Nintendo has apologised to those offended by Wii Fit after the software came under fire for dubbing children "fat".
Update: Nintendo has issued CVG its full statement regarding Wii Fit complaints: ""Nintendo would like to apologise to any customers offended by the in-game terminology used to classify a player's current BMI status, as part of the BMI measurement system integrated into Wii Fit.
"The BMI classifications featured within Wii Fit are universal, standard measurements widely used within the medical and fitness profession. We have used BMI and its associated terminology as the in-game measurement in Wii Fit as it is a widely recognised indicator of a healthy weight range since it measures a player's weight, scaled to their height.
"As such it is the best available generic measurement that can assess a player's progress whilst using Wii Fit. The different classifications applied in Wii Fit are those used officially with BMI.
"As stated in the Wii Fit manual, BMI is essentially a measure of body fat, based on an adult height and weight. Wii Fit is still capable of measuring the BMI for people aged between 2 and 20 BUT the resulting figures may not be entirely accurate for younger age groups due to varying levels of development.
"The BMI results will differ depending on an individual's stage of development. People with more muscle mass than normal will also have a higher BMI rating due to the heavy weight of muscle tissue, so the resulting figures should be used for reference purposes only.
"We appreciate that some players might want to keep their in-game assessment details private. Users playing Wii Fit have the option to hide their on screen weight so it will not be seen when playing in a group environment. In addition, if users prefer to play Wii Fit in a group environment, but do not wish their BMI rating to be viewed, they can choose to play the Wii Fit activities as a GUEST without having to participate in the weighing and BMI measuring process."Update Ends.
The game uses the BMI system (Body Mass Index) to determine the physical condition of users, but Tam Fry, a spokesperson from National Obesity Forum says that it's inaccurate for children, and should not be used.
"I'm absolutely aghast that children are being told they are fat," Fry told Daily Mail, after a father reported the trauma of his 10-year-old stepdaughter, who the software labelled as "fat".
"BMI is far from perfect but with children it simply should not be used," he added. "A child's BMI can change every month and it is perfectly possible for a child to be stocky, yet still very fit."
The kafuffle started when one father told of his "devastated" 10-year-old stepdaughter, who the game labelled fat, despite apparently being "perfectly healthy". "She is solidly built but not fat.," said the anonymous parent.
Fry called upon Nintendo to include warnings with the software. "I would be very concerned if children were using this game and I believe it should carry a warning for parents."
I bought Wii Fit becos i am indeed overweight while the kids are enjoying all the fun activities in the game with no problems regarding being offended!
I bet the users in the USA will sue over slight muscle aches and pain after using Wii Fit.
I bought Wii Fit becos i am indeed overweight while the kids are enjoying all the fun activities in the game with no problems regarding being offended!
I bet the users in the USA will sue over slight muscle aches and pain after using Wii Fit.
Oh great another sweeping statement about the USA. Nintendo should have known to use a different word than "fat". Should they be sued? No. I guess they could patch it if the Wii wasn't using hardware from 1998. I'm starting to think we should have let Hitler trounce you morons. Here's a broad general statement for you. You're gay and you have bad teeth. How's that feel?
Oh great another sweeping statement about the USA. Nintendo should have known to use a different word than "fat". Should they be sued? No. I guess they could patch it if the Wii wasn't using hardware from 1998. I'm starting to think we should have let Hitler trounce you morons. Here's a broad general statement for you. You're gay and you have bad teeth. How's that feel?
Actually wii fit doesn't ever call you 'fat'. They do have 'overweight' and 'obese' when calculating BMI though.
Oh and if you did let 'Hitler trounce' us then the USA would have fallen too, though a little later.
What's wrong with telling fat kids they are fat? Maybe if they are shamed enough they might do something about it, rather than become the 40 stone tub of lard that I saw on the programme 'Half Ton Dad' the other night.
can you believe that 10% of america is fat and over 20 stone, 3% are gay, and 100% are stupid flag sucking morons.
i'd use your flag to wipe the jizz off hilary clintons hairy tash!
Only 3% of Americans are openly gay because the rest are too scared to come out due to America's homophobic culture.
According to the government it's 6% here.
Taking that into account, there are gay people using this site, so STFU horngreen.
Oh yeah, and back to the topic, WiiFit never calls you fat, only overweight or obese (I reckon obese sounds worse than fat personally). I can't beleive anyone would take this so personally, it's like the people from Liverpool who complained to Watchdog last year because Brain Training didn't understand them when the shouted "yella" into the microphone. It's YELLOW people, say it right...
I think that the game should nickname fat kids, s everytime they log on it says "Hey Fatty!" and it could be followed by: "Eat any good doughnuts lately?"
My fav line was "a kid could be stocky but not necessarily fat"
Stocky is just a polite word for fat on this side of the pond. Your kid is so fat that if you cut them open, gravy would pour out.
PS - Can we knock it off with the Britain vs US bashing? The American Revolution ended a while back. Move on.
Oh great another sweeping statement about the USA. Nintendo should have known to use a different word than "fat". Should they be sued? No. I guess they could patch it if the Wii wasn't using hardware from 1998. I'm starting to think we should have let Hitler trounce you morons. Here's a broad general statement for you. You're gay and you have bad teeth. How's that feel?
Actually wii fit doesn't ever call you 'fat'. They do have 'overweight' and 'obese' when calculating BMI though.
Oh and if you did let 'Hitler trounce' us then the USA would have fallen too, though a little later.
What kind of idiotic logic is that? The United States of America could have sat back and let the entirety of Europe fall, and get destroyed by the Nazis. They could have then promptly nuked Hitler into the stone age with little effort.
Freaking ingrates I'm serious. Two freaking times the USA intervened when they didn't have to. One of those times was to clean up a mess that shouldn't of happened. No one respects the sacrifices of the past anymore.
China would have been the United Empire of Japan. The U.K. probably would have been Hitlers private island getaway after he killed off all of it's people in concentration camps.
You say Americans are stupid? How exactly was the same nation able to attempt to take over Europe two times in a row, in a matter of decades? World War II should not have even happened if anyone had any sense.
"Germany is building an army."
"Oh you mean that country that tried to conquer the world a few decades ago? Bleh, lets just ignore them."
Oh great another sweeping statement about the USA. Nintendo should have known to use a different word than "fat". Should they be sued? No. I guess they could patch it if the Wii wasn't using hardware from 1998. I'm starting to think we should have let Hitler trounce you morons. Here's a broad general statement for you. You're gay and you have bad teeth. How's that feel?
Actually wii fit doesn't ever call you 'fat'. They do have 'overweight' and 'obese' when calculating BMI though.
Oh and if you did let 'Hitler trounce' us then the USA would have fallen too, though a little later.
What kind of idiotic logic is that? The United States of America could have sat back and let the entirety of Europe fall, and get destroyed by the Nazis. They could have then promptly nuked Hitler into the stone age with little effort.
Freaking ingrates I'm serious. Two freaking times the USA intervened when they didn't have to. No one respects the sacrifices of the past anymore.
China would have been the United Empire of Japan. The U.K. probably would have been Hitlers private island getaway after he killed off all of it's people in concentration camps.
You say Americans are stupid? How exactly was the same nation able to attempt to take over Europe two times in a row? WWII should not have even happened if anyone had any sense.
you're joking right? please tell me you are as you obviously have no idea about history.
the only reason america got involved in the 2nd world war was to have an excuse to have a pop at the japanese.
really guys, what are you doing putting your child on an electronic fitness programme? gonna get them a gym membership too next? what do you expect? kids should either be playing normal kids games on their wii or out and about. a load of fuss about nothing.
really guys, what are you doing putting your child on an electronic fitness programme? gonna get them a gym membership too next? what do you expect? kids should either be playing normal kids games on their wii or out and about. a load of fuss about nothing.
Well if people exercised and got off there bottoms daily. Wii fit wouldn't call them Fat or Obese... In Reality they obviously are and hate the truth!!!!
This is so pathetic, then again, is it really a surprise when we live in a world where you can't sell a cup of coffee if it doesn't say 'caution: hot' on the side of the foam cup...
you're joking right? please tell me you are as you obviously have no idea about history.
the only reason america got involved in the 2nd world war was to have an excuse to have a pop at the japanese.
The only reason? The Japanese bombed Pearl Habor. The U.S. didn't need an excuse after that. You should actually thank the Japanese for saving Europe.
And, as if the reason mattered. Was Europe saved or not?
Actually we can thank the Russian winter for that as wiping out enough of Hitler's army for the Russians to beat him in the east leading to him having depleted resources to fight the British is what began and lead to his down bringing.
I love the fact that there is no picture of the girl. Usually they show a picture to show how upset someone is when there is news. She is obviously fat "stocky" so no picture is shown lol.
This is so pathetic, then again, is it really a surprise when we live in a world where you can't sell a cup of coffee if it doesn't say 'caution: hot' on the side of the foam cup...
My favourite was a packet of peanuts that actually said "Warning: May Contain Traces Of Nuts"...
you're joking right? please tell me you are as you obviously have no idea about history.
the only reason america got involved in the 2nd world war was to have an excuse to have a pop at the japanese.
The only reason? The Japanese bombed Pearl Habor. The U.S. didn't need an excuse after that. You should actually thank the Japanese for saving Europe.
And, as if the reason mattered. Was Europe saved or not?
Actually we can thank the Russian winter for that as wiping out enough of Hitler's army for the Russians to beat him in the east leading to him having depleted resources to fight the British is what began and lead to his down bringing.
Actually resistance from the west lead to his demise, as it forced him to fight a two front war splitting up his forces. If all of his army were aimed at Russia he wouldn't of been pressed at all to attempt such a rash invasion, he tried to snuff Russia out before they could fully mobolize. It was an act of desperation.
Back to topic: The father doesn't seem to understand that just because his daughter may not look obviously fat, she still might have been a little over weight. He's just overreacting seriously.
Oh great another sweeping statement about the USA. Nintendo should have known to use a different word than "fat". Should they be sued? No. I guess they could patch it if the Wii wasn't using hardware from 1998. I'm starting to think we should have let Hitler trounce you morons. Here's a broad general statement for you. You're gay and you have bad teeth. How's that feel?
Actually wii fit doesn't ever call you 'fat'. They do have 'overweight' and 'obese' when calculating BMI though.
Oh and if you did let 'Hitler trounce' us then the USA would have fallen too, though a little later.
What kind of idiotic logic is that? The United States of America could have sat back and let the entirety of Europe fall, and get destroyed by the Nazis. They could have then promptly nuked Hitler into the stone age with little effort.
Freaking ingrates I'm serious. Two freaking times the USA intervened when they didn't have to. One of those times was to clean up a mess that shouldn't of happened. No one respects the sacrifices of the past anymore.
China would have been the United Empire of Japan. The U.K. probably would have been Hitlers private island getaway after he killed off all of it's people in concentration camps.
You say Americans are stupid? How exactly was the same nation able to attempt to take over Europe two times in a row, in a matter of decades? World War II should not have even happened if anyone had any sense.
"Germany is building an army."
"Oh you mean that country that tried to conquer the world a few decades ago? Bleh, lets just ignore them."
Jesus christ you are dumb it was something called appeasment (spelling?) anyone who knows history, knows that the UK was not ready for a war so they tied to talk and build up army at the same time. And americans have such glazed eyes when i comes to their own countries history, the war wasnt really won by the UK or the US but by Russia throwing in more and more people especailly at Stalingrad. So shut up thank you.
Oh yeah sorry rant over, back on topic this is very very stupid parents need to stop being so soft!
uhm.. the americans saved europe? lol.. i really like america.. you have all those great laws and organizations that are forbidden elsewhere.. but..
no america did not save europe.. russian winter: did.. and hitler being a fool not listening to his generals: did.. and hitler being a liar and pervert so his own country stopped fighting for him.. those were the reasons..
germany was such a small little country... laughable even.. and still they ran over europe like nothing.. but that idiot hitler wanted to fight war on every possible front..
when the gi's came to europe the germans were already a hungry, frozen, desillusionated, weak, poor, sick, bunch a hobos.. half of the fighting man just gave up when they've seen the us troops coming.. ''f00d'' must've been their first thought, when they realized the huge BMI soldiers in clean nato-green uniforms
and imagine, only a handful trained sharpshooters, and weapon-ss man on every front, still too dumb to know it's over, cost america so many young innocent man..
Someone has to agree with me, that 'horngreen' is absolutely full of s**t!!
The USA is very populated, but you still can't get a decent army together, we eould have defeated the Nazi's on our own, you Americans came in at the last minute to claim 'heroic status'. I have nothing against Americans in general but I bet 'horngreen' is a gamer score whore, who shouts abuse over internet gaming, and plays games an awful lot!!
As for the BMI, it is inaccurate, it desn't take into account fat or muscle mass. by BMI standards when Arnold Scwarznegger was muscly, he was close to dieing because his BMI was so high.
This is so pathetic, then again, is it really a surprise when we live in a world where you can't sell a cup of coffee if it doesn't say 'caution: hot' on the side of the foam cup...
My favourite was a packet of peanuts that actually said "Warning: May Contain Traces Of Nuts"...
My personal favourite was the Superman kids costume with the message along the lines of "Warning: Does Not Grant Ability To Fly"
Oh great another sweeping statement about the USA. Nintendo should have known to use a different word than "fat". Should they be sued? No. I guess they could patch it if the Wii wasn't using hardware from 1998. I'm starting to think we should have let Hitler trounce you morons. Here's a broad general statement for you. You're gay and you have bad teeth. How's that feel?
Actually wii fit doesn't ever call you 'fat'. They do have 'overweight' and 'obese' when calculating BMI though.
Oh and if you did let 'Hitler trounce' us then the USA would have fallen too, though a little later.
What kind of idiotic logic is that? The United States of America could have sat back and let the entirety of Europe fall, and get destroyed by the Nazis. They could have then promptly nuked Hitler into the stone age with little effort.
Freaking ingrates I'm serious. Two freaking times the USA intervened when they didn't have to. One of those times was to clean up a mess that shouldn't of happened. No one respects the sacrifices of the past anymore.
China would have been the United Empire of Japan. The U.K. probably would have been Hitlers private island getaway after he killed off all of it's people in concentration camps.
You say Americans are stupid? How exactly was the same nation able to attempt to take over Europe two times in a row, in a matter of decades? World War II should not have even happened if anyone had any sense.
"Germany is building an army."
"Oh you mean that country that tried to conquer the world a few decades ago? Bleh, lets just ignore them."
What 'nukes' would America use in this instance? Surely it can't be those created in the mid 1940's with the help from captured European scientists. Without British and German scientists America would have taken many many years to make nuclear weapons. In which time Hitler would have launched an invasion on America. America had to get involved not because they being nice and kind, but because if Britain fell so did her naval superiority and all Hitler would have to do is sail uncontested across the Atlantic to you guys.
I know it's hard for you as an American to believe but most of eastern Europe didn't have formidable armed forces at that time. They were desperately trying to recover from the horrors of the great war and rebuild society not the military. Not everybody wants constant war. Ask yourself this, how much has mainland USA been bombed and attacked? Then compare it to the Blitz. America hasn't been in the thick of a major war so get off your high horse.
on topic: we haven't been given this child's actual data just that 'she is apparently healthy' so for all we know she could be a bit on the tubby side and throwing a tantrum.
It's mostly people who are fat that take offence at being called fat, or those with eating disorders and given her age I'm guessing she's tubby at the very least!
Isn't moaning about the war more suited to a CoD thread instead of a thread about a fat kid?
Enough with World War 2.... every country thinks they invented the light bulb and won Dubyu Dubyu Two.
I always thought the British were a friendly bunch, but with all the American bashing that goes on here, I am beginning to wonder if you are nation of xenophobes.
Could you even point to this "nation of xenophobes" on a world map??. We Brits are a friendly bunch (for the most part anyway). We just are not all force fed propaganda that Britain is the greatest nation on the planet or have to 'pledge allegiance to the flag'. I for one am glad of the USA's involvement in that war, but Britain and France declared war on Nazi Germany after the invasion of Poland where as the US in 1939 was an isolationist society and didnt change until your shipping came under attack by U-Boats and then of course Pearl Harbour. You waited for the war to come to you.
Enough with World War 2.... every country thinks they invented the light bulb and won Dubyu Dubyu Two.
I always thought the British were a friendly bunch, but with all the American bashing that goes on here, I am beginning to wonder if you are nation of xenophobes.
Could you even point to this "nation of xenophobes" on a world map??. We Brits are a friendly bunch (for the most part anyway). We just are not all force fed propaganda that Britain is the greatest nation on the planet or have to 'pledge allegiance to the flag'. I for one am glad of the USA's involvement in that war, but Britain and France declared war on Nazi Germany after the invasion of Poland where as the US in 1939 was an isolationist society and didnt change until your shipping came under attack by U-Boats and then of course Pearl Harbour. You waited for the war to come to you.
America will not make that mistake again. First strike for the win.
Don't you guys pledge allegiance to the Queen?
If I had a kid I would not buy Wii fit for them. I would tell them to go play outside instead.
Enough with World War 2.... every country thinks they invented the light bulb and won Dubyu Dubyu Two.
I always thought the British were a friendly bunch, but with all the American bashing that goes on here, I am beginning to wonder if you are nation of xenophobes.
Could you even point to this "nation of xenophobes" on a world map??. We Brits are a friendly bunch (for the most part anyway). We just are not all force fed propaganda that Britain is the greatest nation on the planet or have to 'pledge allegiance to the flag'. I for one am glad of the USA's involvement in that war, but Britain and France declared war on Nazi Germany after the invasion of Poland where as the US in 1939 was an isolationist society and didnt change until your shipping came under attack by U-Boats and then of course Pearl Harbour. You waited for the war to come to you.
America will not make that mistake again. First strike for the win.
Theres more than one reason for war was won, for one Hitler and his mates went to war while Germany was at an economic low needing more food and such, they didn't expect to go to war as soon as they did. They were shocked Britain and France stood up to them when they did, so much for Britain just ignoring Germany.
Hitler did indeed blitzkreig through Europe but couldn't invade britain because the USA were helping Britain fend for themselves. Don't get me wrong Britain could defend britain till the cows come home, the RAF beat the Germans in the air and Britains naval defences were a little to strong for an invasion.
So Hitler turned his attention to Russia whom wern't ready for war, invaded, got half way killing a lot of jews behind the advancing lines (war is nothing more to reality than an internet forum debate don't you know...) then got pinned down during the winter. Stalingrad came and led to a terrible loss for the Germans, understandibly it was early on the Germans (or hitler) made the fatal mistake of not defending his flanks. It led to defeat after defeat... for some insane reason the Nazis believed they could conquer the 10 timezone stretching Russia in 10 weeks.
Another reason for this was the Americans and British doing some damage in Europe and Africa, knocking hitlers ally Italy out of the war and forcing Germany to stretch itself a lot.
So no, it wasn't all glory for one country (and may we note you personally did not defend the free world so you can STFU about such a thing) cheers.
Could you even point to this "nation of xenophobes" on a world map??.
You arrogant jerk. Get over yourself.
Your the one who insulted us so maybe, just maybe, you should be the one who gets over yourself.
Maybe, just maybe, you are a sarcastic jerk?
Aww is the poor baby running out of things to say so he has to resort to the jerk insult over and over again. If you dont like us then stick to your own american forums...jeez
I am not hate filled, you have never never met me so dont presume you know a damn thing about me, your the one who resorted to name calling with all that xenophobe and jerk crap
Amusing to hear so many rants on the second world war subject, also amazing how ridiculous some peoples comments sound (mostly Americans it has to be said). Firstly America was actively involved in Europe and keeping an eye on the Germans by the time the second world war came around, so I guess the Germans also 'surprised' you by amassing another huge army. Also secondly it was as much in Americas interest to get involved as anyone elses, do you think they just got involved for a laugh?! Thirdly for the guy that said they could have just sat back and nuked eveyone after....well firstly he's clearly retarded and secondly a major proportion of the developers of the first nuclear weapons were Europeans so its not as if it was all you. And besides whose to say what would of happened if America had sat out, you make it sound as if the UK was being occupied by Nazis and you came along and got rid of them all! Not quite what happened.......anyway rant over. And also for the record I quite like Americans, its just a shame that most of the ones on here at the minute are absolute tossers
However, threads like this and hate-filled people like you make me wonder if your nation is a touch anti-american/xenophobic.
Its not just Britain mate, most people (who arent American) are a touch anti-american. I personaly dont care. Im Scottish, and my wife is American. But most people I know (including quite a few spread over the world) are a bit anti-American. Its the idea that Americans are all an arrogant, self important bunch. When I was in America, everybody was great. Americans are better at expressing their emotions than us Brits, and sometimes that can come across as arrogance. Saying things like 'we won the war, Europe would have fallen without us' only feeds that stereotype though.
Im my experience of America: some of the nicest people Ive ever met.
you're joking right? please tell me you are as you obviously have no idea about history.
the only reason america got involved in the 2nd world war was to have an excuse to have a pop at the japanese.
The only reason? The Japanese bombed Pearl Habor. The U.S. didn't need an excuse after that. You should actually thank the Japanese for saving Europe.
And, as if the reason mattered. Was Europe saved or not?
so you're saying america weren't involved before pearl harbour? are you f**king stupid or something? or did you just watch pearl harbour
MAAAATT DAAAAAAAMON wannabe
Well they really weren't. Churchill kept requesting that Roosevelt step in and help, but he Roosevelt never did wage war until after Pearl Harbour.
But enough of a history lesson
Back on topic.
Mollycoddling and ignoring obsesity problems does not help matters; if people never become aware they're in an unhealthy body shape, they won't try and change it. Obsession about body image is not good either, because this society we live in is already obsessed with being skinny and the media is already telling teenagers - especially girls - from a young age that they are expected to be skinny.
With all that waffle said, I think this was blown out of proportion a little. Wii Fit does not call someone fat; it uses the terms overweight and obese. Of course, journalists were bound to pick up on it and try for an interesting angle.
Bottom line is: people should lose weight for the right reasons, and not from external pressure.
So its ok to call someone thin or skinny, but not ok to call someone fat? Your still making a derogatory comment over the way someone looks so whats the difference?
You keep proving my point about how you are a mean spirited jerk with each of your posts...
Also, I have liked all the British people I have met over the years. However, threads like this and hate-filled people like you make me wonder if your nation is a touch anti-american/xenophobic.
Dude, you can think what you like, but it was an Aemrican guy that started the whole 'we saved your ass in WW2' b******s.
"As stated in the Wii Fit manual, BMI is essentially a measure of body fat, based on an adult height and weight."
Nintendo clearly didn't bother to research this at all. BMI is a pretty blunt tool for measuring BODY WEIGHT in comparison to HEIGHT, not FOR MEASURING BODY FAT. To prove the point, I know a number of strength athletes that would be classed as 'obese' because their weightxheight ratio is, according to their BMI, out of proportion. Naturally, these athletes are not fat, but it proves the point that BMI is not neccessarily accurate. On top of that, giving children complexes about whether they are fat (along with the Wii Fit board being inaccurate) and this device sounds like a menace.
"As stated in the Wii Fit manual, BMI is essentially a measure of body fat, based on an adult height and weight."
Nintendo clearly didn't bother to research this at all. BMI is a pretty blunt tool for measuring BODY WEIGHT in comparison to HEIGHT, not FOR MEASURING BODY FAT. To prove the point, I know a number of strength athletes that would be classed as 'obese' because their weightxheight ratio is, according to their BMI, out of proportion. Naturally, these athletes are not fat, but it proves the point that BMI is not neccessarily accurate. On top of that, giving children complexes about whether they are fat (along with the Wii Fit board being inaccurate) and this device sounds like a menace.
Actually BMI was originally created to check obesity. This generally does mean fat levels and is largely regarded to mean this. And yes muscle does weigh more than fat but these athletes either won't be using this device or not be paying attention to the results since they know that they do not fit in with normal BMI calculations. And the board is actually quite accurate I can't remeber the exact tolerance levels but they are minute. Further the BMI part is such a small part of the game, these children should stop weighing themselves every 5 seconds and actually play the activities it comes with. The device is not a menace it's just a fun way to play games and should not be taken as seriously as it has been.
Why do Nintendo need to appolagise, parents should stop feeding their kids faces and feeding their egos!
Fat C**ts!
I totally agree with u mate. Nintendo shouldnt accept blame in the first place and shouldnt apologies. Parents nowadays are way over spoiling their kids.
Freaking ingrates I'm serious. Two freaking times the USA intervened when they didn't have to. One of those times was to clean up a mess that shouldn't of happened. No one respects the sacrifices of the past anymore. ... You say Americans are stupid? How exactly was the same nation able to attempt to take over Europe two times in a row, in a matter of decades? World War II should not have even happened if anyone had any sense.
They didn't "have to" - no, I'm sure the USA only invaded Europe out of humanitarian concerns, with no regard to politics or economics. Yanks just being friendly, see?
And I'm sure the US has people just as intelligent as the rest of the world, it just gives media time to that huge group of 'tards that also inhabit the country. But how very american and "Might is Right" of you to declare a country "smart" because it spends a ridiculous amount of its GNP on the military, and has to keep wars going around the globe to keep the national economy from collapsing.
I like to look at how a society treats its worst-off citizens before I judge how "smart" they are.
Actually BMI was originally created to check obesity. This generally does mean fat levels and is largely regarded to mean this.
Whilst that is true, BMI doesn't differentiate between fat and muscle - which was my original point.
As the obesity resource information centre states:
It is, however, important to remember that the BMI only gives a measure of relative weight for height and not a direct measurement of fatness.
As BMI is a technical or even medical term then Nintendo should NOT have included it. Modern day life puts too much of an emphasis on body image as it is. Yes, you could say it's just a game but that is besides the point.
The accuracy of the board is still up for debate too - MSN tests got wildly differing results with that.
I always thought the British were a friendly bunch, but with all the American bashing that goes on here, I am beginning to wonder if you are nation of xenophobes.
hiya scipio_CA,
we are not anti americans as such, but america war games we dont appreciate.
You keep proving my point about how you are a mean spirited jerk with each of your posts...
Also, I have liked all the British people I have met over the years. However, threads like this and hate-filled people like you make me wonder if your nation is a touch anti-american/xenophobic.
Dude, you can think what you like, but it was an Aemrican guy that started the whole 'we saved your ass in WW2' b******s.
I remeber on QI when, Rich I think it was, was arguing with Stephen Fry and he said you should be thanking me we saved your ass in WWII as to which Stephen Fry immediately turned to him and shouted "You never won, you were two years late!" Made me laugh anywho And Rich did chuckle too!
But anyway, I Don't understand why Nintendo have to say sorry, why be sooo shocked and horrified when a game calls you fat!? And when did people ever start listening to what a game said and then believe it?
If Nintendo have to apologise then why don't doctors have to?
The problem is that people who are fat don't like to be labled as fat. But they are. Simple matter is being overweight puts a lot of strain on the body. The heart needs to beat faster and harder, the lungs need more oxygen but can't get it, so muscles and organs deteriorate and joints have excess strain on them, making it harder and sometimes more painful to even walk.
If you aren't told you are fat and need to do something about it, then you are likely not to do anything about it. It is your own lifestyle that determines what you look like. Wii Fit is a starting point, so don't critizise it when it tells you the blunt truth about your health. It is there to help.
I was dangerously underweight 2 years ago, and it took someone to tell me that so I could do something about it. No one told my dad he was overweight and he had a heart attack. I respect what Nintendo have done with this game and I may even get it myself.
Well if it wasn't for the Ł180 price on the console and Ł70 on Wii Fit.
What kind of idiotic logic is that? The United States of America could have sat back and let the entirety of Europe fall, and get destroyed by the Nazis. They could have then promptly nuked Hitler into the stone age with little effort.
Freaking ingrates I'm serious. Two freaking times the USA intervened when they didn't have to. One of those times was to clean up a mess that shouldn't of happened. No one respects the sacrifices of the past anymore.
China would have been the United Empire of Japan. The U.K. probably would have been Hitlers private island getaway after he killed off all of it's people in concentration camps.
You say Americans are stupid? How exactly was the same nation able to attempt to take over Europe two times in a row, in a matter of decades? World War II should not have even happened if anyone had any sense.
"Germany is building an army."
"Oh you mean that country that tried to conquer the world a few decades ago? Bleh, lets just ignore them."
idiot, the atomic weapons developed in ww2 were developed by an international team including germans! it was done in fear of germany getting them first!!! if germany had won i am pretty sure they would have used them on the good old us of a.
also, america didn't save anyone, if anything it was the russians that led to victory over germany. go read some books.
back on topic, bmi = rubbish but then again it is only a game.
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This is pathetic. 
And Rich did chuckle too!
