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Trophies not retrospective?

Time to dig out those old discs then if you want what's yours
Sony is reported to have said that Trophies patched into old games will not be awarded retrospectively.

The decision to not award Trophies in this way is due to the relative ease of save game sharing on PlayStation 3, according to this.

Had Trophies been retrospective, save game files with everything unlocked could have been easily traded, making it easy for people to cheat the system.

This means that should Naughty Dog patch Uncharted: Drake's Fortune with Trophies, you'll need to go through the game all over again in order to get the points up for grabs from it.

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Who honestly gives a crap if people are going to cheat for a trophy?
So they could do it but won't? F**k that Confused I'm not replaying through games. Though i may put off starting MGS4 again until Wednesday now.
almanac2015 on 30 Jun '08
although im now half way through my 3rd play through of Uncharted (its that good Very Happy ), and I dont mind playing it a 4th time, i can see why many would be angered by this, but as sony said, its for file swapping reasons.

But having to play through GTA IV again, a 30 hour game, no thanks.

as long as call of duty 4 gets it as well as rumble, then ill be a happy gamer.

also, does the in game xmb work whist watching a dvd or blu ray disc? I'd hope so.
HaplessNick on 30 Jun '08
Go through Uncharted again? The man said 'Okay!'.

Games like Uncharted and Ratchet should'nt be too hard to get up to speed as they already have an achievement type system anyway.
Mark240473 on 30 Jun '08
I really don't see what the big deal is. There's already tons of people achievement whoring on XBL, so why punish thousands of honest gamers just because a few idiots place waaaay to much importance on a score that only the individual ultimately cares about?

For me achievements(or trophies) are a nice treat when I do something well in a game, so I'm not fussed if I don't get all of them, because I don't necessarily want to do every last tiny or boring thing in a game (like shooting all the pigeons in GTA4... yawn).

Let the people who want to cheat do so. There are people on XBL for example with the kinds of gamerscores I couldn't reach if I played my 360 24/7 and in no way does that effect my enjoyment or sense satisfaction when I win a new achievement. And if these people tried to blag a career in gaming off the back of their score, well... I think the their true ability would show up pretty quickly...
Mappman on 30 Jun '08
Great news, sony are actually making wise decisions lately Shocked This will give me an incentive to play through my older games again to get my moneys worth. Something which I enjoyed on the 360.
evilfoxhound on 30 Jun '08
This is of cause assuming the old games get patched and I would imagine it would mean starting from scratch from the moment the game is patched not from when 2.4 becomes live.

If you don't want to play mgs4 twice I'd wait until it's updated.
jimmygoogle on 30 Jun '08


If you don't want to play mgs4 twice I'd wait until it's updated.

Since im the only one that's mentioned MGS in this thread i assume this is directed at me. I'm on me 4th playthrough Very Happy Maybe my 5th i forget.
almanac2015 on 30 Jun '08
I have some games that could do with a replay instead of just siting on the shelf, this gives me a good enough reason to do it.
Terranova1 on 30 Jun '08
I hope they patch Uncharted - would be silly if they didn't but it's a good reason to start again and play through. Awesome game.
bigrednumpty on 30 Jun '08
Wait.. i haven't got this wrong have i? So every time a game gets patched, i lose my bastad trophies?
lwill on 30 Jun '08
News-flash. Cheating the system is going to be easy, regardless. Game saves ARE NOT tied to specific Sony Online accounts. Because a user can still download a gamesave, copy it to the PS3 HDD and load that game save, they can get trophies by simply beating the last bosses, etc. Load someone else's Fifa game save, play the last game of a championship and get an easy trophy.

A poorly thought out attempt at competing with achievements and Xbox Live gamerscores. Should have been designed in the OS from the get-go, like the 360.
Reace on 30 Jun '08
Wait.. i haven't got this wrong have i? So every time a game gets patched, i lose my bastad trophies?

Yeah, you've got that completely wrong. You just need a patch for the Trophies to work. Not all games will get patched, as not all games will get trophies. Basically after the update when you enter a throphy compatible game, you'll need to download a patch first.

Still, i think they should've been retrospective. Still, something to do through the games drout through Summer.
NG_21 on 30 Jun '08
Who honestly gives a crap if people are going to cheat for a trophy?
So they could do it but won't? F**k that Confused I'm not replaying through games. Though i may put off starting MGS4 again until Wednesday now.
Because unlike xboxlive psn are rumored to add points toawrd the psn store and rewards in that vein so this avoiding the cheats is 1 wise cause who likes cheats?
and 2 you will feel good about your rewards.
This will be true gaming.
tommygouldbourn on 30 Jun '08
Yes I can see the point in doing this because it is so easy to get saves off the internet but some games i enjoyed the first play through will just pis me off now. For example Resistance, i mean it was good the first time and i played it loads and loads when it had just came out but now iv played COD4 its gonna rouin what i thought of resistance if i have to play through it again... also mentioning COD4, will we have to restart our online accounts somehow to get trophies that we've already passed???
Gray Fox on 30 Jun '08
I really can't be bothered to complete Uncharted on crushing again.
Turner495 on 30 Jun '08
Who honestly gives a crap if people are going to cheat for a trophy?
So they could do it but won't? F**k that Confused I'm not replaying through games. Though i may put off starting MGS4 again until Wednesday now.

Uh...Have you ever heard of Konami before?
Them patching something takes years...not months or weeks...unless they just release a game then its patched before release lol..

Don't expect this "Trophy" system to work with MGS of the bat...Also...Anyone think this Trophy system is too little too late? and just ripping the idea off the Xbox360?

Also...I ain't replaying through old tired games (the few on the ps3 i own) to get some Trophy...
All this is, is a good excuse to replay our old games if we can be bothered...

Ahhh well...Looks like that 1000 I got on drakes won't be awarded...Selling PS3 anyways...
Zedfragg on 30 Jun '08
Really cant be bothered with trophies, i doubt ill go for them in games im playing now, let alone ones ive finished.
DAEDALUS79 on 30 Jun '08
hopefully the trophies system will be done well enough so that you'll be playing and suddenly get a throphie and be like "oh coll" that is what I want
Doom40000 on 30 Jun '08
Really cant be bothered with trophies, i doubt ill go for them in games im playing now, let alone ones ive finished.

I'll sleep tonight.
Mark240473 on 1 Jul '08
who cares about trophies -- without a gamerscore its pointless
dandoc2 on 1 Jul '08
I am guessing with Home trophies will become more relevant since you'll be able to invite people around and show em off (or so I've heard).
funkyjack on 1 Jul '08
Like i'm gonna sit and re play games to unlock some s**te trophys. I really don't see the point in gamerpoints and trophys. Just give us HOME already.
Mightyjinjo on 1 Jul '08
who cares about trophies -- without a gamerscore its pointless


Well actually you kind of do because the amount of trophys you get adds to your level. If anything its proberly more diverse because there's bronze, silver, gold and platinum so it's not as straight forward.
Turner495 on 1 Jul '08
who cares about trophies -- without a gamerscore its pointless


Well actually you kind of do because the amount of trophys you get adds to your level. If anything its proberly more diverse because there's bronze, silver, gold and platinum so it's not as straight forward.

Too right Turner495.
Valdon on 2 Jul '08
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