Rockstar co-founder and creative VP Dan Houser has said that he hopes players will get the same feeling with GTA IV as they did when they played Grand Theft Auto III for the first time.
"What we wanted was the feeling when you saw GTA III after GTA II", he said in an interview with Variety. "The feeling when [you] see IV compared to III, hopefully it's not difficult to see differences."
Houser also touched upon the need to protect the Grand Theft Auto license from exploitation, debunking any remaining rumours for a movie adaptation.
"The intellectual property is the main asset in the company. That's why 'GTA' is still relevant ten years later. We haven't put one out every year. We haven't fleeced it. And we haven't put it on 50 different formats.
"We're not per se against moving properties between different media but for GTA it just seems so perfect as a game. You lose a lot of what makes it what it is if you move it into being, say, a movie. It just never seemed interesting creatively."
I try to avoid hype, but GTA4 just gets more interesting the more I read about it. Read a 17 page preview this weekend and it sounds even better than I thought - especially the multi-player.
I can't wait to get started in Liberty City - I plan on using a little bit of stealth and taking my time to make sure the missions go without a hitch (I firmly expect quite a few of you lot to finish it long before me, but, I like to take my time)
I just know this is going to be very special indeed.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record: Most people already had that feeling again. It was called Saints Row
Actually, that was also previewed in the magazine I'd read over the weekend and it's looking pretty damn good too - it might even be less 'bling' than the first (for me, that's all they need to ditch to make it a sale)...
At the risk of sounding like a broken record: Most people already had that feeling again. It was called Saints Row
Saints what? and yes you are right... you do sound like a broken record
Oh and yeah i take ages completing games aswell.
80+ hrs on Oblivion (PC) and not even touched the main quest or completed half of the guild quest stories with my current save. Also played around 20+ hrs on Mass Effect and hardly done much in it at all. I p**s around to much i think
Exactly the reason I need to keep repeating myself People either never gave it a chance or never played it - but the people who did can realise how much of a leap it was from GTA III. It was certainly a stepping stone for what GTA IV has done.
To be fair I'm getting a little sick of hearing about this game now. My experience with GTA's its just fun for a short while and then the novelty wears off. There are more interesting games out there with out chav simulators. There is enough turmoil out on the street with the chavs out there let alone a game like this to encourage their simple minds even more.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record: Most people already had that feeling again. It was called Saints Row
Saints what? and yes you are right... you do sound like a broken record
Oh and yeah i take ages completing games aswell.
80+ hrs on Oblivion (PC) and not even touched the main quest or completed half of the guild quest stories with my current save. Also played around 20+ hrs on Mass Effect and hardly done much in it at all. I p**s around to much i think
Me too - better to take things slow and take it all in, in my opinion. That's why I really can't understand why so many were getting their knickers in a twist over a 5 minute install time.....jeez, I probably wouldn't have even thought about stealing a car within that time.....it'll be a jogging sim at that point
Did you guys notice that 'Dan Houser' mentioned that he doesn't want GTA to be a franchise that has a new title released every year on 50 different formats?
LOL.....you can tell that He and most probably all of Rockstar, really do not want a hostile takeover from the evil EA.
I'm sorry but as much as I enjoyed Saints Row to a point, I never had the same feel of amazement that I had when I first played GTA 3. Saints Row was just San Andreas with an awful script and a few game play improvements.
GTA IV is looking like it's gonna take open world gaming to the next level.
Did you guys notice that 'Dan Houser' mentioned that he doesn't want GTA to be a franchise that has a new title released every year on 50 different formats?
LOL.....you can tell that He and most probably all of Rockstar, really do not want a hostile takeover from the evil EA.
Yeah, you have to assume that it was a direct reference to the takeover talk. Nobody wants this run into the ground - having said that, I do hope we get things like Vice City and San Andreas versions using the GTA4 template....can't say I'd mind if they milked that out of it
I'm sorry but as much as I enjoyed Saints Row to a point, I never had the same feel of amazement that I had when I first played GTA 3. Saints Row was just San Andreas with an awful script and a few game play improvements.
GTA IV is looking like it's gonna take open world gaming to the next level.
A few improvements? Don't make me type out the list again. And lets not forget, aside from the story and jokes, which will be much better than Saints Row for sure - everything we know so far about GTA IV is taken from Saints Row. So good luck with that..
Did you guys notice that 'Dan Houser' mentioned that he doesn't want GTA to be a franchise that has a new title released every year on 50 different formats?
LOL.....you can tell that He and most probably all of Rockstar, really do not want a hostile takeover from the evil EA.
Yeah I can't see Dan Houser staying to make GTA games if EA were to get their dirty hands on Take two. Could you imagine EA saying "Take as much time as you want with the next GTA Dan, 4 years you say? That's no problem because we know that time is needed to create great games!"
I just wonder will Liberty city still have the same feel to it, will the areas that were in GTA3 still be familiar , I loved GTA3...in some ways it was better than the 2 that followed. will it have the same gangs? can't wait to see what's on the soundtrack as well.....
I know what you mean. Graphically you can't match that change from 2D to 3D. I think he's talking about all the background simulation stuff like the mobile phone, GPS, comedy clubs, cover system and whatever. Big leap, but yeah, less people are going to notice.
I think he's talking about all the background simulation stuff like the mobile phone, GPS, comedy clubs, cover system and whatever. Big leap, but yeah, less people are going to notice.
To be fair I'm getting a little sick of hearing about this game now. My experience with GTA's its just fun for a short while and then the novelty wears off. There are more interesting games out there with out chav simulators. There is enough turmoil out on the street with the chavs out there let alone a game like this to encourage their simple minds even more.
Don't read the article then. It's clearly labelled as GTAIV. So if you're "sick of hearing about this game" then jog on. Sheesh!
I think he's talking about all the background simulation stuff like the mobile phone, GPS, comedy clubs, cover system and whatever. Big leap, but yeah, less people are going to notice.
I think he's talking about all the background simulation stuff like the mobile phone, GPS, comedy clubs, cover system and whatever. Big leap, but yeah, less people are going to notice.
The leap was already made. Again: Saints Row.
Saints Row is gash.
People keep saying that, yet they clearly never played it. 90% of the 'new' things GTA IV is doing (from what we know so far) was done first in Saints Row. Had you played it, you'd know that.
I think he's talking about all the background simulation stuff like the mobile phone, GPS, comedy clubs, cover system and whatever. Big leap, but yeah, less people are going to notice.
The leap was already made. Again: Saints Row.
Saints Row is gash.
People keep saying that, yet they clearly never played it. 90% of the 'new' things GTA IV is doing (from what we know so far) was done first in Saints Row. Had you played it, you'd know that.
Once again, I think it's just the perception of Saints Row as a GTA clone - it is the most similar in terms of setting compared to other 'sandbox' types.
Like I said earlier, the sequel is looking pretty good so far and it should recieve a far more positive reception this time round from the GTA die-hards.
There's certainly nothing wrong with something that is similar to a great game......as long as it's also great (and isn't ludicrously 'gansta')
Personally I'm expecting a game that I can either pick up and enjoy for five minutes, or sit down and lose hours to.
The beauty of the GTA games is that you can do just that; play it for five minutes or five hours. No, I'm not expecting miracles, but a next gen version of GTA will be just fine for me.
I've been looking at picking up Saints Row on the cheap, is it recommended or d'you reckon it's worth hanging on til the sequel comes out ?
Personally I'm expecting a game that I can either pick up and enjoy for five minutes, or sit down and lose hours to.
The beauty of the GTA games is that you can do just that; play it for five minutes or five hours. No, I'm not expecting miracles, but a next gen version of GTA will be just fine for me.
I've been looking at picking up Saints Row on the cheap, is it recommended or d'you reckon it's worth hanging on til the sequel comes out ?
You can pick up the first for next to nothing these days (especially pre-owned), but the sequel is looking far superior.
Of course you know I'm going to say it's recommended Personally I've had more enjoyment out of Saints Row in the time it's been out than I've had in GTA III/VC/SA put together (though nothing beats the atmosphere of Vice City)
Mainly because of the physics, the explosions, the chases and all the little details like GPS, out-of-car MP3 player, smashing through windscreens in crashes, great fighting mechanic, hilarious mini-games such as insurance fraud (throw yourself infront of cars to get cash ) and the customisation is unrivalled in the genre. Your character and car can look pretty much however you like. Plus the whole city is always open, none of this 'oh you cant go here till you do a certain mission' bull. It's supposed to be an open world, and so it IS!
I've been looking at picking up Saints Row on the cheap, is it recommended or d'you reckon it's worth hanging on til the sequel comes out ?
If you really like smut, stereotypical Gangsta themes, excessive swearing & repeating side missions over & over to fill a respect bar then get it. Otherwise wait for the sequal.
Im being a bit harsh as I did get some enjoyment from it & as has been said the combat is much better than any of the previous GTA's. But the 'gangstaness' of it all really annoyed me. Never play it with anyone else in the room its very embarasing sometimes just how immature it all gets.
Im being a bit harsh as I did get some enjoyment from it & as has been said the combat is much better than any of the previous GTA's. But the 'gangstaness' of it all really annoyed me. Never play it with anyone else in the room its very embarasing sometimes just how immature it all gets.
I agree about the swearing and smut, its a little TOO over the top - but did you play San Andreas? The whole gangster/ghetto thing was much more in your face in that game. That's why I seriously want somebody (hopefully Rockstar) to get the hell out of American culture with these games. It's been done to death and we need a change of pace. It's always the same old stories and settings.
I agree about the swearing and smut, its a little TOO over the top - but did you play San Andreas? The whole gangster/ghetto thing was much more in your face in that game. That's why I seriously want somebody (hopefully Rockstar) to get the hell out of American culture with these games. It's been done to death and we need a change of pace. It's always the same old stories and settings.
Aye, San Andreas was bad too but I thought Saints Row was a hell of a lot worse. Still the best GTA clone ive ever played though, not exactly saying much though is it?
Agree completely about getting out of American culture. I absolutely despise the generic, 2 dimensional, soulless crap that gets made based on it.
I must admit it took me a while to get into San An, but after I persevered it was really good and I played it non stop. It was just so vast. I had trouble identifying with the Character CJ to begin with and it was quite dark, but the story got better the further in you got and I played it to 100%. I didn’t go much on going to the Gym, eating, or changing clothes, haircuts and stuff to be honest.
I have to admit, I am already quite a fan of what I have seen of Nico, I think he could be a really strong character. I like the stories told by the GTA series and Tommy Vercetti is still my favorite, although I do like Vic Vance as well.
I agree about the swearing and smut, its a little TOO over the top - but did you play San Andreas? The whole gangster/ghetto thing was much more in your face in that game. That's why I seriously want somebody (hopefully Rockstar) to get the hell out of American culture with these games. It's been done to death and we need a change of pace. It's always the same old stories and settings.
Aye, San Andreas was bad too but I thought Saints Row was a hell of a lot worse. Still the best GTA clone ive ever played though, not exactly saying much though is it?
Agree completely about getting out of American culture. I absolutely despise the generic, 2 dimensional, soulless crap that gets made based on it.
Kingpin took the "gangsta" thing a bit too far on the PC years ago. San Andreas did as well, I think GTA needs a new setting now though. How about Spain, the Bahamas, Italy or Scotland?
I agree about the swearing and smut, its a little TOO over the top - but did you play San Andreas? The whole gangster/ghetto thing was much more in your face in that game. That's why I seriously want somebody (hopefully Rockstar) to get the hell out of American culture with these games. It's been done to death and we need a change of pace. It's always the same old stories and settings.
Aye, San Andreas was bad too but I thought Saints Row was a hell of a lot worse. Still the best GTA clone ive ever played though, not exactly saying much though is it?
Agree completely about getting out of American culture. I absolutely despise the generic, 2 dimensional, soulless crap that gets made based on it.
Kingpin took the "gangsta" thing a bit too far on the PC years ago. San Andreas did as well, I think GTA needs a new setting now though. How about Spain, the Bahamas, Italy or Scotland?
Kingpin was a horrible game - it actually made me angry how utterly excessive it was.
Totally agree about trying new countries/cities for GTA - London would be the obvious one, but how about one set in Italy?....obvious Mafia connotations and beautiful cityscapes - sounds perfect to me!
I'd like to see one set in Tokyo (biggest city in the world, 18 million inhabitants,) or Hong Kong using the Triads as a template.
Another fine choice - extremely colourful and vibrant too, got to be better than some of the bland areas in San Andreas.
Actually, when you think about it - there's plenty of places they could take it to that would be really cool...maybe they'll try some out for the obvious GTA4 updates (VC and SA types)
Kingpin was a horrible game - it actually made me angry how utterly excessive it was.
Totally agree about trying new countries/cities for GTA - London would be the obvious one, but how about one set in Italy?....obvious Mafia connotations and beautiful cityscapes - sounds perfect to me!
yeah it was, it had some good ideas at the time. I liked the way you could put away your weapon as not everyone was an enemy. This feature wasn't 100% properly done though and there were a few bugs that caused me to have to restart.
The language in that game was incredibly bad! Flexed my PC at the time nicely with that Quake engine though
Kingpin was a horrible game - it actually made me angry how utterly excessive it was.
Totally agree about trying new countries/cities for GTA - London would be the obvious one, but how about one set in Italy?....obvious Mafia connotations and beautiful cityscapes - sounds perfect to me!
yeah it was, it had some good ideas at the time. I liked the way you could put away your weapon as not everyone was an enemy. This feature wasn't 100% properly done though and there were a few bugs that caused me to have to restart.
The language in that game was incredibly bad! Flexed my PC at the time nicely with that Quake engine though
Urgh - I can still hear the sound of people screaming after you got them with the flamethrower.....certainly not one for the kiddies!
I love how people comment on this game like they've played it already. Let's leave out the cynicism until it's actually out shall we?
Saints Row was a good game but it was not a huge leap, it copied way to much of GTA without adding any magic. It was (mostly) robust and entertaining but it missed the whole point. GTA has become an excellent satire on whatever era it focuses on as well as an awesome sandbox. SR mimicked too much to really have it's own identity.
I await this new installment with an ever increasing excitement and a hint of trepidation. It probably won't be the jump from 2d to 3d but from everything I've read there is a ton of improvements (some taken from other places) that will hopefully make this the sequel we all want.
I agree about the swearing and smut, its a little TOO over the top - but did you play San Andreas? The whole gangster/ghetto thing was much more in your face in that game. That's why I seriously want somebody (hopefully Rockstar) to get the hell out of American culture with these games. It's been done to death and we need a change of pace. It's always the same old stories and settings.
Aye, San Andreas was bad too but I thought Saints Row was a hell of a lot worse. Still the best GTA clone ive ever played though, not exactly saying much though is it?
Agree completely about getting out of American culture. I absolutely despise the generic, 2 dimensional, soulless crap that gets made based on it.
Kingpin took the "gangsta" thing a bit too far on the PC years ago. San Andreas did as well, I think GTA needs a new setting now though. How about Spain, the Bahamas, Italy or Scotland?
Kingpin was a horrible game - it actually made me angry how utterly excessive it was.
Totally agree about trying new countries/cities for GTA - London would be the obvious one, but how about one set in Italy?....obvious Mafia connotations and beautiful cityscapes - sounds perfect to me!
Not Milan, its a s**te city and not at all interesting, although Barcelona's Grid structure and ring roads would be great IMO!! Its got a port, Airport, countryside close, would be great!! Although it looks like someone beat them to it I noticed this morning!!
Saints Row was a good game but it was not a huge leap, it copied way to much of GTA without adding any magic.
We're talking GTA III to Saints Row. Huge leap in my book. I'm not gonna go through all the things it does better again, I'm sick of it.
We're not talking the 2D-3D kind of leap - we're talking how far the pushed the idea. It did a lot of things that Rockstar never did (until GTA IV of course).
I agree about the swearing and smut, its a little TOO over the top - but did you play San Andreas? The whole gangster/ghetto thing was much more in your face in that game. That's why I seriously want somebody (hopefully Rockstar) to get the hell out of American culture with these games. It's been done to death and we need a change of pace. It's always the same old stories and settings.
Aye, San Andreas was bad too but I thought Saints Row was a hell of a lot worse. Still the best GTA clone ive ever played though, not exactly saying much though is it?
Agree completely about getting out of American culture. I absolutely despise the generic, 2 dimensional, soulless crap that gets made based on it.
Kingpin took the "gangsta" thing a bit too far on the PC years ago. San Andreas did as well, I think GTA needs a new setting now though. How about Spain, the Bahamas, Italy or Scotland?
Kingpin was a horrible game - it actually made me angry how utterly excessive it was.
Totally agree about trying new countries/cities for GTA - London would be the obvious one, but how about one set in Italy?....obvious Mafia connotations and beautiful cityscapes - sounds perfect to me!
Not Milan, its a s**te city and not at all interesting, although Barcelona's Grid structure and ring roads would be great IMO!! Its got a port, Airport, countryside close, would be great!! Although it looks like someone beat them to it I noticed this morning!!
Nah, I was thinking more of Rome.....but, Barcelona sounds cool too - hell, there's lots of cities that would be great
Not in the least bit interested in GTA series as the whole premise of the game doesn't appeal to me, also I think the graphics.. (from what I've seen) look rubbish. It's good that it can exist though and it will sell by the bucket load
woohoo...just 1 week,4 hrs and 22minutes,and i should be buying it(midnight opening GAME,trafford centre,manchester)...but it will be another 45 minutes after until i am playing as i will have to walk home.......d'oh
if i had any spare money to spend GTAIV would seriously make me think about getting a console but all i can do is wait and hope for hopefully an inevitable announcement that a pc version has been in development for quite a while
people thinking these graphics are s**t are idiots. only when u see it up and running - living and breathing - will u be able to apprieciate the greatness of whats going on here.
People who say "u" instead of "you" are idots, because they have the intelligence of an 11 year old. Thats mainly cause they are 11 years old mind.
people thinking these graphics are s**t are idiots. only when u see it up and running - living and breathing - will u be able to apprieciate the greatness of whats going on here.
People who say "u" instead of "you" are idots, because they have the intelligence of an 11 year old. Thats mainly cause they are 11 years old mind.
In conclusion, you are an idiot.
If you are going to post something like that, at least make sure your spelling and grammar is accurate.
people thinking these graphics are s**t are idiots. only when u see it up and running - living and breathing - will u be able to apprieciate the greatness of whats going on here.
People who say "u" instead of "you" are idots, because they have the intelligence of an 11 year old. Thats mainly cause they are 11 years old mind.
In conclusion, you are an idiot.
If you are going to post something like that, at least make sure your spelling and grammar is accurate.
I'd like to see one set in Tokyo (biggest city in the world, 18 million inhabitants,) or Hong Kong using the Triads as a template.
Another fine choice - extremely colourful and vibrant too, got to be better than some of the bland areas in San Andreas.
Actually, when you think about it - there's plenty of places they could take it to that would be really cool...maybe they'll try some out for the obvious GTA4 updates (VC and SA types)
How about one set in Trumpton? Windy miller could be a 'gamsta pimp' with some nice bitches or something.
people thinking these graphics are s**t are idiots. only when u see it up and running - living and breathing - will u be able to apprieciate the greatness of whats going on here.
People who say "u" instead of "you" are idots, because they have the intelligence of an 11 year old. Thats mainly cause they are 11 years old mind.
In conclusion, you are an idiot.
Didn't anyone else see the slight irony in Vercettis' post? (unless he works for R*, that is)
Looks very good, but GTA 3 was kind of lame, every vehicle was slow as a huge ass van.
VC & SA were much better than GTA 3.
Ill get GTA IV for 360 first, but im hoping it comes to PC with 50-100 player multi.
Also, the graphics are ok.. but we already had these in Saints row tbh, and they are probably gonna milk this new engine like mad so expect to see another 2 games based on this engine.. it will then look pretty dated.
Im being a bit harsh as I did get some enjoyment from it & as has been said the combat is much better than any of the previous GTA's. But the 'gangstaness' of it all really annoyed me. Never play it with anyone else in the room its very embarasing sometimes just how immature it all gets.
I agree about the swearing and smut, its a little TOO over the top - but did you play San Andreas? The whole gangster/ghetto thing was much more in your face in that game. That's why I seriously want somebody (hopefully Rockstar) to get the hell out of American culture with these games. It's been done to death and we need a change of pace. It's always the same old stories and settings.
there was a balance to San andreas it could almost have been a gangsta movie ala boyz in the hood or menace 2 society, it wasnt about big spinning rims it was more about a good guy brought up in the wrong environment.
saints row on the other hand was more like Ali G, it just tries to hard and so was completelty unnatural feeling (and completely un funny)the gameplay was good tho
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Kingpin took the "gangsta" thing a bit too far on the PC years ago. San Andreas did as well, I think GTA needs a new setting now though. How about Spain, the Bahamas, Italy or Scotland?
