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Guitar Hero fans are 'untalented pretenders', says singer

American singer John Mayer attacks GH because its "nothing like playing a real guitar." Isn't that the point?
American singer John Mayer has criticised Activision's Guitar Hero, because "it makes it easy for untalented people to pretend they are good at playing the instrument", says Rolling Stone (via site Entertainment Wise).

The singer-song writer (who to be fair we've never heard of - apparently he goes out with Jenifer Aniston) claims that no game could ever match the enjoyment of playing a real guitar. You know it's a game, yeah John?

"Guitar Hero was devised to bring the guitar-playing experience to the masses without them having to put anything into it," he said.

"And having done both, there's nothing like really playing guitar. I mean, what would you rather drive, a Ferrari or one of those amusement-park cars on a track?"

Some of us can't afford Ferraris though, Johnny boy.

The next instalment in the pretender music series, World Tour adds drums and custom songs into the mix. Read about it here.

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What a loser.
Goona on 6 Jun '08
What a dumb thing to say. Shock news - 5 buttons are not the same as 24 frets and 6 strings.

Hey John, I'm a real musician and I can't handle only having those 5 buttons available so I suck at Guitar Hero. Can I have a Ferrari now please?
Dajmin on 6 Jun '08
Real guitar - challenging, expensive, incredibly difficult, takes years to ever play a track like 'Schools out', never mind 'Dragonforce' etc

Guitar Hero - A bit of fun, can play any track competently after a day, ultimately less rewarding but instantly gratifying.

Whys it such a problem? Its not like someone who wants to learn Guitar wouldnt because of the game. Let us who would never be able to play one, enjoy it. None of us think we will ever become real muscicians from it.
mfnick on 6 Jun '08
In other news:

Lewis Hamilton has declared all fans of Gran Turismo satan-worshipping whores.

Nigella Lawson says she wants to get every single person who owns Cooking Mama and "close a George Forman grill on their stupid fat untalented hands"

Ross Kemp (Eastenders, Ross Kemp in Afghanistan) slammed all Halo 3 fans as "inexperienced idiots who know nothing about the true horrors of intergalactic war".
The_Johnson on 6 Jun '08
untalented pretenders ay? at least us gamers realise we're untalented pretenders, we don't need this jerk to tell us what we already know. Guitar Hero was invented for people who never seemed to be able to pick up playing a real guitar. Guitars are something that take a long time to get any good at, whilst Guitar Hero is fun straight away, no tuning, no fiddling about trying to find the right notes to play your favourite song, no broken strings... the only thing missing is being able to make your own songs, and that's being put into GH4.

taking cheap shots at Guitar Hero not being like playing a real Guitar is like having a go at Skate because it's not exactly like skateboarding - i skate in real life and I can see how Skate would be extremely fun for those who don't skate or don't have the time or patience to learn. It's a fun and easy alternative for those with an interest in the activity, exactly like Guitar Hero. I think this guy just has a rat up his bottom because his guitar playing hasn't been deemed worthy enough to be featured in Guitar Hero yet.
adetheterrible on 6 Jun '08
He's just p**sed because he cant play it as well as he thinks he can.

k**bber.
Higgadonis on 6 Jun '08
What a dumb thing to say. Shock news - 5 buttons are not the same as 24 frets and 6 strings.

Hey John, I'm a real musician and I can't handle only having those 5 buttons available so I suck at Guitar Hero. Can I have a Ferrari now please?

John Mayer is a self-centred snotbag....his music sucks too.

I think it's about time that people realised that people who play GH don't really want to learn to play guitar. I've been playing for years, but I can tell the difference between my Strat and my plastic wireless Les Paul.

It confuses me why people think that anyone that gets some enjoyment from GH harbours some secret desire to be some virtuoso shredder - they don't, but I'm sure that there are a few that have picked up the instrument as a result of GH (which can only be a good thing).

What next? - is Kanye West and Jay-Z going to call every person that bought Parappa the Rapper a bunch of pretenders?

Rolling Eyes
ParmaViolet on 6 Jun '08
Marios not like real plumbing either! It's just for no-hopers that will never be any good at plumbing.

I mean would you rather be fixing a leaking tap or playing Mario Galaxy...... oh hang on.....
leefear1 on 6 Jun '08
What a snooker cue! He's right, of course but still. He's a snooker cue!
wudragon on 6 Jun '08
I appreciate what he MEANS, but the way he said it makes him sound like a total c**k.

But playing Guitar Hero to an audience of either friends IRL or a massive audience on-screen is the closest a lot of people will get to being actual musicians.
And there's nothing wrong with that. Plenty of people WANT to play instruments but never get good enough to actually perform.

Sounds to me like he's just trying to be controversial since it's becomes such a phenomenon. Maybe he thinks he should have some DLC or maybe he wants to generate some records sales.

Musicians who spend more time mouthing off than performing live are clearly compensating for being untalented pretenders.
Dajmin on 6 Jun '08
I'm a grade 8 drummer and my brother's a grade 8 guitarist, and we get heaps of fun from Guitar Hero...
Hypercane94 on 6 Jun '08
He's just p**sed because he cant play it as well as he thinks he can.

k**bber.

priceless Laughing
ingy on 6 Jun '08
I'm a musician too.. and GH as far as i can see it (i've never played it) is just like kareoke?.. I wouldnt put it down though, as fair play, playing on stage with a real guitar in front of people is an amazing feeling.. but for a laugh i bet GH is a lot of fun.
Xdwardo on 6 Jun '08
To be fair he has a point.

Shouldnt the guitar replicate a guitar better?

Otherwise why is it called guitar hero, if its nothinglike playing the guitar?

Its like playing a playstation football game, which is nothing like football at all. POINTLESS.
50L1D_5NaK3 on 6 Jun '08
f**k sake, talk about missing the point.
JimSteele on 6 Jun '08
What does he mean? Is he saying I'm talentless? What a nasty thing to say.

You know what I think? He's nothing more than a big bully! *sniffle*
csdaveuk on 6 Jun '08
i play the guitar...and i like to think i play pretty well.
but i love guitar hero lol and so do many of my friends who all play guitar to a very high lvl.
ROCK ON!
nologo on 6 Jun '08
Isn't that the whole idea of the game?

Being able to play a guitar isn't the defining factor of being talented, what if I'm a brilliant artist and I play Guitar Hero, am I talentless then?

I play it for fun, not to learn guitar.
fleeties on 6 Jun '08
Another case of being taken out of context

All he's saying is that playing guitar hero and playing the guitar are two separate things...i doubt he just blurted it out, but gave it as a response to a question about how the game may affect future guitarists.

Of course he could also be moaning about the fact that Jen regularly gets a better high score than he does, but when you can play a real guitar as well as he can...I'd think that wouldn't really matter.

If he was complaining about MGS4's cutscene lengths however...that would be a different matter Very Happy
jazzy_p on 6 Jun '08
In other news:

Lewis Hamilton has declared all fans of Gran Turismo satan-worshipping whores.

Nigella Lawson says she wants to get every single person who owns Cooking Mama and "close a George Forman grill on their stupid fat untalented hands"

Ross Kemp (Eastenders, Ross Kemp in Afghanistan) slammed all Halo 3 fans as "inexperienced idiots who know nothing about the true horrors of intergalactic war".

Haha. That's great!
funkymonkey18 on 6 Jun '08
Meh, I see Guitar Hero as basically a step up from playing air guitar along to your stereo - you know, just having fun with music... No, it's not making music 'properly', but I don't think anyone's ever claimed otherwise. Maybe it might even encourage a few people to take up the guitar 'properly', who knows?
cjw101 on 6 Jun '08
Playing guitar is hardly a talent anyway. It's simply a skill you learn from hours and hours of practising. ANYONE can learn how to play guitar to some degree.

Considering this lad here is fairly unknown in the guitar playing field, and doesn't sit at the heights of TRUE guitar talent such as Malmsteen, Gilbert, Vai, Becker, Friedman etc, i'd say he's quite a hypocrite for calling people talentless.

I can play any amounts of technical death metal such as Necrophagist/White Chapel, as well as neo-classical guitar rapings from Cacophony and Malmsteen (none of which required anything other than practice), but when I want to have some fun, I don't go and plug my stack in, unpack my guitar, set up my pedal board, tune my guitar, and fiddle with the amp settings to get a good sound - I just turn my Xbox on and play Guitar Hero or Rock Band with people locally/online.
citizenerasedx on 6 Jun '08
I think the South Park episode summed it up best. If you treat it as a game, cool. However, if you start to think you really are a talented badass with mad skillz:

YOU

ARE

FAGS!
Mogs on 6 Jun '08
Dick 'ead! Who is he again? I've never heard of him.

Max Mosley said a similar thing about Lesuire Suit Larry...
p_nut_uk on 6 Jun '08
Playing guitar is hardly a talent anyway. It's simply a skill you learn from hours and hours of practising. ANYONE can learn how to play guitar to some degree.

Considering this lad here is fairly unknown in the guitar playing field, and doesn't sit at the heights of TRUE guitar talent such as Malmsteen, Gilbert, Vai, Becker, Friedman etc, i'd say he's quite a hypocrite for calling people talentless.

I can play any amounts of technical death metal such as Necrophagist/White Chapel, as well as neo-classical guitar rapings from Cacophony and Malmsteen (none of which required anything other than practice), but when I want to have some fun, I don't go and plug my stack in, unpack my guitar, set up my pedal board, tune my guitar, and fiddle with the amp settings to get a good sound - I just turn my Xbox on and play Guitar Hero or Rock Band with people locally/online.

Fellow metaller \m/

Thats the thing I know TONNES of bands (mine included) that rock out and enjoy guitar hero!

Cant wait til someone I know saves up enough money for Rock Band. Seriously, a crate of beer, takeaway and an xbox hooked up with guitar hero etc is one of the best ways to pass time with friends.

p.s. is totally obvious he once gave it a go round a friend's totally sucked and sulked off back on the sofa whilst his mates all hi fived and drunk beer!
RobW on 6 Jun '08
for the post who claimed Yngwie, Vai, Becker and so on are greats... clearly not a fan of music, just technical exercises played at 250bpm. dont get me wrong there technique is almost flawless but the ability to write good stuff at a reasonable pace lacks. As for John Mayer, probably one of the most gifted guitarists and vocalists of his generation! His comments are almost right, when you play Rockband on expert with the drums its way closer to playing the thing than the guitar counterpart is. but then it is only a game, and you have to consider how hard you make it before it stops being fun. After all its basically a party game! ease up a bit Mayer!
Stanty on 6 Jun '08
I think it does need to be said that, even though Mayer's comment was very daft, he is actually quite a famous and well respected artist within his genre. It would seem that most people on this forum are into metal (myself not included), so it's no surprise that you guys aren't really aware of him. But anybody who's heard his solo on Fall Out Boy's cover of Beat It would know that the guy sure can play guitar.
funkymonkey18 on 6 Jun '08
What a k**b! Bet the only reason hes saying that is cos he can't do it. I don't think anyone believes that there good at guitar, just because there good at guitar hero. Just like people don't think there good at rally driving, because there good at it on a video game.
CrippledHooba on 6 Jun '08
Real guitar - challenging, expensive, incredibly difficult, takes years to ever play a track like 'Schools out', never mind 'Dragonforce' etc

Guitar Hero - A bit of fun, can play any track competently after a day, ultimately less rewarding but instantly gratifying.

Whys it such a problem? Its not like someone who wants to learn Guitar wouldnt because of the game. Let us who would never be able to play one, enjoy it. None of us think we will ever become real muscicians from it.

Exactly. If people wanted to play real guitar, they would play real guitar - Guitar hero isn't meant to simulate that, it's just a laugh.
level_up on 6 Jun '08
Maybe he is sour because Jen isnt so headline worthy anymore so he needs to get his name/face out there another way.
lonewolf2002 on 6 Jun '08
Idiot...it's a bit of fun.He can play guitar well, ask him to chat to me about Law and we can see if he has any brains.
almanac2015 on 6 Jun '08
Guitar Hero can get people interested in playing guitar so whats his point? As for John Mayer I only heard of him cos I was reading my girlfriends ok magazine so that say's it all about his music. His head is slowly going up his own bottom
the monk 21 on 6 Jun '08
The bit about the Ferrari just show's how out of touch he is mentally. Can someone say who he is?
p_nut_uk on 6 Jun '08
He's right you know. I have some friends who think that they are rock gods because they can do well on GH3. Real musicians must be having a right good laugh at these types of people LOL
evilfoxhound on 6 Jun '08
Playing guitar is hardly a talent anyway. It's simply a skill you learn from hours and hours of practising. ANYONE can learn how to play guitar to some degree.

Considering this lad here is fairly unknown in the guitar playing field, and doesn't sit at the heights of TRUE guitar talent such as Malmsteen, Gilbert, Vai, Becker, Friedman etc, i'd say he's quite a hypocrite for calling people talentless.


That's contradictory. "Playing Guitar isnt a talent" "True Guitar Talent".

And you say that playing guitar isn't a talent as it's learned by playing for hours and hours . Should something like guitar where you have to work hard for it and practice be less applauded than some talent you are born with and haven't had to work for?
NG_21 on 6 Jun '08
it's a game u c**kface!!
ps3fan on 6 Jun '08
After reading the article I decided to goto Youtube to see if I could find any vids of this John Meyer person. And after careful consideration I can safely say that

John Meyer is nothing like a real singer.

I wouldn't be at all surpised is Mr. Meyer bought GH thinking "Hey I can play guitar so this will be easy!" and then found that he couldn't play it past medium level, so he thought he'd slag it off some.
peteuplink on 6 Jun '08
John Mayer isn't a real singer??
Look, i like Seasons in the abyss as much as the next bloke, but despite his daft statements on games he is an incredibly talented musician...to say otherwise is just a bit narrow minded. Even the guitarist whose a teacher in Slipknot gives him respect. His version of Lenny is great....
jazzy_p on 6 Jun '08
Real guitar - challenging, expensive, incredibly difficult, takes years to ever play a track like 'Schools out', never mind 'Dragonforce' etc

Guitar Hero - A bit of fun, can play any track competently after a day, ultimately less rewarding but instantly gratifying.

Whys it such a problem? Its not like someone who wants to learn Guitar wouldnt because of the game. Let us who would never be able to play one, enjoy it. None of us think we will ever become real muscicians from it.

Maybe you should try picking up a real guitar, you'd be surprised how easy some of these songs are to play on a real guitar compared to the GH controller.
WiiFuelee on 6 Jun '08
Real guitar - challenging, expensive, incredibly difficult, takes years to ever play a track like 'Schools out', never mind 'Dragonforce' etc

Guitar Hero - A bit of fun, can play any track competently after a day, ultimately less rewarding but instantly gratifying.

Whys it such a problem? Its not like someone who wants to learn Guitar wouldnt because of the game. Let us who would never be able to play one, enjoy it. None of us think we will ever become real muscicians from it.

Maybe you should try picking up a real guitar, you'd be surprised how easy some of these songs are to play on a real guitar compared to the GH controller.

Thats so true, you'd be surprised by how quick you could master basic chords in the first position , then a whole world of quality music is yours to play, Beatles to modern.
I was lucky enough to be learning my craft in the mid late eighties when the big metal guys were Van Halen, lynch, De Martini etc..those were the days. Dragonforce just seem like souless machines to me. Learn some basic chords and get stuck in with the beatles and stuff like that. Its a great thing to do.

btw - own and love GH3. And I checked out the guys website and he seems a great player. What we havent seen is how the question was asked of him. As usual, we are given a one sided coin purely to spark a reaction
doomthree on 6 Jun '08
Yup, just like playing CoD4 doesn't turn you into a soldier, and playing Manhunt doesn't make you a psychopath.

If only the Daily Mail would read this...
_Marty_ on 6 Jun '08
I somewhat agree - and the reason - k**bheads online --

I play gh for fun im rubbish at guitar and my electric in my room is somewhat of a piece of furniture as i cant play it well

What p**ses me off is people online who are freaks - they play it like 12 hours a day and then when i go online for a bit of fun on hard mode the idiot picks through the fire and flames - obviously i couldnt last more than 20 seconds as its terribly hard and then after losing the face off i get a message through saying

HAH YOU NOOBISH c**t

Guitar hero is a game - it noway reflects being able to play a guitar and being good at gh isnt a comparison to anything except rock band

I truly admire people who can play any instrument but some of us (me) are 100% untalented in music
I cannot sing and i cannot play anything besides having numerous lessons in violin - harmonica - recorder-guitar and electric

So let us pretend it gives us some self worth and think hey someday ill buy a guitar and have a go



I write little screenplays - make little videos because i dream of working in the movies - should i stop because its not the real thing - no because its there to inspire me and give us novices chance

I mean come on as John Mayer writes in his songs
"
belief is a beautiful armor
but makes for the heaviest sword
like punching underwater
you never can hit who you're trying for
some lead the exhibition
and some have to know they tried
it's the chemical weapon
for the war that's raging on inside
oh, everyone believes
from emptiness to everything
oh, everyone believes
and no one's going quietly "
dandoc2 on 6 Jun '08
John Mayer isn't a real singer??
Look, i like Seasons in the abyss as much as the next bloke, but despite his daft statements on games he is an incredibly talented musician...to say otherwise is just a bit narrow minded. Even the guitarist whose a teacher in Slipknot gives him respect. His version of Lenny is great....

Well being a singer myself, I have my own opinion of who I think is and isn't a good singer, and John Meyer definately isn't at the top of my list.
peteuplink on 6 Jun '08
John Mayer isn't a real singer??
Look, i like Seasons in the abyss as much as the next bloke, but despite his daft statements on games he is an incredibly talented musician...to say otherwise is just a bit narrow minded. Even the guitarist whose a teacher in Slipknot gives him respect. His version of Lenny is great....

Well being a singer myself, I have my own opinion of who I think is and isn't a good singer, and John Meyer definately isn't at the top of my list.

fair enough, each to his own....perhaps i slanted a bit on my argument..
You wernt really stating anything about his musical talent as such beyond singing..
I just get twitchy when people slag off musicians theyve never heard of, because they've never heard of them...not what you were doing mind you.
jazzy_p on 7 Jun '08
John Mayer is right, you conned-souls are a bunch of miserable c**ts. Learn to play an instrument you talentless snooker cues. How can Guitar Hero even be fun? It's just pressing buttons along to a tune. When you can play a song or have ever even bothered yourself to write a song, the pride you feel is far more than completing a stupid f**king level of some game. When you write a song, it's UNIQUE. Obviously the Conned-Souls are not familiar with this concept.

It's about time everyone with a console was rounded up and put into concentration camps.
apophis_dd on 7 Jun '08
wow, really you guys, this is being blown out of proportion. The author of this article is just being a total douche bag and biasing the article. And John Mayer has a point too, first off, most people who play guitar hero can't play an instrument. That's the reason why they got guitar hero, because they don't want to put the time and effort into learning a real instrument, yet still want to feel like a rockstar. Then there are people like me who have played guitar for about 8 years yet still want to play the game, just cuz they love the music. And second off, there is no comparison to playing guitar hero and real guitar. Honest to god man, I can play jordan on expert in guitar hero 2, but it is 100X more satisfying playing it on a real guitar. Basically John was just trying to express how much he loves real guitar over fake guitar hero guitar. This douchebag reporter just didn't have anything to write about so he decided to put a negative spin on it and get a whole bunch of gamers riled up so he can get more people reading his article. It's juvenile dude.

P.S. John Mayer kicks ass!
a_real_guitarist on 7 Jun '08
Yeah well said John, i wish my life was like yours, what with playing guitar and driving Ferrari's.A question... have you ever driven a Ferrari and played a guitar at the same time?
If not i'd call YOU a hack.
Bugalugs213 on 7 Jun '08
John Mayer is right, you conned-souls are a bunch of miserable c**ts. Learn to play an instrument you talentless snooker cues. How can Guitar Hero even be fun? It's just pressing buttons along to a tune. When you can play a song or have ever even bothered yourself to write a song, the pride you feel is far more than completing a stupid f**king level of some game. When you write a song, it's UNIQUE. Obviously the Conned-Souls are not familiar with this concept.

It's about time everyone with a console was rounded up and put into concentration camps.

I'm sorry, but I think you're totally missing the point.

I actually think that he's kinda right. Firstly, I imagine that you are a frustrated musician - you're far too offended by a computer game....secondly, I think he was more referring to people like yourself - you seem to be the type that would get overly up-yourself by being good at GH.

I think I reacted a little too quickly in my first post in this thread (I'm not going to edit it as if I'm pretending I didn't say it), but I think I reacted more to the kind of forum posts like this idiot here - I'm sorry, but why does anybody think that there is any real similarity to playing real guitar? - it just isn't about that!

For example, my brother is absolutely brilliant at GH.....makes me look stupid. I've played since I was 13 and he's had the opportunity to pick a guitar up and learn any time he wanted - he hasn't and he still has zero interest in it......he understands the difference.

In short, I think I was a little more angrier about idiotic posts like this - the typical 'Go play a real instrument...blah, blah, blah'....I think it's always the case that people that boast about their prowess tend to fall into the rubbish category - case in point.

Maybe John Mayer ran into one of the morons on LIVE that dandoc2 mentioned earlier, they really are pathetic - be enough to put most people off

Smile
ParmaViolet on 7 Jun '08
What a snooker cue! He's right, of course but still. He's a snooker cue!

My thaughts exactly, ok i agree with him but how arogant do you have to be to openly p**s on so many peoples parades like that. Wow guitar hero is easier than a real guitar, but if it was exactly the same noone would play it!.
rak49 on 7 Jun '08
Playing guitar is hardly a talent anyway. It's simply a skill you learn from hours and hours of practising. ANYONE can learn how to play guitar to some degree.

Considering this lad here is fairly unknown in the guitar playing field, and doesn't sit at the heights of TRUE guitar talent such as Malmsteen, Gilbert, Vai, Becker, Friedman etc, i'd say he's quite a hypocrite for calling people talentless.

Playing guitar isn't a talent but writing music definitely is. In fact if you hadn't quoted a list including Malmsteen and Vai etc. I probably would have agreed but as far as I'm concerned those guys are just accomplished technicians who have very little to actually say.

On the other side of the argumnet though, it looks like he was being misquoted. I think it should be apparent that the main thrust of the story is down to the placing of the word 'criticised' in the headline.

I think taking the Ferrarri line and spinning it like that is just poor journalism. Ferrarri's cost a lot - guitar's don't. The comparison is about control not price. What the hell am I reading here HEAT magazine or something?
tassletine on 7 Jun '08
Now I play guitar hero and actual guitar. I'd agree that actual is more fun. But not everyone can play guitar like dragonforce(Including me) so isn't it a good thing that people are picking up guitar hero, saying how cool they think it is and then actually going out and buying a real guitar to try and get that good. I'm sure guitar hero has inspired people to do that. And it's gotten me into so much music I wouldn't have come across if I hadn't played the game. And to some extent has gotten me better at playing actual guitar(Am trying songs from guitar hero recently. learnt a good bit of hanger 18 Very Happy )
nintendo is the on 7 Jun '08
Ive been playing rockband on drums and guitar and im lovin it. I dont have the patience to learn how to play real guitar so this is the next best thing.ive never heard of this signer so maybe he should concentrate on his career rather than bad mouth gamers!
cyberstevo on 7 Jun '08
f**k guitar hero. As a guitarist myself, I hate this game. All my mates bum it to f**k and I really don't see the enjoyment behind it.

I dislike it because it's so damn stereotypical it's not funny (whereas it's meant to be) and it just takes the f**king p**s with the stupid characters and the misrepresentation of how people who like metal look. It's a sham and now all these money grabbing little extras are coming out and people will buy them.

f**k this peice of s**t.
Shin2k35 on 7 Jun '08
Also, half the music on there is s**t. f**k Dragonforce, too. They're great musicians, but they write s**t music.
Shin2k35 on 7 Jun '08
In other words John Mayers music ain't featured in GH
Tekken._.PS3 on 7 Jun '08
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Trahildian on 7 Jun '08
I'm supposed to take this guy seriously when he's been photographed in a mankini? I enjoy GH and Rock Band, and for the multitudes who do as well, it's really unnecessary to make such an asinine comment.

I enjoy his music, but since he's gone and pulled this stunt, at least I can pocket the money I planned to spend on his upcoming concert stop. Maybe I'll use it to buy GH IV. Or a Ferrari.
T-Shirt on 8 Jun '08
I'd rather drive a bumper car than a Ferrari anyway...
AegisK on 8 Jun '08
John Mayer,LOL-oh no...a nobody has just called us nobody's untalented pretenders...its like a knife to my heart(!)
metallicorphan on 8 Jun '08
f**k guitar hero. As a guitarist myself, I hate this game. All my mates bum it to f**k and I really don't see the enjoyment behind it.

I dislike it because it's so damn stereotypical it's not funny (whereas it's meant to be) and it just takes the f**king p**s with the stupid characters and the misrepresentation of how people who like metal look. It's a sham and now all these money grabbing little extras are coming out and people will buy them.

f**k this peice of s**t.

Once again, you're an idiot - you take GH way too personally, most likely to hide your own lack of musical talent....ironic, to say the least.

GH misrepresents how 'metal fans' look? - seriously, that's a pathetic argument. Just go play something else.

Rolling Eyes
ParmaViolet on 8 Jun '08
Following previous replies, the National Union of Journalists have responded to the announcement of Beyond Good and Evil 2 by pointing out that playing Jade doesn't make you Richard Littlejohn.

The National Union of Miners have pointed out that playing Manic Miner doesn't prepare you for real excavation work.

And Wimbledon's All England Club have finally let loose on 'Pong'.
Picnic12 on 8 Jun '08
f**k guitar hero. As a guitarist myself, I hate this game. All my mates bum it to f**k and I really don't see the enjoyment behind it.

I dislike it because it's so damn stereotypical it's not funny (whereas it's meant to be) and it just takes the f**king p**s with the stupid characters and the misrepresentation of how people who like metal look. It's a sham and now all these money grabbing little extras are coming out and people will buy them.

f**k this peice of s**t.

Once again, you're an idiot - you take GH way too personally, most likely to hide your own lack of musical talent....ironic, to say the least.

GH misrepresents how 'metal fans' look? - seriously, that's a pathetic argument. Just go play something else.

Rolling Eyes

I'm a guitarist of 6 years. I'm far from untalented. I play 6 and 7 string guitars and get personal enjoyment form rocking out to Dream Theater.

The songs on guitar hero are s**t. The character actiosn relating to those songs are out of touch. Guitar Hero is a f**king fad. This is my opinion and it doesn't make me and idiot for expressing it. So, go f**k yourself and come back when you have a proper retort that isn't going to question my intelligence.
Shin2k35 on 8 Jun '08
As a fan of John Mayer for some years, I wanted to put the record straight on what was actually a perfectly rational comment made by him.

I read the full interview a while back, and cannot believe how this website has totally changed its meaning, and made him out to be an idiot... In my opinion, John Mayer is completely under-rated and deserves for people to actually judge him on what he puts out there, not some stupid fabrication made by the authors on this site.

You can read the whole article here:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_ujWj4QJYo5I/SERs9-fmJGI/AAAAAAAAL4s/NBOQvCTUgNU/s1600-h/jm_rollingstone.jpg

and you will see that at no point does he ever refer to anyone as being 'talentless'. All he is saying is that guitar hero was designed to make guitar playing easy, but for him there is no substitute for actually playing the songs on a real guitar.

Finally, to all the people that said he was a 'nobody' I implore you to find any serious guitarist that has not heard of him. Eric Clapton has repeatedly invited Mayer to perform at his Crossroads Guitar Festivals, and has also performed with him a number of times. If that isn't an accolade for a young musician, I don't know what is. A quick "clapton mayer" youtube search should clear this one up.
kidblues on 8 Jun '08
Checking some of his songs out at the minute. Not something I'd put on my iPod but wouldn't mind listening to a bit of it. Very mellow blues jazz sort of stuff. It's far from 'wannabe celebrity cash-in' type music. Hell, if his music is on House, then he's done a damn fine job at being a decent musician.

Read the article. I too didn't see any use of the word untalented. Once again, an article has gone and sensationalised something to the point where the point has been twisted.

I don't ever want to be the guy who rails against whatever progress has taken place

I can understand why certain guitarists will be annoyed with Guitar Hero, if only just for the disillusioned people who think because they can nail Through the Fire And Flames that they're a rock god. They don't like their craft being cheapened to the point where if people can play a piece of plastic resembling a guitar, they reckon can do the real thing.
Skreb-Masters on 8 Jun '08
Obviously he is right, but it is a bit rude to actually say it. Wink
EddyH7 on 8 Jun '08
John Mayer is right, you conned-souls are a bunch of miserable c**ts. Learn to play an instrument you talentless snooker cues. How can Guitar Hero even be fun? It's just pressing buttons along to a tune. When you can play a song or have ever even bothered yourself to write a song, the pride you feel is far more than completing a stupid f**king level of some game. When you write a song, it's UNIQUE. Obviously the Conned-Souls are not familiar with this concept.

It's about time everyone with a console was rounded up and put into concentration camps.

So, basically, what you are saying is that, because the game is not the real thing, we're all hopeless wannabees who'll never experience the real thing...

Ok then...

Next time you pick up COD4, tell yourself that, just like guitar hero, you have no idea how it actually feels out in the warzone... Real war isn't a game, it's unpredictable... But it's called entertainment... Nothing entertaining about war, but being able to take control of a character and go blow 7 decibels out of some terrorists is satisfying enough...

I can't play guitar for s**t, but I am learning... I've managed a few chords... But I play guitar hero because it's a bit of fun, a good laugh... When I play, I don't think "f**k, if it's this easy, then surely the guitar is!"... I take it as it is; as a game... Everyone lighten up and just enjoy it... You can see now why the hell we get games ratings as rediculous as we do... 'Cos everyone takes games too literally...
haushinka-daz on 9 Jun '08
I'm not fighting against Guitar Hero alone, I'm fighting against consoles in general. They suck and are ruining games, WITH s**t like GH and Rock Band and all that Final Fantasy anime bullc**t. I wish you would all die and leave the people who play games, how they were intended, on PCs, alone.

Ps. Dragonforce sucks.
apophis_dd on 9 Jun '08
heh, if he's gonna make comments like that. he needs to make sure that he's a talented musician first. oh well. For the record, I'm a fair guitarist and can play a few other instruments as well, but I SUCK at guitar hero!
Jabbanobadda on 10 Jun '08
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