Capcom frontman Christian Svensson has said that the PC version of Devil May Cry 4 is being heavily pirated after admitting sales aren't as good as he would like.
"I'm not sure about how Capcom in general feels, but it's not doing as well as I would like in the US at retail," he wrote on the Capcom forums. "It's such a good version and it really deserves better sales.
"I know it's getting pirated to hell and back (it was up on torrents literally the day it shipped)."
Svensson is pushing for digital distribution of both Devil May Cry and other Capcom PC titles, but is encountering resistance from Capcom Japan.
"I have a presentation I'm making shortly that I'm hoping will make that approach something we do with all of our PC content, even those developed in Japan, but no promises. It might not happen."
For the record, there's a significantly increased chance of any of us buying a game if it's available on Steam.
I think DMC 4 was a really good port (when played with a 360 controller) and it used the strengths of the platform well.
The idiots that pirate games give Capcom even less reason to bother porting over their stronger franchises like Resident Evil, and the PC has bugger all Japanese games to begin with.
I extremely dislike people that pirate and buy pirated games. They should be ashamed of stealing money from developers that have been slaving away on a game for two years. Money that the developers need to feed themselves and their family.
i bet in your life you've copied some music you didnt own. same thing as this but it's the music industry that suffers but nobody gives a toss about that. now stop calling yourself names
I honestly believe that the vast majority that downloaded this via torrents wouldn't have bought it anyway but that doesn't get away from the fact that piracy, especially on the PC is a major problem and one that I think is making a large number of devs think twice about producing anything on the PC. Sad really as it's a great format to play games on.
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game (movie, music, software). This is because no one loses due to the fact you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). However it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download for free.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
if you can get it for nothing you will,won't you? it's human nature.
i'm a console gamer and have the game for 360 before anyone starts pointing fingers but i'd certainly consider a cracked version if the option was open to me-if only for legendary dark knight mode.
what's worse than this is hardcore pc gamers whinging about the difficulty and looking for trainers/cheats: pussies.
put a bit of effort in,given the piracy situation it could be the last game of this ilk that you see in a while.
thinking on,is the piracy sitch' the reason there's no pc version of force unleashed?
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game. As no one loses because you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). For it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
I hope you're kidding. You're an enormous dumbass if you're not.
They release a PC port five months after they release the console versions and still expect it to sell well? That, and they then try and to assume that an illegal download is the same as lost sale, which is about as inaccurate as you can get.
It's not being pirated any worse than any other game out there. The fact that it was available to download on the day of release surprises me.......it's usually available at least a week before.
All platforms are pirated, not just the PC. I'm not condoning it in anyway, but would suggest that perhaps a couple of reasons it isn't selling particularly well is because, like someone else said, it got so so reviews. Plus, this type of game is geared more towards a console audience (that's not a criticism, before anyone jumps down my throat).
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game. As no one loses because you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). For it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
I hope you're kidding. You're an enormous dumbass if you're not.
well guess what am not. Obviously correct was probably a too strong a word to use in such a situation. But the point still stands that no one loses if the downloader was never going to purchase the game.
put it on steam and charge a decent price. Piracy problem severely reduced...
" bullsh*t Mr han man, you come right out of a comic book "
Enter the dragon me thinks or was it Way of the Dragon??
Enter the dragon
Lol...yeah thought so, was that guy with the enormous 'fro if i remember rightly. Top line from a top film... pity he got wiped out just after saying it.
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game. As no one loses because you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). For it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
I hope you're kidding. You're an enormous dumbass if you're not.
well guess what am not. Obviously correct was probably a too strong a word to use in such a situation. But the point still stands that no one loses if the downloader was never going to purchase the game.
I'm not going to, and never will buy a XBox 360. So it's ok if I steal one? I'm not going to buy that game, I'm not really a fan of the genre. But you say it's ok to download and play it anyway?
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game. As no one loses because you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). For it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
I hope you're kidding. You're an enormous dumbass if you're not.
well guess what am not. Obviously correct was probably a too strong a word to use in such a situation. But the point still stands that no one loses if the downloader was never going to purchase the game.
Yeah you've got a point in that no revenue is lost if it gets downloaded by someone who had no intention of buying it in the first place.
Unfortunately if everyone took that attitude then why would anyone buy it when they could download a pirated copy for nothing. It would then come down to peoples morals and conscience which I'm afraid is usually over-ruled by their pockets when it comes to games, music, films etc
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game. As no one loses because you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). For it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
I hope you're kidding. You're an enormous dumbass if you're not.
well guess what am not. Obviously correct was probably a too strong a word to use in such a situation. But the point still stands that no one loses if the downloader was never going to purchase the game.
It's equally bad! Either way, you are playing a game for no money, it's terrible. If you don't want to pay for a game...rent it or don't get it in the first place. If you play the game without paying the developers are losing out either way.
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game. As no one loses because you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). For it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
I hope you're kidding. You're an enormous dumbass if you're not.
well guess what am not. Obviously correct was probably a too strong a word to use in such a situation. But the point still stands that no one loses if the downloader was never going to purchase the game.
Yeah you've got a point in that no revenue is lost if it gets downloaded by someone who had no intention of buying it in the first place.
Unfortunately if everyone took that attitude then why would anyone buy it when they could download a pirated copy for nothing. It would then come down to peoples morals and conscience which I'm afraid is usually over-ruled by their pockets when it comes to games, music, films etc
Thats utter bull.
How do you know that someone else wasnt going to but it for you?
You can never know 100% that you wouldnt buy a game! You might see it in the shop months later on cut-price and pick it up!
How about we download torrents and then send the developers how much we think the game is worth? That way we aren't getting it for free, and they aren't getting vast sums of money for another s**tty consoley game that I wouldn't even want to play, legally or not, because its another lame ass japanese anime over the top with trying to be cool and fashionable bulls**t that anyone with any sense doesn't give a s**t about.
Having played this exceptionally bad port for myself I believe the low sales is not due to piracy, but because the game itself is crap.
Upon loading there are very few options to enhance the graphics, the game also assumes that if you own a PC you own a 360 pad and as such the controls are pitiful.
It's repetitive and boring, a horrific port and the gameplay is obviously too low-brow for PC gamers.
It may appeal to 15 year old console owners playing on their settee... It was a bad idea to bring such low brow gameplay to the PC in the first place.
It really doesn't matter either way. We can argue on this thread between ourselves until we're blue in the face, it won't make a jot of difference to those people who are going to download it from torrent sites regardless (and I doubt everyone is as innocent an angel as they'd like to make out anyway).
Really, we'll only be having this discussion this time next year anyway (to no avail), if piracy is really going to be stopped (and god knows they've been trying long enough) only the industry has the monetary muscle and know how to make it happen.
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game. As no one loses because you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). For it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
I hope you're kidding. You're an enormous dumbass if you're not.
well guess what am not. Obviously correct was probably a too strong a word to use in such a situation. But the point still stands that no one loses if the downloader was never going to purchase the game.
Yeah you've got a point in that no revenue is lost if it gets downloaded by someone who had no intention of buying it in the first place.
Unfortunately if everyone took that attitude then why would anyone buy it when they could download a pirated copy for nothing. It would then come down to peoples morals and conscience which I'm afraid is usually over-ruled by their pockets when it comes to games, music, films etc
Thats utter bull.
How do you know that someone else wasnt going to but it for you?
You can never know 100% that you wouldnt buy a game! You might see it in the shop months later on cut-price and pick it up!
Thanks for your positive contribution.
If someone else bought you a game you already had in pirated form, then I assume they'd take it back to the shop and swap it for a title they didn't already have.
And I can't think of too many people (apart from you by the sounds of things) that would download and play a game and then see that title in the shops and purchase it, it just doesn't make sense to do that.
just wondering for example i download the latest siren game on the ps3. i don't have a disk, it's on my machine and registered to my machine. how can this be pirated? any answers? if there are no answers surely this is the way to go to avoid piracy. the only drawback as a consumer is i don't have anything to sell on in the second hand market.
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game. As no one loses because you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). For it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
I hope you're kidding. You're an enormous dumbass if you're not.
well guess what am not. Obviously correct was probably a too strong a word to use in such a situation. But the point still stands that no one loses if the downloader was never going to purchase the game.
Yeah you've got a point in that no revenue is lost if it gets downloaded by someone who had no intention of buying it in the first place.
Unfortunately if everyone took that attitude then why would anyone buy it when they could download a pirated copy for nothing. It would then come down to peoples morals and conscience which I'm afraid is usually over-ruled by their pockets when it comes to games, music, films etc
Ahhh yes i know what you mean and i am not trying to condone them people who think of their pockets before anything else. who i am trying to condone are the people who support the developers of the games they enjoy and not just download anything and everything willy nilly.
For you evengelical pirate hating people. I have one point to make:
If you have ever copied a friends MP3, recorded anything from television to video, installed a friends software on your computer, copied a tape or recorded something off the radio, if you have ever posted someone elses picture to your facebook page or taken part in any of the other completely innocuous breach of copyright eveyrone does on a regular bases, you can get off your high horse and start discussing this like the rational adults I assume some of us are.
So? What's stopping you? I pirate games all the time and have subsequently bought a lot of them when the price is more like what I'd consider reasonable for the product.
And you evengelical pirate hating people. I have one point to make:
If you have ever copied a friends MP3, recorded anything from television to video, installed a friends software on your computer, copied a tape or recorded something off the radio, if you have ever posted someone elses picture to your facebook page or taken part in any of the other completely innocuous breach of copyright eveyrone does on a regular bases, you can get off your high horse and start discussing this like the rational adults I assume some of us are.
just wondering for example i download the latest siren game on the ps3. i don't have a disk, it's on my machine and registered to my machine. how can this be pirated? any answers? if there are no answers surely this is the way to go to avoid piracy. the only drawback as a consumer is i don't have anything to sell on in the second hand market.
Woudn't you be able to get around it by possibly changing the registration on your machine to the same as say someone who has downloaded it. Then just transfer it over via hardrive or some other way. Also if that was possible you probably woudn't be able to have it hooked up to the internet.
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game. As no one loses because you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). For it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
I hope you're kidding. You're an enormous dumbass if you're not.
well guess what am not. Obviously correct was probably a too strong a word to use in such a situation. But the point still stands that no one loses if the downloader was never going to purchase the game.
Yeah you've got a point in that no revenue is lost if it gets downloaded by someone who had no intention of buying it in the first place.
Unfortunately if everyone took that attitude then why would anyone buy it when they could download a pirated copy for nothing. It would then come down to peoples morals and conscience which I'm afraid is usually over-ruled by their pockets when it comes to games, music, films etc
Thats utter bull.
How do you know that someone else wasnt going to but it for you?
You can never know 100% that you wouldnt buy a game! You might see it in the shop months later on cut-price and pick it up!
If you download it then surely you want it. If you want it then buy it you cheap s**t!
Having played this exceptionally bad port for myself I believe the low sales is not due to piracy, but because the game itself is crap.
Upon loading there are very few options to enhance the graphics, the game also assumes that if you own a PC you own a 360 pad and as such the controls are pitiful.
It's repetitive and boring, a horrific port and the gameplay is obviously too low-brow for PC gamers.
It may appeal to 15 year old console owners playing on their settee... It was a bad idea to bring such low brow gameplay to the PC in the first place.
Piracy will kill pc gaming, its effects are already being witnessed now.
No leaving large gaps between ports or releasing a game in different countrys at different times will kill pc gaming (tho this isn't going to happen since the pc has the largest user base out of any gaming platform)
Piracy gave birth to Steam and digital distribution, iTunes and many other services which consequently led to XBL marketplace, PSN store and the virtual console. The sheer volume of Steam users and iPod owners should speak for itself.
Devs and distributors need to embrace technology, adopt digital distribution and stop treating the PC like a console.
The similarity to 360 architecture means PC gaming is probably at its strongest position for years. Add to that the definitive version of every major 360 release for the last few years.
As for poor DMC4 sales; probably due to a poor console-orientated conversion, on the wrong platform with no digital distribution. Exactly the same reasons DMC3 sold poorly on the PC.
if you can get it for nothing you will,won't you? it's human nature.
i'm a console gamer and have the game for 360 before anyone starts pointing fingers but i'd certainly consider a cracked version if the option was open to me-if only for legendary dark knight mode.
what's worse than this is hardcore pc gamers whinging about the difficulty and looking for trainers/cheats: pussies.
put a bit of effort in,given the piracy situation it could be the last game of this ilk that you see in a while.
thinking on,is the piracy sitch' the reason there's no pc version of force unleashed?
the official word from Lucasarts on the matter.
"If we made the game for high-end PCs], someone with a low-end PC would have a watered down experience, they would have to turn all the settings down and it wouldn’t be the same game. On the other hand if we made that game for as many people as possible then it’s not taking advantage of what those $4,000 systems can do."
Piracy gave birth to Steam and digital distribution, iTunes and many other services which consequently led to XBL marketplace, PSN store and the virtual console. The sheer volume of Steam users and iPod owners should speak for itself.
Devs and distributors need to embrace technology, adopt digital distribution and stop treating the PC like a console.
The similarity to 360 architecture means PC gaming is probably at its strongest position for years. Add to that the definitive version of every major 360 release for the last few years.
As for poor DMC4 sales; probably due to a poor console-orientated conversion, on the wrong platform with no digital distribution. Exactly the same reasons DMC3 sold poorly on the PC.
I agree with you that some form of digital distribution is the way forward but I also think the problem of PC piracy is more of a culture problem in that many see absolutely nothing wrong with downloading games & apps. and using/playing them for nothing.
As an example, I recently purchased the latest 64Bit version of Cubase for PC for £400. The guys at work said I was crazy and they could have downloaded me a de-dongled version for nothing and they're not even what you might call hardcore PC users.
Anyone who thinks that torrents and piracy won't affect future PC gaming as it stands is sadly mistaken.
Piracy will kill pc gaming, its effects are already being witnessed now.
Not being able to install/run Pc games I've paid money for has put me off Pc gaming(I buy all my games on 360 now).
What it all comes down to is projected sales figures. If they meet them all is well, but if they don't? Well, it must have been something external, like piracy.
And I'm pretty sure COD4 has been pirated a hell of a lot more than this game has been, and it's still selling by the truck load.
Right, so it's not that it's a s**t port, it's just all the naughty pirates targeting Capcom. As long as we're all clear on the situation, f**king dicks.
I extremely dislike people that pirate and buy pirated games. They should be ashamed of stealing money from developers that have been slaving away on a game for two years. Money that the developers need to feed themselves and their family.
STFU you hippy, they are happy to steal money from us, so i would be happy to steal money from them, and what are you on about "they need to feed their family". They still get millions, so dont give me that s**t.
piracy on computers has been going on for years (way before we were all online) its nothing new and hasent killed pc gaming yet ,i doubt it ever will , as for dmc4 i think its a cop out for them to blame piracy for bad sales as its the same for every game sold on pc ,a percentage will pirate , most will not
I extremely dislike people that pirate and buy pirated games. They should be ashamed of stealing money from developers that have been slaving away on a game for two years. Money that the developers need to feed themselves and their family.
STFU you hippy, they are happy to steal money from us, so i would be happy to steal money from them, and what are you on about "they need to feed their family". They still get millions, so dont give me that s**t.
Capcom steal your money?
So just because Capcom get millions elsewhere, its alright to steal?
What about the coders of these games, don't they deserve the money?
I bet quite a lot of sales are lost from people who buy on impulse, who now instead just download on impulse.
It is not the same as downloading a song. A single song costs around a pound and a full fledged game has the value of £30 on release.
Piracy will kill pc gaming, its effects are already being witnessed now.
Please.......
Game copying was done as far back as the spectrum, i remember trading amiga floppies with my friends when i was a little nipper, piracy has always been around, put out a good product and it sells well
I extremely dislike people that pirate and buy pirated games. They should be ashamed of stealing money from developers that have been slaving away on a game for two years. Money that the developers need to feed themselves and their family.
STFU you hippy, they are happy to steal money from us, so i would be happy to steal money from them, and what are you on about "they need to feed their family". They still get millions, so dont give me that s**t.
I extremely dislike people that pirate and buy pirated games. They should be ashamed of stealing money from developers that have been slaving away on a game for two years. Money that the developers need to feed themselves and their family.
STFU you hippy, they are happy to steal money from us, so i would be happy to steal money from them, and what are you on about "they need to feed their family". They still get millions, so dont give me that s**t.
I extremely dislike people that pirate and buy pirated games. They should be ashamed of stealing money from developers that have been slaving away on a game for two years. Money that the developers need to feed themselves and their family.
STFU you hippy, they are happy to steal money from us, so i would be happy to steal money from them, and what are you on about "they need to feed their family". They still get millions, so dont give me that s**t.
Piracy will kill pc gaming, its effects are already being witnessed now.
Please.......
Game copying was done as far back as the spectrum, i remember trading amiga floppies with my friends when i was a little nipper, piracy has always been around, put out a good product and it sells well
Not to mention I doubt it will be long before we see one of the consoles fall to piracy, which isnt to say there isnt console piracy around atm, there is. Hell, the way it seems to be going on the next PS or XBox you'll probably actually be able to actually get on to a torrent site with a little workaround, and DL an iso on to your consoles HDD and play it from there.
Big suprise, i mean afterall who dosnt do that now with pc games? im suprised they bother even releasing them now in boxed retail copies, why not simply download them and make them uncrackble, so that they cant be copied and uploaded.
Just search any bittorrent sites and you will get any game you want.
The_Hun1 does not think piracy is a good thing and or uses bit torrent sites to download games, only tv shows that our crappy chanels mess about with and also for ipod use.
Piracy is correct when you have no intention of purchasing the game (movie, music, software). This is because no one loses due to the fact you were never going to purchase said game (movie, music, software). However it is wrong when it stops a person purchasing said game (movie, music, software) and instead they download for free.
For it is those type of people that ruin it for the rest of us.
That's all well and good, but I can't stop staring at camp Spider-Man.
Piracy is never correct, if the game's not good enough to buy then it shouldn't be good enough to play. Spend your time with a better game that's worth buying or with another more rewarding activity instead.
Piracy exists on consoles just as much, heck it's one of the reasons the Playstation became that popular, it was easier to get pirated games on it than previously, what with it being a CD based system. The Saturn had that also but it was harder to pirate games for it.
Blaming piracy for lower sales is more or less correct but blaming it for low sales is not. Blame the game, the quality of the port, the appeal of the game to the audience you try to sell it to and the marketing for that. DMC4 PC fails in all accounts.
I have seen digital delivery games cracked and hacked also. Pirate copies of Steam HL2 are available.
I believe a lot of peopel suffer with what I call 'sweetshop' syndrome.
They see all these lovely games for download and like a little kid in a sweetshop, want one of everything and so get a whole bunch downloading. However, they probably know nothing about them and don't even bother with reviews etc. They load 'em up and play and find the game is no good or not to their liking and it gets put in the corner with the pile of other discs they no longer use.
I'm not condoning piracy but I reckon the 'stats' that everyone bandies around are probably not a true correalation to lost sales for these reasons.
Sure, they do get some they like and play through and that is a potetial lost sale. But would pirates buy a game if it was good and they were enjoying the one they downloaded?
Maybe, but if two or three good games come out in close proximity I doubt they would get all of them as originals as they always use the old chesnut of prices being to high as their justification, which of course is total rubbish.
If you can't afford it, you can't have it, that's how I was brought up and believe people are losing such values rapidly these days.
Consoles also get pirated, don't know what the stats would be though. Don't even know if there are any stats that are relative to the amount of people that own each type of hardware. I presume that figures are based on copies sold relative to the size of user base?
These debates, arguments etc will always go on, but the fact I believe that most strongly affects a games 'success' is its quality.
There is no excuse these days for the purchaser to buy rubbish as there is an overwhelming amount of reviews available and it just takes a bit of research, magazines and internet sites are awash with reviews.
Piracy will kill pc gaming, its effects are already being witnessed now.
thinking on,is the piracy sitch' the reason there's no pc version of force unleashed?
the official word from Lucasarts on the matter.
"If we made the game for high-end PCs], someone with a low-end PC would have a watered down experience, they would have to turn all the settings down and it wouldn�t be the same game. On the other hand if we made that game for as many people as possible then it�s not taking advantage of what those $4,000 systems can do."
what bs
So, that basically means we'll get a crappy port a couple of months later... Though I don't really care about this game, doesn't look like much, also the graphics aren't very good either. Maybe they'll upgrade it for the PC. I'd rather see a proper Jedi Knight sequel.
... PC games still sold in quantities 5 to 10 times what PC games sell today!
Take a leaf out of history, put a little more effort, imagination and story-telling into the packaging and PC gaming might rise back to the status of 'hobby' rather than the lowly 'past-time' it has become.
....And with better packaging and more of a game 'investment' by gamers, maybe piracy would drop and sales would rise?!
I doubt a better manual or other changes in packaging would ever help PC gaming. People are gonna pirate it anyway regardless of 'generic packaging'. If someone pirates a game that came with extra content, maps, manuals, whatever could all be got off the internet or even in the damn torrent the pirate used with so much ease - which isnt to say i agree with how packaging is now, but its very wrong to assume that if it went back to what it was there would be less piracy and more sales.
How much more successful would PC gaming be today if on console the game was in a boring DVD case with 14 manual written like a technical manual, and PC games came in proper boxes with added features in the box?!
Ill be honest, I dont think that would make PC gaming much more successful. PC gaming would be more successful if producers actually made *PC GAMES* not console games ported to PC. I'd take a full length Deus Ex 1 mod over the next yawnworthy console port or its ilk. This article over DMC4 is a perfect example. It didnt sell well because it sucks for the PC, not because the PC is a bad platform.
Also, I hate to break it to you, but PC gaming was never at the status of 'hobby' in the public eye. Heck, until the last batch of consoles, niether was gaming in general. Just ask the Daily Mail .
well, lets face it DMC4 was always going to sell more on the Console then it was on the PC. Chances are most PC gamers also have consoles and probably have the game on them already. Why would they need to buy it for the pc?
Second i suppose piracy would cause a dent in sales. Just not sure how great the influence would be. On one hand, the small numbers who are prepared to get it on the PC are probably going to be pirating it. Although it might be the opposite where the majority are prepared to buy it, but that majority was small to begin with.
I suppose theres the alienation issue. Console based success never translate to success on the pc. A bad port usually makes sure of that. Case in poinr RE4. Who ever ports them are absoluely clueless/lazy or both as to how they would transfer the game successfully. Unless you have a joypad you're in trouble. Even then, calibrating and setting up the buttons will be quite difficult and it becomes trial and error.
I download games, but only as full game demos. The first time I did it was several years ago, and it was CoD1. I finished it 7 times before purchasing it for $100. That's how much it costed after shipping charges, but I still got it. And after steam was released, I bought more games than most of you people have, legally (yeah bitches).
I'm currently downloading a game which, if is good enough I'll buy today. BTW, I've never downloaded any DMC game because I personally think they're all crap.
I always saw Devil may cry as a rich mans tekken anyway. I wouldn't buy it or pirate it because to the honest. i couldn't care less about it. I'm not going to lie and say i've never pirated a game, but i mainly did so to see if the game was any good and the often turned out to be crap. Ever since i was scammed into buying four delta force games at once i have been very cautious
The game, music and film industries kinda have themselves to blame. They absolutely milked us when piracy wasn't quite so easy.
Back in the Megadrive and SNES days some games were £60 or more, I remember my mate paying more than £80 for some games on SNES.
Lets be honest here we've all paid more than we should have for games, movies or music over the years, and a lot of it was absolute garbage that wasn't worth the packaging it came in. The entertainment industry was more than happy to churn out mediocre quality products, and overcharge us for them. So I have little sympathy for them now that the boot is firmly on the other foot.
Consumers are more clued up these days, and its getting harder to sell the same old rope to them, and the industry doesn't like that, they'd rather we just blindly bought anything that they release. And if we don't then blame piracy.
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