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Ninja Gaiden II Review

Review: The Talisman of Rebirth?
By Itagaki's own admission, there's nothing more to be done with his famed third-person action series, so Ninja Gaiden II will be the last in the series. But is it a fitting end to what many consider to be one of the best action titles ever? Or does it show that the Xbox original was near-perfect (camera issues aside, but we'll come to that later) and there's nothing new to be done?

Ninja Gaiden is hailed as a purist's game that takes massive amounts of skill and patience to conquer. Its gorgeous visuals and blisteringly fast gameplay will attract any fan of video games into its world. But its extreme difficulty will quickly slam the door in the face of anyone who not willing to try really hard at upping their game.

For these reasons Ninja Gaiden is both loved and loathed in equal measure. Actually it's probably loathed a little bit more. Gaiden has never really sold on the same scale as some other action blockbusters, which is a shame. It is one of the best actions games I've ever had the pleasure to play.

Yes, I fall into the camp that loves relentless combat and bosses the size of small moons. And while the foundations of NGII's combat have been tweaked to allow gamers with less patience to participate, it's still bastard hard in parts. Well did you really think Itagaki would sell out and make a kids' kung fu game?

First to your Aid

A big complaint of the original was that health and save points were too few and far between. You'd have to plough through the most ridiculous of set-pieces before you could save or pick up more health or save. And if you died you'd have to go back and do it all again.

That formula's still in the sequel but head ninja, Ryu Hyabusa, now has the ability to heal himself of light wounds after each skirmish. Deeper wounds (the red bit on your health bar) can only be regenerated with a healing item or blue essence.

If this feature was included in NG: Black (Xbox) or Sigma (PS3) there would have been an outcry about dumbing the game down for a wider audience. It'd be like taking the swearing out of the Sopranos so kids could watch. But the game is still as frustratingly hard as ever and the enemy count has been doubled. Though oddly some of the later boss fights are a lot easier than some of the earlier ones. It's all a bit unbalanced in parts.

Save points are more abundant throughout the sequel and they'll fully heal you too, but only the first time you save, and only when you've cleared the area of any immediate threat. For those who got stuck on the horsemen in the Hyabusa Village of the original (the second level), there's hope you get a little further...

Setting the Scene

Gaiden II takes place after the Xbox game, and the only returning character is the crazy little man from the corner shop, Muramasa. Sorry folks, Rachel's got better things to do.

The story, however, still revolves around the on-going battle between the Fiends and the Dragons. Ryu must now stop the Archfiend from arising and reeking havoc across the world. If this 'Lord of all Fiends' wasn't enough to deal with, there's the Black Spider Ninja Clan that continually get in your way. Without giving away too much, the Spider and Hyabusa clans have history and even Ryu's old man features in a few cut scenes.

The game opens up on the rooftops of Tokyo's Sky City with CIA agent, Sonia, looking for Ryu. All we know about the blonde (who looks a lot like Rachel, only with Dante's haircut from Devil May Cry) is that she's investigating a top-secret Fiend case. Even though Rachel isn't in the sequel, fans of busty, S&M bondage-clad beauties won't be disappointed.

The race to stop the Archfiend takes Ryu through many environments, each as fantastical as the original. You'll be shredding bodies in cities such as Tokyo, New York and what looks like Russia one minute and then you'll be on the wings of giant aircraft (while flying, of course) before fronting some sort of mega-demon in a parallel dimension or going a Rambo in the South African jungle.

There are four greater Fiends to challenge before you get to the main event and the story has you following these nasties around the world in a totally linear fashion. Everything looks great in HD but there's not really any noticeable leap in visuals over what Sigma achieved on PS3. Part of the levels look a bit bland though. It seems that Team Ninja has spent most of its times on the blood and guts of the game.

Instead of including several testing missions in the game as an after thought like Black, you can choose to participate in 'Tests of Valor'. If you're holding the Rod of Trials (not a bloke from down the pub) you see glowing markers on the ground at various places. Jump into one of these, defeat anywhere up to 100 enemies, and you'll receive a special item (and an Achievement). The tests are usually near a save point so you can try them as many times as you want until you nail it.

Finish the fight

As previously detailed in our lengthy preview, it's not just the health system that's been tweaked to make things a little easier. Aside from the mental-to-watch Ultimate technique, there's a new finishing move called the Obliteration technique. Simply chop off an arm of leg, hit Y, and you're treated to an ultra-violent sequence that'll make mincemeat of your foe. This even works on the larger bosses too. Look out for when they fall to their knees with low health.

Obliterating allows you to systematically thin the battlefield. And if you know what you're actually doing with the weapons (learning a few combos will make life A LOT easier) you'll pick up the combat pretty easily. New weapons like the Falcon's Talons and the Eclipse Scythe are bloody deadly and the gore factor is truly impressive. Not bad considering the very first NG game on Xbox was censored in Europe. This is a game you won't want want to play after a big, meaty meal. And it'll make vegetarians and vegans sick to the stomach.

Legs, arms and heads are all fair game. Even the werewolfs will pick up their own body parts and chuck 'em at you. Nothing is sacred and the ground is often littered with bloody bits and pieces after a battle. It'll give your kids nightmares.

But all in Ninja Gaiden II suffers from the same frustrating difficult bottlenecks as the original. Just when you think you're becoming a ninja god the game will throw a few bosses at you (two at a time sometimes) that will take several attempts to beat and use all that day's patience.

Sometimes you'll despair and think you won't be able to get get any further. But you've got no option other then to keep hammering away and hope for the best. And if you're not packing enough health or the Talisman of Rebirth (which you have to equip now in order to continue once you've died) you may have to backtrack quite a bit. Use as many save slots as you can, just in case. That comes from experience.

Gameplay is plagued by the same rubbish camera of the other three games in the series. How many more attempts are needed before something is done about it? You'll often lose sight of Ryu and his opponents thanks to a camera that's incapable of focussing on its subject - especially indoors. For what's being billed as a true next-gen action game this is unacceptable. As is the occasional mid-combat loading. It's like having pause button pressed mid-fight and no one likes that.

The sequel packs the same punch as the original but it's just not different enough. We've all seen and done what NGII dishes up in the other three games of the series. There's no real evolution and after four versions of almost the same game, it's not hard to see why Itagaki has decided to hang up the nunchucks for good.

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// Overview
Verdict
A mixed bag of awesome combat, average visuals and insane difficulty. Ninja Gaiden II is everything we expected but nothing more.
Uppers
  Near-perfect combat
  Massive boss battles
  Lashings of blood and gore
Downers
  Horrible camera (still!)
  Occasional slowdown
  Mid-combat loading
  Too similar to the original
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Hyped soooo much....Although I understand the low score. If that crappy camera is still the same....its definately not AAA material. Plus the average visuals (still looks pretty) and a lack of innovation + impossible difficulty is a definate pass for me.

FLOP Razz
d-suhiti on 26 May '08
what did you expect? a completely different game?
of course there wasn't going to be any new radical changes. if it ain't broke etc etc.
i've had this ordered for about 4 weeks now and cannot wait for it to come through my door. even if i still haven't finished the first one. the only unfortunate thing about this game is the fact that MGS4 comes out the week after and anyone with both systems like myself will be torn between (hopefully) 2 execellent games. plus we'll also have to find time to finish GTA4
ensabahnur on 26 May '08
Hyped soooo much....Although I understand the low score. If that crappy camera is still the same....its definately not AAA material. Plus the average visuals (still looks pretty) and a lack of innovation + impossible difficulty is a definate pass for me.

FLOP Razz

still got a better score than haze though, didn't it?

I don't think 8.0 is necessarily a flop. Assassin's Creed didn't flop and that got lower/the same scores. I can't wait for this game personally.
bazgil on 26 May '08
Hyped soooo much....Although I understand the low score. If that crappy camera is still the same....its definately not AAA material. Plus the average visuals (still looks pretty) and a lack of innovation + impossible difficulty is a definate pass for me.

FLOP Razz

still got a better score than haze though, didn't it?

I don't think 8.0 is necessarily a flop. Assassin's Creed didn't flop and that got lower/the same scores. I can't wait for this game personally.

Well Haze is just horrible...NO ONE can deny that. and 8 is a flop....after MS Fanboys claiming that June belongs to NGII and that it will be AAA.

It didnt live up to expectations...overhyped. GTA IV will still do me for another year anyway. And to ensabahnur - No, i didnt expect a new game. What I expected was a fixed camera and atleast some new gameplay mechanics. Not just some prettier textures and more blood on screen.

Its a good game...but could have been more.
d-suhiti on 26 May '08
The art direction looks awesome though. Bosses and settings look alot better than sigma. I actually want to buy this game. I thought sigma looked a bit meh.
jonnysix on 26 May '08
Hyped soooo much....Although I understand the low score. If that crappy camera is still the same....its definately not AAA material. Plus the average visuals (still looks pretty) and a lack of innovation + impossible difficulty is a definate pass for me.

FLOP Razz

still got a better score than haze though, didn't it?

I don't think 8.0 is necessarily a flop. Assassin's Creed didn't flop and that got lower/the same scores. I can't wait for this game personally.

Well Haze is just horrible...NO ONE can deny that. and 8 is a flop....after MS Fanboys claiming that June belongs to NGII and that it will be AAA.

It didnt live up to expectations...overhyped. GTA IV will still do me for another year anyway. And to ensabahnur - No, i didnt expect a new game. What I expected was a fixed camera and atleast some new gameplay mechanics. Not just some prettier textures and more blood on screen.

Its a good game...but could have been more.
i wasn't aiming that at you. we must have posted at the same time as i thought i was going to be the first post. it was aimed at whoever was reviewing the game.
ensabahnur on 26 May '08
According to Teamxbox the slowdown and framerate issues are only in review builds, and the retail builds have sorted this problem. Cool if so.

I'm definitely not missing out on this one anyway!
Petebrolly on 26 May '08
8 a low score?! Whoever thinks that is an idiot.

Sounds brilliant. Never got into the Ninja Gaiden games before or 'awt like that. I think I might actually buy this when it comes down in price, need a game that challenges now I've completed Streets of Rage 2 on hard! Very Happy
level_up on 26 May '08
8.7 on ign.

Good score for a good game.
Definitely not game of the year material, but it should be great fun.
blagger on 26 May '08
According to Teamxbox the slowdown and framerate issues are only in review builds, and the retail builds have sorted this problem.

We reviewed off PAL, boxed retail copy. Slowdown very much still there.
CVG Gav on 26 May '08
Awwwwwww yeeeeeeeeaaaah! This is more like it! Never had an issue with the camera once I got used to the fighting system- usually just held block down if the camera was being a pain- once righted it was on with the chop-age!

Once I've purchased this only... (looks at list of games he needs) 30 or so left to go... oh dear god.
MrPirtniw on 26 May '08
I don't think anybody was expecting a AAA title but a 8.0 is still a very good score.
Johnny_5 on 26 May '08
According to Teamxbox the slowdown and framerate issues are only in review builds, and the retail builds have sorted this problem.


We reviewed off PAL, boxed retail copy. Slowdown very much still there.

Ahh, was wishful thinking anyway. Smile

Thanks for the info though!

Eurogamer said it had more slowdown in 1080p, did you guys notice it being any better in lower resolutions?
Petebrolly on 26 May '08
i don't know. what with all the "loss of face" and NG2 will blow NGS (which is "not good"Wink out of the water smack talking, i was expecting a bit more than this. hopefully more scores like this will humble Itagaki. i may opt to purchase it whenever it goes Platinum Hits or something.
atrimus on 26 May '08
To be honest I don't see how Ninja Gaiden could ever be a AAA title- it certainly is in my book, but I think the majority of the gaming world don't all have the Jedi like reflexes need to get anywhere in the game... nor the patience.

Basically it's a very niche title- more of the same is fine by me... so I'd probably bump that score up a wee bit Wink
MrPirtniw on 26 May '08
I'm a bit Ninja Gaiden'd out at the minute.
Probably pick it up when it drops to 20 quid. I don't want Itagaki to get too much of my money, what with him being an absolute nob.
theideal on 26 May '08
I'm a bit Ninja Gaiden'd out at the minute.
Probably pick it up when it drops to 20 quid. I don't want Itagaki to get too much of my money, what with him being an absolute nob.

You pay taxes don't you? Razz
Petebrolly on 26 May '08
As I said in the post when the creator got c**ky about his loyalty. Not a big leap and basically sigma with slowdown no evolution what so ever. GJ gob s**te!! Laughing
gogo65uk on 26 May '08
impossible difficulty is a definate pass for me.

FLOP Razz

I cant take you seriously if you think the difficulty of the original was impossible. Sorry not really a dig at you but NG2 was never gonna be the game for you was it?

And as for the people that say 8 is a crap score, WTF?
May i suggest you read the bit at the start of Games (sorry CVG). If 5 is average, how can 8 be crap?
And anyway play the game before you decide if it's good or not.

As you can tell I'm looking forward to it and even if it isnt a great leap from NG it doesn't matter, cant wait.

Silly Ninja Dogs
jdkoke on 26 May '08
8's a good score - good review aswell may I add. Did I read someone say IGN gave it an 8.7? I'll have to head over there and have a little read in a minute. I don't know why people are saying it's been hyped - no way has NG II been hyped as much as other games this year.

The camera didn't bother me in the slightest in NGB. I reigned it in, as it were, once I got used to it. It's good to see that the hard bottlenecks are back. Call me masochistic, but I quite liked that while playing NGB - it had me on edge not knowing that when I turned the next corner, I could have a stupidly hard fight on my hands by either 2 ninjas, or a boss the size of a bus. Plus, I thought the save points were perfectly placed in NGB.

Apart from one save point I remember, where I had to keep restarting from it - as soon as I restarted, I got 2/3 spider-clan ninjas jump at me trying to slice me up. I had to laugh, or I would have cried.

I pre-ordered this game about a month ago. All I really want is more of the same like NGB, with a few new elements thrown in. By the looks of it, that's what I've got Very Happy
ginsin on 26 May '08
impossible difficulty is a definate pass for me.

FLOP Razz

I cant take you seriously if you think the difficulty of the original was impossible. Sorry not really a dig at you but NG2 was never gonna be the game for you was it?

And as for the people that say 8 is a crap score, WTF?
May i suggest you read the bit at the start of Games (sorry CVG). If 5 is average, how can 8 be crap?
And anyway play the game before you decide if it's good or not.

As you can tell I'm looking forward to it and even if it isnt a great leap from NG it doesn't matter, cant wait.

Silly Ninja Dogs

um, thats just the thing. who said 5 was average? who even said that average meant "good"? just because 5 is the midway point between 0 and 10 doesn't make it an average in a scoring system. to me average means passable, and for $60 a game has to be more than just passable for me to invest. i personally would never buy a game that scored 5 or 6 unless i tried it out for myself first and liked it. 7 is generally considered average on any site, while 8 to 8.9 is above-average to good. AAA games are the ones that usually score 9 or above. in any case i don't always go by review scores. review scores can be just as jaded and biased as most fanboy posters, plus there are too many variables (like the possibility of under-the-table money exchanging) to consider. as it stands NG2 wasn't really one of the 360 games i was drooling for.
atrimus on 26 May '08
Hehe, dont take this personally but that is the stupidest thing I have heard in my life. On a scale of 1 to 10, 5 is average, simple as. Not because i said it or anyone else it just is! I dont think anyone said 5 is good either to be fair, your away on your own little track here. 5 is an average game, nothing special, doesnt do anything new, may appeal to some people, may not.

I dont go by review scores either but since that is what people are bitching about i just had to mention it.
jdkoke on 26 May '08
sounds pretty much like everything I expected it to be- more of the same, with the same issues as the first time but some new goryness to add to it. In any event, I'll probably pick it up, since I loved the first game (even though I never did manage to beat the final boss) and just played the demo of Sigma to remind me how much fun it was.

I don't think it'll be a major system seller or anything- it was never going to be, after all- but it'll appeal to the fans at least.
berelain on 26 May '08


um, thats just the thing. who said 5 was average? who even said that average meant "good"? just because 5 is the midway point between 0 and 10 doesn't make it an average in a scoring system. to me average means passable, and for $60 a game has to be more than just passable for me to invest. i personally would never buy a game that scored 5 or 6 unless i tried it out for myself first and liked it. 7 is generally considered average on any site, while 8 to 8.9 is above-average to good. AAA games are the ones that usually score 9 or above. in any case i don't always go by review scores. review scores can be just as jaded and biased as most fanboy posters, plus there are too many variables (like the possibility of under-the-table money exchanging) to consider. as it stands NG2 wasn't really one of the 360 games i was drooling for.
I totally agree with you mate, 5 is in no way average when it comes to review scores. I will generally avoid any game that marks below a 7 as i reckon that is below average.
coldroses on 26 May '08
8 is a good score. I have pre-ordered and am quite able to make up my own mind. Everyone is able to reach their own opinion. Why invest so much in someone elses? Rolling Eyes
grf741 on 26 May '08
Hehe, dont take this personally but that is the stupidest thing I have heard in my life. On a scale of 1 to 10, 5 is average, simple as. Not because i said it or anyone else it just is! I dont think anyone said 5 is good either to be fair, your away on your own little track here. 5 is an average game, nothing special, doesnt do anything new, may appeal to some people, may not.

I dont go by review scores either but since that is what people are bitching about i just had to mention it.

It depends on your expectations. If you don't mind playing games that are half crap and half good, then 5 will be your average. If you like games that a more good than bad 7 will be your average.

5 is just an average of the two numbers, it doesn't add up to an average game. And either way, you'll learn more abotu the game, and whether you will like it by reading the words, not lookign solely at the score.
NG_21 on 26 May '08
8 is a good score.

Still ,its not visual leap over NGS and the gameplay is tweaked somewhat but not considerably superior.And I would say the NGS plot is better that this one,and the backdrops had more work in them.

All in all ,NGII isnt superior or very slighty to NGS...so much for Itagaki and all his boasting and bullying his "subordinate" for NGS.
Diomedes1977 on 26 May '08
NG2 is mega flop

x360 dies on June 12th 2008

Level (sedish magazine ) also gave MGS4 10/10

they termed it as the best game till date in 2008

poor XBOTS ..you have nothing to play this year

while we play MGS4 and Resistance 2 with 60 players online
nasim on 26 May '08
NG2 is mega flop

x360 dies on June 12th 2008

Level (sedish magazine ) also gave MGS4 10/10

they termed it as the best game till date in 2008

poor XBOTS ..you have nothing to play this year

while we play MGS4 and Resistance 2 with 60 players online

You poor deluded fool.
ginsin on 26 May '08
I'm sure other sites will appreciate this game more and give it a higher score which it most likley deserves.
Some sites slated the original, even though it was the best in the genre, simply because it was too hard for them... Rolling Eyes
However, like someone stated, this series was never AAA material. It was never going to shift systems but is instead something hardcore gamers appreciate.

@ nasim
What a fool you've made of yourself while also making any PS3 owners look bad. I'm looking forward to MGS4 more than this but apart from maybe LBP, PS3 has nothing else to deliver this year.
Resistance 2? Are you really that deprived of games?
vulcanraven01 on 26 May '08
8 is decent, deal with it.

I haven't played NG before but this does look awesome and if it ends up being as good as it looks I might consider getting hold of the other 2 (got NG on DS but haven't gotten around to playing it yet).

I know CVG and some other people said NG was incredibly hard and this probably will be, but so what? People have always been complaining about how games are getting too easy these days (which they are!) so at least occasionaly having stupidly dificult game once in awhile can't possibily hurt even if it is repetitve. I'm sure any hardcore NES fans can back me up on this one, and if anything even NG/NG2 could still be considered easier when compared as they have save points Wink

(I know there's things like XBLA but I'm sure we all want new games as well instead of just old re-makes Razz )
dark_gamer on 26 May '08
NG2 is mega flop

x360 dies on June 12th 2008

Level (sedish magazine ) also gave MGS4 10/10

they termed it as the best game till date in 2008

poor XBOTS ..you have nothing to play this year

while we play MGS4 and Resistance 2 with 60 players online

You poor deluded fool.

Not only deluded, but if he's basing his hopes on resistance 2 being the saviour of the ps3 this year(and let's be honest it needs some good titles), he's completely off his rocker.
Resistance 1 was so average it's unbelievable.

MGS could be good though.
We all know Gears of war 2 is gonna be the game of the year Very Happy
On exclusives alone, the 360 has already won 2008.
Which disappoints me in a way as i own both consoles.
I was expecting big things from sony this year, but it's been a bit of a disaster games wise.
blagger on 27 May '08
I could never get used to the camera in NGB so I think i'll probably give this one a miss. Would like to give it a go though
mfnick on 27 May '08
NG2 is mega flop

x360 dies on June 12th 2008

Level (sedish magazine ) also gave MGS4 10/10

they termed it as the best game till date in 2008

poor XBOTS ..you have nothing to play this year

while we play MGS4 and Resistance 2 with 60 players online

Im not going to post anything in reply to your idiotic comment, I am merely highlighting the nonsense that you continually post.
StonecoldMC on 27 May '08
I could never get used to the camera in NGB so I think i'll probably give this one a miss. Would like to give it a go though

Nick, now, don't be silly. I know I helped, along with other people, to get you to buy Burnout Paradise - but you should really give Ninja Gaiden game a chance. You'll be missing out on one of the best action games... ever!

Get NG II, you won't be sorry. Even though I haven't played it yet... but NGB was just too damn good!
ginsin on 27 May '08
NG2 is mega flop

x360 dies on June 12th 2008

Level (sedish magazine ) also gave MGS4 10/10

they termed it as the best game till date in 2008

poor XBOTS ..you have nothing to play this year

while we play MGS4 and Resistance 2 with 60 players online
can nobody please respond to this idiot so he can f**k off and grow up.
thanks, much appreciated. Very Happy
ensabahnur on 27 May '08
I could never get used to the camera in NGB so I think i'll probably give this one a miss. Would like to give it a go though

Nick, now, don't be silly. I know I helped, along with other people, to get you to buy Burnout Paradise - but you should really give Ninja Gaiden game a chance. You'll be missing out on one of the best action games... ever!

Get NG II, you won't be sorry. Even though I haven't played it yet... but NGB was just too damn good!

I want it, & I could see the quality in NGB. But I honestly cant get used to the camera. It frustrated me so much, I felt I was spending more time trying to get a decent view than I was fighting the enemies.

& that horse back mini boss p**sed me off immensely. He was only on screen for a second, im sure I only beat him from luck, I just got p**sed off & started slashing everywhere & he died even though I actualy only saw him on screen twice throughout the whole battle.

I tried to get used to it but decided the frustration wasnt worth it.
mfnick on 27 May '08
I could never get used to the camera in NGB so I think i'll probably give this one a miss. Would like to give it a go though

Nick, now, don't be silly. I know I helped, along with other people, to get you to buy Burnout Paradise - but you should really give Ninja Gaiden game a chance. You'll be missing out on one of the best action games... ever!

Get NG II, you won't be sorry. Even though I haven't played it yet... but NGB was just too damn good!

I want it, & I could see the quality in NGB. But I honestly cant get used to the camera. It frustrated me so much, I felt I was spending more time trying to get a decent view than I was fighting the enemies.

& that horse back mini boss p**sed me off immensely. He was only on screen for a second, im sure I only beat him from luck, I just got p**sed off & started slashing everywhere & he died even though I actualy only saw him on screen twice throughout the whole battle.

I tried to get used to it but decided the frustration wasnt worth it.

Ahh, yeah for some reason the first 2 or 3 bosses in NGB were some of the hardest in the game Shocked Do you mean the demon bloke who was on his horse on the bridge? The camera for that boss is abit squiffy, as he always seems to be behind you - I know what you mean with him. The game definitely wasn't helpful to beginners with that boss, especially if you were still getting used to the camera.

To be fair, most bosses in the game after that the camera is fine and centers/locks onto the boss you're fighting.

I've read there's more open spaces in NG II, to minimize the camera problems. Maybe rent it? I personally can't wait - I've pre-ordered from HMV, as again they're giving away free 1000MS points Very Happy
ginsin on 27 May '08
I didnt have a problem with that first boss actualy. The camera seemed fine then & I beat him on my second attempt. & the third boss on the Airship wasnt a problem either. But that horseback one was a huge one.

But the camera p**ses me off more with the general enemies. Like I say I hate fighting off-screen & thats what it seemed like i was doing 90% of the time. Id had enough of it on the 4th level & gave up
mfnick on 27 May '08
CVG, you need to hire journos who can construct sentences. Some of that was literally unreadable. Pay someone from the forums to proof read or something, it's just plain embarrassing.

Anyway, to the point at hand. I was a little worried about the sequel. It just seemed so quick, it was announced and then it's released. Unlike all the other fans of the originals on here I actually wanted something different. From the couple of reviews I've read it looks like they've stripped it of many platforming elements which made NG unique to the competition. It just seems to me that they've just added a heck of a lot of blood and guts to make up for any progress. I expect the back of the box will read exactly like the back of the dvd case for AVP2.

Ninja Gaiden wasn't particularly hard anyway, once you work out how to play it properly, there are only a few times in the game where you'll get frustrated.

I'll probably still buy it, because it's still sure to play well, but come on this is 'next gen' It should be adding something more.
ledickolas on 27 May '08
I didnt have a problem with that first boss actualy. The camera seemed fine then & I beat him on my second attempt. & the third boss on the Airship wasnt a problem either. But that horseback one was a huge one.

But the camera p**ses me off more with the general enemies. Like I say I hate fighting off-screen & thats what it seemed like i was doing 90% of the time. Id had enough of it on the 4th level & gave up

The second boss I thought was easier than the first. Sure the camera didn't help, but all you had to do was keep rolling, and use the ultimate technique a few times from the orbs of the teleporting fatboys.
ledickolas on 27 May '08
NG2 is mega flop

x360 dies on June 12th 2008

Level (sedish magazine ) also gave MGS4 10/10

they termed it as the best game till date in 2008

poor XBOTS ..you have nothing to play this year

while we play MGS4 and Resistance 2 with 60 players online

Do the human race a favour and eat your fingers so we don't have to bear witness to your inane musings.

You sir are a prat of the highest order.
ledickolas on 27 May '08
NG2 is mega flop

x360 dies on June 12th 2008

Level (sedish magazine ) also gave MGS4 10/10

they termed it as the best game till date in 2008

poor XBOTS ..you have nothing to play this year

while we play MGS4 and Resistance 2 with 60 players online

Do the human race a favour and eat your fingers so we don't have to bear witness to your inane musings.

You sir are a prat of the highest order.

He might then have no fingers, but at least he could still watch the 90minute cutscenes in MGS4. Razz

I jest I jest!
Petebrolly on 27 May '08
But then at least he wouldn't be able to tell us about it in his unique brand of English.
ledickolas on 27 May '08
NG2 is mega flop

x360 dies on June 12th 2008

Level (sedish magazine ) also gave MGS4 10/10

they termed it as the best game till date in 2008

poor XBOTS ..you have nothing to play this year

while we play MGS4 and Resistance 2 with 60 players online

Urch... whenever I see a CVG article linked on N4G.com I think idiots from that site will follow the link, and pollute this one too. Now it has begun.

To whoever mentioned Itagaki having to eat his words with these review scores; wont happen. Just look up his reaction to DoAX2's scores, he wasn't phased at all Laughing
Asaron on 27 May '08
I so far have beaten the past Ninja Gaiden's on even there hardest difficulty. I only hope that this will will not only have everything that the past ones missed but a harder master ninja. Unlike most wish to be gamers i enjoy a game not just by the story and the actions in it. But the difficulty of it all.
muslims on 27 May '08
Sounds like everything i thought it would be, a solid, gory ninja slice-em-up, if i had a 360 i would so be picking this up...
MrClaws on 27 May '08
impossible difficulty is a definate pass for me.

FLOP Razz

I cant take you seriously if you think the difficulty of the original was impossible. Sorry not really a dig at you but NG2 was never gonna be the game for you was it?

And as for the people that say 8 is a crap score, WTF?
May i suggest you read the bit at the start of Games (sorry CVG). If 5 is average, how can 8 be crap?
And anyway play the game before you decide if it's good or not.

As you can tell I'm looking forward to it and even if it isnt a great leap from NG it doesn't matter, cant wait.

Silly Ninja Dogs

The problem is, to many people and reviewers alike see 5/10 as the new 0.

In terms of reviews, 5/10 across the board is a death sentence for any game. Especially if it's an unknown. Confused

Oh and in the original, on the maximum difficulty could anyone beat the floaty demon boss that kept firing pillars at you in the church...even though there was only the 4 and she just magically created more?

I just couldn't do it, and I fought the final boss fight on God of War (the bit where you have to face hundreds of kratos') on the hardest difficulty (the one you get after beating the game once) for hours constantly till I finally got it. That floaty demon in NG is the only boss to ever get me to stop playing a game.


Edit: For NG, I'm talking about the very hard difficulty that can only be selected by completing the game once.
SuperCinos on 27 May '08
i dont understand how people are on here dissing ng2 sayin more of the same and graphics arent great etc.. when dmc4 was dmc3 in new graphics? and was more of the same if not more repetetive than any other dmc game, yet dmc seemed to bring in 8-9?
yet ng2 gets 8 out of 10 yet ppl are complaining?
LeonKILLER7 on 27 May '08
8.0 is respectable but tbh i got ninja gaiden sigma and just didnt understand all hype around this franchise, god of war anyday
dirtydt on 28 May '08
tbh i got ninja gaiden sigma and just didnt understand all hype around this franchise, god of war anyday

That could have been because you were playing a 3 year old game at that point. You had to really have played the original when it was first released on Xbox to understand how it perfected the genre (bar the camera).
vulcanraven01 on 28 May '08
I havn't played the game yet(I hope to get my mits on it next Wenesday/Thursday), but to say it brings nothing new to the table is a little silly Cvg. If it ain't broke don't fix it. It may not be radically different, but if it was it would fail to be a sequel in the first place. I bet its every bit as good as the original, who cares if it isn't innovative enougth?
sonic_uk on 28 May '08
8.0 is respectable but tbh i got ninja gaiden sigma and just didnt understand all hype around this franchise, god of war anyday

Think yourself lucky you had the easy version sonny Jim try it on the xbox, god of war was good but doesn't come close to Ninja Gaiden.
Skinbackking on 1 Jun '08
This game is okay but its too hard I played it on easy and by level 7 I wanted to throw the pad though the screen Ryu Hayabusa is way to slow the camara is the worst I have had to use.
steve w on 13 Aug '08
This game is okay but its too hard I played it on easy and by level 7 I wanted to throw the pad though the screen Ryu Hayabusa is way to slow the camara is the worst I have had to use.
steve w on 13 Aug '08
This game is okay but its too hard I played it on easy and by level 7 I wanted to throw the pad though the screen Ryu Hayabusa is way to slow the camara is the worst I have had to use.
steve w on 13 Aug '08
This game is okay but its too hard I played it on easy and by level 7 I wanted to throw the pad though the screen Ryu Hayabusa is way to slow the camara is the worst I have had to use.
steve w on 13 Aug '08
This game is okay but its too hard I played it on easy and by level 7 I wanted to throw the pad though the screen Ryu Hayabusa is way to slow the camara is the worst I have had to use.
steve w on 13 Aug '08
This game is okay but its too hard I played it on easy and by level 7 I wanted to throw the pad though the screen Ryu Hayabusa is way to slow the camara is the worst I have had to use.
steve w on 13 Aug '08
This game is okay but its too hard I played it on easy and by level 7 I wanted to throw the pad though the screen Ryu Hayabusa is way to slow the camara is the worst I have had to use.
steve w on 13 Aug '08
This game is okay but its too hard I played it on easy and by level 7 I wanted to throw the pad though the screen Ryu Hayabusa is way to slow the camara is the worst I have had to use.
steve w on 13 Aug '08
This game is okay but its too hard I played it on easy and by level 7 I wanted to throw the pad though the screen Ryu Hayabusa is way to slow the camara is the worst I have had to use. PLUS WHY IS THE WEBSITE SO BLOODY SLOW ITS TAKING ABOUT 5 TIMES TO TRY AND POST THIS MESSAGE.
steve w on 13 Aug '08
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