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Dark Sector PS3 was nearly canned - DE

"But we ended up pulling it off," says Digital Extremes. Phew... there's a relief
The PlayStation 3 version of Digital Extreme's glaive-flinging shooter Dark Sector was almost canned, producer Josh Austin has revealed.

"This is the PS3 version," Austin said while demoing the game recently.

"It looks just as good as the 360 version, which we're very happy about. Towards the end we started having some serious conversations about what we were going to do, but we ended up pulling it off, so we're very proud of that.

"It was just not running as well as the 360," he added.

Usually this'd be the bit where we rant on about how PS3 multi-platform problems should've been ironed out by now. But we've got the Sony version of Dark Sector right in front of us and it runs lovely, like. So there you are.

The sci-fi slasher is still on for a worldwide release on both Xbox 360 and PS3 next month, and it's shaping up rather nicely.

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'It's getting hard to put it on PS3 so maybe we should just not do it at all'

How the hell did these guys get their jobs if they can't even make a game on a PS3.
CrispyLog on 27 Feb '08
Looking forward to this. Could be a nice alternative to Gears of War for us plucky Ps3 owners. Certainly looks as good graphically. If the gameplay is good then this could be a darkhorse.

Never mind exclusive games, some of the multi platform games are looking fantastic this year. Dark Sector being one of them. Oh, and GTA4. And Midnight Club 3. And maybe Battlefield 3. Possibly Saints row 2. Or Just Cause 2. Or new Tomb Raider. The list goes on.......
Mark240473 on 27 Feb '08
im not being a fanboy as i own both consoles but playing uncharted i can see what the ps3 can do if took time to develope, i hear that the 360 is easy to develope for and the ps3 is hard and expensive. bulls**t put a decent game out worthy of the ps3 and im sure they will make there money back.
carter1983 on 27 Feb '08
bulls**t put a decent game out worthy of the ps3 and im sure they will make there money back.

The problem you have is that if you want to make a next gen exclusive then developers will favor 360 for the following reasons;
- Easy to develop for
- Less expensive
- Larger user-base to make profit from

I do agree with you though. If someone does put the effort in to make a decent PS3 exclusive that takes advantage of the hardware then there's a profit to be made. It's the same for any console but the problem with PS3 atm is that we haven't had an example of an exclusive that's sold so well that other developers want to follow suite. Perhaps MGS4 will change that though...
vulcanraven01 on 27 Feb '08
bulls**t put a decent game out worthy of the ps3 and im sure they will make there money back.

The problem you have is that if you want to make a next gen exclusive then developers will favor 360 for the following reasons;
- Easy to develop for
- Less expensive
- Larger user-base to make profit from

I do agree with you though. If someone does put the effort in to make a decent PS3 exclusive that takes advantage of the hardware then there's a profit to be made. It's the same for any console but the problem with PS3 atm is that we haven't had an example of an exclusive that's sold so well that other developers want to follow suite. Perhaps MGS4 will change that though...

How well did Uncharted sell? That was a top class exclusive! Also I am sure motorstorm and RFOM sold way over the 1mil mark.
Johnny_5 on 27 Feb '08
How well did Uncharted sell? That was a top class exclusive! Also I am sure motorstorm and RFOM sold way over the 1mil mark.

No doubt been part of every PS3 bundle helped those titles Wink
Toasted_PSP on 27 Feb '08
bulls**t put a decent game out worthy of the ps3 and im sure they will make there money back.

The problem you have is that if you want to make a next gen exclusive then developers will favor 360 for the following reasons;
- Easy to develop for
- Less expensive
- Larger user-base to make profit from

I do agree with you though. If someone does put the effort in to make a decent PS3 exclusive that takes advantage of the hardware then there's a profit to be made. It's the same for any console but the problem with PS3 atm is that we haven't had an example of an exclusive that's sold so well that other developers want to follow suite. Perhaps MGS4 will change that though...

How well did Uncharted sell? That was a top class exclusive! Also I am sure motorstorm and RFOM sold way over the 1mil mark.

Actually, uncharted did pretty poorly despite being a top game. Resistance and motorstorm were both crap but the early release and bundled consoles helped them sell a lot.
DAEDALUS79 on 27 Feb '08
The PS3 is suffering much like the original xbox was. It's all very well having more power as long as a company is willing to work harder to utilise it.

With multiformat titles the developer will always use the console with the biggest installed base as their watermark with only the smallest of improvements made to conversions for the more powerful hardware. PS owners are bound to be frustrated, like xbox owners were of the previous generation that multi format games don't use the added power of their console.

However, the PS3 installed base, by all accounts is rapidly improving so there are bound to be games that show the PS3 difference. At the moment it must be quite irritating that the developers always comment on the struggle to make their games run just as well on the PS3, but it's going to keep happening, the architectures of the two consoles are remarkably different.

If the 360 is so easy to develop for then why don't developers use the PS3 as their base and then port to the 360? This way they could use the full power of the PS3.

Just my two pence.
ledickolas on 27 Feb '08


Never mind exclusive games, some of the multi platform games are looking fantastic this year. Dark Sector being one of them. Oh, and GTA4. And Midnight Club 3. And maybe Battlefield 3. Possibly Saints row 2. Or Just Cause 2. Or new Tomb Raider. The list goes on.......

That I can agree with. We are seeing more & more brilliant games getting multi-format releases. I really do wonder if unified console is the way to go next-gen. I was dead against it but 95% of games are multi-format now anyway. We are almost at that point where it doesnt matter what console you own, we all have the same games anyway so maybe the 1-console idea isnt so strange after all.
mfnick on 27 Feb '08
Actually, uncharted did pretty poorly despite being a top game. Resistance and motorstorm were both crap but the early release and bundled consoles helped them sell a lot.

I would not say Resistance was a "crap" game rather just an average game. Personally I really enjoy Motorstorm and thought it was a great game especially for a early released game.
Toasted_PSP on 27 Feb '08


Never mind exclusive games, some of the multi platform games are looking fantastic this year. Dark Sector being one of them. Oh, and GTA4. And Midnight Club 3. And maybe Battlefield 3. Possibly Saints row 2. Or Just Cause 2. Or new Tomb Raider. The list goes on.......

That I can agree with. We are seeing more & more brilliant games getting multi-format releases. I really do wonder if unified console is the way to go next-gen. I was dead against it but 95% of games are multi-format now anyway. We are almost at that point where it doesnt matter what console you own, we all have the same games anyway so maybe the 1-console idea isnt so strange after all.

I agree, it's not as preposterous an idea as what it once was. The only worry I have is that there would be a large influx of different consoles with varying abilities. I'm not too keen on the games console market becoming inundated with Matsui or LG units, the 360 is unreliable enough for me.
ledickolas on 27 Feb '08


Never mind exclusive games, some of the multi platform games are looking fantastic this year. Dark Sector being one of them. Oh, and GTA4. And Midnight Club 3. And maybe Battlefield 3. Possibly Saints row 2. Or Just Cause 2. Or new Tomb Raider. The list goes on.......

That I can agree with. We are seeing more & more brilliant games getting multi-format releases. I really do wonder if unified console is the way to go next-gen. I was dead against it but 95% of games are multi-format now anyway. We are almost at that point where it doesnt matter what console you own, we all have the same games anyway so maybe the 1-console idea isnt so strange after all.

I'd wholeheartedly support this idea. I'm tired of buying a console that folds well before it's natural end, or seeing an exclusive or two I'd love to play on a format I don't home. It's unreasonable to expect us to buy a grands worth of consoles to be able to play everything, especially when you could get a s**t HOT PC for that price and likely see all those games on that instead.
_Marty_ on 27 Feb '08


Never mind exclusive games, some of the multi platform games are looking fantastic this year. Dark Sector being one of them. Oh, and GTA4. And Midnight Club 3. And maybe Battlefield 3. Possibly Saints row 2. Or Just Cause 2. Or new Tomb Raider. The list goes on.......

That I can agree with. We are seeing more & more brilliant games getting multi-format releases. I really do wonder if unified console is the way to go next-gen. I was dead against it but 95% of games are multi-format now anyway. We are almost at that point where it doesnt matter what console you own, we all have the same games anyway so maybe the 1-console idea isnt so strange after all.

I'd wholeheartedly support this idea. I'm tired of buying a console that folds well before it's natural end, or seeing an exclusive or two I'd love to play on a format I don't home. It's unreasonable to expect us to buy a grands worth of consoles to be able to play everything, especially when you could get a s**t HOT PC for that price and likely see all those games on that instead.

Agreed, there's a couple of games I wouldn't mind trying on PS3 but as the console does very similar things to my 360 (in some cases better, some worse) I'm not going to spend out 300 odd pounds for another very similar console just to play the odd exclusive. One format could be very advantageous; developers wouldn't have to spread their resources to cover the varying technical prowess of different consoles.
ledickolas on 27 Feb '08


Never mind exclusive games, some of the multi platform games are looking fantastic this year. Dark Sector being one of them. Oh, and GTA4. And Midnight Club 3. And maybe Battlefield 3. Possibly Saints row 2. Or Just Cause 2. Or new Tomb Raider. The list goes on.......

That I can agree with. We are seeing more & more brilliant games getting multi-format releases. I really do wonder if unified console is the way to go next-gen. I was dead against it but 95% of games are multi-format now anyway. We are almost at that point where it doesnt matter what console you own, we all have the same games anyway so maybe the 1-console idea isnt so strange after all.

I'd wholeheartedly support this idea. I'm tired of buying a console that folds well before it's natural end, or seeing an exclusive or two I'd love to play on a format I don't home. It's unreasonable to expect us to buy a grands worth of consoles to be able to play everything, especially when you could get a s**t HOT PC for that price and likely see all those games on that instead.

Agreed, there's a couple of games I wouldn't mind trying on PS3 but as the console does very similar things to my 360 (in some cases better, some worse) I'm not going to spend out 300 odd pounds for another very similar console just to play the odd exclusive. One format could be very advantageous; developers wouldn't have to spread their resources to cover the varying technical prowess of different consoles.

The fact is, you don't need to buy all consoles anymore. If your more averse to Gears of War, Halo and Bioshock, then buy a 360. If on the other hand you'd rather play Resistance, Motorstorm or Uncharted, then buy a Ps3. There really is'nt much in it exclusive wise this year. However, all the third party games will play just as good on either console. Everybody wins this year.
Mark240473 on 27 Feb '08

If the 360 is so easy to develop for then why don't developers use the PS3 as their base and then port to the 360? This way they could use the full power of the PS3.

Just my two pence.

Two possible reasons for that:

1. Starting the project on the hardest platform increases the risk of the project getting canned early due to difficulty in meeting targets

2. If you have the choice between getting your game out (and therefore generating your some income) in 18 month (360 developed first) or in 24 months (PS3 developed first), then which one would you choose? Especially considering that the 360 has the largest install base. Granted, publishers may force a simultaneous release anyway...


If the PS3 passes the 360 in terms of the install base, then it's fairly likely that development teams will start targeting the PS3 as the lead platform, however you'd also have to factor in the attach rate (relating to general games sales per platform) as well
pherik on 27 Feb '08
Damn.
Thats a bit of a thorn in Sony's side these days.
People moaning about working with the PS3.
I STILL dont have one (a few more good exclusives, and Im sold), but I really am sick of hearing these excuses.

And, it would seem (although they dont moan much about it) Capcom are the laziest when it comes to making games for the PS3. Get that sorted guys. Your recent 'install' solutions are inexcusable.

On another subject. Today I was overcome with the urge to try 'Lost: the game' when it came into my store, and it ALSO seems to have 7 minute install time. What the hell ??????
jacksaddiction on 27 Feb '08
No one is disputing that the PS3, on paper, is a much more powerful machine and, conversion-wise, things are slowly starting to improve.

It's just that with games such as Uncharted, we've seen how potentially awesome future software could look, which begs the question - 'How long do we have to put up with Capcom's lame offerings?'

I for one am prepared to boycott even Resident Evil 5 if things don't improve.
carterlink on 27 Feb '08
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