CVG has managed to get its grubby hands on the final list of features for the hotly anticipated Firmware 2.4 update, which was yesterday rumoured to be due early next week. But that's not the case we've been told...
Update: Since our original story went live, we've received further information regarding the inclusion of trophies in the 2.4 update. As expected full 2D trophy support will be in the XMB update and there will be four types: Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum.
Platinum is only awarded when you have collected all other trophies in a game. Also there are no gamer points, it's all done via a levelling up system. Think Call of Duty 4 levelling up system, we reckon. Update Out
Speaking under strict conditions of anonymity, a source has told CVG that Firmware 2.4 is expected to launch in around three weeks' time. A quick look at the diary reveals that E3 is just under three weeks away. It doesn't take a genius to see that Sony's pre-E3 conference would be the perfect time to launch the Sony XMB assault.
Announcing something and making it available at the same time is the way forward, as Microsoft proved by revealing Doom isn't just coming to Xbox Live Arcade, it's on Xbox Live Arcade a few E3s ago. Apple is known for this approach too.
We've also scooped the following list of XMB features that you'll be able to access in-game. Here goes:
Friend category
View, send, receive messages
Manage downloads
Set the vibration feature of the controller
Sign in to PlayStation Network
Register friends
Manage Bluetooth devices
Terminate the game
Music category
Use the system BGM
Work the system BGM operation panel
Settings category
Assign controllers
View profiles
Game category
Set audio devices
Use the voice changer
As previously reported the update will also allow you to play back your own tunes in-game from the XMB Music column. It's unclear whether this feature will be compatible with all games or just new titles created with more recent development tools.
The system BGM will offer functions such as Play, Stop, Previous track, Next track, Change repeat mode, Change shuffle mode, Change volume (five levels). When you stop the playback of your tunes, playback of the game music will then begin.
Sony has yet to confirm or deny any of this and won't comment on rumour and speculation. If you ask us though, this is bang on the money. Not long to wait and see...
Yes but Sony are basically copying everything off XBL. So it is only a matter of time before PSO is identical to XBL.
How can MS justify a charge? They can't simply, especially when you start seeing MMOG with added chargable monthly fees.
It all adds up.
I love that you basically put the answer in your own post:
"Sony are copying everything off XBL, it's only a matter of time till it's identical, It all adds up".
That's right it all adds up to PSN in all liklyhood becoming a charged for service same as XBL.
They've spend a s**t load of cash catching up with XBL so I imagine they may want to soon re-coup some of that cost. I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes??? That's right a bucket load of cash that Sony would like to have.
That's decent. I've had the urge to play "Sunshine Lollipops" whilst on a killing spree on a game for ages. It just fits.
I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes???
Well considering not all 8 million will actually buy and considering free online is a selling point for them i would say common sense reigns over your math skills.
I don't mind if they do charge. If they want to compete thoug it'd have to be around the £20 mark. That's still 20x more than free and it's more competition against Live.
Yes but Sony are basically copying everything off XBL. So it is only a matter of time before PSO is identical to XBL.
How can MS justify a charge? They can't simply, especially when you start seeing MMOG with added chargable monthly fees.
It all adds up.
I love that you basically put the answer in your own post:
"Sony are copying everything off XBL, it's only a matter of time till it's identical, It all adds up".
That's right it all adds up to PSN in all liklyhood becoming a charged for service same as XBL.
They've spend a s**t load of cash catching up with XBL so I imagine they may want to soon re-coup some of that cost. I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes??? That's right a bucket load of cash that Sony would like to have.
Look, if you've owned a 360 from the start, you have incurred a £120 XBL fee to date. So in effect, the 360 costs another £40 for every year you own it.
PS3 of course the service is free. So the price of the console stays at what you paid for it.
Remember, XBL is a vital component of the 360 console and the PS3 console. So charging for it makes the 360 cost £420 sheets if you've had the cursed thing from the start.
Not to mention the emotional cost of having to wait for the Xbox engineers to fix it and send the 200lb monstrosity back to your fooking house.
Yes but Sony are basically copying everything off XBL. So it is only a matter of time before PSO is identical to XBL.
How can MS justify a charge? They can't simply, especially when you start seeing MMOG with added chargable monthly fees.
It all adds up.
I love that you basically put the answer in your own post:
"Sony are copying everything off XBL, it's only a matter of time till it's identical, It all adds up".
That's right it all adds up to PSN in all liklyhood becoming a charged for service same as XBL.
They've spend a s**t load of cash catching up with XBL so I imagine they may want to soon re-coup some of that cost. I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes??? That's right a bucket load of cash that Sony would like to have.
Look, if you've owned a 360 from the start, you have incurred a £120 XBL fee to date. So in effect, the 360 costs another £40 for every year you own it.
PS3 of course the service is free. So the price of the console stays at what you paid for it.
Remember, XBL is a vital component of the 360 console and the PS3 console. So charging for it makes the 360 cost £420 sheets if you've had the cursed thing from the start.
Not to mention the emotional cost of having to wait for the Xbox engineers to fix it and send the 200lb monstosity back to your fooking house.
The 360 was worthwhile at launch.
PSN isnt as good of a service.
If i had to chose a game on the 360 or PS3 i would judge it on two things:
Achievments
&
Online.
360 would win each time.
Plus the amount of demos, videos etc you can get for free compared to the PSN...
Yes but Sony are basically copying everything off XBL. So it is only a matter of time before PSO is identical to XBL.
How can MS justify a charge? They can't simply, especially when you start seeing MMOG with added chargable monthly fees.
It all adds up.
I love that you basically put the answer in your own post:
"Sony are copying everything off XBL, it's only a matter of time till it's identical, It all adds up".
That's right it all adds up to PSN in all liklyhood becoming a charged for service same as XBL.
They've spend a s**t load of cash catching up with XBL so I imagine they may want to soon re-coup some of that cost. I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes??? That's right a bucket load of cash that Sony would like to have.
Look, if you've owned a 360 from the start, you have incurred a £120 XBL fee to date. So in effect, the 360 costs another £40 for every year you own it.
PS3 of course the service is free. So the price of the console stays at what you paid for it.
Remember, XBL is a vital component of the 360 console and the PS3 console. So charging for it makes the 360 cost £420 sheets if you've had the cursed thing from the start.
Not to mention the emotional cost of having to wait for the Xbox engineers to fix it and send the 200lb monstrosity back to your fooking house.
Sometimes up to 5 times.
You've pretty much not read what i've written have you? You've just typed £420 in big black bold font & then rambled a bit.
I've suggested that Sony may view the incoming 2.4 upgrades as the features that finally make PSN a jusifably chargeable service & then given you an indication of how much it'd be worth to Sony.
Following your own argument why would MS drop their charge? They currently have X number of consoles sold with X number of people happily paying £40 a year... that's a lot of money. If those people wanted to stop paying they could either a) ditch XBL & then potentialy b) buy a PSN for 300 notes, or whatever, and get PSN for free (at the moment i'd stress). b) would set them back what 7 1/2 years sub fee so that doesn't make monetary sense does it & if the just did a) they'd just be denying themselves a service they've obviously been using to their own detriment. So why would they scrap it?
XBL has alot more worthwhile games to play online.
COD4
Halo 3
Gears Of War
GTA IV
How can COD4 and GTA IV be "more worthwhile" than the PS3's selection of online games, when the PS3's online games include both these games?
Plus, if you have a PC you can play Gears of War online for free.
And Soon the Best Game of All Time:
Gears Of War 2....
Yeah, and a few months after it's out, PC owners will again be able to play it online for absolutely no charge.
Yh ill pay £40 a year.
Thats what £3.33* a Month?
If that money were used to provide free downloadable content (extra levels and the like) for the popular games, then it would certainly be justified. But that's not the case; additional content generally requires you to pay even more for it.
And i get to play with people i otherwise would have never known?
If that's a top priority for you, then the PC is a far superior solution than any of the consoles. Even if you can't afford a decent system, there are numerous popular online PC games that will run on low spec systems; for instance, Doom 2 is still insanely popular, and you could get a system capable of running it at a decent speed for less than the price of a Wii!
Yes but Sony are basically copying everything off XBL. So it is only a matter of time before PSO is identical to XBL.
How can MS justify a charge? They can't simply, especially when you start seeing MMOG with added chargable monthly fees.
It all adds up.
I love that you basically put the answer in your own post:
"Sony are copying everything off XBL, it's only a matter of time till it's identical, It all adds up".
That's right it all adds up to PSN in all liklyhood becoming a charged for service same as XBL.
They've spend a s**t load of cash catching up with XBL so I imagine they may want to soon re-coup some of that cost. I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes??? That's right a bucket load of cash that Sony would like to have.
Look, if you've owned a 360 from the start, you have incurred a £120 XBL fee to date. So in effect, the 360 costs another £40 for every year you own it.
PS3 of course the service is free. So the price of the console stays at what you paid for it.
Remember, XBL is a vital component of the 360 console and the PS3 console. So charging for it makes the 360 cost £420 sheets if you've had the cursed thing from the start.
Not to mention the emotional cost of having to wait for the Xbox engineers to fix it and send the 200lb monstrosity back to your fooking house.
Sometimes up to 5 times.
You've pretty much not read what i've written have you? You've just typed £420 in big black bold font & then rambled a bit.
I've suggested that Sony may view the incoming 2.4 upgrades as the features that finally make PSN a jusifably chargeable service & then given you an indication of how much it'd be worth to Sony.
Following your own argument why would MS drop their charge? They currently have X number of consoles sold with X number of people happily paying £40 a year... that's a lot of money. If those people wanted to stop paying they could either a) ditch XBL & then potentialy b) buy a PSN for 300 notes, or whatever, and get PSN for free (at the moment i'd stress). b) would set them back what 7 1/2 years sub fee so that doesn't make monetary sense does it & if the just did a) they'd just be denying themselves a service they've obviously been using to their own detriment. So why would they scrap it?
Oh stop defending them. M$ are the richest company on earth. They don't need to charge every gamer who owns their console £3.95 a week. Look at the way M$ are trying their hegemony of the world's companies by trying to annex Yahoo into their empire.
Come Xmas the PSN and XBL will be nigh on identical. So whose online service are consumers gonna go for? A free one or £40-a-year-one with the added 33% risk of not being able to even go online because your console is being repaired.
Yes and no doubt the became they richest company in the world by making top business decisions like scraping a service that makes them what maybe 1/2 a billion pounds a year. Can't see any reason why Sony would want in on that.
well that entertained me for a few minutes. i'll come back later this afternoon when you cretins have written a little more of your wanky drawl fisting over your consoles.
Yes but Sony are basically copying everything off XBL. So it is only a matter of time before PSO is identical to XBL.
How can MS justify a charge? They can't simply, especially when you start seeing MMOG with added chargable monthly fees.
It all adds up.
I love that you basically put the answer in your own post:
"Sony are copying everything off XBL, it's only a matter of time till it's identical, It all adds up".
That's right it all adds up to PSN in all liklyhood becoming a charged for service same as XBL.
They've spend a s**t load of cash catching up with XBL so I imagine they may want to soon re-coup some of that cost. I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes??? That's right a bucket load of cash that Sony would like to have.
Look, if you've owned a 360 from the start, you have incurred a £120 XBL fee to date. So in effect, the 360 costs another £40 for every year you own it.
PS3 of course the service is free. So the price of the console stays at what you paid for it.
Remember, XBL is a vital component of the 360 console and the PS3 console. So charging for it makes the 360 cost £420 sheets if you've had the cursed thing from the start.
Not to mention the emotional cost of having to wait for the Xbox engineers to fix it and send the 200lb monstrosity back to your fooking house.
Sometimes up to 5 times.
You've pretty much not read what i've written have you? You've just typed £420 in big black bold font & then rambled a bit.
I've suggested that Sony may view the incoming 2.4 upgrades as the features that finally make PSN a jusifably chargeable service & then given you an indication of how much it'd be worth to Sony.
Following your own argument why would MS drop their charge? They currently have X number of consoles sold with X number of people happily paying £40 a year... that's a lot of money. If those people wanted to stop paying they could either a) ditch XBL & then potentialy b) buy a PSN for 300 notes, or whatever, and get PSN for free (at the moment i'd stress). b) would set them back what 7 1/2 years sub fee so that doesn't make monetary sense does it & if the just did a) they'd just be denying themselves a service they've obviously been using to their own detriment. So why would they scrap it?
Oh stop defending them. M$ are the richest company on earth. They don't need to charge every gamer who owns their console £3.95 a week. Look at the way M$ are trying their hegemony of the world's companies by trying to annex Yahoo into their empire.
Come Xmas the PSN and XBL will be nigh on identical. So whose online service are consumers gonna go for? A free one or £40-a-year-one with the added 33% risk of not being able to even go online because your console is being repaired.
Can I just say, you make a hell of a lot of assumptions, you know for a fact that at Xmas both networks will be available will be identical? I didnt think so.
If your never going to buy a 360 what difference does it make to you if they charge for online?
I do find you funny (sometimes) but like most fanboys that starts to fade and I just find you pretty pathetic, why o why are you so blind in your devotion to Sony? Unless you get paid by them and there paying your mortgage then maybe just maybe you would get away with it, but no, your mum & dad pay the mortgage and got railroaded into buying a Playstation for their little darling to keep him happy ask them to get you a 360 and then you really will have the best of both worlds.
I remember the good old days when it was just the games that the fanboys argued about....
That must have been in the days when only 1 type of computer/console existed. I sure don't remember those days though, but people were arguing about their consoles/pc/commodore/whatever ever since there were at least 2 brands.
I've recently made the switch to PS3 and I have to admit that, for me, the online games I have been involved in have been great with very little lag. The only game I did have a problem with was the demo of BF: BC, that was easily fixed though.
Friends are easily located if they have the game. Sure it's done a little differently to M$ but you get used to it.
From my experience, I paid the subscription to M$ so I could play online (Thats the only reason I had it). You get demos earlier than that of silver members but they eventually get them. Also, you have to pay for gamerpics, themes, XBLA titles and also for films, so thats more money.
Yes, Sony are playing catch-up but to dismiss it would be silly. As for the cheap Blu Ray player comment. I'm certainly glad that I didn't spend £120 at the time for the HD-DVD add on that M$ knocked out which is now available at Gamestation for £29.99!
Yes but Sony are basically copying everything off XBL. So it is only a matter of time before PSO is identical to XBL.
How can MS justify a charge? They can't simply, especially when you start seeing MMOG with added chargable monthly fees.
It all adds up.
I love that you basically put the answer in your own post:
"Sony are copying everything off XBL, it's only a matter of time till it's identical, It all adds up".
That's right it all adds up to PSN in all liklyhood becoming a charged for service same as XBL.
They've spend a s**t load of cash catching up with XBL so I imagine they may want to soon re-coup some of that cost. I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes??? That's right a bucket load of cash that Sony would like to have.
Look, if you've owned a 360 from the start, you have incurred a £120 XBL fee to date. So in effect, the 360 costs another £40 for every year you own it.
PS3 of course the service is free. So the price of the console stays at what you paid for it.
Remember, XBL is a vital component of the 360 console and the PS3 console. So charging for it makes the 360 cost £420 sheets if you've had the cursed thing from the start.
Not to mention the emotional cost of having to wait for the Xbox engineers to fix it and send the 200lb monstrosity back to your fooking house.
Sometimes up to 5 times.
You've pretty much not read what i've written have you? You've just typed £420 in big black bold font & then rambled a bit.
I've suggested that Sony may view the incoming 2.4 upgrades as the features that finally make PSN a jusifably chargeable service & then given you an indication of how much it'd be worth to Sony.
Following your own argument why would MS drop their charge? They currently have X number of consoles sold with X number of people happily paying £40 a year... that's a lot of money. If those people wanted to stop paying they could either a) ditch XBL & then potentialy b) buy a PSN for 300 notes, or whatever, and get PSN for free (at the moment i'd stress). b) would set them back what 7 1/2 years sub fee so that doesn't make monetary sense does it & if the just did a) they'd just be denying themselves a service they've obviously been using to their own detriment. So why would they scrap it?
There's a good point made there in regards to the quality of both services.
There is a lot of xbox users who don't begrudge paying for the service supplied, but how many ps3 users would say the same, i certainly would not.
While no one wants to pay, we don't mind so much if the service is worth it, and even with this latest update i don't think sony's is.
Also the point made about the lack of headset use also imho devalues the online experience on ps3, which is another reason i plump for the xbox when i purchase multi format games,.....well, and the achievements....oh and the better pad.....and the.. i'll quit while im ahead.
Oh for Christ's sake, do we have to go through this every bloody time the 2.40 firmware update is mentioned? Yes, XBL is probably better than PSN - whoopee-freakin-do. What on earth will the XBL fanboys do when 2.40 is finally released - they'll have even less ammo for comparison!
JohnWalker - your suggesting that Sony *may* start charging for PSN is pure and utter conjecture. I'll add my own bollox with p**s-all to back it up - M$ *may* make XBL free to compete with Sony.
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
I was going to stay out of this whole fanboy thing and just be random, but I have to say... although you're being absolutely ridiculous, completely past the point of being childish - you've basically shown just how little the PS3 has to offer if you can only come up with one (still annanounced) game to compare to a huge list of 360 games.
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
I remember the good old days when it was just the games that the fanboys argued about....
i don't remember those days and i've been gaming since the mid 80's. as soon as we had a choice its always been about the consoles. from c64 vs speccy to ps3 vs xbox360. they've always been there wanting the other machine to fail not realizing that the industry needs compitition.
JohnWalker - your suggesting that Sony *may* start charging for PSN is pure and utter conjecture. I'll add my own bollox with p**s-all to back it up - M$ *may* make XBL free to compete with Sony.
Thanks for that, thankfully you'll see if you read like the 2nd post of the thread that i was actually responding to your bollox with p**s-all to back it up, although posted by Suiv in a slightly different format.
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Unicorn dreams!!!
LMAO what was that all about! This crazy mofo cracked me up!
My favourite was "Assgay" and "My gramma doesnt matter,what matter is that crap like you are alive.You are one of this little emos.You blind bastard."
Bring him back - He was one of the few who bring laughs to these forums
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
as a ps3 owner and a vaguely intelligent person; i cannot see psn staying free forever. this is also something that Sony have hinted at in the past, and you will have to be living in a world lolly pops and butterflies if you think Sony would not cash in on it.
Once XMB and trophies is up and running, bug free and plenty of people are using it, we can expect a competitive rate for it.
To be honest with you if Sony had started charging now they wouldn't have the 8 million, because the store is terrible compared to the 360 equivalent.
Oh and just for good measure, it does crack me up that the 360 owners jump on these ps3 threads and start ranting about the past...
Not that knowing a persons favourite 360 games and whether they have a headset to talk to their neighbour isn't interesting of course...
Okay people, let's get real. 360 owners will find this news uninteresting and quite rightly as it makes no difference to them. PS3 owners will no doubt be delighted that PSN is about to become 10 times better than it is now. Me? I will soon own 2 consoles with achievements, messaging, friends lists, in-game music and chat. Fantastic.
And stop bloody arguing.
EDIT: My only problem now is, which console do I buy a multiplatform game on? I'm still waiting for more news on these trophies to help me decide. CVG?
The ammount of 360 owners who read PS3 news is staggering.
Anyway. It seems like a nice bunch of features, if they are true.
Well, this news is on the front page, so I'm guessing Wii, PC, DS and other owners see it too...
Exactly. It's funny how the PS3 fans (nobody else seems to do it) get uppity about everyone else reading their news, as though the anti-PS3 fanboys are searching the forums to post... this is front-page news. Everybody reads it.
I remember the good old days when it was just the games that the fanboys argued about....
That must have been in the days when only 1 type of computer/console existed. I sure don't remember those days though, but people were arguing about their consoles/pc/commodore/whatever ever since there were at least 2 brands.
christ i remmeber people fighting over the spectrum!
The ammount of 360 owners who read PS3 news is staggering.
Anyway. It seems like a nice bunch of features, if they are true.
Well, this news is on the front page, so I'm guessing Wii, PC, DS and other owners see it too...
Exactly. It's funny how the PS3 fans (nobody else seems to do it) get uppity about everyone else reading their news, as though the anti-PS3 fanboys are searching the forums to post... this is front-page news. Everybody reads it.
The point we're trying to make is that 360 owners read the article then come on to these threads to lambaste them. It's childish and annoying.
Especially when you have to sift through the pointless personal views based on assumption or repeated arguments, just so you can find some interesting and useful information...
Yes but Sony are basically copying everything off XBL. So it is only a matter of time before PSO is identical to XBL.
How can MS justify a charge? They can't simply, especially when you start seeing MMOG with added chargable monthly fees.
It all adds up.
I love that you basically put the answer in your own post:
"Sony are copying everything off XBL, it's only a matter of time till it's identical, It all adds up".
That's right it all adds up to PSN in all liklyhood becoming a charged for service same as XBL.
They've spend a s**t load of cash catching up with XBL so I imagine they may want to soon re-coup some of that cost. I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes??? That's right a bucket load of cash that Sony would like to have.
You're criticizing Sony for something they haven't done? And the way you have done that is to say that they will do the same as Microsoft who incidentally you aren't criticizing. Seriously mate have a think about it is you are actually saying.
I very highly doubt that Sony will charge for using the PSN like MS. Fanboys and hardcore gamers aside, there's a much bigger market of more casual fans like my brother in law who owns a PS3 and asks me about future games etc and has no clue and if Sony suddently cut him off from playing COD4 online and asked to charge him he'd go mental as would a large amount of the population. How is that going to help Sony's rep? You can't just make something free then take it away it would be unfair to the casual consumer and certainly cause a huge number of complaints that the company really don't need. I myself bought a PS3 because I'd rather have free online gaming than pay a subscription fee and big whoop dee doo if theres more people on voice chat on XBL, I don't want to talk to a bunch of screaming titmunchers anyway who just shout abuse.
XBL has alot more worthwhile games to play online.
COD4
Halo 3
Gears Of War
GTA IV
How can COD4 and GTA IV be "more worthwhile" than the PS3's selection of online games, when the PS3's online games include both these games?
Plus, if you have a PC you can play Gears of War online for free.
And Soon the Best Game of All Time:
Gears Of War 2....
Yeah, and a few months after it's out, PC owners will again be able to play it online for absolutely no charge.
Yh ill pay £40 a year.
Thats what £3.33* a Month?
If that money were used to provide free downloadable content (extra levels and the like) for the popular games, then it would certainly be justified. But that's not the case; additional content generally requires you to pay even more for it.
And i get to play with people i otherwise would have never known?
If that's a top priority for you, then the PC is a far superior solution than any of the consoles. Even if you can't afford a decent system, there are numerous popular online PC games that will run on low spec systems; for instance, Doom 2 is still insanely popular, and you could get a system capable of running it at a decent speed for less than the price of a Wii!
COD 4 and GTA IV are better on the 360 coz of achievments, more people are on the 360, more people actually talk on the 360.
Plus i have alot more friends on the 360.
Yes you can play Gears on PC for free but then you cant get Achievments and you cant play ranked.
If gears 2 is on the PC then i will buy it on the PC aswell as the 360...
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
I hope PLaystation dont start charging for thier on line access but I can see it in the pipe line.
I dont think I would pay a fee, the machine costs enough and so do the games. Even if it adds up to a small £3.99 a month sodd that, these companys should give something back to thier customers.
Without our hard earned cash being pumped in there would be no PS or XBOX, it would be a good gesture of them to keep on line for free. I almost know that once its established a fee will emerge and once again PS3 owners will feel that rear penetration.
Jesus will you just grow up and stop arguing about which console is best?! Thers more to life than this!
And will someone tell me what happened t the trophies???!!!
well said buddy - i was reading this thread and didn't even realise i had fell asleep until my work colleague just shove me, it's SOOOOO very tirng and uncalled for. i have both machines personally and out of the 2 i prefer the 360 but that is just my opinion, i dont see the point in slagging of people just because the aint got a 360 or vice versa. Grow up everyone and live life well and play ya games
You're criticizing Sony for something they haven't done? And the way you have done that is to say that they will do the same as Microsoft who incidentally you aren't criticizing. Seriously mate have a think about it is you are actually saying.
honestly how have i critized Sony? I think you've seriously mis-understood what i've said. I'm neither criticzing Sony for offering a free online service or MS for offering a charged service but simply suggested that potentially rather than XBL becoming free PSN may become charged... and even then i only did so in response to some comment about MS justifying the charge.
I remember the good old days when it was just the games that the fanboys argued about....
i don't remember those days and i've been gaming since the mid 80's. as soon as we had a choice its always been about the consoles. from c64 vs speccy to ps3 vs xbox360. they've always been there wanting the other machine to fail not realizing that the industry needs compitition.
Obviously I didn't make myself clear enough.
My point was that fanboys used to argue between themselves over what games their console of choice had that the others didn't.
Now they are arguing about which consoles allow you to play your own music in the background and other such amazing extra features. Anyone heard of a stereo system?
The old arguments about games were entertaining, these arguments are just sad...
It's funny how the PS3 fans get uppity about everyone else reading their news, as though the anti-PS3 fanboys are searching the forums to post.
And the award for the most ironic post goes to...Mr Xk**b. You sir are living proof that anti-PS3 fanboys are trolling the forums - don't make me have to prove this by pulling out some of the veritable troll gems you've posted in the past! I think the reason why they (PS3 owners) get so irked is because they're outnumbered and constantly expected to roll over and say "yes, great xbox owner, my console sucks and yours is the best." Imagine if you owned a Ferrari and constantly had Nova pikeys telling you their car was best and quoting sales figures to back this up.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
Is this guy for real? LMAO "Highly Respected Citizen"
I remember the good old days when it was just the games that the fanboys argued about....
i don't remember those days and i've been gaming since the mid 80's. as soon as we had a choice its always been about the consoles. from c64 vs speccy to ps3 vs xbox360. they've always been there wanting the other machine to fail not realizing that the industry needs compitition.
Obviously I didn't make myself clear enough.
My point was that fanboys used to argue between themselves over what games their console of choice had that the others didn't.
Now they are arguing about which consoles allow you to play your own music in the background and other such amazing () extra features. Anyone heard of a stereo system?
The old arguments about games were entertaining, these arguments are just sad...
Yes and you're arguing over what the fanboys used to argue about lol
Well discounting my fine post, that's more than 60 completely useless, timewasting efforts. Thanks guys, I think I'll start buying the Sun newspaper for a bit of sense. Respect to the sane.
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
From your last statement I think we've hit the nail on the head:
You were bullied at school by geeks, dweebs & nerds and its still affecting you to this day, you have never been able to get over it and I can understand why, I would be humiliated if I was beaten on a regualr basis by geeks and nerds. Anything that reminds you of them and that period you shut out, you need closure on this. The Samaritans are a good start.
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
Well in LIVE I've had most of these features since November of 01. The question might be with Sony losing so much on the PS3 right now how long can they leave it free?
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
From your last statement I think we've hit the nail on the head:
You were bullied at school by geeks, dweebs & nerds and its still affecting you to this day, you have never been able to get over it and I can understand why, I would be humiliated if I was beaten on a regualr basis by geeks and nerds. Anything that reminds you of them and that period you shut out, you need closure on this. The Samaritans are a good start.
This is how easy REAL wars start, over differences in opinions. Surely we are all one and the same on these forums and should embrace each other as brethren? We all love games, so why all the animosity when this is probably the best time to be a gamer?
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
From your last statement I think we've hit the nail on the head:
You were bullied at school by geeks, dweebs & nerds and its still affecting you to this day, you have never been able to get over it and I can understand why, I would be humiliated if I was beaten on a regualr basis by geeks and nerds. Anything that reminds you of them and that period you shut out, you need closure on this. The Samaritans are a good start.
This is how easy REAL wars start, over differences in opinions. Surely we are all one and the same on these forums and should embrace each other as brethren? We all love games, so why all the animosity when this is probably the best time to be a gamer?
*sobs onto a picture of a homeless dog*
EDIT: Sorry, double post. Mind you, I could'nt see for tears.
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
From your last statement I think we've hit the nail on the head:
You were bullied at school by geeks, dweebs & nerds and its still affecting you to this day, you have never been able to get over it and I can understand why, I would be humiliated if I was beaten on a regualr basis by geeks and nerds. Anything that reminds you of them and that period you shut out, you need closure on this. The Samaritans are a good start.
This is how easy REAL wars start, over differences in opinions. Surely we are all one and the same on these forums and should embrace each other as brethren? We all love games, so why all the animosity when this is probably the best time to be a gamer?
Sure it will be "great" Close to copy , but what do ps3 users gain with it???
PSusers don't use headsets and are known as mainstream individualistic gamers. Even if they use you hear s**t on most of the games. This is a fact.
If you want the real deal you have to pay a little for it. Xbox started with Live as an intergrated part of teir system. The community has grown beyond competition.
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
From your last statement I think we've hit the nail on the head:
You were bullied at school by geeks, dweebs & nerds and its still affecting you to this day, you have never been able to get over it and I can understand why, I would be humiliated if I was beaten on a regualr basis by geeks and nerds. Anything that reminds you of them and that period you shut out, you need closure on this. The Samaritans are a good start.
This is how easy REAL wars start, over differences in opinions. Surely we are all one and the same on these forums and should embrace each other as brethren? We all love games, so why all the animosity when this is probably the best time to be a gamer?
*sobs onto a picture of a homeless dog*
EDIT: Sorry, double post. Mind you, I could'nt see for tears.
*wipes face with an eco-friendly tissue*
Marky, I know you enjoy your PS3 and 360 and thats cool, I aint got no issues with people who come on here and add something to the debate, but this Suiv character, he has to wake up and smell the napalm.
I actually think he ruins a lot of threads with his nonsense, and yes they are as bad on both sides of the war, but if you look at who is at top of these threads causing it, hes never to far away.
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
sorry, double post. this website sucks, it hangs so often and is really slow!
tell me about it. i posted 3 times on another thread today and the page still didn't load. its f**kin murder some times to have a decent arguement with someone when the pages won't load.
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
sorry, double post. this website sucks, it hangs so often and is really slow!
tell me about it. i posted 3 times on another thread today and the page still didn't load. its f**kin murder some times to have a decent arguement with someone when the pages won't load.
mind you its getting hard to argue with some people with such blinkered views. shiwayb i'm looking at you
Does seem like a good update, like i said before it seems to have got people on PS sites wetting their pants and yeah it is what live already has. Get over it. It makes me laugh that people get so defensive over something so trivial. PSN does have alot to catching up to do to be up to Xbox lives standards, get over yourself.
I dont think i'd pay for the service if they do start charging, just as i refused to pay for Live. I know they have to make (more money) but i dont think we should buy the games and shell out more to play them online
JohnWalker - your suggesting that Sony *may* start charging for PSN is pure and utter conjecture. I'll add my own bollox with p**s-all to back it up - M$ *may* make XBL free to compete with Sony.
Thanks for that, thankfully you'll see if you read like the 2nd post of the thread that i was actually responding to your bollox with p**s-all to back it up, although posted by Suiv in a slightly different format.
Ah. Yes, you were responding to a question asked earlier so please accept my apologies. Usually these threads are spun out of control from someone mentioning that PSN is free compared to XBL and then it generates into a free-for-all - I'm sure you know the score. You were responding to a question so I'm sorry for my comments, which looking at now were out of order anyway.
I'll just go and squeeze into the mouse hole below my desk now as I feel about 3 inches tall
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
sorry, double post. this website sucks, it hangs so often and is really slow!
tell me about it. i posted 3 times on another thread today and the page still didn't load. its f**kin murder some times to have a decent arguement with someone when the pages won't load.
mind you its getting hard to argue with some people with such blinkered views. shiwayb i'm looking at you
I really don't care.
I presume As you live in Scotland it gets pretty boring as nothing happens up north and therefore you have alot of time on your hands to "Argue" over the Internet.
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
sorry, double post. this website sucks, it hangs so often and is really slow!
tell me about it. i posted 3 times on another thread today and the page still didn't load. its f**kin murder some times to have a decent arguement with someone when the pages won't load.
mind you its getting hard to argue with some people with such blinkered views. shiwayb i'm looking at you
I really don't care.
I presume As you live in Scotland it gets pretty boring as nothing happens up north and therefore you have alot of time on your hands to "Argue" over the Internet.
Some of us do have a life...
no i just get bored at work. there's plenty to do. and your the one who started all this with your statement that gears has a great story. you haven't contributed anything to the 2.4 update topic and seem to be more of an xbox fanboy. and for someone who's supposedly spent more than £1800 on 2 US ps3's you seem to be very much in bill gates bottomhole. grow up little kiddie and get a clue.
Why can't everyone just be happy that PS3 owners are getting something good?! It's been a long time coming and it is nearly here. It in no way affects anyone who doesn't own a PS3, so i don't see what right people have to come on here and bash it when: 1. Nobody knows exactly what the update will be like. 2. They don't use a PS3. I'm looking forward to it, so i couldn't care less what all you "haters" say.
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
sorry, double post. this website sucks, it hangs so often and is really slow!
tell me about it. i posted 3 times on another thread today and the page still didn't load. its f**kin murder some times to have a decent arguement with someone when the pages won't load.
mind you its getting hard to argue with some people with such blinkered views. shiwayb i'm looking at you
I really don't care.
I presume As you live in Scotland it gets pretty boring as nothing happens up north and therefore you have alot of time on your hands to "Argue" over the Internet.
Some of us do have a life...
no i just get bored at work. there's plenty to do. and your the one who started all this with your statement that gears has a great story. you haven't contributed anything to the 2.4 update topic and seem to be more of an xbox fanboy. and for someone who's supposedly spent more than £1800 on 2 US ps3's you seem to be very much in bill gates bottomhole. grow up little kiddie and get a clue.
You get bored at work?
Wow you must have a pretty lame job, and boring and rubbish life and plus you live in Scotland.
LOL.
Wouldnt want to be you...
And if you read the first page you will see i was on topic.
Im not an xbox fanboy, what gave you that impression?
I own all the current consoles...
And Bill Gates?
Isnt he retired?
Grow Up?
I am grown up.
Get a Clue?
Get A Clue about what?
Someone obviously was an under achiever at school and therefore has a Sh!t life and needs to spend time on these Forums.
And Shouldnt you be w@nking over how good MGS4's cut scenes are?
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
*SPLUTTER COUGH GAG LOL!!!!*
Me is got a 25 metre swimming badge and all de chix well dig it. Me won it when me nan took me to the interschool olympics wiv Egham Grammar.
Seriously though, wtf has whether I'd like to share a classroom with Bill gates got anything to do with which console or online gaming service I choose?! That is the most tenuous fanboy argument I've ever heard in my life!!!
If you don't like something, fine. Just change the bloody record occasionally and stop bleating the same crap day in day out.
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
sorry, double post. this website sucks, it hangs so often and is really slow!
tell me about it. i posted 3 times on another thread today and the page still didn't load. its f**kin murder some times to have a decent arguement with someone when the pages won't load.
mind you its getting hard to argue with some people with such blinkered views. shiwayb i'm looking at you
I really don't care.
I presume As you live in Scotland it gets pretty boring as nothing happens up north and therefore you have alot of time on your hands to "Argue" over the Internet.
Some of us do have a life...
no i just get bored at work. there's plenty to do. and your the one who started all this with your statement that gears has a great story. you haven't contributed anything to the 2.4 update topic and seem to be more of an xbox fanboy. and for someone who's supposedly spent more than £1800 on 2 US ps3's you seem to be very much in bill gates bottomhole. grow up little kiddie and get a clue.
You get bored at work?
Wow you must have a pretty lame job, and boring and rubbish life and plus you live in Scotland.
LOL.
Wouldnt want to be you...
And if you read the first page you will see i was on topic.
Im not an xbox fanboy, what gave you that impression?
I own all the current consoles...
And Bill Gates?
Isnt he retired?
Grow Up?
I am grown up.
Get a Clue?
Get A Clue about what?
Someone obviously was an under achiever at school and therefore has a Sh!t life and needs to spend time on these Forums.
And Shouldnt you be w@nking over how good MGS4's cut scenes are?
yes i do have a pretty s**t job where i can spend nearly all day on this page and still get paid enough to enjoy doing whatever the hell i want to. at school i passed everything with decent marks. as for living in scotland don't mock it till you try it. peace and quiet all around and no wee f***ys annoying you. unless you live in pollock. i get the impression your a M$ fanboy because all you seem to do is bleat about how good gears is and have been deriding the PS3 and its biggest exclusive so far and also seem to enjoy that there's not many games out for it. when was the last time you had the ps3 or wii on anyway, or are you too busy jacking off to the thought of marcus fenix and the cole train gettin it on.
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
From your last statement I think we've hit the nail on the head:
You were bullied at school by geeks, dweebs & nerds and its still affecting you to this day, you have never been able to get over it and I can understand why, I would be humiliated if I was beaten on a regualr basis by geeks and nerds. Anything that reminds you of them and that period you shut out, you need closure on this. The Samaritans are a good start.
This is how easy REAL wars start, over differences in opinions. Surely we are all one and the same on these forums and should embrace each other as brethren? We all love games, so why all the animosity when this is probably the best time to be a gamer?
*sobs onto a picture of a homeless dog*
EDIT: Sorry, double post. Mind you, I could'nt see for tears.
*wipes face with an eco-friendly tissue*
Marky, I know you enjoy your PS3 and 360 and thats cool, I aint got no issues with people who come on here and add something to the debate, but this Suiv character, he has to wake up and smell the napalm.
I actually think he ruins a lot of threads with his nonsense, and yes they are as bad on both sides of the war, but if you look at who is at top of these threads causing it, hes never to far away.
Sorry StonecoldMC, my reply was written with tongue firmly in cheek and in no way dissing what you are saying. Just trying to lighten the mood somewhat, but instead doing the opposite. That is the problem with these threads. If we were all sat face to face regarding these gaming matters, I am quite sure that for the most part we would all get on and have a laugh. We all have the same hobby afterall.
JohnWalker - your suggesting that Sony *may* start charging for PSN is pure and utter conjecture. I'll add my own bollox with p**s-all to back it up - M$ *may* make XBL free to compete with Sony.
Thanks for that, thankfully you'll see if you read like the 2nd post of the thread that i was actually responding to your bollox with p**s-all to back it up, although posted by Suiv in a slightly different format.
Ah. Yes, you were responding to a question asked earlier so please accept my apologies. Usually these threads are spun out of control from someone mentioning that PSN is free compared to XBL and then it generates into a free-for-all - I'm sure you know the score. You were responding to a question so I'm sorry for my comments, which looking at now were out of order anyway.
I'll just go and squeeze into the mouse hole below my desk now as I feel about 3 inches tall
No problems man, just trying to keep my good name...good...
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?.
Seriously, just no... You can't in any shape or form compare PSN to LIVE. The difference is just vast.
Back on topic, it's about time we had a proper update. Fair enough, this is Sony's first real attempt at an online network but that's no excuse for waiting over a year for what I'd class as basic features to be added. Finally, they should have removed the voice changer. MS learnt all about the drawbacks of that last gen. Then again, barely anyone has a headset for PS3 anyway...
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
From your last statement I think we've hit the nail on the head:
You were bullied at school by geeks, dweebs & nerds and its still affecting you to this day, you have never been able to get over it and I can understand why, I would be humiliated if I was beaten on a regualr basis by geeks and nerds. Anything that reminds you of them and that period you shut out, you need closure on this. The Samaritans are a good start.
This is how easy REAL wars start, over differences in opinions. Surely we are all one and the same on these forums and should embrace each other as brethren? We all love games, so why all the animosity when this is probably the best time to be a gamer?
*sobs onto a picture of a homeless dog*
EDIT: Sorry, double post. Mind you, I could'nt see for tears.
*wipes face with an eco-friendly tissue*
Marky, I know you enjoy your PS3 and 360 and thats cool, I aint got no issues with people who come on here and add something to the debate, but this Suiv character, he has to wake up and smell the napalm.
I actually think he ruins a lot of threads with his nonsense, and yes they are as bad on both sides of the war, but if you look at who is at top of these threads causing it, hes never to far away.
Sorry StonecoldMC, my reply was written with tongue firmly in cheek and in no way dissing what you are saying. Just trying to lighten the mood somewhat, but instead doing the opposite. That is the problem with these threads. If we were all sat face to face regarding these gaming matters, I am quite sure that for the most part we would all get on and have a laugh. We all have the same hobby afterall.
Very well said. I bet over half the guys bitching wouldnt have the bottle to say what they have, and as you said if it were face to face would sit back, have a beer and have a laugh.
Anybody know what the weather is like in Barnsley today?
Wet. Dark. Cold. Overcast.
No it's not it is windy and sunny no hang on it's windy and cloudy no hang on it's windy and wet no hang on it's windy and sunny no hang on it's cloudy no it's sunny no it's wet now
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
sorry, double post. this website sucks, it hangs so often and is really slow!
tell me about it. i posted 3 times on another thread today and the page still didn't load. its f**kin murder some times to have a decent arguement with someone when the pages won't load.
mind you its getting hard to argue with some people with such blinkered views. shiwayb i'm looking at you
I really don't care.
I presume As you live in Scotland it gets pretty boring as nothing happens up north and therefore you have alot of time on your hands to "Argue" over the Internet.
Some of us do have a life...
no i just get bored at work. there's plenty to do. and your the one who started all this with your statement that gears has a great story. you haven't contributed anything to the 2.4 update topic and seem to be more of an xbox fanboy. and for someone who's supposedly spent more than £1800 on 2 US ps3's you seem to be very much in bill gates bottomhole. grow up little kiddie and get a clue.
You get bored at work?
Wow you must have a pretty lame job, and boring and rubbish life and plus you live in Scotland.
LOL.
Wouldnt want to be you...
And if you read the first page you will see i was on topic.
Im not an xbox fanboy, what gave you that impression?
I own all the current consoles...
And Bill Gates?
Isnt he retired?
Grow Up?
I am grown up.
Get a Clue?
Get A Clue about what?
Someone obviously was an under achiever at school and therefore has a Sh!t life and needs to spend time on these Forums.
And Shouldnt you be w@nking over how good MGS4's cut scenes are?
Im afraid that this is just racist. Stop slagging people from the North and Scots off, it shows you up as completley ignorant and lacking in intelligence and imagination.
Anyway, it seems like a long time ago now, but I oiginally asked if anyone had got any new info about the trophies. Whats happening with them?
And whats happened to the forums? They've all been spammed to f*&k!
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
sorry, double post. this website sucks, it hangs so often and is really slow!
tell me about it. i posted 3 times on another thread today and the page still didn't load. its f**kin murder some times to have a decent arguement with someone when the pages won't load.
mind you its getting hard to argue with some people with such blinkered views. shiwayb i'm looking at you
I really don't care.
I presume As you live in Scotland it gets pretty boring as nothing happens up north and therefore you have alot of time on your hands to "Argue" over the Internet.
Some of us do have a life...
no i just get bored at work. there's plenty to do. and your the one who started all this with your statement that gears has a great story. you haven't contributed anything to the 2.4 update topic and seem to be more of an xbox fanboy. and for someone who's supposedly spent more than £1800 on 2 US ps3's you seem to be very much in bill gates bottomhole. grow up little kiddie and get a clue.
You get bored at work?
Wow you must have a pretty lame job, and boring and rubbish life and plus you live in Scotland.
LOL.
Wouldnt want to be you...
And if you read the first page you will see i was on topic.
Im not an xbox fanboy, what gave you that impression?
I own all the current consoles...
And Bill Gates?
Isnt he retired?
Grow Up?
I am grown up.
Get a Clue?
Get A Clue about what?
Someone obviously was an under achiever at school and therefore has a Sh!t life and needs to spend time on these Forums.
And Shouldnt you be w@nking over how good MGS4's cut scenes are?
yes i do have a pretty s**t job where i can spend nearly all day on this page and still get paid enough to enjoy doing whatever the hell i want to. at school i passed everything with decent marks. as for living in scotland don't mock it till you try it. peace and quiet all around and no wee f***ys annoying you. unless you live in pollock. i get the impression your a M$ fanboy because all you seem to do is bleat about how good gears is and have been deriding the PS3 and its biggest exclusive so far and also seem to enjoy that there's not many games out for it. when was the last time you had the ps3 or wii on anyway, or are you too busy jacking off to the thought of marcus fenix and the cole train gettin it on.
Hmm, listen here Weeeeeee Laddy!!!!
You work probably in a office someone on Minimum Wage.
Now MW is good enought for a tramp like yourself living in the empty place known as Scotland, but MW is not for everyone else.
Gears Is Good. The Awards say it all.
Halo 3 is good...
Gears 2 will be good.
Now The PS3 is a brilliant Movie Player.
And MGS4 is just total GARBAGE.
The only two good PS3 games are GT5 and GOD III and f*ck knows when theyll come out (if they ever come out the way SONY go on).
Now how does that make me a 360 Fanboy?
Last time i turned my PS3 on?
Yesterday when i was Watching a Blu-Ray...
I mean i spent £50 on a DualShock 3 Controller but guess what?
NO games to play...
I spent £30 on a nice Sony Ericsson Headset but guess what?
I was bullied at school for being a weedy pathetic outcast, which is why I've been such an bottom to everyone on here.
I'm sorry everyone
Also, my speech about being "a highly respected citizen with 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree", and a person who's "highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there" was just plain embarrasing.
Let's put all of this behind us and make a new start, and start making CvG one of the best and most respected forums on the internet for gamers!
I'm going to leave the ranks of the PS3tards, and become a better person. I swear this to you all right now.
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
sorry, double post. this website sucks, it hangs so often and is really slow!
tell me about it. i posted 3 times on another thread today and the page still didn't load. its f**kin murder some times to have a decent arguement with someone when the pages won't load.
mind you its getting hard to argue with some people with such blinkered views. shiwayb i'm looking at you
I really don't care.
I presume As you live in Scotland it gets pretty boring as nothing happens up north and therefore you have alot of time on your hands to "Argue" over the Internet.
Some of us do have a life...
no i just get bored at work. there's plenty to do. and your the one who started all this with your statement that gears has a great story. you haven't contributed anything to the 2.4 update topic and seem to be more of an xbox fanboy. and for someone who's supposedly spent more than £1800 on 2 US ps3's you seem to be very much in bill gates bottomhole. grow up little kiddie and get a clue.
You get bored at work?
Wow you must have a pretty lame job, and boring and rubbish life and plus you live in Scotland.
LOL.
Wouldnt want to be you...
And if you read the first page you will see i was on topic.
Im not an xbox fanboy, what gave you that impression?
I own all the current consoles...
And Bill Gates?
Isnt he retired?
Grow Up?
I am grown up.
Get a Clue?
Get A Clue about what?
Someone obviously was an under achiever at school and therefore has a Sh!t life and needs to spend time on these Forums.
And Shouldnt you be w@nking over how good MGS4's cut scenes are?
yes i do have a pretty s**t job where i can spend nearly all day on this page and still get paid enough to enjoy doing whatever the hell i want to. at school i passed everything with decent marks. as for living in scotland don't mock it till you try it. peace and quiet all around and no wee f***ys annoying you. unless you live in pollock. i get the impression your a M$ fanboy because all you seem to do is bleat about how good gears is and have been deriding the PS3 and its biggest exclusive so far and also seem to enjoy that there's not many games out for it. when was the last time you had the ps3 or wii on anyway, or are you too busy jacking off to the thought of marcus fenix and the cole train gettin it on.
Hmm, listen here Weeeeeee Laddy!!!!
You work probably in a office someone on Minimum Wage.
Now MW is good enought for a tramp like yourself living in the empty place known as Scotland, but MW is not for everyone else.
Gears Is Good. The Awards say it all.
Halo 3 is good...
Gears 2 will be good.
Now The PS3 is a brilliant Movie Player.
And MGS4 is just total GARBAGE.
The only two good PS3 games are GT5 and GOD III and f*ck knows when theyll come out (if they ever come out the way SONY go on).
Now how does that make me a 360 Fanboy?
Last time i turned my PS3 on?
Yesterday when i was Watching a Blu-Ray...
I mean i spent £50 on a DualShock 3 Controller but guess what?
NO games to play...
I spent £30 on a nice Sony Ericsson Headset but guess what?
i love my 360...but i also have a ps3,and metal gear solid 4 was one of the best games of the year
anyway,anyway.....i wanna know if online with the PS3 is gonna stop with all the agreement stuff?,why do we always have to read and click yes to an agreement with every game we go online with?
..and i am hoping that metal gear online will be the last game that makes us jump through so many hoops to play...WTF was all that Konami sign up crap for???
the real question is 'how long can sony justify giving their service away for free?'.
consider this....what does microsoft actually make? now consider this...what does sony make...apart from mobile phones, tv's, dvd players, computers and stereos.....
work it out...M$ make 1 thing and rip u off into the bargain so sony can make psn free for longer than M$ will get away with charging
the real question is 'how long can sony justify giving their service away for free?'.
consider this....what does microsoft actually make? now consider this...what does sony make...apart from mobile phones, tv's, dvd players, computers and stereos.....
work it out...M$ make 1 thing and rip u off into the bargain so sony can make psn free for longer than M$ will get away with charging
Jesus! You prepubescent boys and your silly bickering. I had to trawl through 5 pages to see just a couple of good points.
Of course the xbox has the advantage at the moment.....it's been around longer than the PS3. On the PS2, it took a year or so before the games started getting good. The same thing will happen with PS3. Same with the online side. It will take a while, but the PS3 will catch up and eventually offer a service as good as or better than microsoft. And, of course, the PS3 is a more powerful machine. When the programmers get the hang of it, it will outclass the xbox.... I guess thats why the xbox fanboys are screaming so loud.
Personally I think that when sony's service equals microsofts they will keep it free for a year or so to encourage people that are undecided which console to buy to opt for PS3, then start charging. Obviously it wont be free for ever....there's too much cash to be made.
Hopefully you will still be able to play online without having to pay the extra, though obviously without all the extra frills. I really dont care about trophies, friend systems or online chat. I have enough friends IRL and going by the drivel in some of these forums I could care less about being able to hear some 12 year old that thinks he's the dog's whatsits being able to call me a tosser because he beat me in a computer game. All I want is to be able to pick up a game, jump online for a couple of hours and have some fun so it's highly unlikely I'm going to pay £40 a year for a few extra features.
I think we should be more worried about DLC. It's bad enough paying £40 for a game without having to pay an extra £20+ for an extra character, new weapon or whatever.
Yes but Sony are basically copying everything off XBL. So it is only a matter of time before PSO is identical to XBL.
How can MS justify a charge? They can't simply, especially when you start seeing MMOG with added chargable monthly fees.
It all adds up.
I love that you basically put the answer in your own post:
"Sony are copying everything off XBL, it's only a matter of time till it's identical, It all adds up".
That's right it all adds up to PSN in all liklyhood becoming a charged for service same as XBL.
They've spend a s**t load of cash catching up with XBL so I imagine they may want to soon re-coup some of that cost. I'll let you do the math: as of 16th May PSN had 8 million registered users so with each paying £40 a year that makes??? That's right a bucket load of cash that Sony would like to have.
Look, if you've owned a 360 from the start, you have incurred a £120 XBL fee to date. So in effect, the 360 costs another £40 for every year you own it.
PS3 of course the service is free. So the price of the console stays at what you paid for it.
Remember, XBL is a vital component of the 360 console and the PS3 console. So charging for it makes the 360 cost £420 sheets if you've had the cursed thing from the start.
Not to mention the emotional cost of having to wait for the Xbox engineers to fix it and send the 200lb monstrosity back to your fooking house.
Sometimes up to 5 times.
Don't talk absolute b******s! Go back to kissing Sony's bottom why dont ya. I have both a PS3 and a 360 and XBL beats PSN hands down even when you pay £35 a year. You can't add the subscription to the total price, its like saying Sky+ costs £772 for the box (£100 for the box plus £56 x 12 for the top package). PSN even with all these added features really can't compare with XBL, plus theres games on PSN that have 2 versions online and offline and you have to pay seperately for both, this is how they charge. Even though its free its not worth even using! Like I said I have both and rarely use PSN whereas me and my mates use XBL are lot more. Ever heard the saying, you get for what you pay for? Well thats certainly true here!
Team ICOs ps3/Shadow of the Colossus 2 project > than blurs of gore 2,gaylo 3 RROD fix me,Killer instinct/insect,Sanjo & crapzooie s**t and trolls,Villa onager/pishata aka pinata crapdice,Gaylo worse,splitter cell/hell aka bulls**t and repairbox 360 aka 3RROD fix me.IMAO hahaha .Delusional Microslaves. Dont worry 2010 you will get the short livespan crapbox 720 pieces of s**t. .Or you can call it EPIC failure box 720RROD in a week. Than you will like babies and ask you why did I bought this Crapbox 10000000000000RROD fix me?
Ah, now i get it Ill sell my 360 buy a PS3 and join you 2 on the PSN, for free.
I understand that you and EpicSonyWin want to get your point across about how Sony are the best and everything else is sh*t but honestly, you are the worst advert for the PS3 and their free PSN ever! Do I want to go online, go into a lobby and see that your there? The PS3 would go through the window first.
Listen pal, I'm a highly respected citizen. I've got 10 GCSE's, 3 A-Levels and a degree.
I'm highly respected by the PSN community and championed by the geeks on there. What is the real problem is YOU and your person falling foul of the xbot emotives that seap out of every keyboard that has Windows software forced upon it.
Do you think you would like Bill Gates if he was in your class at school?
He would be that geek always proving you wrong and be-littling you in front of your peers with his stinking elitist attitude. He would be the one swanning around with his new graphics card and sending you virus's if you crossed him.
Why should a man like him be so revered by xbots?
I tell you now I don't get it. Wake up.
From your last statement I think we've hit the nail on the head:
You were bullied at school by geeks, dweebs & nerds and its still affecting you to this day, you have never been able to get over it and I can understand why, I would be humiliated if I was beaten on a regualr basis by geeks and nerds. Anything that reminds you of them and that period you shut out, you need closure on this. The Samaritans are a good start.
This is how easy REAL wars start, over differences in opinions. Surely we are all one and the same on these forums and should embrace each other as brethren? We all love games, so why all the animosity when this is probably the best time to be a gamer?
*sobs onto a picture of a homeless dog*
EDIT: Sorry, double post. Mind you, I could'nt see for tears.
*wipes face with an eco-friendly tissue*
Marky, I know you enjoy your PS3 and 360 and thats cool, I aint got no issues with people who come on here and add something to the debate, but this Suiv character, he has to wake up and smell the napalm.
I actually think he ruins a lot of threads with his nonsense, and yes they are as bad on both sides of the war, but if you look at who is at top of these threads causing it, hes never to far away.
Sorry StonecoldMC, my reply was written with tongue firmly in cheek and in no way dissing what you are saying. Just trying to lighten the mood somewhat, but instead doing the opposite. That is the problem with these threads. If we were all sat face to face regarding these gaming matters, I am quite sure that for the most part we would all get on and have a laugh. We all have the same hobby afterall.
Very well said. I bet over half the guys bitching wouldnt have the bottle to say what they have, and as you said if it were face to face would sit back, have a beer and have a laugh.
Lighten up!
I own a 360 and a Wii, there I said it. I'm not ashamed or gonna start bitching about another console. I don't like ps3's then I didn't like the ps1 or ps2. Also not gonna slag people off for choosing them. It's a choice, choice is good. Choice forces things to evolve and get better, faster cheaper. Xbox live has been 40 quid for a good while now. Hopefully sony emulating live will make MS make it better and then everyone wins.
Competition good makes companies strive for better products. Take NVIDIA and ATI/AMD, NVIDIA haven’t really done anything in the last few years because ATI haven’t challenged them. Do we really want that in our game consoles?
The reason for the quote was to see how small the quote box would go
I don't mind if they do charge. If they want to compete thoug it'd have to be around the £20 mark. That's still 20x more than free and it's more competition against Live.
This is great. This brings it within touching distance of XBL.
The question is, how long can MS justifiably charge a fee for their online service?
.
the real question is 'how long can sony justify giving their service away for free?'.
no, thats a stupid question. why do you need to justify a free service, and anyway i dont think sony will bring in a charge because i know for a fact if they bring in a charge i wont pay for it, and probably most of the onine users who arent 7 miles up sonys bumhole wont use it either
the latest firmware update has been pulled,version 2.40 which took me hours to install is no longer available due to problems suffered by some users, ive encountered problems too with GTA IV online ,after months of phonecalls to bt over issues with bt home hub and two routers later i got my dreams into reality (GTA on line)only for firmware to go an f**ck thing up.Have i piosned my PS3? whats the next step ? how must x boxers be laughing now
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i'll quit while im ahead.
