Valve has dismissed rumours that its upcoming Xbox Live Arcade title Portal: Still Alive will come to PS3's PlayStation Network eventually.
"I'd call that today's rumor," a Valve spokesperson told CVG when quizzed on the subject. Today's rumour, but tomorrow's news, we said. "You're smart to ask. But no," Valve told us.
That's that then. Speaking to Official Xbox Magazine at E3, Valve's Doug Lombardi said on the subject of Still Alive coming to PC, that it was "exclusive to Xbox 360 in 2008." Sounds like that's possible then.
In case you've missed it so far, Still Alive is simply a downloadable version of the excellent Orange Box game complete with extra challenges. There's nothing new in the way of story, but we're willing to pay for it a second time anyway.
Valve is yet to (single-handedly at least) develop for the PlayStation 3. It's next shooter, Left 4 Dead, is out on PC and Xbox 360 at the end of the year.
They're simply developing for a platform that makes sense. It makes sense to them because they're PC developers at the core - and the 360's architecture is extremely similar to a PC. The reason they don't develop themselves for PS3 is because, as Doug has said himself, it's a ridiculously tedious, long and expensive task simply to get the same results as you can get on a PC or 360.
There's no company fanboyism involved, it's simple logistics.
FPS are hardly my cup of tea anyway so stick it where the sun don't shine
Yeah, Portal is SUCH a first person shooter How about you look it up before slagging it off? It has nothing to do with shooting. There are no real enemies, it is a puzzle game played from the first person perspective.
You PS3 fanboys really dont understand gaming at all, do you? If it says 'exclusive' on it and doesnt include the word 'Playstation', then all you care about is taking a dig at it.
I would like to apologise on behalf of normal PS3 owners go and enjoy Portal:Still Alive and forget about the fanboys. Never played Half Life myself but heard Portal is excellent, if it's exclusive it's exclusive. Gamings a big version of swings and roundabouts, you win some, you lose some.
The thing is, people are getting wound up for nothing. Still Alive is simply the original Portal game (which anyone can get for their PS3) bundled with the FREE maps that everyone can get on their PC already.
It's hardly worth the hype or the arguments - and personally I dont think it's worth purchasing - but for those that didn't play Orange Box or don't have a PC to download the extra maps, it's a must-buy.
No seriously, I'm glad they aren't going to put it up on the PSN, because, I pride myself with having purchased nearly 95% of the games available there, and I wouldn't want to have to start hurting that percentage, because I won't put money towards a company like Valve. They can suck off MS' hind-teet all they want. But, I'll never purchase a Valve game...ever.
No seriously, I'm glad they aren't going to put it up on the PSN, because, I pride myself with having purchased nearly 95% of the games available there, and I wouldn't want to have to start hurting that percentage, because I won't put money towards a company like Valve. They can suck off MS' hind-teet all they want. But, I'll never purchase a Valve game...ever.
Morne
Because they don't develop for PS3? You, my friend, are a complete retard. People like you shouldnt be allowed to play games, you make the rest of us look bad. Go and grow some balls.
No seriously, I'm glad they aren't going to put it up on the PSN, because, I pride myself with having purchased nearly 95% of the games available there, and I wouldn't want to have to start hurting that percentage, because I won't put money towards a company like Valve. They can suck off MS' hind-teet all they want. But, I'll never purchase a Valve game...ever.
No seriously, I'm glad they aren't going to put it up on the PSN, because, I pride myself with having purchased nearly 95% of the games available there, and I wouldn't want to have to start hurting that percentage, because I won't put money towards a company like Valve. They can suck off MS' hind-teet all they want. But, I'll never purchase a Valve game...ever.
No seriously, I'm glad they aren't going to put it up on the PSN, because, I pride myself with having purchased nearly 95% of the games available there, and I wouldn't want to have to start hurting that percentage, because I won't put money towards a company like Valve. They can suck off MS' hind-teet all they want. But, I'll never purchase a Valve game...ever.
Morne
thats quite funny actually,as 95% of games on PSN are crap(just like XBLA and VC),and you priding yourself over that percentage is the funniest thing since Stan Marshes(from south park)father being proud of his big turd...we just need some dumbass Bono to take that pride away from you
Like everybody else, they're just trying to make their money - whats wrong with that? I do it everyday and likely so do you. Pick up Orange Box on your next payday and get five games on that - Plus there's a good chance you'll find it in the bargain bin or as pre-owned for on the cheap gaming
Well it is pretty annoying how Valve (and some other devs) like to f**k PS3 owners over like this despite the huge profit they make from us. Just pull your finger out ye lazy bastards.
i may have to see what's up with this Still Alive. Portal was easily the best (and honestly the only) reason to own Orange Box, and i can't wait to see what new challenges they add.
as an aside, i still don't get why Valve has this stubborn hate for PS3. i mean, how much more time and effort do you have to put into porting a 3 year old game to a next-gen system? heck, i'm sure PS2 could've run Orange Box better than that crap EA gave PS3 owners. then you have L4D, which is graphically trumped by about 20 other PS360 games.
i may have to see what's up with this Still Alive. Portal was easily the best (and honestly the only) reason to own Orange Box, and i can't wait to see what new challenges they add
go to the valve forums the answer is there
as an aside, i still don't get why Valve has this stubborn hate for PS3. i mean, how much more time and effort do you have to put into porting a 3 year old game to a next-gen system? heck, i'm sure PS2 could've run Orange Box better than that crap EA gave PS3 owners. then you have L4D, which is graphically trumped by about 20 other PS360 games.
VALVe dont hate the ps3, like others have all ready said and valve them selfs, they dont have any one who knows how to work on a ps3 which is why EA did orange box please go look into things before whining
FPS are hardly my cup of tea anyway so stick it where the sun don't shine
Yeah, Portal is SUCH a first person shooter How about you look it up before slagging it off? It has nothing to do with shooting. There are no real enemies, it is a puzzle game played from the first person perspective.
You PS3 fanboys really dont understand gaming at all, do you? If it says 'exclusive' on it and doesnt include the word 'Playstation', then all you care about is taking a dig at it.
people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones
*edit* p.s i absolutely loath anyone who has the audacity to use the term 'retard' demeaning tw@t
Gamings a big version of swings and roundabouts, you win some, you lose some.
How can you win or lose on swings and roundabouts? =]
No seriously, I'm glad they aren't going to put it up on the PSN, because, I pride myself with having purchased nearly 95% of the games available there
Do you do this with content for games too? ...You is gonna be bolloxed when home comes out aint you. "oOOooo I simply must but this pair of shoes for my avatar!...oh look, these one have white laces....Sexeh!"
Despite 2 price cuts in 2008, XBox 360 sales have stalled at under 20M. XBox Live subscriptions are not improving despite Microsoft's attempts to coerce more silver members into upgrading.
The PlayStation 3 with the free PSN service & Play TV will encourage many more Wii, XBox and PS2 gamers to live on Sony's uber platform 3. Whether EA or someone else handles a conversion, Valve cannot ignore the potential for millions of sales. As the competition to sell magnificent titles on the PS3 heats up, Valve will need to learn the ways of the PlayStation 3 and come with us to the PSN.
thank you drummer4breeze. for a minute there i thought i'd fallen into a twilight zone where people don't actually dislike stuff they think is a waste of time.
They're simply developing for a platform that makes sense. It makes sense to them because they're PC developers at the core - and the 360's architecture is extremely similar to a PC. The reason they don't develop themselves for PS3 is because, as Doug has said himself, it's a ridiculously tedious, long and expensive task simply to get the same results as you can get on a PC or 360.
There's no company fanboyism involved, it's simple logistics.
This is pretty much what I was going to say. I have all three big consoles, and it does annoy me that Sony made the PS3 so hard to develop for again. This is why FFXIII is coming to 360, there's no way Square Enix would sell enough copies on PS3 alone to make back the enormous budget.
I have recently purchased Gran Turismo 5 Prologue for PS3, and while the game's graphics are better than, say, PGR3 (though on par with PGR4), the occasional screen tearing and complete absence of anti-aliasing is very noticeable, even in HD. Why do Sony hate anti-aliasing so much? It makes everything look better. I know Nintendo were pioneers of it in the console world and Sony are perhaps scared of being seen to copy them after the whole Sixaxis thing, but no one will call using anti-aliasing copying, and it's the one good thing to copy. Microsoft did it and no one called it copying. It just makes sense; it makes games look smoother.
You could line up Gabe Newell on one side of a rather large room, and every single PS3 fanboy on the other side, and Mr. Newell's voice would still carry more weight.
When the developer of one of the most critically acclaimed and best selling games series of the last 10 years says one thing, and a bunch of people who are irrationally emotionally involved with their choice of hardware say the other, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see who's right and who's wrong on the subject.
It's a shame really, as these games should ideally be enjoyed by as many people as possible. If the developer says it's not worth to time and effort to make a PS3 version, though, it's not really our place to argue with him.
It seems like Sony are slowly learning their their lesson though. Even Sony's new president said a couple of days back:
Because I was there at the time, the difficulty with PS3 reminds me of our roots. We should work with our partners and find out what consumers and developers want."
If they can stick to that philosophy with the PS4, instead of trying to push their own agenda with no regards for the people they should be appealing to, then maybe we'll see them back on top next time around, and maybe we'll see Valve proudly stating how great the PS4 is, and how they can't wait to put out their next few games on it.
They could have made twice as much money if they released it on both consoles. Square realised this and did something about it. It makes sense to go multiplatform these days, it's where the big money is and all gamers get to play the best games. Everyone wins.
Valve are just lazy old PC developers who fail to move with the times.
Well it is pretty annoying how Valve (and some other devs) like to f**k PS3 owners over like this despite the huge profit they make from us. Just pull your finger out ye lazy bastards.
buy yourself a 360 or PC and problem solved, you dont see me complaining about the fact i have to buy a ps3 to play LBP, MGS4, GT5, etc...
Despite 2 price cuts in 2008, XBox 360 sales have stalled at under 20M. XBox Live subscriptions are not improving despite Microsoft's attempts to coerce more silver members into upgrading.
The PlayStation 3 with the free PSN service & Play TV will encourage many more Wii, XBox and PS2 gamers to live on Sony's uber platform 3. Whether EA or someone else handles a conversion, Valve cannot ignore the potential for millions of sales. As the competition to sell magnificent titles on the PS3 heats up, Valve will need to learn the ways of the PlayStation 3 and come with us to the PSN.
dont be stupid you ignorant fool, valve make so much money from the PC that they dont need the 360 or PS3 to survive. they got to where they are today through the PC and with steam probably making a load of money for all games sold via it, they have something like 15 million users.
They could have made twice as much money if they released it on both consoles. Square realised this and did something about it. It makes sense to go multiplatform these days, it's where the big money is and all gamers get to play the best games. Everyone wins.
Valve are just lazy old PC developers who fail to move with the times.
thats right, having a digital download service for the last 4 or 5 years is being behind the times?
this is a business decision, they would probably need to double their development staff to release games on the ps3. one day they may move to the ps3 but get over it, they arent the only ones and what about devs who only work on the ps3 do you hate them too?
No seriously, I'm glad they aren't going to put it up on the PSN, because, I pride myself with having purchased nearly 95% of the games available there, and I wouldn't want to have to start hurting that percentage, because I won't put money towards a company like Valve. They can suck off MS' hind-teet all they want. But, I'll never purchase a Valve game...ever.
Morne
Your loss buddy, ill just see you change your tune when HL2: Episode 3 rolls around, or Left 4 dead for that matter!
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old hat in an interviw in valvs forums left 4 dead section he said that if a company like ea want to they can stick are game on the ps3 as we dont have the staff who know how to work with one looks like it cant be that bad if there considering left 4 dead on ps3 every thing is only exclusive for a time
Despite 2 price cuts in 2008, XBox 360 sales have stalled at under 20M. XBox Live subscriptions are not improving despite Microsoft's attempts to coerce more silver members into upgrading.
The PlayStation 3 with the free PSN service & Play TV will encourage many more Wii, XBox and PS2 gamers to live on Sony's uber platform 3. Whether EA or someone else handles a conversion, Valve cannot ignore the potential for millions of sales. As the competition to sell magnificent titles on the PS3 heats up, Valve will need to learn the ways of the PlayStation 3 and come with us to the PSN.
So you cant make a profit on 20m user base! your a idiot get over your sad life and forget about it
FPS are hardly my cup of tea anyway so stick it where the sun don't shine
Sony fanboys sure are a misinformed lot... Or at least; this one is.
No seriously, I'm glad they aren't going to put it up on the PSN, because, I pride myself with having purchased nearly 95% of the games available there, and I wouldn't want to have to start hurting that percentage, because I won't put money towards a company like Valve. They can suck off MS' hind-teet all they want. But, I'll never purchase a Valve game...ever.
Morne
Wow the illogical Sony fanboy trend continues. So you won't buy a Valve game - but why? I assume it has nothing to do with the quality of Valve's games because they make some of the most critically acclaimed games and have a portfolio of past games that many other developers would dream of. It must be because they've somehow wronged you- or Sony at any rate.
Oh and Valve doesn't need the Playstation 3. The PC gaming sector has and always will be Valve's main target - they don't even need to develop for the Xbox 360.
Not developing for the console currently in last place isn't failing to 'keep up with the times'.
old hat in an interviw in valvs forums left 4 dead section he said that if a company like ea want to they can stick are game on the ps3 as we dont have the staff who know how to work with one looks like it cant be that bad if there considering left 4 dead on ps3 every thing is only exclusive for a time
It took me a few reads to actually comprehend what you said. Do me and the rest of the forum community a favour; use full stops '.'
i don't mind them not develping for PS3, it's their choice after all, but i just hope they let another company port and publish their games. They are not an excusive to microsoft develper, so i think all consoles should get those games. I just think it's unfair on the gamers who don't get to play these great games just because the company find it too hard to be worth develping for (especially when other companies do it) instead of them being an actually exclusive game to one particular system.
While I can understand the negative kind of view, it completely ignores the logistics of cross-platform production. A friend of mine works at Codies on Dragon Rising ATM. He was saying that the 360 dev kit is small, easy to set up, very easy to use and powerful. The PS3 kit is (like the PS2 incarnation) A huge machine, very powerful, Requires a lengthy and complicated setup procedure of about 60 steps that follow Japanese logic and if you get one step wrong or the order wrong, you have to send the thing back to Japan to have it reset at ridiculous cost. When set up, the dev tools etc. are ridiculously complicated and teams working on it usually spend about 60% more time trying to work out the basics of how to use the thing than any of the other teams coding for other platforms.
Anyone think that some reasons like this might be why people are reluctant to develop for the PS3?
FPS are hardly my cup of tea anyway so stick it where the sun don't shine
Yeah, Portal is SUCH a first person shooter How about you look it up before slagging it off? It has nothing to do with shooting. There are no real enemies, it is a puzzle game played from the first person perspective.
You PS3 fanboys really dont understand gaming at all, do you? If it says 'exclusive' on it and doesnt include the word 'Playstation', then all you care about is taking a dig at it.
Just because he said he doesn't like fps games don't mean he is a fanboy. There seems to be a new breed of fanboy; the ones who seem just as obsessed with naming and attacking sony fanboys as sony fanboys are obsessed with sucking off sony.
There seems to be a new breed of fanboy; the ones who seem just as obsessed with naming and attacking sony fanboys as sony fanboys are obsessed with sucking off sony.
So, there are a "new breed of fanboy" that aren't actually "fanboys", they just attack "fanboys" whenever they post their rabid "fanboy" fantasy rants around these parts?
That sounds awful.
Poor Suivaloom, he had every right to attack and verbally abuse people who didn't think that the PS3 was the second coming of Jesus Christ, and was utterly flawless in it's perfection, why oh why did people react so badly?
Not forgetting that it's the reason we call these "fanboys" "fanboys" is because it's the "fanboys" that start posting personal insults about people when they post any mild criticism of the console, or any game that happens to be exclusive to that system for some reason, of course...
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How about you look it up before slagging it off? It has nothing to do with shooting. There are no real enemies, it is a puzzle game played from the first person perspective.
