with GTA 4's release, and it's obvious the 360 version will be superior...just like all the other 3rd party titles (save for one.)
This type of content will always be timed exclusive, and if not, something similar will be on the PS3 version eventually.
Saying that i couldn't give a rats ass because i'm not getting the game, it seems as though they prettied up the graphics and then took away all the fun from it, the huge environments, the mountains etc. and added way too much realism. Sure, i don't mind a police chasing me when i steal a car etc., but not to such an extent you take a taxi everywhere...
I'll be having fun with FPS when this comes out.
Though i'd get the PS3 version if i did have it purely because i like the controller and couldn't care about extra content, i barely complete the GTA games anyway, i just drive about causing chaos. Though M$ do have a good deal, it is still multi-format so they'll get more game sales but it won't exactly sell 360's.
As for prices i very rarely see a game for more than Ł40 for PS3 because i am not an idiot and go to places different to GAME and Gamestation. Onldy game i have seen for more than Ł40, is Oblivion, and hell, i don't care it was worth it.
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
Nope, i know DLC costs money (duh). I mean that the retail price of ps3 games is generally 10 quid more than xbox games. And if u think that when Sony finally get around to providing DLC that you are going to get it free, you are in for a shock IDIOT!
i dont think DLC will come on ps3, and if it does, its obvious that it will need to be paid for.. f**king idiot!
every ps3 game ive bought has been Ł40. ive never seen seen a game listed at more.
I agree with Shane Kim and i think GTA will be better on 360 however Rockstar have managed to make the graphics look dodgey again and so both the versions will look bad imo.
Other than Fight Night Round 3, every 3rd party title has been equal or better on the 360 than the PS3. Add to that the development woes Rockstar had with the 360, the exclusive content, XBL multiplayer, and the rumor-that-won't-die about a 360 price drop to coincide with GTA 4's release, and it's obvious the 360 version will be superior...just like all the other 3rd party titles (save for one.)
How is the view from your high horse? The vast majority of third party titles are identical on both machines, with the exception of The Orange box, Pro Evo '08 and the PS3's superior Oblivion.
But you are correct that, at the moment, the PS3 is doing a pretty good job of emulating the inferior and less powerful 360, minus the shocking and still unfixed 30 percent failure rate.
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
Nope, i know DLC costs money (duh). I mean that the retail price of ps3 games is generally 10 quid more than xbox games. And if u think that when Sony finally get around to providing DLC that you are going to get it free, you are in for a shock IDIOT!
i dont think DLC will come on ps3, and if it does, its obvious that it will need to be paid for.. f**king idiot!
every ps3 game ive bought has been Ł40. ive never seen seen a game listed at more.
I'm serious LOL I also have a friend that works at blockbuster and on the computers there, the staff labeled the 360 the "chavbox360" LOL
It could just be this part of the country, but either way, it's the truith.
Do you understand that you sound like an absolute fool?! So by your logic, any consoles thats popular is a "chav console"? Of course 'chavs' will buy 360 though, for the same reason they bought PS2's last gen; - Most popular gamers console - Affordable price
As for someone that said GTA is a PS game, WTF?! You do realize that GTA3, Vice City and San Andrea's were also on Xbox 1, and would have been released at the same time as the PS2 versions if Sony didn't have the 12 month exclusivity deal on GTA3 and Vice City. Saying GTA is the same as Halo for Xbox is ignorant. Also, I fear for GTA4 on PS3 due to the controller. The game constantly uses the triggers, of which you fingers easily slip off the SixAxis horrid attempt to emulate the 360 controller.
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
Nope, i know DLC costs money (duh). I mean that the retail price of ps3 games is generally 10 quid more than xbox games. And if u think that when Sony finally get around to providing DLC that you are going to get it free, you are in for a shock IDIOT!
i dont think DLC will come on ps3, and if it does, its obvious that it will need to be paid for.. f**king idiot!
every ps3 game ive bought has been Ł40. ive never seen seen a game listed at more.
Then you're blind.
More like you are blind!
Ooooh good come back, witty, intellgent...
Yeah almost as intelligent as your spelling you pleb!
I'm serious LOL I also have a friend that works at blockbuster and on the computers there, the staff labeled the 360 the "chavbox360" LOL
It could just be this part of the country, but either way, it's the truith.
Do you understand that you sound like an absolute fool?! So by your logic, any consoles thats popular is a "chav console"? Of course 'chavs' will buy 360 though, for the same reason they bought PS2's last gen; - Most popular gamers console - Affordable price
As for someone that said GTA is a PS game, WTF?! You do realize that GTA3, Vice City and San Andrea's were also on Xbox 1, and would have been released at the same time as the PS2 versions if Sony didn't have the 12 month exclusivity deal on GTA3 and Vice City. Saying GTA is the same as Halo for Xbox is ignorant. Also, I fear for GTA4 on PS3 due to the controller. The game constantly uses the triggers, of which you fingers easily slip off the SixAxis horrid attempt to emulate the 360 controller.
Yes I know GTA 3, vice and San An were on the Xbox but IMO GTA is a playstation brand.
I'm serious LOL I also have a friend that works at blockbuster and on the computers there, the staff labeled the 360 the "chavbox360" LOL
It could just be this part of the country, but either way, it's the truith.
you what?! you work in a games store and your friend works in blockbuster and you are calling others chavs?
i find that people who buy sony products (not including PS3) generally dont know any better. usually you can find another manufacturer selling a better or equal spec product for less (i am excluding consoles from this general statement).
I'm serious LOL I also have a friend that works at blockbuster and on the computers there, the staff labeled the 360 the "chavbox360" LOL
It could just be this part of the country, but either way, it's the truith.
you what?! you work in a games store and your friend works in blockbuster and you are calling others chavs?
i find that people who buy sony products (not including PS3) generally dont know any better. usually you can find another manufacturer selling a better or equal spec product for less (i am excluding consoles from this general statement).
LOLZ
I do agree though. Some buy a product based on brand name, which is what a few people have done with PS3 due to PS2 winning last gen. Thankfully it seems that there aren't too many idiots as atm, PS3 is in last place where it deserves to be if we take into account software.
Vercetti, please can you grow up and stop posting your fanboy bulls**t. You're guessing cost of DLC, what that will be, when it'll be released etc.
Your entire post is ranting at thin air, as per usual. Sure there must be some nice PS forum where you can go and propagandise away with all of your fellow Sony employee workmates?
Well, i own a 360 but not a ps3, so it's a no brainer as to which version i will be getting. The extra content would have sealed the deal anyway even if i did have a ps3. I mean why pay more money for less game?
do u think the DLC is free?! idiot!
proportionally its 360 owners (that buy DLC) that are paying more money for less game! seriously ripped off. Ł15-Ł20 per "episode" x 2 + Ł40 = Ł70-Ł80 for the "complete experience"
thats up to TWICE the price, do u get TWICE the game? nothing near it!!
Nope, i know DLC costs money (duh). I mean that the retail price of ps3 games is generally 10 quid more than xbox games. And if u think that when Sony finally get around to providing DLC that you are going to get it free, you are in for a shock IDIOT!
i dont think DLC will come on ps3, and if it does, its obvious that it will need to be paid for.. f**king idiot!
every ps3 game ive bought has been Ł40. ive never seen seen a game listed at more.
Just thought I'd add, did anyone honestly think while playing GTA3/Vice City/SanAndreas, "There aren't enough cars"? "I wish I could download more missions" ?
I sure didn't, thought they were lengthy and well paced enough.
Just thought I'd add, did anyone honestly think while playing GTA3/Vice City/SanAndreas, "There aren't enough cars"? "I wish I could download more missions" ?
I sure didn't, thought they were lengthy and well paced enough.
With all those games, I got them to 100% complete which took about 6-8 months, then traded them in. Hopefully this exclusive 360 DLC is good enough to stop me from doing the same with GTA4.
And also, last gen DLC wasn't as plausible or popular as it is now, especially with PS2...
It'd be a good sting in the ring if the DLC was just collecting 50 clams or oysters so 360 owners could get the 100% ratio. Would anyone fork out for that?
fanboy comments from the games companies now! "we already own it" - f**king t**t.
LOL
A 'fanboy comment' from a Microsoft employee who's job is to promote his company and his console. Well that's nto called fanboyism, that's called doing his job. Seems to me that YOU are the fanboy, unless you're on Sony's payroll???
i own a PS3 and i personally think its the best thing since sliced bread lol even tho the games are few and far between
i am going to purchace a 360 for exclusive games/content and for xbox live but for games that are on both consoles and are exactly the same i will get them on PS3 because i have always grown up with playstations and i think i would prefer them (not sayin that XBOX is crap mind lol) only bad thing i would have with XBOX is the different controllers but i suppose i'll get used to it
back to the point im getting it for PS3
and for the DLC nobody will know until R* says and personally for Ł50 mill MS will have said in the contract that they only get the DLC
I'd like to thank you carter1983 for admiting you work at GAME. I've had alot of bad luck lately myself i've lost all my money when i invested in northen rock shares my house burnt down when my cat pluged it's tail into a power point and ran round on fire and i lost both my legs in a chainsaw miss-hap.But carter you are living proof there's always some one worse off then you're self. (well i challenge any one to find some one worse off then a GAME employie.)
PS3 for me, all my mates 360s drives (used to be 6, now 4 are PS3 converts) make noises I hadn't heard since the last time I was in a car with my mither, everytime she changes gear I expect to see the RRoD appear on the dash.
Install times? 20mins? To hell with that, I want an hour!
T minus 60 mins: Insert PS3 gameSkin upPut kettle onMake TeaHave wank (GF optional)Smoke jazz cigaretteHave shower (GF optional)Get dressed (optional) 3,2,1, Sit down, fully refreshed & 'own' GTA
& for the people that have never seen a PS3 game over Ł40, please visit your local branch of HMV...
As for the Game employees haters, they may not know what they are talking about but are pleasant enough, unlike PC World oxygen thieves.
for games that are on both consoles and are exactly the same i will get them on PS3 because i have always grown up with playstations and i think i would prefer them
Let me get this straight, if two games are on different consoles BUT EXACTLY THE SAME you would prefer them on a Playstation because you have always grown up with them?
If two games are exactly the same, then how can you prefer one over another? Closet fanboy alert me thinks. And as for growing up with playstations, I think you'd be better off just concentrating on growing up to start with.
What does it matter? Just buy it on whatever console you prefer, or whatever one you happen to own. All this willy waving mine is better than yours crap gets rather grating after seeing it on more or less every thread.
As for the article itself: yes MS probably will get a larger slice of the GTA4 pie, simply because the user base is so much larger. It's just some plonker spouting the obvious and adding in a few dumb claims that mean very little. Same old stuff that I've come to expect from MS, Sony, and Nintendo of late. Downloadable content may persuade the few people that actually know or even care about it, but it's hardly going to result a flood of extra sales.
Blah Blah more Microsoft B***S*** Shame you cant boast how reliable ure xbox360's are. Brand new xbox elite red ringed within 3 months. Sony gets my vote and money and guess what i still get too play the new GTA game.
well i've ordered the ps3 version as i don't have a 369, just a wii and ps3. guess i'll just have to wait for the dlc stuff. i'm sure the game's big enough as it is anyway. let's just hope it ain't banned like manhunt 2 here
I thought that it would be Rockstar that would "own" the GTA IV launch and they probably don't care too much which format you buy so long as you buy it. They probably don't care about the DLC for the 360 too much either as they have their $50 million and when they hand it over, whatever it turns out to be, to MS I would guess that they will see very little more cash regardless of how many it sells.
Im going for the HD consol, who wants to be limited by less pixel quility? Also GTA4 is going to be such a big game that dlc will be a waste of time. that 50 million dollers will be going to youtube for me to watch while i play on a nice o'll big screen with that Ps3 with the free online play. in australia i'v been paying for lame online xbox becuase im relying on someone elses connection i hear sony is the connecion provider did i mention free?
That would be super other wise i'll be getting ratchet and clank. Which seems fair but i have never played that series before but i guess it would be a good warmup to get use to the controller.
I dont know why ppl say the first console to have GTA was PS1 it was actually the PC.
Im lookin forward to the PC version of GTA IV in october to be honest.. then i can play it online with mods, only this time its gonna be totally smooth and not like the GTA SA-MP mod, even though that is fun.
(1) Grand Theft Auto 4 on the Xbox 360 has TWO "Exclusive" episodes that will be available ONLY to Xbox 360 owners.
(2) Microsoft paid $50 million dollars for the exclusive episodes in Grand Theft Auto 4.
(3) Each of the two Xbox 360 exclusive episodes adds approximately 10 hours of gameplay to Grand Theft Auto 4.
(4) The Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto 4 was ready to be released before Christmas; that is why we saw so many excellent demos on the Xbox 360, but none on the Playstation 3.
(5) Due to the very common Playstation 3 "development problems" the game was delayed for both systems due to a rule in the contract that says no version of the game can be released prior to the Playstation 3 release. That is why Microsoft originally announced that the Xbox 360 version would be released "on the same day as the Playstation 3 version."
(6) Based on these statements from Shane Kim, it appears that Microsoft is REALLY going to drive home the FACT that the Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto 4 is the best version available. This will have a significant impact in North America, but even moreso in Europe--where Grand Theft Auto is especially popular.
If Microsoft lowered the price of the Xbox 360 across Europe at the same time that Grand Theft Auto 4 becomes available, and marketed them together in the correct ways, it would really have an excellent chance for a HUGE marketing and sales victory for the Xbox 360 in Europe.
Let's all be honest here; no-one really cares that much about the 'DLC', it is just being used as a baiting point by 360 fanboys blowing their trumphet on here.
At some point it will come to the other console, but I think M$ have messed up paying Ł50M for it, as it will not affect sales in the slightest imo.
it might have been a immature phrase to use for an exec. , but, it will count for alot with this game, i personally think this game is overrated but it will count alot towards sales, if you think otherwise you're either thick or have sony-glasses on...
PS3 for me, all my mates 360s drives (used to be 6, now 4 are PS3 converts) make noises I hadn't heard since the last time I was in a car with my mither, everytime she changes gear I expect to see the RRoD appear on the dash.
Install times? 20mins? To hell with that, I want an hour!
T minus 60 mins: Insert PS3 gameSkin upPut kettle onMake TeaHave wank (GF optional)Smoke jazz cigaretteHave shower (GF optional)Get dressed (optional) 3,2,1, Sit down, fully refreshed & 'own' GTA
& for the people that have never seen a PS3 game over Ł40, please visit your local branch of HMV...
As for the Game employees haters, they may not know what they are talking about but are pleasant enough, unlike PC World oxygen thieves.
That is all.
you're a student arent you.... with the 'skin up the spliff' nonsense.... get a life and move on and get some charles on the scene...
Blah Blah more Microsoft B***S*** Shame you cant boast how reliable ure xbox360's are. Brand new xbox elite red ringed within 3 months. Sony gets my vote and money and guess what i still get too play the new GTA game.
ive got both consoles and i think you're lie-ing about owning a 360 elite... how you like them apples (you're a sony fanbot arent you?!????)
i own a PS3 and i personally think its the best thing since sliced bread lol even tho the games are few and far between
i am going to purchace a 360 for exclusive games/content and for xbox live but for games that are on both consoles and are exactly the same i will get them on PS3 because i have always grown up with playstations and i think i would prefer them (not sayin that XBOX is crap mind lol) only bad thing i would have with XBOX is the different controllers but i suppose i'll get used to it
back to the point im getting it for PS3
and for the DLC nobody will know until R* says and personally for Ł50 mill MS will have said in the contract that they only get the DLC
ive grown up with atari consoles, phillips videopac, commodore amiga, atari st, sega, nintendo,sony ps, ms xbox and a pc..... i personally think this game is overrated and will get it for the 360 cos of the dividends from various aspects (take your pick from achievements and dlc or whatever), not because i love a brand...if the ps3 offered what the 360 version had i would get the ps3 version....grow up and accept that ms pulled the rug from under sony on this game!!!!!
Looks like lots of people with "no brainers" here.
i know.... i dont claim to have invented it but its been used plenty after i used it on the first reply on this thread hasnt it lol.... anyway, im off to play UT3 on my ps3.....although ill get it for my 360 at the end of march (more flame for fanboys lol).
you're a student arent you.... with the 'skin up the spliff' nonsense.... get a life and move on and get some charles on the scene...
Charlie? Pfft...I think not, when will you people hoovering crap up your nose figure out everyone thinks you're an a-hole with yer chemically enhanced ego & your me me me banter? Since when was snorting something off of a grotty toilet cistern 'moving on'?
FYI I'm not a student, I work for a living thank you.
Next time have the common decency to keep it on topic, pick a better argument and a better drug for that matter.
you're a student arent you.... with the 'skin up the spliff' nonsense.... get a life and move on and get some charles on the scene...
Charlie? Pfft...I think not, when will you people hoovering crap up your nose figure out everyone thinks you're an a-hole with yer chemically enhanced ego & your me me me banter? Since when was snorting something off of a grotty toilet cistern 'moving on'?
FYI I'm not a student, I work for a living thank you.
Next time have the common decency to keep it on topic, pick a better argument and a better drug for that matter.
Kids these days...
you may not be a student but i bet you have a beard dont you.... go 'schmoke' your spliff outside the pub with your mature student mates... BTW, i thought it was only the beano or viz that uses 'Pfft' ... ill stick to hoovering 'crap' and you carry on clinging onto that student image of yours and keep growing that beard and listening to the orb or whatever...
Fo shizzle ma...oh I canna be bothered, if I ever make it to amsterdam I'll buy a bong just for you...& a comedy beard to satisfy your weirdy beardy fetish...
Fo shizzle ma...oh I canna be bothered, if I ever make it to amsterdam I'll buy a bong just for you...& a comedy beard to satisfy your weirdy beardy fetish...
(1) Grand Theft Auto 4 on the Xbox 360 has TWO "Exclusive" episodes that will be available ONLY to Xbox 360 owners.
(2) Microsoft paid $50 million dollars for the exclusive episodes in Grand Theft Auto 4.
(3) Each of the two Xbox 360 exclusive episodes adds approximately 10 hours of gameplay to Grand Theft Auto 4.
(4) The Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto 4 was ready to be released before Christmas; that is why we saw so many excellent demos on the Xbox 360, but none on the Playstation 3.
(5) Due to the very common Playstation 3 "development problems" the game was delayed for both systems due to a rule in the contract that says no version of the game can be released prior to the Playstation 3 release. That is why Microsoft originally announced that the Xbox 360 version would be released "on the same day as the Playstation 3 version."
(6) Based on these statements from Shane Kim, it appears that Microsoft is REALLY going to drive home the FACT that the Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto 4 is the best version available. This will have a significant impact in North America, but even moreso in Europe--where Grand Theft Auto is especially popular.
If Microsoft lowered the price of the Xbox 360 across Europe at the same time that Grand Theft Auto 4 becomes available, and marketed them together in the correct ways, it would really have an excellent chance for a HUGE marketing and sales victory for the Xbox 360 in Europe.
classic charlie fiend, all those words & nothing worthwhile to say...enjoy your crack pipe Amy
and you enjoy your cheap block with that novelty bong that you got brought back from amsterdam as a souvenier with your bearded mates.... Snoop
Are you two actually arguing about which drug is 'cooler' or better? Get a grip guys, pot makes you a lazy f**kwit (believe me, I have quite a few mates who smoke it and they become complete idiots who can't be bothered to do anything) and coke makes you a hyper idiot. Neither is cool.
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FFS why cant people clean up after themselves.
u don't happen to hail from airdrie do u? nae offence intended 
Just to be different from everybody else 
