Gran Turismo fans still have around 12 months to wait for a full sequel to appear on PS3, according to SCEA.
"Also, to further clarify, GT5 is still about a year away. You should just decide now to buy it, enjoy it, go online and race against anyone and everyone, rank number one worldwide, get the girl (or guy) and become the most popular kid in town. The end.", Chris Hinojosa-Miranda, associate producer, SCEA, has said.
The last we heard on a release date for GT5 came from the mouth of the game's director Kaunori Yamauchi who said it could be pushed back as far as late 2008. Seems he needed to add a few months on top.
Sony really have burst the bubble with this game. I was still amazed the Prologue version didnt have a decent online race mode (we've been told it's going to be part of a DLC update in the near future).
Im getting Prologue, but i think i'll be bored with the game within 12 months. Think of all the attention grabbing titles still to come this year...
i knew it from beginning, the same story was with gt4, they giving us prologue buying time for themselves, my only concern is that i've finished last prologue in one day and stil had to wait another months for a full game, but it was worth it
And still people call it a demo. Its a 'Prologue'. And it's not Ł25, most places have it for Ł17.99, some places have it for Ł19.99 and we don't even know what it will cost on PSN. over 60 cars, 5 tracks, online, split screen offline and some of the best graphics I have seen.
I'm more than happy to pay Ł17.99 for that, but hey, that's just me!
Guys, millions don't care about what you think of it.
If they cared what I thought then 3/4 of the music industry would be out of business with the crap they release and 90% of the shows shown on regular TV would be cancelled for failing to entertain
Didn't we already know that it'd be at least 2009 for GT5?
GT may not be my personal cup of tea, but there are a few racers coming in 2008 that are definitely worth keeping an eye on to tide anyone over until next year - Race Driver: GRID looks fantastic so far and that's here in Summer, Midnight Club: Los Angeles is also on its way.
Either way, I think that Prologue looks to be fairly good value for money and the whole 'glorified demo' tag is pretty unjustified - there's plenty of cars and tracks for your Ł18, plus extras - more than a lot of full priced racers we've seen in the past.
I've already noticed the 'pulling power' of a GT game - a few friends have mentioned seeing the advert for the Prologue pack and saying how great it looks....fair enough, it's not the full game - but, it sure is pretty
I'm glad its not out for another year, I can wait. It means they can add damage, real time weather, lots of new features including Top Gear stuff! Basically it should mean that GT5 is as superior to GT5p as GT4 was to its Prolouge game. GT4 was far more impressive than Prolouge, felt like a different game
If it's anything like Dub edition then that is my racing purchase for this year.
I was reading a preview on it the other day - it's looking pretty good so far. It seems that they are putting most of the work into the visuals (which look very sharp), so I suspect that it will play much like the Dub edition (I never played that myself).
The one I'm keeping an eye on most is GRID - the stuff that we've seen so far have been nothing short of superb. I'm not really a fan of racing games, but Forza 2 is a great game and I may very well be tempted to part with some cash if GRID is as good as it appears to be.
PS - an arcade perfect Sega Rally would be great on XBLA, but I'd much rather have Daytona....even the Dreamcast version would be more than welcome!
Believe me people, I've had more enjoyment out of this 'demo' than any driving game on any next gen system so far; Forza2 and PGR3&4 included. The fact that people have to repeat themselves all the time with silly 'it's a demo', or 'it's boring' comments everytime a GT5 story comes on here speaks volumes. Volumes of s**te. What speaks real volumes is the fact that PLAY.COM have sold out of this game already and that pre-orders for the game have exceeded 1 million. Can't remember Forza 2 or PGR4 selling out or getting so many pre-orders. And all this from merely a demo. Yeah, Forza is so much better. My bottom. It is the most boring racing game I have ever had the misfortune to play. Boring career setup, boring tracks, boring graphics, boring and tedious livery mechanics and just, well, boring. Oh, but it does have damage. Horay.
If Forza 3 does come out at the same time as GT5 it will get destroyed. We all know that by then the damage will be incorporated, as will dynamic weather with over 800 cars and tons of tracks. Tell me, how will Forza 3 compare?
How people can utter Forza in the same sentence as GT disturbs me deeply.
I can't believe PS3 owners are happy to pay Ł25 for what is essentially an elaborate demo.
By the time 2009 rolls round Forza 3 will be due a release and I'm sure Microsoft are working away to make it even better in every area.
2009 will be the GT5 vs Forza 3 war, and I can't wait to see the outcome.
your an idiot with your BOLD comments, GT5P is probably bigger and better than Forza 2 and its only a demo..imagine the full game? p.s its Ł17 from play
How people can utter Forza in the same sentence as GT disturbs me deeply.
Really?
Oooh, this could be fun..
'Forza and GT5!'
Just kidding - but, I think the comparison is fairly apt really. They're both top racers on this generation of consoles.
I personally just see them as totally different games, both have their strong points - GT is graphically stunning, but I don't find it as challenging as Forza. Also, you have to love the design elements in Forza 2 - some of the stuff that some people come up with is nothing short of brilliant.
Believe me people, I've had more enjoyment out of this 'demo' than any driving game on any next gen system so far; Forza2 and PGR3&4 included. The fact that people have to repeat themselves all the time with silly 'it's a demo', or 'it's boring' comments everytime a GT5 story comes on here speaks volumes. Volumes of s**te. What speaks real volumes is the fact that PLAY.COM have sold out of this game already and that pre-orders for the game have exceeded 1 million. Can't remember Forza 2 or PGR4 selling out or getting so many pre-orders. And all this from merely a demo. Yeah, Forza is so much better. My bottom. It is the most boring racing game I have ever had the misfortune to play. Boring career setup, boring tracks, boring graphics, boring and tedious livery mechanics and just, well, boring. Oh, but it does have damage. Horay.
If Forza 3 does come out at the same time as GT5 it will get destroyed. We all know that by then the damage will be incorporated, as will dynamic weather with over 800 cars and tons of tracks. Tell me, how will Forza 3 compare?
How people can utter Forza in the same sentence as GT disturbs me deeply.
each to their own old boy. it's not fair to whine on about people slagging off gt games and then go to slag off forza and pgr in the same breath.
i for one bought gt3 on my ps2 and was utterly bored to death by it, but i prefer slightly more arcaedy games like pgr.
but Ł17 for the prologue is not bad money i reckon as they are packing in quite a lot. whether or not you'll have had your fill of it in the next 12 months and then can't be bottomd to buy the full game will be interesting to see.
All the games for the PS3 are ALWAYS a year away even after two years have passed. No online in the demo? The demo you paid money for? A DLC patch might change this? What do you have to pay for the patch?
How people can utter Forza in the same sentence as GT disturbs me deeply.
Really?
Oooh, this could be fun..
'Forza and GT5!'
Just kidding - but, I think the comparison is fairly apt really. They're both top racers on this generation of consoles.
I personally just see them as totally different games, both have their strong points - GT is graphically stunning, but I don't find it as challenging as Forza. Also, you have to love the design elements in Forza 2 - some of the stuff that some people come up with is nothing short of brilliant.
Forza2 challenging? Your 'avin a laugh! It was major easy, even on hard mode!
If you pick up GT5, just wait until you try collecting some of the gold medals. Tough as nails, especially the time trials. Also, the fact that you race against 15 other cars instead of 7 makes a massive difference.
I agree that I have been impressed by some of the car designs in Forza 2 but let's face it, they must take eons. I tried to design my own, bearing in mind that I am an able artist, and after an hour I was bored. Far too tedious. Some people have the patience of saints! Mind you, you need patience if you want to find any enjoyment in Forza!
but Ł17 for the prologue is not bad money i reckon as they are packing in quite a lot. whether or not you'll have had your fill of it in the next 12 months and then can't be bottomd to buy the full game will be interesting to see.
Good point, hadn't thought of that - I guess there is certainly that risk....I'm sure there'll be tons more in the full game to keep people excited though.
Forza2 challenging? Your 'avin a laugh! It was major easy, even on hard mode!
I said it was more challenging - not difficult. I'm not really a fan of arcadey style racers these days, it's the same reason why I wouldn't touch a PGR game with a bargepole - I've gained no enjoyment from any of the series....having said that, for some reason I feel inclined to dust off my Dreamcast for some Daytona tonight
Anyways, I'd much prefer the Moto GP games to get back on track (no pun intended) - the last one was awful
Stop lying to yourself... This IS a demo... When Sega Saturn Magazine gave away the first disc for Panzer Dragoon Saga did they call it a prologue or a Demo? Is Christmas Nights worthy of paying seperately for?
Its a BIG demo ill grant you but youre still playing what amounts to a tiny part of the game.
Still GT is poor anyway but to see people rip Forza which is an identikit racer with far superior customisation and online modes as well as a damage model is weird.
How can you complain that Forza is slow and boring yet praise Gran Turismo...
If it's anything like Dub edition then that is my racing purchase for this year.
I was reading a preview on it the other day - it's looking pretty good so far. It seems that they are putting most of the work into the visuals (which look very sharp), so I suspect that it will play much like the Dub edition (I never played that myself).
The one I'm keeping an eye on most is GRID - the stuff that we've seen so far have been nothing short of superb. I'm not really a fan of racing games, but Forza 2 is a great game and I may very well be tempted to part with some cash if GRID is as good as it appears to be.
PS - an arcade perfect Sega Rally would be great on XBLA, but I'd much rather have Daytona....even the Dreamcast version would be more than welcome!
I agree that both Midnight Club LA and Race Driver GRID are far more exciting prospects. I was lucky enough to play GRID at Play.com LIVE and I was blown away by the visuals, damage and handling. I will definitely buy GRID, and look forward to Midnight Club LA. Daytona would make a great XBLA game, 8 players online... awesome!
PD are perfectionists and that's why I love them. you lot can play your developed-in-two-months-shovelware, but I prefer to wait for something that someone has spent years on, perfecting. Their attention to detail and sheer size are what sets the GT games appart from everything else. Plus GT5 Prologue looks amazing (On my 42"1080p TV anyway), I have never seen graphics that look so realistic in my life
Being one of the few gamers who does not have ADD, I can wait for it.
Stop lying to yourself... This IS a demo... When Sega Saturn Magazine gave away the first disc for Panzer Dragoon Saga did they call it a prologue or a Demo? Is Christmas Nights worthy of paying seperately for?
Its a BIG demo ill grant you but youre still playing what amounts to a tiny part of the game.
Mmmm, those millions seem to care not a jot.
Still GT is poor anyway but to see people rip Forza which is an identikit racer with far superior customisation and online modes as well as a damage model is weird.
Forza is a chav magnet. The real driving simulator is the GT series. How many times has Forza been on Topgear, the most influential car program on telly? Never.
How can you complain that Forza is slow and boring yet praise Gran Turismo...
I was blasting round Suzuka last night in an Audi R8. Did'nt seem very slow to me. Mind you, I was too busy enjoying myself.
I can't believe PS3 owners are happy to pay Ł25 for what is essentially an elaborate demo.
By the time 2009 rolls round Forza 3 will be due a release and I'm sure Microsoft are working away to make it even better in every area.
2009 will be the GT5 vs Forza 3 war, and I can't wait to see the outcome.
your an idiot with your BOLD comments, GT5P is probably bigger and better than Forza 2 and its only a demo..imagine the full game? p.s its Ł17 from play
Well thats all people will be able to do for the next 12 months... there's a reason some people refer to the PS3 as DelayStation... this just proves it.
PD are perfectionists and that's why I love them. you lot can play your developed-in-two-months-shovelware, but I prefer to wait for something that someone has spent years on, perfecting. Their attention to detail and sheer size are what sets the GT games appart from everything else. Plus GT5 Prologue looks amazing (On my 42"1080p TV anyway), I have never seen graphics that look so realistic in my life
Being one of the few gamers who does not have ADD, I can wait for it.
And Race Driver: GRID? you mean, NFS: Prostreet 2
I'd have to agree that it's always better to wait for a truly polished end product, but comparing GRID to NFS: ProStreet???? - come on!
I can't believe PS3 owners are happy to pay Ł25 for what is essentially an elaborate demo.
By the time 2009 rolls round Forza 3 will be due a release and I'm sure Microsoft are working away to make it even better in every area.
2009 will be the GT5 vs Forza 3 war, and I can't wait to see the outcome.
your an idiot with your BOLD comments, GT5P is probably bigger and better than Forza 2 and its only a demo..imagine the full game? p.s its Ł17 from play
Well thats all people will be able to do for the next 12 months... there's a reason some people refer to the PS3 as DelayStation... this just proves it.
It seems that recently more people would prefer a delaystation to a breakbox.
What speaks real volumes is the fact that PLAY.COM have sold out of this game already and that pre-orders for the game have exceeded 1 million. Can't remember Forza 2 or PGR4 selling out or getting so many pre-orders. And all this from merely a demo. Yeah, Forza is so much better. My bottom. It is the most boring racing game I have ever had the misfortune to play. Boring career setup, boring tracks, boring graphics, boring and tedious livery mechanics and just, well, boring. Oh, but it does have damage. Horay.
Well, yes - as we all know, sales are the real indication of a game's quality. I mean, The Sims is just the best game EVER....
What speaks real volumes is the fact that PLAY.COM have sold out of this game already and that pre-orders for the game have exceeded 1 million. Can't remember Forza 2 or PGR4 selling out or getting so many pre-orders. And all this from merely a demo. Yeah, Forza is so much better. My bottom. It is the most boring racing game I have ever had the misfortune to play. Boring career setup, boring tracks, boring graphics, boring and tedious livery mechanics and just, well, boring. Oh, but it does have damage. Horay.
Well, yes - as we all know, sales are the real indication of a game's quality. I mean, The Sims is just the best game EVER....
And still people call it a demo. Its a 'Prologue'. And it's not Ł25, most places have it for Ł17.99, some places have it for Ł19.99 and we don't even know what it will cost on PSN. over 60 cars, 5 tracks, online, split screen offline and some of the best graphics I have seen.
I'm more than happy to pay Ł17.99 for that, but hey, that's just me!
err!! seeing that kimi raikonnens F12007 costs 2million credits i think we will be playing gt5 prologue for a very long time, some people underestimate gt5 prologue and its becoming very annoying now, this game i think has the best looking graphics in a racing, and it cant be compared to the japanese gt5 prologue coz how long ago was that version released? the european an north american version have had alot of tweaking done to them, so were getting the better end of the deal. 70 cars, 6 tracks also in reverse, cant remember that much in the jap version, it also didnt have the f12007, awesome game!
1. An introduction or preface, especially a poem recited to introduce a play. 2. An introduction or introductory chapter, as to a novel. 3. An introductory act, event, or period.
demo
1. a. A demonstration, as of a product or service. b. A brief tape or recording illustrating the abilities of a musician or other performer. 2. A product, such as an automobile, used for demonstration and often sold later at a discount.
Just stop posting xbox owners please you're embarrassing yourselves.
I used to be just like you and buy my games based on the opinions of television presenters.
Sure, it was fine for a time and I picked up gems like Basketball Nightmare all because Bob Monkhouse and Russ Abbott said it was an enjoyable 2-player game - but, then I believed Pat Sharpe (of Funhouse fame) when he said that Altered Beast on the Master System was every bit as good as the arcade version......
Curse you, Pat Sharpe! - I'll never believe a word you say again!
1. An introduction or preface, especially a poem recited to introduce a play. 2. An introduction or introductory chapter, as to a novel. 3. An introductory act, event, or period.
demo
1. a. A demonstration, as of a product or service. b. A brief tape or recording illustrating the abilities of a musician or other performer. 2. A product, such as an automobile, used for demonstration and often sold later at a discount.
and your point is....?
Don't fret. They are just ignorant fools. The fact that every GT5 thread pushes past the 50+ comments, mostly by those who are not interested in PS3 or GT says it all really.
Just stop posting xbox owners please you're embarrassing yourselves.
I used to be just like you and buy my games based on the opinions of television presenters.
Sure, it was fine for a time and I picked up gems like Basketball Nightmare all because Bob Monkhouse and Russ Abbott said it was an enjoyable 2-player game - but, then I believed Pat Sharpe (of Funhouse fame) when he said that Altered Beast on the Master System was every bit as good as the arcade version......
Curse you, Pat Sharpe! - I'll never believe a word you say again!
How people can utter Forza in the same sentence as GT disturbs me deeply.
Really?
Oooh, this could be fun..
'Forza and GT5!'
Just kidding - but, I think the comparison is fairly apt really. They're both top racers on this generation of consoles.
I personally just see them as totally different games, both have their strong points - GT is graphically stunning, but I don't find it as challenging as Forza. Also, you have to love the design elements in Forza 2 - some of the stuff that some people come up with is nothing short of brilliant.
Forza2 challenging? Your 'avin a laugh! It was major easy, even on hard mode!
If you pick up GT5, just wait until you try collecting some of the gold medals. Tough as nails, especially the time trials. Also, the fact that you race against 15 other cars instead of 7 makes a massive difference.
I agree that I have been impressed by some of the car designs in Forza 2 but let's face it, they must take eons. I tried to design my own, bearing in mind that I am an able artist, and after an hour I was bored. Far too tedious. Some people have the patience of saints! Mind you, you need patience if you want to find any enjoyment in Forza!
yea but the 7 cars in forza race you that makes a massive difference
1. An introduction or preface, especially a poem recited to introduce a play. 2. An introduction or introductory chapter, as to a novel. 3. An introductory act, event, or period.
demo
1. a. A demonstration, as of a product or service. b. A brief tape or recording illustrating the abilities of a musician or other performer. 2. A product, such as an automobile, used for demonstration and often sold later at a discount.
and your point is....?
My point being, if GT5 Prologue is a selection of tracks and cars from GT5 then it's a demo, but if it includes tracks and cars from GT1-4 then it's a Prologue. So which is it
1. An introduction or preface, especially a poem recited to introduce a play. 2. An introduction or introductory chapter, as to a novel. 3. An introductory act, event, or period.
demo
1. a. A demonstration, as of a product or service. b. A brief tape or recording illustrating the abilities of a musician or other performer. 2. A product, such as an automobile, used for demonstration and often sold later at a discount.
and your point is....?
Don't fret. They are just ignorant fools. The fact that every GT5 thread pushes past the 50+ comments, mostly by those who are not interested in PS3 or GT says it all really.
They're only calling it a "prologue" so that idiots like you two don't notice your paying Ł20+ for a demo.
Meh, this verion of GT is just another old game with flashier graphics. In fact it just goes to show how people will prefer graphics to gameplay... um... unless you like the plodding tedious gameplay of GT.
I reckon racing games have pretty much reached their peak, almost every style of racing has been done already. Heck, I have Forza 2 (it was only Ł10, but like GT is a bit dull), Flatout 2, Burnout Revenge and i'm not really a racing fan! Seems the only thing left to build on is the graphics... (and some damage models would be a good start- might want to change the title to "the realistic LOOKING driving simulator".
I seem to be one of the few that thinks Ł17 isn't too bad- but you're gonna have to do better than that if you want me to part with my cash Sony.
Although I am not a fan of GT (Motorstorm for me!) I can see why fans and Sony/Polyphony are excited about this.
Fans: 60 cars, 5 tracks, online play, split screen offline ,some really rarther nice graphics and that kind of car handling I hate but car people love.
Fans and car people alike love this game and dont want to wait until 2009 to play what Polyphony have already got ready. So a version with the above features is well worth around the 20 quid mark to them.
Sony/Polyphony: Games like this are not cheap to make and the Prologue helps fund the cost of development, without this extra money maybe the final game would not be as large as it would of been without the extra cash.
Hell, if you can charge people twice, go for it! From a business point of view this makes perfect, and remember Sony, just like Nintendo and Micro$oft is a business - they are not your friends, they want your money in exchange for goods. You may really like thier goods but they still want your money!
I can't believe PS3 owners are happy to pay Ł25 for what is essentially an elaborate demo.
By the time 2009 rolls round Forza 3 will be due a release and I'm sure Microsoft are working away to make it even better in every area.
2009 will be the GT5 vs Forza 3 war, and I can't wait to see the outcome.
your an idiot with your BOLD comments, GT5P is probably bigger and better than Forza 2 and its only a demo..imagine the full game? p.s its Ł17 from play
Well thats all people will be able to do for the next 12 months... there's a reason some people refer to the PS3 as DelayStation... this just proves it.
It seems that recently more people would prefer a delaystation to a breakbox.
We'll see how reliable the PS3 is when they finally release a game people would want to play long enough to see if it breaks... keep waiting though, only a year till the full version of GRan Turdismo arrives... delays pending of course.
I can't believe PS3 owners are happy to pay Ł25 for what is essentially an elaborate demo.
By the time 2009 rolls round Forza 3 will be due a release and I'm sure Microsoft are working away to make it even better in every area.
2009 will be the GT5 vs Forza 3 war, and I can't wait to see the outcome.
your an idiot with your BOLD comments, GT5P is probably bigger and better than Forza 2 and its only a demo..imagine the full game? p.s its Ł17 from play
Well thats all people will be able to do for the next 12 months... there's a reason some people refer to the PS3 as DelayStation... this just proves it.
um, GT5 never had a release date, so how is it delayed? also, to people complaining about car damage.
never was into simulators (i've enjoyed Motorstorm much more than GT or Forza), but GT5P can sell me on graphics alone, meaning that i'd actually give simulators a try to see what all the fuss is about. i mean, millions of people and hundreds of reviewers don't rave about Gran Turismo for nothing.
Well i think GT5 Prologue is pretty fine value for money (even though i don't like the series).
Everyone calling it a demo, you realise that if it wasn't called "prologue" you wouldn't have criticised it. It's got just as many cars as burnout, yet none of you called that a Ł40 demo. It has Online Multiplayer, which still a few games to have (yet you dont call them Ł40 demos) and its got splitscreen multiplayer (sometihng motorstorm did not have - yet you didn't callt hat a Ł40 demo). Also this one is roughly Ł20 not Ł40. Also the fact that it's not multiplatform makes you criticise it.
And someone's comment earlier made me laugh "GT is boring, Forza FTW" They're both as boring as each other, or just as exciting as each other you could say. There almost the same in terms of speed, i think Forza is supposed to have the more realistic handling though.
Anyway, i think this is a great value deal, and if i was a GT fan i would be snapping it up immediatly. I may buy this when GT5 comes out (or the day before) when it's very cheap.
Forza is better then GT, PGR4 is better then Forza, PGR3 is better then PGR4. However, GT is the best looking, plus PS3 doesnt have much to play at the moment. The moral of the story is I'll be getting GT5 P for my poor old PS3 as a treat.
I reckon racing games have pretty much reached their peak, almost every style of racing has been done already. Heck, I have Forza 2 (it was only Ł10, but like GT is a bit dull), Flatout 2, Burnout Revenge and i'm not really a racing fan! Seems the only thing left to build on is the graphics... (and some damage models would be a good start- might want to change the title to "the realistic LOOKING driving simulator".
I suppose you'd like another FPS then you Xbot, seeing as car simulation has been done to death way more than the FPS?!
Easy fella.....he was commenting on racing-games in general - not those exclusive to PS3
I reckon racing games have pretty much reached their peak, almost every style of racing has been done already. Heck, I have Forza 2 (it was only Ł10, but like GT is a bit dull), Flatout 2, Burnout Revenge and i'm not really a racing fan! Seems the only thing left to build on is the graphics... (and some damage models would be a good start- might want to change the title to "the realistic LOOKING driving simulator".
I suppose you'd like another FPS then you Xbot, seeing as car simulation has been done to death way more than the FPS?!
Yeah! PS3 fanboys don't want to play FPS games, they just want to go "home" and play with their little(bigplanet)rag dollies
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