Sony has issued a response after we learned that the silent delay of PSN title WipEout HD was due to it failing epilepsy tests.
CVG was told on Tuesday this week that WipEout "fails the epilepsy tests so much that it has to be re-engineered," hence the game's absence from E3, despite us having had what appears to be a near complete version for AGES.
Sony has neither confirmed or denied the report, only saying CVG: "Regarding the speculation about health issues, we can assure you that we take consumer safety very seriously and monitor it very carefully."
There's still no estimated release date, or exactly what might be different when the game eventually does see the light of day.
Damn, within touching distance as well. Well at least it is a genuinely good reason for delaying the game and not for any lack of polish. Looking forward to adding WipeoutHD to my bulging hard-drive!
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
You can obviously read, so how did you miss the part in the article that says 'we have had a near complete version in the office for AGES.'?
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
You can obviously read, so how did you miss the part in the article that says 'we have had a near complete version in the office for AGES.'?
Because "near complete" doesn't mean finished & shipped DOES IT, or is your comprehension s**t as well!
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
A warning doesn't stop epilepsy fool...you realise it's not a good thing and that people can have it without knowing, and this could cause quite a bit of damage to those people...
I remember reading of that Pokemon episode in Japan that was banned because it caused 600 epileptic fits amongst kids...
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
You can obviously read, so how did you miss the part in the article that says 'we have had a near complete version in the office for AGES.'?
Because "near complete" doesn't mean finished & shipped DOES IT, or is your comprehension s**t as well!
If you knew anything about Wipout HD you'd know it doesn't have to be shipped...it's a download only.
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
You can obviously read, so how did you miss the part in the article that says 'we have had a near complete version in the office for AGES.'?
Because "near complete" doesn't mean finished & shipped DOES IT, or is your comprehension s**t as well!
Sorry, for a minute, I forgot you were one of the worst offending fanboys on this site. I will now leave you to your trolling.
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
A warning doesn't stop epilepsy fool...you realise it's not a good thing and that people can have it without knowing, and this could cause quite a bit of damage to those people...
I remember reading of that Pokemon episode in Japan that was banned because it caused 600 epileptic fits amongst kids...
If you know you're susceptible to having "fits" then you or your child shouldn't be playing certain types of video games should you k**b-rash.
And at least if there's a clear warning on the box then at least they are legally covered just like the news channels when they pre-warn before a news report is shown that "contains flash photography".
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
A warning doesn't stop epilepsy fool...you realise it's not a good thing and that people can have it without knowing, and this could cause quite a bit of damage to those people...
I remember reading of that Pokemon episode in Japan that was banned because it caused 600 epileptic fits amongst kids...
If you know you're susceptible to having "fits" then you or your child shouldn't be playing certain types of video games should you k**b-rash.
And at least if there's a clear warning on the box then at least they are legally covered just like the news channels when they pre-warn before a news report is shown that "contains flash photography".
Bugger off Tonyb! There is no box as it is a download only!!!!!!!!
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
You can obviously read, so how did you miss the part in the article that says 'we have had a near complete version in the office for AGES.'?
Because "near complete" doesn't mean finished & shipped DOES IT, or is your comprehension s**t as well!
Sorry, for a minute, I forgot you were one of the worst offending fanboys on this site. I will now leave you to your trolling.
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
You can obviously read, so how did you miss the part in the article that says 'we have had a near complete version in the office for AGES.'?
Because "near complete" doesn't mean finished & shipped DOES IT, or is your comprehension s**t as well!
If you knew anything about Wipout HD you'd know it doesn't have to be shipped...it's a download only.
To both of you..."shipped" is a term for getting the product to a point of sale whether in a physical box or for download from a Server, it doesn't mean put it in a dinghy and sale it across the Atlantic ffs!
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
You can obviously read, so how did you miss the part in the article that says 'we have had a near complete version in the office for AGES.'?
Because "near complete" doesn't mean finished & shipped DOES IT, or is your comprehension s**t as well!
Sorry, for a minute, I forgot you were one of the worst offending fanboys on this site. I will now leave you to your trolling.
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
A warning doesn't stop epilepsy fool...you realise it's not a good thing and that people can have it without knowing, and this could cause quite a bit of damage to those people...
I remember reading of that Pokemon episode in Japan that was banned because it caused 600 epileptic fits amongst kids...
If you know you're susceptible to having "fits" then you or your child shouldn't be playing certain types of video games should you k**b-rash.
And at least if there's a clear warning on the box then at least they are legally covered just like the news channels when they pre-warn before a news report is shown that "contains flash photography".
Epilepsy is a serious illness that people can have without realising it and fits can be fatal.
Sony are obviously concerned enough that they feel a warning isn't enough so it can only be a good thing that it is delayed.
Imagine what tools like you would be saying if 1000's of people went into fits from a game that didn't have this sort of testing
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
A warning doesn't stop epilepsy fool...you realise it's not a good thing and that people can have it without knowing, and this could cause quite a bit of damage to those people...
I remember reading of that Pokemon episode in Japan that was banned because it caused 600 epileptic fits amongst kids...
If you know you're susceptible to having "fits" then you or your child shouldn't be playing certain types of video games should you k**b-rash.
And at least if there's a clear warning on the box then at least they are legally covered just like the news channels when they pre-warn before a news report is shown that "contains flash photography".
Epilepsy is a serious illness that people can have without realising it and fits can be fatal.
Sony are obviously concerned enough that they feel a warning isn't enough so it can only be a good thing that it is delayed.
Imagine what tools like you would be saying if 1000's of people went into fits from a game that didn't have this sort of testing
So by your logic, Capcom won't be able to release the new Resi game incase everyone with a heart complaint either known or unknown might have an attack whilst playing? Utter b******s!
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
A warning doesn't stop epilepsy fool...you realise it's not a good thing and that people can have it without knowing, and this could cause quite a bit of damage to those people...
I remember reading of that Pokemon episode in Japan that was banned because it caused 600 epileptic fits amongst kids...
If you know you're susceptible to having "fits" then you or your child shouldn't be playing certain types of video games should you k**b-rash.
And at least if there's a clear warning on the box then at least they are legally covered just like the news channels when they pre-warn before a news report is shown that "contains flash photography".
Here he is with his 'kebab' insults again. 'Kebab-rash' I rather like.
Anyhoo, this 'epilepsy' is a rather silly pointless condition. Imagine you had it, it'd be chaos.
I suspect as little as someone taking a flash photo of you by accident would be enough for you to throw yourself hard to the ground like a sack of sh*t, then start trying to swallow your tongue whilst frothing at the mouth.
So by your logic, Capcom won't be able to release the new Resi game incase everyone with a heart complaint either known or unknown might have an attack whilst playing? Utter b******s!
er, wtf
there is a difference but i guess it would be lost on you
why don't you go back to batting your own reflection and drooling on the keyboard like a good little boy
So by your logic, Capcom won't be able to release the new Resi game incase everyone with a heart complaint either known or unknown might have an attack whilst playing? Utter b******s!
er, wtf
there is a difference but i guess it would be lost on you
why don't you go back to batting your own reflection and drooling on the keyboard like a good little boy
Look if you can't support your argument then don't engage in conversation with the adults..and 90210, you live in Beverley Hills then or just spank over Jay Priestly??
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
A warning doesn't stop epilepsy fool...you realise it's not a good thing and that people can have it without knowing, and this could cause quite a bit of damage to those people...
I remember reading of that Pokemon episode in Japan that was banned because it caused 600 epileptic fits amongst kids...
If you know you're susceptible to having "fits" then you or your child shouldn't be playing certain types of video games should you k**b-rash.
And at least if there's a clear warning on the box then at least they are legally covered just like the news channels when they pre-warn before a news report is shown that "contains flash photography".
Can you not read? I've highlighted the bit you should actually read before arguing...flashing lights can trigger epilepsy, even if you didn't know you were epileptic. You may think you're fine, then have a fit.
Being legally covered is not enough, you actually want to make a safe game, not a game that could put hundreds in hospital.
My God you're stupid...flashing lights cause epilspsy. Seeing a Zombie in an 18 (or 15) rated game won't cause a heart attack unless a f**king zombie jumps out of the TV. A Heart Attack and Epilepsy are too different to compare like that.
If the game can cause possible fits then put a clear and concise warning on the packaging, and then release the f**king game instead of coming up with yet more excuses for delayed product!
A warning doesn't stop epilepsy fool...you realise it's not a good thing and that people can have it without knowing, and this could cause quite a bit of damage to those people...
I remember reading of that Pokemon episode in Japan that was banned because it caused 600 epileptic fits amongst kids...
If you know you're susceptible to having "fits" then you or your child shouldn't be playing certain types of video games should you k**b-rash.
And at least if there's a clear warning on the box then at least they are legally covered just like the news channels when they pre-warn before a news report is shown that "contains flash photography".
Can you not read? I've highlighted the bit you should actually read before arguing...flashing lights can trigger epilepsy, even if you didn't know you were epileptic. You may think you're fine, then have a fit.
Being legally covered is not enough, you actually want to make a safe game, not a game that could put hundreds in hospital.
My God you're stupid...flashing lights cause epilspsy. Seeing a Zombie in an 18 (or 15) rated game won't cause a heart attack unless a f**king zombie jumps out of the TV. A Heart Attack and Epilepsy are too different to compare like that.
Are you a f**king moron or WHAT? Of course a fright from a cut-scene or some t**t jumping unexpectedly through an in-game window can cause a heart attack, try running up behind 10 pensioners this afternoon and screaming "boo, you old t**t!" if you don't believe me and enjoy your day in court for manslaughter.
Look if you can't support your argument then don't engage in conversation with the adults..and 90210, you live in Beverley Hills then or just spank over Jay Priestly??
He is my idol, i style myself on him. To me, he is a god
The difference is that the fits are a direct result of onscreen images where as a heart attack would be an indirect result that would never ever occur. Plus, if you play a game like Resi you pretty much know you are going to get a scare where as any game could be epilepsy inducing in theory.
By your reckoning, all epileptics should be put in a dark room and never allowed to view the wonders of videogame techonology. Good going you facist.
Look if you can't support your argument then don't engage in conversation with the adults..and 90210, you live in Beverley Hills then or just spank over Jay Priestly??
He is my idol, i style myself on him. To me, he is a god
The difference is that the fits are a direct result of onscreen images where as a heart attack would be an indirect result that would never ever occur. Plus, if you play a game like Resi you pretty much know you are going to get a scare where as any game could be epilepsy inducing in theory.
By your reckoning, all epileptics should be put in a dark room and never allowed to view the wonders of videogame techonology. Good going you facist.
How would a rabid dog jumping through a window with wet your pants horror music not be 100% responsible for causing a heart attack? If you play the game for the first time how the f**k do you know what's going to happen and for most it's the scary and s**t your pants atmosphere that's a major selling point.
And I'm sorry, Yes, if you're in serious danger of "fitting" don't play video games, why should 95% of the healthy gameplaying world suffer, PC s**t gone mad yet again.
Are you a f**king moron or WHAT? Of course a fright from a cut-scene or some t**t jumping unexpectedly through an in-game window can cause a heart attack, try running up behind 10 pensioners this afternoon and screaming "boo, you old t**t!" if you don't believe me and enjoy your day in court for manslaughter.
Epilepsy is a condition you fool. A Heart Attack just happens, the only way to avoid it is by eating salad...
Games should all be safe from excessive lights, at least in the options. Epileptics should be able to play games without a large risk of a fit.
Wouldn't normally comment on something like this - but I'm really shocked regarding the unbeliveable 2+2=5 argument that Tony is spouting - almost sociopathic in ithe self interestedness. I've come to expect the bogus "pc gone made" sort of s**te on forums (reactionary ideas are after all pretty hegemonic in these days of growing domination by the few), but come on advocating the release of potential health hazzard!
Clearly, epliepsy tests are important part of video game production process - as it is a potentially dangerous health threat. Surely that should be the end of it.
Are you a f**king moron or WHAT? Of course a fright from a cut-scene or some t**t jumping unexpectedly through an in-game window can cause a heart attack, try running up behind 10 pensioners this afternoon and screaming "boo, you old t**t!" if you don't believe me and enjoy your day in court for manslaughter.
Epilepsy is a condition you fool. A Heart Attack just happens, the only way to avoid it is by eating salad...
Games should all be safe from excessive lights, at least in the options. Epileptics should be able to play games without a large risk of a fit.
What the f**k are you on about? Why do you think it's called a heart condition then, and as for the ignorance of the way to treat a heart condition is to eat salad, well hope you're not a f**king doctor!
Anyway, you wait for it to be "fit proof" and enjoy.
"There's still no estimated release date, or exactly what might be different when the game eventually does see the light of day."
CVG, why didn't you quote the rest of this press release? According to other games sites Sony also said new features were being added in this time, "These include: eight reverse tracks, four extra ships, two alternative HUDS, two-player offline split-screen and XMB Trophy support. We look forward to sharing WipEout HD with you very soon."
Anyway, PC gone mad? No, all this sounds quite sane if these reports are true. Though I do hear they are now calling asylums "care homes". It's madness gone PC.
What the f**k are you on about? Why do you think it's called a heart condition then, and as for the ignorance of the way to treat a heart condition is to eat salad, well hope you're not a f**king doctor!
Anyway, you wait for it to be "fit proof" and enjoy.
I've had more than enough experience with people who have had heart attacks. There's been 4 in my family over the past 10 years. A Heart Attack rarely happens to someone healthy. It is brought about by an unhealthy lifestyle, clogging the arteries, increasing the blood pressure (which clogs the arteries more) until an artery basically clogs up, so blood can't go to the heart. So eat a salad, eat healthy, arteries don't get clogged and the changes of a heart attack happening significantly drop. Why is it that they're so much more likely now? Because we eat crap... Epilepsy on the other hand is not caused by an unhealthy lifestyle. It can't be prevented...
Epilepsy has a trigger-flashing lights. A heart attack doesn't have a specific trigger to avoid, it can be caused by anything which raises blood pressure. So it could be just sitting down, it could be stress. Or it could be being scared. But you know when you are buying a horror game. Take out the fear and you've got bugger all. There's no game genre called "flashing lights". The game has just been delayed for a while so more people can play it which is fair. Removing the threat won't make the game worse..you're just a sad person clinging onto release dates of a game.
As for my ignorance towards a heart condition, you've been posting complete crap all morning about epilepsy.
Look if you can't support your argument then don't engage in conversation with the adults..and 90210, you live in Beverley Hills then or just spank over Jay Priestly??
He is my idol, i style myself on him. To me, he is a god
The difference is that the fits are a direct result of onscreen images where as a heart attack would be an indirect result that would never ever occur. Plus, if you play a game like Resi you pretty much know you are going to get a scare where as any game could be epilepsy inducing in theory.
By your reckoning, all epileptics should be put in a dark room and never allowed to view the wonders of videogame techonology. Good going you facist.
How would a rabid dog jumping through a window with wet your pants horror music not be 100% responsible for causing a heart attack? If you play the game for the first time how the f**k do you know what's going to happen and for most it's the scary and s**t your pants atmosphere that's a major selling point.
And I'm sorry, Yes, if you're in serious danger of "fitting" don't play video games, why should 95% of the healthy gameplaying world suffer, PC s**t gone mad yet again.
You're a total tit, aren't you? You fail to even remotley grasp the fact that certain flashing images can trigger a epileptic fit in people who are perfectly healthy and have never in their lives suffered with epilepsy or are even aware they have the condition. Hell, you cannot even say for certain that you wouldn't have a seizure if you played Wipeout HD in it's current form.
Stop being a complete idiot, grow up and except the fact that the game won't be out until these issues are resolved.
The first WipEout was crazy good, then 2097 pushed the WipEout series to be the best racing series in existance...since then it has just aged so badly (the gameplay, not the graphics). I reckon it will only really be popular with old fans of the first couple in the series. That'll be me then
Look if you can't support your argument then don't engage in conversation with the adults..and 90210, you live in Beverley Hills then or just spank over Jay Priestly??
He is my idol, i style myself on him. To me, he is a god
The difference is that the fits are a direct result of onscreen images where as a heart attack would be an indirect result that would never ever occur. Plus, if you play a game like Resi you pretty much know you are going to get a scare where as any game could be epilepsy inducing in theory.
By your reckoning, all epileptics should be put in a dark room and never allowed to view the wonders of videogame techonology. Good going you facist.
How would a rabid dog jumping through a window with wet your pants horror music not be 100% responsible for causing a heart attack? If you play the game for the first time how the f**k do you know what's going to happen and for most it's the scary and s**t your pants atmosphere that's a major selling point.
And I'm sorry, Yes, if you're in serious danger of "fitting" don't play video games, why should 95% of the healthy gameplaying world suffer, PC s**t gone mad yet again.
Tonyb you are an arrogant stupid idiot!
Many people are susceptible to epilepsy without knowing it. The vast majority of games may well not cause fits in these people. A warning would only benefit those that know they are susceptible to fits and these people should not play games that carry the warning. However a game accidentally causing a fit in someone is completely different from finding out your game has bad enough flicker to likely cause fits in people who do not know they are susceptible. I just hope they release it and you are one of those people! Selfish moron!
Everyone can have a seizure. Epilepsy is the concept of having a lower than normal seizure threshold and being more likely to have seizures. The main causes of lowering the threshold are strokes, tumours and alcohol related but many people are just born with it.
About 2% of the population will have 2 or more seizures in their life.
So, it isn't a small minority of people, it's a lot of people.
Doesn't every game manual have an epilepsy warning in the front cover? This must be pretty extreme if they need to redesign some of the game.
To both of you..."shipped" is a term for getting the product to a point of sale whether in a physical box or for download from a Server, it doesn't mean put it in a dinghy and sale it across the Atlantic ffs!
LOL - the playstation generation probably don't understand the concept!
To the fanboys who seem to think it's Sony doing everyone a favour here....they didn't stop/stall the release of the game in order to 'fix' it or add additional content. All games are tested for photo-sensitive images by an external source. They have obviously flagged the game up and won't allow this to be SHIPPED,
After months of coming on CVG for my latest fix of PS3 news, ive finally decided to join the site after seeing some absolute drivvle and crap spouted by some people. I joined because this topic is relevant for me.
Ive always been a healthy guy, play all kinds of sports, eat healthly etc etc. One day i sat in and played on my Playstation on a new game i had and shortly after when I went to bed, i had an Epileptic fit, which the doctors said i would have died from if it hadnt been for the fact my Aunty walked in and found me. I wasnt allowed to play games, go to discos etc. It just goes to prove that you CAN be healthy and IT COULD happen to you - people who have no idea about the production of a video game, these tests have to be passed you morons. If there were no regulations then we'd have all sorts of crap in this world.
My girlfriends uncle (I Think) died of epilepsy. Its is not to be laughed at, how can any of you condone sony for delaying a game which could effectively KILL people.
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er, wtf
