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BREAKING NEWS: No /dancing in Warhammer Online

Arrhythmia outbreak infects fantasy MMO.
"There is no dancing in Warhammer Online". That's the chorus line reply to questions asked to Mythic developers at the Warhammer press event in Paris about the lack of boogie-emotes in their MMO.

Having just played the game, and tried, as usual, to pass the time between skirmishes by /dancing with my friends, my avatar refused. 'Hank refuses to dance', said my Elven Warrior, shrugging his shoulders. I'm absolutely gobsmacked. But the controversy doesn't end there.

I asked around. Who made the decision not to include dancing? According to Erik Morgensen, who looks after the Warhammer Online project for Games Workshop, whether the Warhammer lore supported dancing. "Yes," he said. "It was Mythic's call."

So I asked Mythic's Associate Producer Josh Drescher, why? He referred me back to Eric, putting the ball (or at least, disco) back in Games Workshop's court.

"No dancing?"
"No."
"Even the Amish dance. Even policemen have balls."
"Yes. You can juggle cats..."
"But there's no dancing in Warhammer?"
"No."

I'm amazed. There are six races in the game. Dwarf, Human, Chaos, Orc, High Elf and Dark Elf. All of them have legs. None of them have rhythm. Chaos should have the best moves. Orcs should rock hard. Elves should be lithe and sexy. But no. No dancing in Warhammer.

Do you think that's a good decision? Will the lack of dancing make or break your decision to play? Rant on, friends.

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Well, you can't do it in the board game.

Mind you, it might break the immersion a little bit if all the characters slid around on a massive black plastic disc.
Serenity on 26 Mar '08
OMFG YOU N00b!!!!! Warhammer uses square bases not round disks! You know nothing! You suck at life!


*WOAH* sorry i got into the MMO mood...

Seriously though since Warhammer is a fairly dark and gritty place stupid dances being omitted is probably a good thing...
Lightbulb on 26 Mar '08
Very Happy

Well excuse me!

The last time I played Warhammer was about 12 years ago and my Ultramarines had round bases thank you very much!

Don't know what the hell I did with all that stuff tbh. I had a Razorback tank and Dreadnought and everything.

Mind you, that was all 40k stuff.
Serenity on 27 Mar '08
He just broke the non-disclosure agreement. If I report him quick, I get automatically get his place in the beta.

Woot.
Gorgeras on 27 Mar '08
Very Happy

Well excuse me!

The last time I played Warhammer was about 12 years ago and my Ultramarines had round bases thank you very much!
... Mind you, that was all 40k stuff.

Yeah, I think he's saying that only Warhammer 40K has round bases, whereas the non-40K game has square ones.

Since this is the geekiest fact ever, I'm pleased to report I honestly don't know if that's the case. I too haven't played in many years.

It would make sense, though, since Warhammer units were often rectangular blocks of identical troops, whereas 40K squads are smaller loose formations.
Pentadact on 27 Mar '08
I think they're holding out for DanceDanceHammerRevolution 40k: Soulstorm: Stupid Rubbish Universe.
Gap Generator on 27 Mar '08
Since this is the geekiest fact ever, I'm pleased to report I honestly don't know if that's the case. I too haven't played in many years.

Smile Exactly right Pentadact. Because you need to make ranks and files in Warhammer (as opposed to 40k) they are mounted on various sizes of square base.

Please don't take offence Serenity (i don't think you have but just in case) it was a joke.

As for it being the geekiest fact i don't agree with that. I know far more geeky things than that! I guess it come from half a life time playing Warhammer. Don't play any more because of various reason...
Lightbulb on 27 Mar '08
There is no dancing...ONLY WAR!!!
Solidarity Reg on 27 Mar '08
/dance is for gay Night Elves

/WAAAAAGHH is for warhammer online

(imo!)
jamehhh on 27 Mar '08
There is no dancing...ONLY WAR!!!

Your avatar cutely begs to differ.
Gap Generator on 27 Mar '08
I can out-geek you all.

Some units in (fantasy) Warhammer could be mounted on circular bases - skirmishers, who didn't line up in rank and file, and solo characters or monsters not associated with units.
Ross Atherton on 27 Mar '08
This is not Dancehammer, this is WARHAMMER!
jonny_hermit on 27 Mar '08
I was really excited about this game up to the point where they decided to go for the 'chaos chicken' idea.

Now I know this game will be entirely a gear grind, with no actual economy comparable with EVE and such no genuine PvP experience but a purely restrictive artificial one. This means the trade skills they're spending so much time developing are going to be pointless. On the unofficial forums, most people are commited to making sure crafted items are never as powerful as those 'earned' ones from the gear grind.

It tells me that the level system whilst at first appearing different from others, is going to be the same old one where you don't actually get more powerful; the numbers are there to restrict your access specifically along the linear path of play chosen by the developer.

Remember that Blizzard was making claims about WoW's PvP in the early stage of it's development that are just like those Mythic are making for PvP/RvR in Warhammer. It doesn't bode well when they are making similiar choices to water the actual war down.

I don't really have high hopes for any MMO anymore. Developers don't appear to get it when it comes to PvP.
Gorgeras on 28 Mar '08
Glad that dancing isn't going to be in the game. I get sick of idiots dancing near naked in MMOs, if you are bored either go out and fight something or play a different game.

Now I know this game will be entirely a gear grind, with no actual economy comparable with EVE and such no genuine PvP experience but a purely restrictive artificial one. This means the trade skills they're spending so much time developing are going to be pointless. On the unofficial forums, most people are commited to making sure crafted items are never as powerful as those 'earned' ones from the gear grind.

How would an Eve style economy work in a Medieval era game? It would make no sense, long distance travel is rare and most realms are self supporting as a result. I'm dissapointed that crafting may be limited (hopefully not as badly as WoW), to me it should be Best Raid Stuff > Best Crafted Stuff > Best Quested Stuff (PvE wise). That way crafting is a viable alternative for everyone except the very hardcore raiders. Crafting is usually a mess when a game first gets released and only 6 months or so later can you get a real idea of crafting experience, but this is dragging this thread OT.
Katar on 28 Mar '08
Since this is the geekiest fact ever, I'm pleased to report I honestly don't know if that's the case. I too haven't played in many years.

Smile Exactly right Pentadact. Because you need to make ranks and files in Warhammer (as opposed to 40k) they are mounted on various sizes of square base.

Please don't take offence Serenity (i don't think you have but just in case) it was a joke.

As for it being the geekiest fact i don't agree with that. I know far more geeky things than that! I guess it come from half a life time playing Warhammer. Don't play any more because of various reason...


Naaa, you're sound. That's why there was a big smiley at the front.

Ahhhh, nostalgia.

I used to love going to my local games workshop and eyeing all the blister packs and the endless rows of hexagonal plastic paint jars. Blood Angel red, Skull White, Sunburst Yellow.

I think this is the first pack I ever bought.

I loved the dioramas too, when I saw the advert for Halo 3 it took me straight back.

@ Tom> Geek! Smile

@ Ross> Übergeek!
Serenity on 28 Mar '08
I guess the first box i bought was the 2nd edition of 40k. I was 13 and the year was 1995. Feels like a long time ago now. Smile I guess it IS a long time ago now. Smile
Lightbulb on 29 Mar '08
Yeah, that was about the same time I started! I was about 12 I think.

Jesus where's the time going?!
Serenity on 29 Mar '08
before the beta was delayed before christmas i won a competition with PC Gamer Mag were i was supposed to get a beta key.

i thaught 'ok so when it comes round i will get it then' but noohooo i get bugger all, this sucks Sad

ok so i got a new mouse and surround sound speakers for my computer, and i get a t-shirt and a usless strap thingy with warhammer written on it, but i didnt get my flippin beta did i? DID I!?!?

oh well i guess ill live its not like i was ever a fan of the board game, or the computer games of warhammer for that matter
beararsed on 2 Apr '08
Well I am a bit sad that there no dancing, but common to the warhammer lore, theres no time for it only War etc...

But hey, at least they have got some other emotes to toggle around with, juggling chickens sounds kinda fun ^_^
Honorius on 3 Apr '08
IF YOU WANT DANCING GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME!!!!!!!

If you don't like an aspect don't play the game!
It is as simple as that. The fact that there is no dancing appeals to me! Why must you turn every game into some version of carebears 2.0?

I have never once read an account of ancient warfare where soldiers fought a little. Then danced. It takes away from MMOs in my opinion. It is one reason why I could never stand WoW or Guild Wars. There is too much emphasis on cutesie s***. I want a game that is violent, bloody, dark, and dirty.

If you are so much of a shut in that you need a "/dance" command I suggest you try leaving your house some time a try meeting a woman. Twenty bucks says you write from home and email your craptastic articles into PCGamer. Amirite?
w1ntermute on 3 Apr '08
The dancing is pop-culture. I say leave the pop-culture references to WoW. The serious gritty war-torn fantasy is Warhammer and the dancing would seem out of place in that universe.
Solidarity Reg on 7 Apr '08
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