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Sony: MS "punched themselves out of the fight"

Sony marketing VP talks up PS3s chances of current-gen victory
PS3's competition has already fired off its big guns and "may have punched themselves out of the fight", says Scott Steinburg, marketing big man at Sony.

A lot has been said of 2008 belonging to PS3 - recent sales have supported the theory - and Steinburg is confident that while PS3 still has many of its best cards to play, the competition has already blown its "big assets".

"Our competition has already leveraged all their big assets in the first couple of years and may have punched themselves out of the fight," he told GamePro.

He talked up the Blu-ray victory and upcoming titles as PS3's key advantages going forward.

"I think [the Blu-ray win] is a huge momentum builder for us and I think it is part of why we believe 2008 is going to be a monster year for the PS3," he said.

"When you incorporate games like Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, Little Big Planet, and Resistance 2...there will a great mixture of new IP and proven PlayStation brands," added Steinburg.

On another note, he also teased about the likelihood of music and movie downloads on PS3 soon. "We have entertainment leverage and that means music and movies. No other company has that ability or those assets. The PS3 is the hub....you can probably connect the dots. Stay tuned!"

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Yawn.....
iainbyoung on 7 Apr '08
In other news: Cadbury calls Nestle a c**t.
MisterBedo on 7 Apr '08
Oh, here we go again....

Rolling Eyes
ParmaViolet on 7 Apr '08
Not now Bernard!
PeteTheFeet on 7 Apr '08
Still only have 1 ps3 game against 40 for my 360 yep keep the good work sony I may three games by the end of 2008 the GREAT YEAR.
condemmedman on 7 Apr '08
I'll feel alot better when the rest of the years big exclusives are out, things seem to be running a little slowly for my liking, although it is starting to come together.

You've gotta give hime some credit, least the PS3 will be a "reliable" hub! Laughing
dodgy1 on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing
ParmaViolet on 7 Apr '08
I have made my choice and I am enjoying my gaming, I couldn't care less who wins...since both companies are making enough money that they won't opt out of the console game for awhile.

This kind of opinion is something I would only take seriously if MS said it because then they would not have something to gain by doing so. This just smells of typical corporate propaganda and an excuse to keep talking about the blu-ray. The problem is that as soon as they mention anything beyond that (like titles) the argument opens up too many points for rebuttal
kr3mlin on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
In other news: Cadbury calls Nestle a c**t.

Brilliant
dweebosh on 7 Apr '08
Hee hee Xbots are here as usual.

I love both PS3 & Xbox360 but I believe 2008 is the year for PS3.
wildhook2 on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

To be fair, Sony will have three Xmas' behind them by the time GT5 hits etc. Not three years in the UK by a long way, but a decent stretch since the first US and Japanese units got shipped

Typed that a bit wrong
dweebosh on 7 Apr '08
And once more Sony talk about good things coming up, wish they'd hurry and get to the good things available now point.
Chris_Eals on 7 Apr '08
On another note, he also teased about the likelihood of music and movie downloads on PS3 soon. "We have entertainment leverage and that means music and movies. No other company has that ability or those assets.

If only Microsoft offered a music & film download service. Oh! wait - they do. Has Sony been sticking their collective heads in the sand?
steven_h1 on 7 Apr '08
In other news: Cadbury calls Nestle a c**t.

Brilliant

lmao, excellent

The only PS3 exclusive game worth playing at the moment on a PS3 is GT Prologue( and thats just half a game because if you then get GT5 youre paying for the same again ), anything else can be played on a 360 or PC or whatever.

Other than that, MGS4 - hmmm, maybe, the series is getting old though, MGS1 was brilliant and innovative and nothjing came close afterwards, in fact the series has become the new Dragons Lair

Little Big Planet - looks excellent and fun, has some serious potential

Sony and M$ rants are getting really old now, kids the lot of them, we'll be listening to this BluRay victory crap for the next 10 years
lmimmfn on 7 Apr '08
I have both a 360 & PS3 and like them both.

The PS3 as a hub, Iam not sure yet as it is a bitch to get my ipod to work with it. Where as I can hook it upto my 360 and play the music in any game I want
unforgetable on 7 Apr '08
This article is nothing more than fanboy bait.

If you're enjoying the console you own who cares; if you're not then sell it. It's not a difficult concept.

I have 2 out of 3 of the "next-gen" consoles and I'm looking at selling one of them; can you guess which one it is (one has 11 games and one has 2)?
jimmygoogle on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

No Mark, you do.

I only posted that to wind up idiots like yourself - looks like it worked

Laughing
ParmaViolet on 7 Apr '08
Still only have 1 ps3 game against 40 for my 360 yep keep the good work sony I may three games by the end of 2008 the GREAT YEAR.

Same here (I did have fall of man but sold it with my original PS3) the only PS3 game I've got now is Fifa08 and thats cos it was reduced!
Apart from a couple of downloaded games as well.
My PS3 is usually off and most of my gaming is done on the 360.
Until I see a good reason to buy a PS3 title over a 360 title it will stay that way.
I really think these execs should just leave the sales to do the talking and not spout more biased crap.
spooney100 on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

To be fair, Sony will have three Xmas' behind them by the time GT5 hits etc. Not three years by a long way, but a decent stretch since the first US and Japanese units got shipped

Typed that a bit wrong

Just trying to prove a point. Even 3 xmas's seems a little exaggerated to me. Unless your counting next xmas? Why? Confused

The PS3 has compared favourably with the 1st year (uk) of 360 releases. This 2nd year will also compare well with 360's 2nd year. People are quick to forget this....
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
I think its pretty obvious the PS3 will come out on top against 360.

The fact its sales have kept up with 360 even though it hasnt 'played any of its great cards yet' shows that the brand name matters more than the games in this gen.
mfnick on 7 Apr '08
Still only have 1 ps3 game against 40 for my 360 yep keep the good work sony I may three games by the end of 2008 the GREAT YEAR.

Same here (I did have fall of man but sold it with my original PS3) the only PS3 game I've got now is Fifa08 and thats cos it was reduced!
Apart from a couple of downloaded games as well.
My PS3 is usually off and most of my gaming is done on the 360.
Until I see a good reason to buy a PS3 title over a 360 title it will stay that way.
I really think these execs should just leave the sales to do the talking and not spout more biased crap.

I don't you'll find anyone who isn't biased towards one of the consoles whether an exec or just someone posting on a forum that's why this arguements are so stupid.

All people are doing is argueing that they like their console more than someone else likes there's - who cares. Grow up and get a life. If you like your consoles so much why don't play on them rather than spouting off at each other on a forum
jimmygoogle on 7 Apr '08
Christ who cares about this talk anymore, it's getting really old and boring now.

We all know what both consoles can do, but seeing as 2008 is supposed to be the year of the PS3 we're in April now and I honestly can't see it, you won't win a console war with 2-3 games FFS!

As for the movie download service, I just think the bandwidth required in the UK isnt good enough for that yet and it's likely to be mostly Sony pictures films anyway. People arn't ready to swap DVD/Blu-ray for movie downloads just yet, and neither am I.
bmaindj on 7 Apr '08
/facepalm

So let me get this right, Sony and Microsoft only want to feed us there 'Big Guns' and leave out new and probably more interesting I.P.s?

All three companies have there 'Guns' such as the Halo Franchise, MGS Franchise and Mario Franchise, but, there ARE better games out then these three so don't be so quick to point the finger Mr Sony, naughty boy.

I'M ONLY HERE FOR ZEE GAMEZ!!! >.<
BenJy! on 7 Apr '08

Just trying to prove a point. Even 3 xmas's seems a little exaggerated to me. Unless your counting next xmas? Why? Confused

The PS3 has compared favourably with the 1st year (uk) of 360 releases. This 2nd year will also compare well with 360's 2nd year. People are quick to forget this....

the ps3 was due in spring 2006 but due to problems it didnt make it. this means games would have been aimed for this date but held back for the release. this also means games have been in development for over 2 years already on the PS3 so i would expect the ps 3 to be doing better than it is on the games front by now.

i dont own a ps3 and the games due out on it dont tempt me one bit apart from the ones i can also get on other platforms that i do own. this is obviously all down to personal taste but i dont think the ps3 has a better line up than the 360 this year, i think both are a little bit disappointing.
pishers on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

No Mark, you do.

I only posted that to wind up idiots like yourself - looks like it worked

Laughing

Err, I'm not wound up!? ConfusedLaughing And how do you summise that I am an idiot? Shocked Your the one who claimed the 3 years, not me! Laughing

In fact I will go as far as to say that I am glad that the 360 has been so successful as it has kept Sony on their toes! Do you think that Sony would be working so hard if it wasn't for Microsofts previous efforts?

All I can say is: 'Thanks Microsoft. Without you, we PS3 fans wouldn't have half the amount of good stuff to look forward to.'

Does that sound like an idiot to you?
Confused
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

No Mark, you do.

I only posted that to wind up idiots like yourself - looks like it worked

Laughing

Err, I'm not wound up!? ConfusedLaughing And how do you summise that I am an idiot? Shocked Your the one who claimed the 3 years, not me! Laughing

In fact I will go as far as to say that I am glad that the 360 has been so successful as it has kept Sony on their toes! Do you think that Sony would be working so hard if it wasn't for Microsofts previous efforts?

All I can say is: 'Thanks Microsoft. Without you, we PS3 fans wouldn't have half the amount of good stuff to look forward to.'

Does that sound like an idiot to you?
Confused

Erm....yes, it does

Laughing
ParmaViolet on 7 Apr '08
Another week and another tedious bitching session... tune in next week for Microsoft's predicable response... Rolling Eyes
Darren1967 on 7 Apr '08
Just trying to prove a point. Even 3 xmas's seems a little exaggerated to me. Unless your counting next xmas? Why? Confused

The PS3 has compared favourably with the 1st year (uk) of 360 releases. This 2nd year will also compare well with 360's 2nd year. People are quick to forget this....

Just counting Xmas 08 because everyone seems to count GT5 as a Sony 'big gun', but it won't be out until 2009.

I agree with you that the first year for any console is a bit ropey (the only thing I ever bought at launch was the PS2, and that was for timesplitters).

You'd be silly to expect great things from new hardware within 12 months of launch, I think it's just the corporate hyperbole that gets people riled
dweebosh on 7 Apr '08
I think its pretty obvious the PS3 will come out on top against 360.

The fact its sales have kept up with 360 even though it hasnt 'played any of its great cards yet' shows that the brand name matters more than the games in this gen.

yer....sad isnt it.. Crying or Very sad
hollywood111 on 7 Apr '08

Just trying to prove a point. Even 3 xmas's seems a little exaggerated to me. Unless your counting next xmas? Why? Confused

The PS3 has compared favourably with the 1st year (uk) of 360 releases. This 2nd year will also compare well with 360's 2nd year. People are quick to forget this....

the ps3 was due in spring 2006 but due to problems it didnt make it. this means games would have been aimed for this date but held back for the release. this also means games have been in development for over 2 years already on the PS3 so i would expect the ps 3 to be doing better than it is on the games front by now.

i dont own a ps3 and the games due out on it dont tempt me one bit apart from the ones i can also get on other platforms that i do own. this is obviously all down to personal taste but i dont think the ps3 has a better line up than the 360 this year, i think both are a little bit disappointing.

I never once claimed that PS3 had a better line-up of games this year, so please don't put words into my mouth. I said that PS3 would compare favourably. And of course, that depends on taste. I dare say that 360 line-up does look attractive as well, with NG2, Fable 2, Banjo, Alan Wake and others. I know I have this fanboy stigma, something I hope to shake off, so please give me the benefit of the doubt.. Sad
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

No Mark, you do.

I only posted that to wind up idiots like yourself - looks like it worked

Laughing

Err, I'm not wound up!? ConfusedLaughing And how do you summise that I am an idiot? Shocked Your the one who claimed the 3 years, not me! Laughing

In fact I will go as far as to say that I am glad that the 360 has been so successful as it has kept Sony on their toes! Do you think that Sony would be working so hard if it wasn't for Microsofts previous efforts?

All I can say is: 'Thanks Microsoft. Without you, we PS3 fans wouldn't have half the amount of good stuff to look forward to.'

Does that sound like an idiot to you?
Confused

Erm....yes, it does

Laughing

Grow up, ya fool. Wink
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
In fact I will go as far as to say that I am glad that the 360 has been so successful as it has kept Sony on their toes!

A very good point, competition is always good to keep prices down and new games flowing (less evidence of that second one so far though)
dweebosh on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

No Mark, you do.

I only posted that to wind up idiots like yourself - looks like it worked

Laughing

Err, I'm not wound up!? ConfusedLaughing And how do you summise that I am an idiot? Shocked Your the one who claimed the 3 years, not me! Laughing

In fact I will go as far as to say that I am glad that the 360 has been so successful as it has kept Sony on their toes! Do you think that Sony would be working so hard if it wasn't for Microsofts previous efforts?

All I can say is: 'Thanks Microsoft. Without you, we PS3 fans wouldn't have half the amount of good stuff to look forward to.'

Does that sound like an idiot to you?
Confused

Erm....yes, it does

Laughing

Grow up, ya fool. Wink

Sorry man, I'm just really bored at work....felt the need to try and amuse myself - but, I can't even be bothered to do that now...

Mondays.....(sigh)

Laughing
ParmaViolet on 7 Apr '08
its strange that killzone 2 doesnt get much mention anymore, what happened?
chris_ace on 7 Apr '08
its strange that killzone 2 doesnt get much mention anymore, what happened?

I would believe the same thing happened it as Haze, too much press, hype and what not, then dead silence for ages and everyones lost interest. The first one was stupidly overhyped and did not deliver in any shape or form
lmimmfn on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

No Mark, you do.

I only posted that to wind up idiots like yourself - looks like it worked

Laughing

Err, I'm not wound up!? ConfusedLaughing And how do you summise that I am an idiot? Shocked Your the one who claimed the 3 years, not me! Laughing

In fact I will go as far as to say that I am glad that the 360 has been so successful as it has kept Sony on their toes! Do you think that Sony would be working so hard if it wasn't for Microsofts previous efforts?

All I can say is: 'Thanks Microsoft. Without you, we PS3 fans wouldn't have half the amount of good stuff to look forward to.'

Does that sound like an idiot to you?
Confused

Erm....yes, it does

Laughing

Grow up, ya fool. Wink

Sorry man, I'm just really bored at work....felt the need to try and amuse myself - but, I can't even be bothered to do that now...

Mondays.....(sigh)

Laughing

No worries. Look at the bright side; not long till GTA4 is released... Cool
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
One big difrerence between Haze and Killzone 2; killzone's predecessor was rubbish and Free Radical who make Haze actually have a good record with the Timesplitters games. I can understand the hype Haze got but Killzone 2??? why the hype???

Lego Indy that's a game that looks like it'll selling a bundle.
jimmygoogle on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

No Mark, you do.

I only posted that to wind up idiots like yourself - looks like it worked

Laughing

Err, I'm not wound up!? ConfusedLaughing And how do you summise that I am an idiot? Shocked Your the one who claimed the 3 years, not me! Laughing

In fact I will go as far as to say that I am glad that the 360 has been so successful as it has kept Sony on their toes! Do you think that Sony would be working so hard if it wasn't for Microsofts previous efforts?

All I can say is: 'Thanks Microsoft. Without you, we PS3 fans wouldn't have half the amount of good stuff to look forward to.'

Does that sound like an idiot to you?
Confused

Erm....yes, it does

Laughing

Grow up, ya fool. Wink

Sorry man, I'm just really bored at work....felt the need to try and amuse myself - but, I can't even be bothered to do that now...

Mondays.....(sigh)

Laughing

No worries. Look at the bright side; not long till GTA4 is released... Cool

Your feeble minded arguments pale beside the crushing might of the Wii's big cuddly white feet destroying all opposition.

Wii for the title!! (oh my mistake it already has that!).
philgreaaaaaaaat on 7 Apr '08
I might be a 360 owner but I think he's right about MS shooting themselves in the foot. Their focus on DLC is way too premature, and the world's telecom networks are simply not equipped to deal with that amount of traffic yet. Nor are current storage methods ready for it.

However, I'm sick of this whole c**k-waving thing they keep doing.
"Oh, ours has 6 billion games"
"Well ours has 4 million new IPs this year"
"Well ours makes cups of tea"
"Well our dad could beat up your dad"

Seriously, they are supposed to be global corporations, but they're acting like 5 year olds. Grow the f**k up.
Dajmin on 7 Apr '08
No worries. Look at the bright side; not long till GTA4 is released... Cool

I just hope Shopto.net get my copy to me early - I paid more (and sacrificed possible deals involving MS points) just for the slim chance of getting it a couple of days before the 29th....

Rolling Eyes
ParmaViolet on 7 Apr '08
I own a Wii as well! Downloaded IK+ last night and a small tear ran down my cheek as I connected with my first roundhouse. Cool C64 games rule.

Now for that Uridium download. Just a pity there aren't any leaderboards!

This was supposed to be in reply to Philgreeeeaat Shocked
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
Didn't anyone tell him that GT5 is out in 2009?

Way to go Sony, 3 big titles in 3 years....brilliant stuff

Laughing

Laughing Hang on a minute... I've had my PS3 just over a year. I do recall buying it upon release. Where do you get your 3 years from?

You appear to talk more s**te than any sony rep. Wink

No Mark, you do.

I only posted that to wind up idiots like yourself - looks like it worked

Laughing

Err, I'm not wound up!? ConfusedLaughing And how do you summise that I am an idiot? Shocked Your the one who claimed the 3 years, not me! Laughing

In fact I will go as far as to say that I am glad that the 360 has been so successful as it has kept Sony on their toes! Do you think that Sony would be working so hard if it wasn't for Microsofts previous efforts?

All I can say is: 'Thanks Microsoft. Without you, we PS3 fans wouldn't have half the amount of good stuff to look forward to.'

Does that sound like an idiot to you?
Confused

3 years - Xmas 06, Xmas 07, and Xmas 08 - all before GT5 is out. While the PS3 wasn't released over here during Xmas 06, it was in America.

Have people actually seen how poorly MGS sells outside of Japan? While it's a good franchise, it tends to be the hardcore's who stick with it. MGS3 for example only shifted 3.7m units in a year (on a console which had shifted 4x as many units as the 360)... Halo 3 shifted 2.45m in a day. In January, Halo 3 had sold 8.1m (source: http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6184291.html).

Why Sony seem to think their franchises are bigger is beyond me. The money in the console war is made from software royalties - the bigger the console attach rate, the better. Until Sony can catch up with that (or pull out an enormous lead with hardware), they can't really claim to be victorious!undefined
citizenerasedx on 7 Apr '08
I own a Wii as well! Downloaded IK+ last night and a small tear ran down my cheek as I connected with my first roundhouse. Cool C64 games rule.

Now for that Uridium download. Just a pity there aren't any leaderboards!

This was supposed to be in reply to Philgreeeeaat Shocked

I read ya baby, loud and clear!

All I want for christmas is Pikmin 3!
philgreaaaaaaaat on 7 Apr '08
sony should have a great year, from march all the way until xmas thay have a top game and most will be exclusive.

march gave us GT5, demo or not this the best racing game out, in april we all get GTA4. may and sony get haze which will get scores around 8.3 - 8.8 so a really good game.

june = MGS4/online, i've seen many preview's over the last few days, and from the graphics to story to weapons to new ideas, everyone who finished it has been absolutely blown away by this game.

add to the mix all the other games like 8 days, heavy rain, ( which will get a big E3 push) then you have momentum for 09, GT5, FF, GOW 3, getaway, all these secret games that get talked about.

xmas 09 will define who really is the king of the current gen.

f
Gaz Vonhammer on 7 Apr '08
I own a Wii as well! Downloaded IK+ last night and a small tear ran down my cheek as I connected with my first roundhouse. Cool C64 games rule.

Now for that Uridium download. Just a pity there aren't any leaderboards!

This was supposed to be in reply to Philgreeeeaat Shocked

I read ya baby, loud and clear!

All I want for christmas is Pikmin 3!

That and Pilotwings! Those games with score leaderboards would make xmas fly by. No pun intended. Embarassed
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
These articles are so dull.

I suspect we're coming to a point where it'll be 'Sony Marketing Director says that all 360 owners smell of wee' - I think I'm with Bill Hicks when he told all the marketing and advertising people to just kill themselves

Laughing
ParmaViolet on 7 Apr '08
These articles are so dull.

I suspect we're coming to a point where it'll be 'Sony Marketing Director says that all 360 owners smell of wee' - I think I'm with Bill Hicks when he told all the marketing and advertising people to just kill themselves

Laughing

Yes and also when he said that if men could suck their own c+cks the women would be in an empty f=cking room staring at an empty f+cking stage.

Quality RIP.
philgreaaaaaaaat on 7 Apr '08
It get immaute, i think the bragging time is when PS3 passes 360 sales. I kind of agree with what he has said, the 360 has released a lot too easrly but that meant there will be sequels, it still has a good line-up. I suppose sequels sell software more than hardware but it is still good games coming through.
Sony does have a good year ahead though, regardless of who is interested in MGS and Home, LittleBigPlanet, Haze etc. they do have a bit of hype around them. 2009 for Sony though seems better to be honest, from September 2008 onwards really :S

If Microsoft bombed the way Sony did, releasing it a year late, even more in Europe, it would have gone the same way as the Xbox, maybe worse. Whereas the PS3 is geting better, it shows the support people are showing for the name Sony. The Consoles are selling on name alone aren't they. It shows how strong the PS2 was Shocked If Sony hadn't been so naiive to think they werei nvincible it weould have shot away, but instead, idiots they are, they've really let Microsoft get a hold of the market.
almanac2015 on 7 Apr '08
These articles are so dull.

I suspect we're coming to a point where it'll be 'Sony Marketing Director says that all 360 owners smell of wee' - I think I'm with Bill Hicks when he told all the marketing and advertising people to just kill themselves

Laughing

No, it's Nintendo fans that smell of wii! Laughing Sorry, my bad. Embarassed
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
Mark, you have that annoying aura surrounding you because of the sheer volume of Emoticons LaughingCoolConfusedCrying or Very sadEmbarassedWinkRolling EyesExclamationIdea you use...Spare us the graphic novel and give us something to read...it helps the medicine go down.
Rosepetal on 7 Apr '08
Mark, you have that annoying aura surrounding you because of the sheer volume of Emoticons LaughingCoolConfusedCrying or Very sadEmbarassedWinkRolling EyesExclamationIdea you use...Spare us the graphic novel and give us something to read...it helps the medicine go down.

Sorry Confused I Shocked just Surprised can't Embarassed help Rolling Eyes it Mad

I Exclamation am Smile possessed Idea by Arrow the Twisted Evil emoticons Laughing

Well, at least I'm not being called a fanboy! Wink Ooops Embarassed Sorry.
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
A fanboy of emoticons Mr. Green
Rosepetal on 7 Apr '08
A fanboy of emoticons Mr. Green

Hey, where did you get that green one from? Ooohh, there's some more down here.. Neutral
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
Mr. GreenVery HappySmileSadSurprisedShockedConfusedCoolLaughingMadRazzEmbarassedCrying or Very sadEvil or Very MadTwisted EvilRolling EyesWinkExclamationQuestionIdeaArrow
in all fairness...ppl KEEP SAYING i have 50000 games for xbox and only 3 on ps3. that is because all next gen consoles share the same games. the only xbox360-only game i would want is Halo and that was developed for the xbox. the gfx are the same as my gameboy emulator ive got on my pc so i can play super mario.
btw marky, im gonna add u on ps3 friends list Smile
im noLogo
nologo on 7 Apr '08
Mr. GreenVery HappySmileSadSurprisedShockedConfusedCoolLaughingMadRazzEmbarassedCrying or Very sadEvil or Very MadTwisted EvilRolling EyesWinkExclamationQuestionIdeaArrow
in all fairness...ppl KEEP SAYING i have 50000 games for xbox and only 3 on ps3. that is because all next gen consoles share the same games. the only xbox360-only game i would want is Halo and that was developed for the xbox. the gfx are the same as my gameboy emulator ive got on my pc so i can play super mario.
btw marky, im gonna add u on ps3 friends list Smile
im noLogo

Cool, I'll look out for you, matey. I wouldn't have slagged off Halo gfx tho. That's worse than calling their mama's! Laughing
Mark240473 on 7 Apr '08
Sony aren't doing too badly for themselves at all this generation, considering there are only three types of people who are buying their hardware:

A) Fools who value brand-names more than substance,
B) Blu-Ray early adopters, and
C) Bitter X360 owners who gave up after chronic RROD attacks.

As soon as they build up a solid library of (full) games, we should have a proper two-horse race on our hands. I reckon 2009 should see the PS3 finally come into it's own.
SunScramble on 7 Apr '08
In other news: Cadbury calls Nestle a c**t.

Brilliant

lmao, excellent

The only PS3 exclusive game worth playing at the moment on a PS3 is GT Prologue( and thats just half a game because if you then get GT5 youre paying for the same again ), anything else can be played on a 360 or PC or whatever.

Other than that, MGS4 - hmmm, maybe, the series is getting old though, MGS1 was brilliant and innovative and nothjing came close afterwards, in fact the series has become the new Dragons Lair

Little Big Planet - looks excellent and fun, has some serious potential

Sony and M$ rants are getting really old now, kids the lot of them, we'll be listening to this BluRay victory crap for the next 10 years

Really? WOW if knew Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk and a few others were on the 360 or PC I would never have got a PS3! Rolling Eyes
Johnny_5 on 7 Apr '08
Still only have 1 ps3 game against 40 for my 360 yep keep the good work sony I may three games by the end of 2008 the GREAT YEAR.

If you don't have both Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted, you're really missing out.
nb_nmare2 on 7 Apr '08
As you many of may know by now I am a sony fanboy. However its not the sbox which bugs me at the moment, its the blasted wi wii thing, selling tons of dressed up gamecubes to the uneducated masses. I know it has been outselling the other 2. Its just really what is meant to be so great about mario games? I dont like platform games, I dont like cartooney graphics and well why would anyone over the age of 15 want to play mario instead of DMC4 ot COD4?(which of course are on both the serious consoles).

My Fanboy rant is over...
harvoid on 7 Apr '08
Sony: MS "punched themselves out of the fight"

I love the combat terminology...

Then MS gas themselves out only to pull off an arm-bar late in the third round submitting Sony Very Happy

This is like Sony and MS arguing over a pie and Nintendo sneaking up and stealing it while they are busy fighting over said pie.
kimoak on 7 Apr '08
As you many of may know by now I am a sony fanboy. However its not the sbox which bugs me at the moment, its the blasted wi wii thing, selling tons of dressed up gamecubes to the uneducated masses. I know it has been outselling the other 2. Its just really what is meant to be so great about mario games? I dont like platform games, I dont like cartooney graphics and well why would anyone over the age of 15 want to play mario instead of DMC4 ot COD4?(which of course are on both the serious consoles).

My Fanboy rant is over...

Because I like mario, and been playing mario games for over 15 years.

oh before you start ranting I have DMC4 for PS3 and 1200 other games for about 30 or more consoles
unforgetable on 7 Apr '08
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Vegito70 on 7 Apr '08
No Lord PS3? Shocked

Come on Lord PS3, give us a taste of your superior gaming taste and wisdom. Laughing
vectra on 7 Apr '08
I have to laugh at the fanboy comments it is rather amusing, some people only have 1 game for there ps3, very strange i have about 20 for my PS3!
Wazomba563 on 7 Apr '08
This is like Sony and MS arguing over a pie and Nintendo sneaking up and stealing it while they are busy fighting over said pie.

Well done sir! There's not enough pie analogies on this website for my liking
dweebosh on 7 Apr '08
I think its pretty obvious the PS3 will come out on top against 360.

The fact its sales have kept up with 360 even though it hasnt 'played any of its great cards yet' shows that the brand name matters more than the games in this gen.

The only one it's obvious to is you because you're making **** up.

Let's see how the NPD data (data from the most important gaming region of them all) shows after GTA4 drops and Microsoft fixes their console shortages over here.
matthew_m_g on 7 Apr '08
I think its pretty obvious the PS3 will come out on top against 360.

The fact its sales have kept up with 360 even though it hasnt 'played any of its great cards yet' shows that the brand name matters more than the games in this gen.

The only one it's obvious to is you because you're making **** up.

Let's see how the NPD data (data from the most important gaming region of them all) shows after GTA4 drops and Microsoft fixes their console shortages over here.

Why am I making s**t up? Im only going on what ive read & what people I speak to say.

Ive read loads of articles that say PS3 sales are the same, if not ahead of the 360 on a month to month basis apart from America.
The fact its managed this even though ATM the 360 games library is easily superior & the PS3 has no outstanding games yet, whereas the 360 has a few. I think this shows how strong the PS brand name is.

Also my mates that are casual gamers still arent contemplating getting a 360 even after I told them I think its the better console. Playstation is the console name they know & its the one they are going to buy & no matter what I say they have their mind made up.
mfnick on 7 Apr '08
I dont know about Sony shooting its mouth off at this stage. THus far we haven't seen anything that really blew up hardware sales for the PS3. GTA4 and MGS4 and the next FF install will have to pass before they can say where they are at. Granted how big of a lead Nintendo has over everyone else worldwide, it'd take at least 2 years of PS3 sales at its current trend and ZERO Wii sales in that same time period, which we all know isn't going to happen.

I can't forsee anything that would change things as they are. The Ps3 might take 2nd place in the sales rankings of current gen systems, under the Wii, due to the lack of sales in Japan for the XB360. I think that the US will see XB360 sales surpassing the PS3 sales, and Europe will be the tiebreaker between the two systems, for who gets 2nd and 3rd place.
distant2nd on 7 Apr '08
Why is it whenever I hear a Sony exec release a statement, it sounds like they're in denial?
W3881N5 on 7 Apr '08
Hey 'unforgetable', I just dont see the appeal of the Mario the 'village people' plumber games.
It's just how this whole dumbed down marketing stratgey from the big N has worked so well, allowing them to shift old tech.

Old tech does mean cheap I suppose..

Im glad you like DMC4 though, great game, best 3rd person control system ever I reckon.

Smile
harvoid on 7 Apr '08
Hey 'unforgetable', I just dont see the appeal of the Mario the 'village people' plumber games.
It's just how this whole dumbed down marketing stratgey from the big N has worked so well, allowing them to shift old tech.

Old tech does mean cheap I suppose..

Im glad you like DMC4 though, great game, best 3rd person control system ever I reckon.

Smile
harvoid on 7 Apr '08
Hey 'unforgetable', I just dont see the appeal of the Mario the 'village people' plumber games.
It's just how this whole dumbed down marketing stratgey from the big N has worked so well, allowing them to shift old tech.

Old tech does mean cheap I suppose..

Im glad you like DMC4 though, great game, best 3rd person control system ever I reckon.

Smile

I do see your point of view on the whole Mario thing. I like playing them from time to time because of the game play.

When I want some big combos I play DMC4 or any of the God of War games
unforgetable on 7 Apr '08
No Lord PS3? Shocked

Come on Lord PS3, give us a taste of your superior gaming taste and wisdom. Laughing

This political quibbling ist für bürokraten. The 360 ist officially dead as of January '08. It is now just a matter of funeral arrangements.

I am a soldier of technology and a Spartan amongst immortals (some of you are that old).

To repeat my claims :

- Blu-ray to kill HD DVD. Blu-ray to fully replace DVD by 2011.

- PS3 is the most officially open platform seen on any games console.

- PS3 provides the best value technology available.

- PS3 will win 2008 and 2009.

- RROD, expired warranties will ensure the 360's continued demise.

- Release dates for Home, "in game XMB", WipEout HD and GT5Razz all before printed here.

- PS3 prices would drop by end of March (and indeed are now Ł279 from Ł299).


Armed with information against a barrage of suggestion and criticism - I claim valor and victory in this pro-360 corporate forum. Due to my graft, skill across enemy lines and Sony... The PS3 has now turned the tide.

May XBox 360's be buried with Mass(ive) (D)e(f)fect at Arlington cemetery. RIP. You will not be forgotten.

XBox 360: An inferior enemy with typical strong US financial backing.
Wii: Women and children are the innocent casualties of war.
PlayStation 3: Superior weapons and technology.
LordVonPS3 on 7 Apr '08
I am a soldier of technology and a Spartan amongst immortals (some of you are that old).
<snip>

Armed with information against a barrage of suggestion and criticism - I claim valor and victory in this pro-360 corporate forum. Due to my graft, skill across enemy lines and Sony... The PS3 has now turned the tide.

LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing OMG you crack me up.

Good stuff. Laughing
vectra on 7 Apr '08
Odd he didn't mention Killzone 2.
horngreen on 7 Apr '08
GREAT, more reason for fanboy wars

i own both consoles and both have fair advantages like the ps3s browser and free online play but the 360 has a greater variety of games and better online play. but if you take into account the 1 year and 11 months headstart the 360 got over the ps3, then obviously its going to have a better line up of games due to inpatient developers who would not wait for the ps3s release to release their games.

in fact, if the ps3 had been released the same day as the 360, gears of war, mass effect, bioshock and many others would also be on ps3 right now, but microsoft seduced those developers with alot of $$$ so that they would make them exclusive to the 360. and all sony could do was sit back and watch as games flowed onto 360 while their console was still in development
TravisIRL on 7 Apr '08
No Lord PS3? Shocked

Come on Lord PS3, give us a taste of your superior gaming taste and wisdom. Laughing

This political quibbling ist für bürokraten. The 360 ist officially dead as of January '08. It is now just a matter of funeral arrangements.

I am a soldier of technology and a Spartan amongst immortals (some of you are that old).

To repeat my claims :

- Blu-ray to kill HD DVD. Blu-ray to fully replace DVD by 2011.

- PS3 is the most officially open platform seen on any games console.

- PS3 provides the best value technology available.

- PS3 will win 2008 and 2009.

- RROD, expired warranties will ensure the 360's continued demise.

- Release dates for Home, "in game XMB", WipEout HD and GT5Razz all before printed here.

- PS3 prices would drop by end of March (and indeed are now Ł279 from Ł299).


Armed with information against a barrage of suggestion and criticism - I claim valor and victory in this pro-360 corporate forum. Due to my graft, skill across enemy lines and Sony... The PS3 has now turned the tide.

May XBox 360's be buried with Mass(ive) (D)e(f)fect at Arlington cemetery. RIP. You will not be forgotten.

XBox 360: An inferior enemy with typical strong US financial backing.
Wii: Women and children are the innocent casualties of war.
PlayStation 3: Superior weapons and technology.

i love you
TravisIRL on 7 Apr '08
oh and here is another thing i forgot to mention

ps3 release price = $600
xbox 360 release price = $500
if you add on the $200 for the hd-dvd drive
then the 20-60 dollars for subscription that gives a total of $760, an extra $160 dollars for the full 360 experience, but hi def playback comes standard, free online play and a much more reliable system LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing
TravisIRL on 7 Apr '08
so, ps3 comes with everything, but for full xbox experience you must pay an extra $160, that adds up to be more than the ps3s retail price
TravisIRL on 7 Apr '08
blah, blah, blah

i love you

Shocked *speechless*
vectra on 8 Apr '08
On another note, he also teased about the likelihood of music and movie downloads on PS3 soon. "We have entertainment leverage and that means music and movies. No other company has that ability or those assets.

If only Microsoft offered a music & film download service. Oh! wait - they do. Has Sony been sticking their collective heads in the sand?

I was going to write soemthing to that effect.

Also this SONY marketing guy is effectively saying "Yeh we didn't really bother to get good games and features out, we prefer to make our customers wait." Yes I said it the Wword Playstation fans know all too well.

With the Ps3 and XBox 360 both doing relatively poorly and the Wii running off with an (In my opinion undeserved) victory, im set for the next-gen, collectively this generation has done what Microsoft have done with the 360 in the too much-too soon sense.
fleeties on 8 Apr '08
I bought a PS3 just over a week ago with Uncharted: Drake's Fortune and Devil May Cry 4. Devil May Cry 4 has hardly been played yet as Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is such a good game. It looks beautiful.

I don't have an Xbox 360 or a Wii but I disagree that, as far as my tastes go, 2008 is Sony's year. Rare remain a distinctive feather in the Xbox360's cap with the next Banjo game.
Picnic12 on 13 Apr '08
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