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Sega boss warns of Wii's "flood of crap"

"There is a lot of crap coming out for the Wii in general," says Sega boss, but reckons it'll die down soon
The Wii games library is becoming flooded with "crap", Sega president Simon Jeffery has warned, adding that the console is a "great opportunity" for hitting hardcore gamers.

The Sega of America boss said that the wave of poor quality games on Wii will die down "as publishers become more coherent."

"The Wii is a very cost effective platform to experiment with," he said. "There is a lot of crap coming out for the Wii in general.

"If it's not a good game, it doesn't sell. That flood of crap will die down as publishers become more coherent," he added, speaking to Venture Beat.

Sega has been one of the Wii's biggest third-party success stories, albeit with the help of a Nintendo mascot; Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games is expected to clear 7 million units this year.

Jeffery feels that the Wii's current library doesn't satisfy hardcore gamers, but reckons that Platinum Games' super-violent MadWorld will fill some of the void.

"The Wii is a great opportunity for hitting hardcore gamers," he said. "No one is doing that. With MadWorld from Platinum Games, we are trying to show that millions of Wii gamers want to move on to mature games. They don't have to have an Xbox 360 to do that."

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Letme guess Mr Jeffery, your favourite past-time is stating the obvious?

Of course the Wii is flooded with crap. My missus wanted to buy some random, crappy looking game that I'd never heard of before when we went into Gamestation the other day. Game never heard of + missus wanting to buy it = Game that will be s**t. Simple maths Watson. Without me there to stop her she would have added to the deluge of idiots (she's an idiot) that buy into s**t because "The screenshots looks good on the back of the case".

(I love her really)
MPH on 15 Aug '08
There was a complete flooding of crap on the PS2 as well, which as it stands, is the best selling console to date.

Go figure that one out SEGA. I honestly can't see the crap games dying down until very late in the consoles life. The crap games worked out in Sony's favour, why can't they do so for the Wii?

It's just that the casual gamer will buy these crap games, thinking that they are good, because of the platform that they are on and the consoles success.
roynluc on 15 Aug '08
He's right of course, but its not a new thing. The dominant platform always has loads of utter garbage in its library of games. Take your pick from any of the market leaders over the years.
svensk101 on 15 Aug '08
"The Wii is a great opportunity for hitting hardcore gamers," he said. "No one is doing that. With MadWorld from Platinum Games, we are trying to show that millions of Wii gamers want to move on to mature games. They don't have to have an Xbox 360 to do that."

What about the PS3? Are you 'forgetting' about that just like your long lost SEGA room?
mfnick on 15 Aug '08
If a game is crap then it's crap, it shouldn't matter whether its hardcore or casual, you can't say all casual games are crap. btw the Wii versions of Ironman and the Incrdible Hulk say hello, Sega.
YCshinobi on 15 Aug '08
Maybe Sega should look at their own games cause Im sure their on that list lol

That new sonic game better be good Sega, I am giving Sonic one more chance
wadey123 on 15 Aug '08
Strange, I've been talking about that since the console released. And I've repeatedly been proven right.

Case in point: Ninjabread Man. Someone in my family bought me the PC version as a p**s-take. I never installed it because I have principles Smile
But I read the reviews and sensibly never touched it.

Next thing I know, the Wii is getting a port. Shock.

They release crap because even if only 1% of Wii owners buy a copy, that's a massive profit for no effort. There's just no way to stop it.

I miss the Seal of Quality.
Dajmin on 15 Aug '08
And if anyone should know about "Floods of Crap"...its Sega!.. they've created oceans of the stuff!..
hollywood111 on 15 Aug '08
Yay about time someone big in the games industry stated the obious, its just a shame none of them have the guts to name and shame the lazy companies responsible!
seancuk23 on 15 Aug '08
Whereas the Dreamcast had a slow steady trickle of A+ games and then the river ran dry.....
philgreaaaaaaaat on 15 Aug '08
...then again who wanted to drink from the Dreamcast river when the rotting carcasses of the Saturn, 32x and Sega CD were fouling it not too far upstream...
philgreaaaaaaaat on 15 Aug '08
Letme guess Mr Jeffery, your favourite past-time is stating the obvious?

You can't put him in the same light as an analyst. He's just making a comment, not making a prediction or anything.

What about the PS3? Are you 'forgetting' about that just like your long lost SEGA room?

Haven't you heard the new fad memo? Games don't sell on ps3 for third party games.

Anyway, I couldn't care any less than I do right now about what sega say. The day they neglected to continue the Shenmue saga, I stopped giving a shit.
colonel whiskers on 15 Aug '08
Aren't Sega responsible for some of the drivel on the Wii?
nick_gc on 15 Aug '08
...then again who wanted to drink from the Dreamcast river when the rotting carcasses of the Saturn,

Take that back or i'll kill the cute little kitteh
mfnick on 15 Aug '08
...then again who wanted to drink from the Dreamcast river when the rotting carcasses of the Saturn,

Take that back or i'll kill the cute little kitteh

It was though, I'm not knocking the system as such just the way they handled it. It died, it decayed, it should have flourished.....I'll live a hundred lifetimes before I can wrap my head around what those guys did.
philgreaaaaaaaat on 15 Aug '08
...then again who wanted to drink from the Dreamcast river when the rotting carcasses of the Saturn, 32x and Sega CD were fouling it not too far upstream...
you dirty bastard. i still have my saturn and its as fresh as ever. it keeps me warm at night.
ensabahnur on 15 Aug '08
...then again who wanted to drink from the Dreamcast river when the rotting carcasses of the Saturn,

Take that back or i'll kill the cute little kitteh

It was though, I'm not knocking the system as such just the way they handled it. It died, it decayed, it should have flourished.....I'll live a hundred lifetimes before I can wrap my head around what those guys did.
they relied on previous greatness and didn't realise that everyone was worshipping at the great altar of sony. plus they released it too early.
ensabahnur on 15 Aug '08
He's right though more decent hardcore titles are needed, I'm really enjoying Resi 4 on the Wii as an example, and it's the first game I've really loved on the Wii.
Dirtyrat on 15 Aug '08
He's right though more decent hardcore titles are needed, I'm really enjoying Resi 4 on the Wii as an example, and it's the first game I've really loved on the Wii.

get Okami, that's about as hardcore game-where-you-play-a-god-as-a-wolf-with-a-flea-on-your-head-and-you-pee-on-baddies-to-get-points-cos-points-make-prizes
as you can get.
philgreaaaaaaaat on 15 Aug '08
I'm sure I'm not the only one who immediately thought about the crap Sega have been churning out recently...
milky_joe on 15 Aug '08
Strange, I've been talking about that since the console released. And I've repeatedly been proven right.

Case in point: Ninjabread Man. Someone in my family bought me the PC version as a p**s-take. I never installed it because I have principles Smile
But I read the reviews and sensibly never touched it.

Next thing I know, the Wii is getting a port. Shock.

They release crap because even if only 1% of Wii owners buy a copy, that's a massive profit for no effort. There's just no way to stop it.

I miss the Seal of Quality.

ive never played it but, think the name is genuis.
roland82 on 15 Aug '08
...then again who wanted to drink from the Dreamcast river when the rotting carcasses of the Saturn, 32x and Sega CD were fouling it not too far upstream...

I hope that you are not saying that the Saturn was crap, because if you are you are hugely wrong.

NiGHTS
Burning Rangers
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Dragon Force
Death Tank
10 player Bomberman
The list goes on...
only_777 on 15 Aug '08
I'm sure I'm not the only one who immediately thought about the crap Sega have been churning out recently...

Name some of them.

Sega have been churning out alot of games that I might not like, but I wouldn't call it crap.
colonel whiskers on 15 Aug '08
...then again who wanted to drink from the Dreamcast river when the rotting carcasses of the Saturn, 32x and Sega CD were fouling it not too far upstream...

I hope that you are not saying that the Saturn was crap, because if you are you are hugely wrong.

NiGHTS
Burning Rangers
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Dragon Force
Death Tank
10 player Bomberman
The list goes on...

Nope, read my post above.
philgreaaaaaaaat on 15 Aug '08
It's all too true, but then that holds for any successful console.
Balladeer on 15 Aug '08
I'm sure I'm not the only one who immediately thought about the crap Sega have been churning out recently...

Name some of them.

Sega have been churning out alot of games that I might not like, but I wouldn't call it crap.

Nights, Sonic and the secret rings, Mario and Sonic Olympics.

Thats just straight off the top of my head.

Not one of them broke 70 on metacritic...
milky_joe on 15 Aug '08
This warnings a tad late is it not? The most successful console always has the most crap as we already know.

Although I doubt Sega will do anything about it.
Biggwedge on 15 Aug '08
"If it's not a good game, it doesn't sell."

This guy obviously hasn't seen the UK All-Formats Top 40 games then, which has a high-percentage of these crap Wii games he speaks of! Laughing
Doctor_Hades on 15 Aug '08
ive never played it but, think the name is genuis.
Yes it is. I love puns, but it wasn't enough to convince me to install it Smile
Dajmin on 15 Aug '08
I'm sure I'm not the only one who immediately thought about the crap Sega have been churning out recently...

Name some of them.

Sega have been churning out alot of games that I might not like, but I wouldn't call it crap.

Nights, Sonic and the secret rings, Mario and Sonic Olympics.

Thats just straight off the top of my head.

Not one of them broke 70 on metacritic...

casual games in general get bad scores (unless it's a nintendo game). Sonic and NIGHTS are pretty bad though, I agree.
colonel whiskers on 15 Aug '08
ive never played it but, think the name is genuis.
Yes it is. I love puns, but it wasn't enough to convince me to install it Smile

Roland, I thought you were making a joke about the Seal of Quality being a game, rather than certification of quality.

That would be awesome - a game called Seal of Quality, where you control a seal... but not just any old seal, a seal who is REALLY really good at everything.

A seal of quality, you might say.
The_Johnson on 15 Aug '08
Sega should know a crap title when they see one, or make one. I actually avoid Sega games as I know they will be lacking in several areas. I don't understand how they can get out of the hardware business and focus all their attention on developing and suck worse.
horngreen on 15 Aug '08
It's like taking the girlfriend into the local video store, and letting her pick the movie. You know she'll pick some crappy, low budget rubbish you've never heard of, just because she likes the cover(as it reminds her of the cover of some big budget movie, like Titanic). Rolling Eyes
ted1138 on 15 Aug '08
Sega should know a crap title when they see one, or make one. I actually avoid Sega games as I know they will be lacking in several areas. I don't understand how they can get out of the hardware business and focus all their attention on developing and suck worse.

Two words: Sammy merger! (...it was all downhill after that...sigh)
Tricky_Rich on 15 Aug '08
ive never played it but, think the name is genuis.
Yes it is. I love puns, but it wasn't enough to convince me to install it Smile

Roland, I thought you were making a joke about the Seal of Quality being a game, rather than certification of quality.

That would be awesome - a game called Seal of Quality, where you control a seal... but not just any old seal, a seal who is REALLY really good at everything.

A seal of quality, you might say.

A Navy Seal, perhaps?


....I'll get my coat

Confused
ParmaViolet on 15 Aug '08
Yes, a Seal - who's really good at everything - and is coloured..... ? Navy.

Somehow I'm thinking a 2D platformer. It could be on the Wii, and then you could 'waggle' a Navy Seal. Shocked

--------

With Regards To Potty-Mouthed Sega-Man
I'd say Ninty have risen to the top on that very "flood of crap". But that would either be being; a) cynical, or b) wrong-ish.

Frankly , I still don't know how the Wii's sold so well. There's the whole 'not paying attention to what the customer wants' thing that Sony did, though their brand name got them back to healthy sales figures. As for the 360? I think the fact that it wasn't made by Sony - and broke a lot.. - hit its figures, but in my world it was never EVER going to win out in the console war.
TigerBeat on 15 Aug '08
Sega should know a crap title when they see one, or make one. I actually avoid Sega games as I know they will be lacking in several areas. I don't understand how they can get out of the hardware business and focus all their attention on developing and suck worse.
Virtua Fighter 5 lacks in no areas and is the pinnacle of modern beat em ups. Virtua Tennis 3 is a highly rated fantastic tennis sim. Sega Rally (nu 1) is as fresh as a daisy(got good reviews as well)
All thoroughly decent, and not worth missing.
(made by SEGA recently as well...)
Zepf on 16 Aug '08
Don't Sega just make mostly crap anyway? What about that Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, Sega, eh?
AJDarkstar on 16 Aug '08
It is strange that Sega decided to axe their new racing wing. Considering it had put out one of their strongest titles in recent times.

Virtua Fighter and Tennis are near shoe-ins for good gaming experiences. Especially the former. But I think when you look at those titles it also shows that Sega have been lacking ambition with new exciting IPs.

Shenmue still perplexes me. I feel they could guarantee sales with a release now. Maybe actually put it out as a heavily enhanced trilogy. It is not the ambitious and overly expensive risk as it was back in the Dreamcast days.
sammyone on 16 Aug '08
ye

crappy games like: Sonic and the Secret Rings, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games or that stupid SEGA all star tennis game Mad
jpgoodnews on 17 Aug '08
Like so?:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/431937
BeNdEr91 on 17 Aug '08
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