CVG has learnt that Sony's next firmware update for PlayStation 3 will include an option for screen grabbing, allowing you to take your own shots of what you get up to on your PS3.
A development source has told CVG that PS3 firmware update 2.5 is rumoured to have screen grabbing built in.
Exactly how this would be done and what you could do with the shots once you've grabbed a piece of the action isn't yet known. But you've got to reckon that uploading them to a server and showing off and using the images as themes would be a safe bet.
Sony hasn't announced anything about a 2.5 update yet and won't even discuss the subject. We'll file this one under 'wait and see' for the time being.
Sounds good. Not sure what use I'd have for it really, but a free addition is a free addition.
My biggest request for the new firmware would be Background Downloading and XMB to be available while watching DVDs/Blu-Rays. That's the only major thing still missing from the system I think. Also I'd like them to move the battery indicator icon so it doesn't cover the clock when you bring up in-game XMB.
Not a bad idea, i personally hope they improve the performance of the in-game XMB, which is still horribly slow in many games, and the trophy synchronization speed.
Not that any of my friends have any trophies yet, but hey.
Yet more superb firmware features from Sony, I'm sure it was top of everyones wish list of must-haves, they haven't got a f**king clue...still could come in useful to keep a picture of how a working, lonely shiny black box looks like when it's working just before firmware 2.51 bricks the system yet again!
Well its another near damned update for the ps3 which doesnt make me happy, at least this time it is delivering something vaguely useful.
What are you talking about. The In game xmb was useful and trophies are proberly more fun than screen grabbing.
Thats one update against a million useless ones, i dont mind proper updates, i just companies that update for the sake of updating, i also hate it when i have to download 3 extra updates just to fix the problems causes by 1 (e.g. 2.40) because it has been rushed out the door.
Well its another near damned update for the ps3 which doesnt make me happy, at least this time it is delivering something vaguely useful.
yet another cynical comment.
just sell your ps3 and be done with it you big baby and stop crying about it!
So you reply with another cry baby comment?
He expressed his opinion, which is probably the opinion of many who own the system. Another update, which will take 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to install. I have spent more time updating the firmware on my PS3 than I have actually playing the bloody thing.
Sony really should have looked at the bigger picture when designing its hardware, maybe they should have spent another year with the development process.
Yet more superb firmware features from Sony, I'm sure it was top of everyones wish list of must-haves, they haven't got a f**king clue...still could come in useful to keep a picture of how a working, lonely shiny black box looks like when it's working just before firmware 2.51 bricks the system yet again!
Why even bother to post something like this? Are you purposely trying to sound like an asshole?
Thats one update against a million useless ones, i dont mind proper updates, i just companies that update for the sake of updating, i also hate it when i have to download 3 extra updates just to fix the problems causes by 1 (e.g. 2.40) because it has been rushed out the door.
It's a free service yeah. You are lucky they include an internet browser with it.
Thats one update against a million useless ones, i dont mind proper updates, i just companies that update for the sake of updating, i also hate it when i have to download 3 extra updates just to fix the problems causes by 1 (e.g. 2.40) because it has been rushed out the door.
It's a free service yeah. You are lucky they include an internet browser with it.
An internet browser that's slow and unresponsive, I'll stick to using my PC for internet browsing thanks.
Well its another near damned update for the ps3 which doesnt make me happy, at least this time it is delivering something vaguely useful.
yet another cynical comment.
just sell your ps3 and be done with it you big baby and stop crying about it!
So you reply with another cry baby comment?
He expressed his opinion, which is probably the opinion of many who own the system. Another update, which will take 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to install. I have spent more time updating the firmware on my PS3 than I have actually playing the bloody thing.
Sony really should have looked at the bigger picture when designing its hardware, maybe they should have spent another year with the development process.
Dear oh dear. PS3s hardware is fantastically built. I know, I own one.
I think you have mistaken the PS3 for the 360, what with all those FPS's coming out for the PS3.
Lastly, you are moaning about a free service. It is by no means a bad service. These updates are designed to improve it. Surely you could spend more time moaning about paying for XBL or the build quality of the 360 no?
Well its another near damned update for the ps3 which doesnt make me happy, at least this time it is delivering something vaguely useful.
yet another cynical comment.
just sell your ps3 and be done with it you big baby and stop crying about it!
So you reply with another cry baby comment?
He expressed his opinion, which is probably the opinion of many who own the system. Another update, which will take 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to install. I have spent more time updating the firmware on my PS3 than I have actually playing the bloody thing.
Sony really should have looked at the bigger picture when designing its hardware, maybe they should have spent another year with the development process.
Dear oh dear. PS3s hardware is fantastically built. I know, I own one.
I think you have mistaken the PS3 for the 360, what with all those FPS's coming out for the PS3.
Lastly, you are moaning about a free service. It is by no means a bad service. These updates are designed to improve it. Surely you could spend more time moaning about paying for XBL or the build quality of the 360 no?
Maybe not.
Some people have had more replacement PS3's than I have had replacement 360's. My total replacements since I got mine on launch day, is 1. I have had more crashes in the short time of playing a PS3 than I have on my 360.
Go figure that one out.
Secondly, I would rather pay my Ł40 a year for the most integrated service you could ask for, for online gaming. The whole way that the 360 is set up for online play is brilliant, hence why I have only gone online once on my PS3, with Motorstorm.
Well its another near damned update for the ps3 which doesnt make me happy, at least this time it is delivering something vaguely useful.
yet another cynical comment.
just sell your ps3 and be done with it you big baby and stop crying about it!
So you reply with another cry baby comment?
He expressed his opinion, which is probably the opinion of many who own the system. Another update, which will take 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to install. I have spent more time updating the firmware on my PS3 than I have actually playing the bloody thing.
Sony really should have looked at the bigger picture when designing its hardware, maybe they should have spent another year with the development process.
Dear oh dear. PS3s hardware is fantastically built. I know, I own one.
I think you have mistaken the PS3 for the 360, what with all those FPS's coming out for the PS3.
Lastly, you are moaning about a free service. It is by no means a bad service. These updates are designed to improve it. Surely you could spend more time moaning about paying for XBL or the build quality of the 360 no?
Maybe not.
So fantastically built that they have to keep patching the thing monthly to keep it working. And there's no point in a free service if it's s**t, you get what you pay for or not in the case of Sony!
Well its another near damned update for the ps3 which doesnt make me happy, at least this time it is delivering something vaguely useful.
yet another cynical comment.
just sell your ps3 and be done with it you big baby and stop crying about it!
So you reply with another cry baby comment?
He expressed his opinion, which is probably the opinion of many who own the system. Another update, which will take 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to install. I have spent more time updating the firmware on my PS3 than I have actually playing the bloody thing.
Sony really should have looked at the bigger picture when designing its hardware, maybe they should have spent another year with the development process.
Dear oh dear. PS3s hardware is fantastically built. I know, I own one.
I think you have mistaken the PS3 for the 360, what with all those FPS's coming out for the PS3.
Lastly, you are moaning about a free service. It is by no means a bad service. These updates are designed to improve it. Surely you could spend more time moaning about paying for XBL or the build quality of the 360 no?
Maybe not.
Some people have had more replacement PS3's than I have had replacement 360's. My total replacements since I got mine on launch day, is 1. I have had more crashes in the short time of playing a PS3 than I have on my 360.
Go figure that one out.
Look I may be the mad one out of the two of us here, but are you seriously trying to argue that PS3s failure rate is worse than 360s???
And you brought up hardware issues.
Anyhoot, I hope Sony just copy every inch of XBL, so there will be no complaints. Hold on, they'd then get accused of ripping off XBL...
Lastly, you are moaning about a free service. It is by no means a bad service. These updates are designed to improve it. Surely you could spend more time moaning about paying for XBL or the build quality of the 360 no?
Maybe not.
There seems to be a misconception round here that just because a service is 'free', people have no right to complain about it if and when it underperforms.
"The latest update bricked my console" "Doesn't matter, it's free"
Hardly.
While you won't hear me suggesting that Sony not charging for their online service is DEFINITELY one over on the 360, this doesn't mean that Sony can provide a sub-par service.
Also, I will point out that Microsoft don't actually charge for updates either - just thought I'd add.
Anyhoot, I hope Sony just copy every inch of XBL, so there will be no complaints. Hold on, they'd then get accused of ripping off XBL...
At last, something I agree with you on. I hope they do too. And when that happens, maybe it'll force Microsoft into dropping the charge - which is nothing short of daylight robbery.
Well its another near damned update for the ps3 which doesnt make me happy, at least this time it is delivering something vaguely useful.
yet another cynical comment.
just sell your ps3 and be done with it you big baby and stop crying about it!
So you reply with another cry baby comment?
He expressed his opinion, which is probably the opinion of many who own the system. Another update, which will take 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to install. I have spent more time updating the firmware on my PS3 than I have actually playing the bloody thing.
Sony really should have looked at the bigger picture when designing its hardware, maybe they should have spent another year with the development process.
Dear oh dear. PS3s hardware is fantastically built. I know, I own one.
I think you have mistaken the PS3 for the 360, what with all those FPS's coming out for the PS3.
Lastly, you are moaning about a free service. It is by no means a bad service. These updates are designed to improve it. Surely you could spend more time moaning about paying for XBL or the build quality of the 360 no?
Maybe not.
Some people have had more replacement PS3's than I have had replacement 360's. My total replacements since I got mine on launch day, is 1. I have had more crashes in the short time of playing a PS3 than I have on my 360.
Go figure that one out.
Look I may be the mad one out of the two of us here, but are you seriously trying to argue that PS3s failure rate is worse than 360s???
And you brought up hardware issues.
Anyhoot, I hope Sony just copy every inch of XBL, so there will be no complaints. Hold on, they'd then get accused of ripping off XBL...
I didn't say that. Learn to read young man, it may get you somewhere in the future. Stop trying to read between the lines, just to create an argument.
every single ps3 news item he has a snipey comment about it. its not an opinion, its like it grinds him and has nothing but bad things to say about it. which is ungrateful as he got it for free! and everything 360 related gets the thumbs up. its tiring.
So not at all like some other visitors to this forum who only EVER spout cr*p about how one console/company is equatable to the second coming of Christ, and it's 'opponent' is the embodiment of evil and can do no right - whether the thread has any relevance to the subject doesn't seem to matter...
If sony released a firmware update that had private chat id praise them, fact is 75% of the updates are useless, would it not make sense to release a proper update every 3 months or so that included noticeable improvements and had been tested properly, instead of needing a further 2 updates to fix it. The last two firmware updates ive downloaded have only served to fox problems the 2.40 update caused, that isnt what i expect or want.
considering its costing MS billions on hardware faults maybe they should have spend a little extra time on the development process. then again with fans like theirs, no need. a fail rate of millions and they still can do no wrong.
What is this supposed to mean? Microsoft f**ked up big time, so all other companies are excused of their faults until theirs is equatable to Microsofts?
Well its another near damned update for the ps3 which doesnt make me happy, at least this time it is delivering something vaguely useful.
yet another cynical comment.
just sell your ps3 and be done with it you big baby and stop crying about it!
So you reply with another cry baby comment?
He expressed his opinion, which is probably the opinion of many who own the system. Another update, which will take 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to install. I have spent more time updating the firmware on my PS3 than I have actually playing the bloody thing.
Sony really should have looked at the bigger picture when designing its hardware, maybe they should have spent another year with the development process.
Dear oh dear. PS3s hardware is fantastically built. I know, I own one.
I think you have mistaken the PS3 for the 360, what with all those FPS's coming out for the PS3.
Lastly, you are moaning about a free service. It is by no means a bad service. These updates are designed to improve it. Surely you could spend more time moaning about paying for XBL or the build quality of the 360 no?
Maybe not.
Some people have had more replacement PS3's than I have had replacement 360's. My total replacements since I got mine on launch day, is 1. I have had more crashes in the short time of playing a PS3 than I have on my 360.
Go figure that one out.
Look I may be the mad one out of the two of us here, but are you seriously trying to argue that PS3s failure rate is worse than 360s???
And you brought up hardware issues.
Anyhoot, I hope Sony just copy every inch of XBL, so there will be no complaints. Hold on, they'd then get accused of ripping off XBL...
I didn't say that. Learn to read young man, it may get you somewhere in the future. Stop trying to read between the lines, just to create an argument.
Listen mate, I'm quite scared of you as you are a moderator.
You hold the power in this argument, just don't abuse. I will look at the floor now and not make any eye contact with you.
considering its costing MS billions on hardware faults maybe they should have spend a little extra time on the development process. then again with fans like theirs, no need. a fail rate of millions and they still can do no wrong.
What is this supposed to mean? Microsoft f**ked up big time, so all other companies are excused of their faults until theirs is equatable to Microsofts?
"Why is it that Microsoft's products keep mushrooming in size with each new release always requiring significantly more disk space and more processing power than the last time? They might claim it's because of all the new features they add each time, but that's only half the story. The new features and the increased processing requirements are designed to fuel the process of perpetual upgrades. This is Microsoft's way of rubbing Intel's back so that Intel will give Microsoft preferential treatment when it comes out with new chip specs. It's also Microsoft's way of convincing consumers that their newer product versions are better because they are so much bigger. Their new features are often superfluous but users must still deal with the overhead required by the features even though most will never use the features."
"The Bloatware Debate" is a technical discussion of how two separate people dissected one particular Microsoft program and found out, to their shock, that it was over 2,000% larger than it should have been."
considering its costing MS billions on hardware faults maybe they should have spend a little extra time on the development process. then again with fans like theirs, no need. a fail rate of millions and they still can do no wrong.
What is this supposed to mean? Microsoft f**ked up big time, so all other companies are excused of their faults until theirs is equatable to Microsofts?
Why is it that.....(snip).....(yawn)....
Why is it that Suivaloom feels the need to post nonsense about Microsoft in a PS3 related thread? - I'm beginning to think that you're more obsessed with MS than you are Sony....
Oh, and I'll spare you having to log in as 'tam' and give you this one for free:
considering its costing MS billions on hardware faults maybe they should have spend a little extra time on the development process. then again with fans like theirs, no need. a fail rate of millions and they still can do no wrong.
What is this supposed to mean? Microsoft f**ked up big time, so all other companies are excused of their faults until theirs is equatable to Microsofts?
"Why is it that Microsoft's products keep mushrooming in size with each new release always requiring significantly more disk space and more processing power than the last time? They might claim it's because of all the new features they add each time, but that's only half the story. The new features and the increased processing requirements are designed to fuel the process of perpetual upgrades. This is Microsoft's way of rubbing Intel's back so that Intel will give Microsoft preferential treatment when it comes out with new chip specs. It's also Microsoft's way of convincing consumers that their newer product versions are better because they are so much bigger. Their new features are often superfluous but users must still deal with the overhead required by the features even though most will never use the features."
"The Bloatware Debate" is a technical discussion of how two separate people dissected one particular Microsoft program and found out, to their shock, that it was over 2,000% larger than it should have been."
I agree with this completely. Microsoft are an evil, money grabbing corporation, that will do whatever it takes for the bottom line. Sadly, they produce a product that millions of people desire (or need, in the case of windows).
However, the same is true of Apple, Nintendo, Sony, Samsung, and any other large corp you can think of.
Listen mate, I'm quite scared of you as you are a moderator.
You hold the power in this argument, just don't abuse. I will look at the floor now and not make any eye contact with you.
I hold no moderation powers in this part of the forums, it's a free for all in here. The only people that moderate this particular forum, are the admins and site staff.
Listen mate, I'm quite scared of you as you are a moderator.
You hold the power in this argument, just don't abuse. I will look at the floor now and not make any eye contact with you.
I hold no moderation powers in this part of the forums, it's a free for all in here. The only people that moderate this particular forum, are the admins and site staff.
I don't see what relevance it is that you are a moderator anyway - it's entirely possible for someone to disagree with a mod, and have a well reasoned argument or discussion with them.
I have to admit that ive noticed every single thread about ps3, Deadalus just moans about it. Im not saying he's a fanboy but surely anything that is added to a service (be it useful or not) is a good thing. Sony dont tailor their updates to meet DEADALUS' specific needs. They create their update based on small improvements which many people might find useful. Try reading back through the thread and note that more people have had positive feedback regarding the update than negative, therefore is this update not a success?
All im saying is try to be a bit more positive about a company trying to improve their free service to its loyal customers.
considering its costing MS billions on hardware faults maybe they should have spend a little extra time on the development process. then again with fans like theirs, no need. a fail rate of millions and they still can do no wrong.
What is this supposed to mean? Microsoft f**ked up big time, so all other companies are excused of their faults until theirs is equatable to Microsofts?
"Why is it that Microsoft's products keep mushrooming in size with each new release always requiring significantly more disk space and more processing power than the last time? They might claim it's because of all the new features they add each time, but that's only half the story. The new features and the increased processing requirements are designed to fuel the process of perpetual upgrades. This is Microsoft's way of rubbing Intel's back so that Intel will give Microsoft preferential treatment when it comes out with new chip specs. It's also Microsoft's way of convincing consumers that their newer product versions are better because they are so much bigger. Their new features are often superfluous but users must still deal with the overhead required by the features even though most will never use the features."
"The Bloatware Debate" is a technical discussion of how two separate people dissected one particular Microsoft program and found out, to their shock, that it was over 2,000% larger than it should have been."
I agree with this completely. Microsoft are an evil, money grabbing corporation, that will do whatever it takes for the bottom line. Sadly, they produce a product that millions of people desire (or need, in the case of windows).
However, the same is true of Apple, Nintendo, Sony, Samsung, and any other large corp you can think of.
You keep making that mistake "marty".
None of the above companies have anything like the monopoly Microsoft have in their business environment.
Sony struggles against the powerful Samsung, Apple, Hitachi, Toshiba, Panasonic in the electronics entertainment industry as an example. Poor Sony.
Name me a rival to Microsoft in its founding business????????
There is none. That is not healthy. In fact, your lifestyle of gratuitously consuming Microsoft products is not healthy "mart".
Listen mate, I'm quite scared of you as you are a moderator.
You hold the power in this argument, just don't abuse. I will look at the floor now and not make any eye contact with you.
I hold no moderation powers in this part of the forums, it's a free for all in here. The only people that moderate this particular forum, are the admins and site staff.
I don't see what relevance it is that you are a moderator anyway - it's entirely possible for someone to disagree with a mod, and have a well reasoned argument or discussion with them.
Mods are people too.
Apparently
Precisely.
Also of note, the only forum that is in major need for strong moderation, is the PS3 forum. Now that place does scare me. Baiting, coupled with blatant blinkered fanboys. It's a recipe for disaster in that place.
PUT IT THIS WAY: the same people who are complaining about 'constant' updates, are the same people who, when their 360 fails, say: no bother its free to get fixed!!!
what would you rather do - click on update, go away for a few minutes, come back and play on.
or have to send your console away for repair for a number of WEEKS!!!
get a grip.
I can't imagine ANYONE would say 'no bother, it's free to get fixed' if and when their console RRoDs. Get it fixed for free, sure (especially if you are considering buying a new one to replace it - f**k that), but b*tch and moan about it too. Who WOULDN'T be annoyed by this?
Why are you comparing updates to a RRoD anyway? Surely you should compare like for like, no? Didn't 2.40 brick some consoles? Maybe you should compare Sonys repair of these compared to MS' repairing of RRoD.
Something thats typical of a fanboy battle.. my mate has and LOVES his xbox360. As soon as they brought out an update which upgraded very little btw, he was like "OH yes the updates are amazing". But yet when we updated to 2.40 on the PS3, he was like "the update is sh!t, it does nothing" . Thats complete dribble, and shows the tunnel vision of some fanboys.
Something thats typical of a fanboy battle.. my mate has and LOVES his xbox360. As soon as they brought out an update which upgraded very little btw, he was like "OH yes the updates are amazing". But yet when we updated to 2.40 on the PS3, he was like "the update is sh!t, it does nothing" . Thats complete dribble, and shows the tunnel vision of some fanboys.
PUT IT THIS WAY: the same people who are complaining about 'constant' updates, are the same people who, when their 360 fails, say: no bother its free to get fixed!!!
what would you rather do - click on update, go away for a few minutes, come back and play on.
or have to send your console away for repair for a number of WEEKS!!!
get a grip.
Fact is little cretins like yourself base your fanboyism and reasoning on statistics whereas myself and other proper users base ours on personal experience, in two years my 360 has broken once and i got it replaced on the same day with a brand new system, do yeah i dont complain about breakages as it hasnt happened to me.
I have to admit that ive noticed every single thread about ps3, Deadalus just moans about it. Im not saying he's a fanboy but surely anything that is added to a service (be it useful or not) is a good thing. Sony dont tailor their updates to meet DEADALUS' specific needs. They create their update based on small improvements which many people might find useful. Try reading back through the thread and note that more people have had positive feedback regarding the update than negative, therefore is this update not a success?
All im saying is try to be a bit more positive about a company trying to improve their free service to its loyal customers.
Well you must have very selective vision, go into the CVG forums (where i post) and you will find i am very fair to the ps3, i favour neither console. However what i dont appreciate is constant updates, my only gripe is that they are too frequent and do very little, hence the reason why im looking forward to the 360's update, its the first major one this year and will bring a drastic change.
Why the double quotes? My name is Martin, some of my mates call me Marty (a Back to the Future throwback me thinks). Call me either, I don't mind which, but it IS my name...
None of the above companies have anything like the monopoly Microsoft have in their business environment.
Yes, and monopolies are a bad thing, most definitely. Microsoft have been sat on their throne for far too long, certainly with regards to PC software/OS. However, that doesn't make the other companies any less money grabbing.
Sony struggles against the powerful Samsung, Apple, Hitachi, Toshiba, Panasonic in the electronics entertainment industry as an example. Poor Sony.
Yes, 'poor' Sony - they are a little, innocent flower, going up against all those bad, nasty companies.... *boggle*
Name me a rival to Microsoft in its founding business????????
Um, Xbox 360 - Playstation 3 and Wii Windows - Linux Word - Wordperfect *shrug* These are just off the top of my head
There is none. That is not healthy. In fact, your lifestyle of gratuitously consuming Microsoft products is not healthy "mart".
Gratuitously consuming Microsoft products? Eh? I have a 360, and a not entirely legal copy of Windows and Office. Hardly gratuitous. I have more Samsung products in my house in fact.
I have to admit that ive noticed every single thread about ps3, Deadalus just moans about it. Im not saying he's a fanboy but surely anything that is added to a service (be it useful or not) is a good thing. Sony dont tailor their updates to meet DEADALUS' specific needs. They create their update based on small improvements which many people might find useful. Try reading back through the thread and note that more people have had positive feedback regarding the update than negative, therefore is this update not a success?
All im saying is try to be a bit more positive about a company trying to improve their free service to its loyal customers.
However, some of these so called updates have not delivered what people want, or are seriously flawed in their operation.
Take the 2.40 update for example. Yes, it provided in game XMB, but it was mainly catered around seeing what your friends are playing and reading and answering messages. That was all well and good, but one feature that I was also looking forward to, was using my own music within my games, but no, that is not possible on all games. It is only available in the games that support it within the actual game GUI anyway. Plus I can't exactly use the music from my networked devices either, from what I saw, the music had to be on the PS3's HDD, or on a device that was directly connected to the PS3.
Well i apologise mate. I dont go into many of the topics, i just go into the threads which are on the main page. Like i said im not saying youre a fanboy, its just that i would rather a console try to improve itself, rather than going stale over time. I have no idea really about how frequently/what content the 360 updates have. What are the main differneces between the updates on 360/ps3? I do agree though, that yes the ps3 occasionally has minor updates to "improve stability". This is something we dont really notice and i suppose could be done as a background download
I agree that the in-game music feature is a little dissapointing. The only game i have that works with this feature is PAIN. Much like the trophies, either the game has to have the feature in its GUI, or an update from the games' developer would be required to integrate the feature. So perhaps we will see more and more game developers incoorperating this feature over the next year or so?
considering its costing MS billions on hardware faults maybe they should have spend a little extra time on the development process. then again with fans like theirs, no need. a fail rate of millions and they still can do no wrong.
What is this supposed to mean? Microsoft f**ked up big time, so all other companies are excused of their faults until theirs is equatable to Microsofts?
"Why is it that Microsoft's products keep mushrooming in size with each new release always requiring significantly more disk space and more processing power than the last time? They might claim it's because of all the new features they add each time, but that's only half the story. The new features and the increased processing requirements are designed to fuel the process of perpetual upgrades. This is Microsoft's way of rubbing Intel's back so that Intel will give Microsoft preferential treatment when it comes out with new chip specs. It's also Microsoft's way of convincing consumers that their newer product versions are better because they are so much bigger. Their new features are often superfluous but users must still deal with the overhead required by the features even though most will never use the features."
"The Bloatware Debate" is a technical discussion of how two separate people dissected one particular Microsoft program and found out, to their shock, that it was over 2,000% larger than it should have been."
I agree with this completely. Microsoft are an evil, money grabbing corporation, that will do whatever it takes for the bottom line. Sadly, they produce a product that millions of people desire (or need, in the case of windows).
However, the same is true of Apple, Nintendo, Sony, Samsung, and any other large corp you can think of.
You keep making that mistake "marty".
None of the above companies have anything like the monopoly Microsoft have in their business environment.
Sony struggles against the powerful Samsung, Apple, Hitachi, Toshiba, Panasonic in the electronics entertainment industry as an example. Poor Sony.
Name me a rival to Microsoft in its founding business????????
There is none. That is not healthy. In fact, your lifestyle of gratuitously consuming Microsoft products is not healthy "mart".
Apple would be MSes main competition. Who is Apples main competition in the MP3 market? Did you just say that a lifestyle of gratuitously consuming MS products is unhealthy? I bet you were sitting there in your Sony pajamas when you typed that. Do you even realize how ironic you are being at the moment?
"Those b*stards Sony. How dare they release an update to try and improve the PS3, which will bring it closer to the 360 service. I know for a fact this update is useless anyway, despite the fact this update is just a 'rumour'. Yeah bloody Sony, the PSN is useless even though I've never browsed on it."
"Those b*stards Sony. How dare they release an update to try and improve the PS3, which will bring it closer to the 360 service. I know for a fact this update is useless anyway, despite the fact this update is just a 'rumour'. Yeah bloody Sony, the PSN is useless even though I've never browsed on it."
Yeah, just f*ck 'em.
Who are you, and what have you done with Suivaloom? Are you suggesting that (aside from shooty and violent games ) the 360 does something better than the PS3.
Yowser. And there goes a pig flying passed the window as I type.
In all honesty, I do admire how Sony are trying to constantly improve things with the PS3. If they force MS into providing live as a free service than I may just get a PS3 out of gratitude... maybe.
On the surface screen grabs sound like a pretty dull feature, but then I take loads of screengrabs when I'm playing WoW and LotRO, so it is likely to be a feature I'll actually use. Can't complain about receiving features.
To be honest I dont mind updates once a month if it helps to ease issues with a game, GTA for example. Thats what it is normally, if there are no issues
15 mins a month is fine.
Would be helpful if it ran in the Background though and you could surf the store whilst waiting or something.
Ah the famous Suivaloom! We meet at last lol. Seriously ive seen your name branded about in numerous threads
Jules there is a code of conduct in here.
Anything positive about Sony is banned and a private hate message will pop up in your inbox, besides the saucy PMs I receive from "marty" - a Roy-of-the-Rovers style xbot.
The repression is even enforced by the moderators on here. So be covert with your communications.
Ah the famous Suivaloom! We meet at last lol. Seriously ive seen your name branded about in numerous threads
Jules there is a code of conduct in here.
Anything positive about Sony is banned and a private hate message will pop up in your inbox, besides the saucy PMs I receive from "marty" - a Roy-of-the-Rovers style xbot.
In the future, I ask that don't make up completely untrue things about me, Suivaloom. Were I a moderator, I would give you a warning for that. Look up the term libel or slander.
For the record, I have not, and would not, PM Suivaloom about anything. The guy is an abhorrant human being, and one I only interact with because he frequents this site. I would not voluntarily engage in a conversation with him outside of this public arena.
Then might I suggest you leave your immature ramblings which fail to even conjure up a semblance of a reasoned discussion and go somewhere else instead? Please?
As for this whole updates thing, my take is this: Updates are good. Constant updates are not. I would much rather several features were bunched together into one larger update that came about infrequently then have to update once every couple of weeks. The most recent PS3 firmware, for instance, added "support for the future growth of the system" or some such gubbins. Couldn't an update like that have waited until there were more things to add? I don't even remember when I last updated the 360 dashboard, but it added a whole host of new features and navigation changes, which made it much more worthwhile.
Plus, my main issue with the PS3 firmware updates is just how long they take to download and install. The 360 updates, by comparison, seem to download and apply themselves much faster, even though they would theoretically be larger in size.
If sony released a firmware update that had private chat id praise them, fact is 75% of the updates are useless, would it not make sense to release a proper update every 3 months or so that included noticeable improvements and had been tested properly, instead of needing a further 2 updates to fix it. The last two firmware updates ive downloaded have only served to fox problems the 2.40 update caused, that isnt what i expect or want.
recently its more like 95%
i remember when the firmware updates were good. like when we got DIVx support. that was very useful.
what i don't like is the fact that you can't choose to ignore updates. if you do, you can't play online. thats f**ked up. its like a dictatorship. next sony will be telling me how to play my games!
Thanks to 'so called' moderators, this thread has turned into another pointless fanboy battle. Well done.
And has anybody ever questioned why the word 'moderator' is green? And that all moderators seem to chastise PS3 fans? Weird. Or is it?
Heh. Here come the forum moderator haters. Baiting at its highest.
Do you realise, it's people like you who actually incite these fanboy battles, with your blinkered opinions on the PS3 and constant bashing of the 360? There are actually more posts on here bashing the 360, from people like you, than there is about people bashing the PS3.
I, like a few of the moderators on here, own both consoles. We provide a non blinkered opinion on both systems, yet ask us which console the majority of us prefer and you will find that even with its problems, most of us prefer the 360 for its ease of use and complete integration of online components and dashboard features.
Stop trying to incite baiting towards moderator hating and try and put some more effort into creating a debate about the specified topic, without the hankies if you please.
I'm wondering how many closeup crotch / shagging / cleavage shots we'll be seeing now:
"Chek dis pix - it is of laras boobs rofl."
I can't wait to start grabbing mine...and doing some screengrabs!
It would be great if there was a 'glitch' section where you could show weird glitches in your grabs, or even a 'tutorials' section where you could show the locations of secret items, powerups, etc (I'm aware you can do this on youtube already, but still...). This is assuming that there will be an upload facility on the PSN where you can browse images.
And back off topic for a while, Suivaloom, you've made some reasonable points today. Shame you still wrap them all in a blanket of vitriolic nonsense. And please lord stop posting the same thing in numerous threads!
I dont think 15 mins is much, like someone else said it is improving the system, you cant really complain. ALTHOUGH DAED is right it does waste time, with often no apparent improvement, especially if they are only a week apart it can get annoying.
What i find hilarious is that there are only ps3 fanboys on here arguing against themselves.
And Suivaloom grow up, "its like a dictatorship in here"
Thanks to 'so called' moderators, this thread has turned into another pointless fanboy battle. Well done.
And has anybody ever questioned why the word 'moderator' is green? And that all moderators seem to chastise PS3 fans? Weird. Or is it?
Heh. Here come the forum moderator haters. Baiting at its highest.
Do you realise, it's people like you who actually incite these fanboy battles, with your blinkered opinions on the PS3 and constant bashing of the 360? There are actually more posts on here bashing the 360, from people like you, than there is about people bashing the PS3.
I, like a few of the moderators on here, own both consoles. We provide a non blinkered opinion on both systems, yet ask us which console the majority of us prefer and you will find that even with its problems, most of us prefer the 360 for its ease of use and complete integration of online components and dashboard features.
Stop trying to incite baiting towards moderator hating and try and put some more effort into creating a debate about the specified topic, without the hankies if you please.
Thanks.
I have only baited people who disagree with my opinions of the PS3, which I think is one of the best consoles I have owned - and I've owned them all! It just seems to me that certain folk are very petty when it comes to Sony related stories, such as this one. If I don't love the 360 as much as you guys obviously do, does that make my judgment wrong?
Oh, and you failed to notice that I own a 360. I just don't like it as much as my PS3. Get over it. People are allowed to be different. Doesn't mean I am not looking forward to Fable 2 as much as the next guy....
Thanks to 'so called' moderators, this thread has turned into another pointless fanboy battle. Well done.
And has anybody ever questioned why the word 'moderator' is green? And that all moderators seem to chastise PS3 fans? Weird. Or is it?
Heh. Here come the forum moderator haters. Baiting at its highest.
Do you realise, it's people like you who actually incite these fanboy battles, with your blinkered opinions on the PS3 and constant bashing of the 360? There are actually more posts on here bashing the 360, from people like you, than there is about people bashing the PS3.
I, like a few of the moderators on here, own both consoles. We provide a non blinkered opinion on both systems, yet ask us which console the majority of us prefer and you will find that even with its problems, most of us prefer the 360 for its ease of use and complete integration of online components and dashboard features.
Stop trying to incite baiting towards moderator hating and try and put some more effort into creating a debate about the specified topic, without the hankies if you please.
Thanks.
I have only baited people who disagree with my opinions of the PS3, which I think is one of the best consoles I have owned - and I've owned them all! It just seems to me that certain folk are very petty when it comes to Sony related stories, such as this one. If I don't love the 360 as much as you guys obviously do, does that make my judgment wrong?
Oh, and you failed to notice that I own a 360. I just don't like it as much as my PS3. Get over it. People are allowed to be different. Doesn't mean I am not looking forward to Fable 2 as much as the next guy....
Hi there, I'm the next guy. Yeeeeah, not really looking forward to Fable 2 Maybe the next "next guy" will though.
it's true. the latest batch of mods like to act as if they're above the petty fangirl arguing.
one flick through this joke of a thread and you can see they're right in the thick of it!
Ferg, we are expressing opinions based on experiences on both systems, nothing more.
Since owning the 360, I have had 4 major updates to the dashboard, which provided features that did exactly how they were described on the tin. There have been a handful of minor updates that provided nothing of importance, but probably to overcome security loopholes.
Since buying my PS3 in February of this year, I have already experienced more updates to the system than I have seen on the 360 in almost 3 years. Each of these updates have taken an average of 30 minutes to implement. On the 360, they are literally a quick 2 minute job.
Even game patches take a while to do on the PS3, compared to the 360 counterparts.
All I have said, is that as a system, the 360, whilst not as reliable in it's hardware, (for some), is a lot more reliable in its operation and implementation of updates and patches.
All I have said, is that as a system, the 360, whilst not as reliable in it's hardware, (for some), is a lot more reliable in its operation and implementation of updates and patches.
Basically, Microsoft shouldn't do hardware and Sony shouldn't do software.
it's true. the latest batch of mods like to act as if they're above the petty fangirl arguing.
one flick through this joke of a thread and you can see they're right in the thick of it!
Ferg, we are expressing opinions based on experiences on both systems, nothing more.
Since owning the 360, I have had 4 major updates to the dashboard, which provided features that did exactly how they were described on the tin. There have been a handful of minor updates that provided nothing of importance, but probably to overcome security loopholes.
Since buying my PS3 in February of this year, I have already experienced more updates to the system than I have seen on the 360 in almost 3 years. Each of these updates have taken an average of 30 minutes to implement. On the 360, they are literally a quick 2 minute job.
Even game patches take a while to do on the PS3, compared to the 360 counterparts.
All I have said, is that as a system, the 360, whilst not as reliable in it's hardware, (for some), is a lot more reliable in its operation and implementation of updates and patches.
30 mins! I haven't waited more than 5 minutes for mine. I agree that 360 has quicker download times, but exagerating like that is not on! NOT ON.
I have only baited people who disagree with my opinions of the PS3, which I think is one of the best consoles I have owned - and I've owned them all! It just seems to me that certain folk are very petty when it comes to Sony related stories, such as this one. If I don't love the 360 as much as you guys obviously do, does that make my judgment wrong?
Oh, and you failed to notice that I own a 360. I just don't like it as much as my PS3. Get over it. People are allowed to be different. Doesn't mean I am not looking forward to Fable 2 as much as the next guy....
No, I have not failed to notice that you also own a 360. I do take peoples opinions on board when replying Yet you continue to bait unnecessary arguments, why?
Yeah, and you have to be invited by another 360 fan - err, I mean Moderator.
They're just as bad as everyone else. Worse in fact. They couldn't moderate a turnip competition.
Comments like this aren't welcome and only provide proof that your attention span is no more than that of a child, even after me telling you to stop with the baiting of moderators. For a 35 year old, I have seen many more constructive posts from some of the younger members.
it's true. the latest batch of mods like to act as if they're above the petty fangirl arguing.
one flick through this joke of a thread and you can see they're right in the thick of it!
Ferg, we are expressing opinions based on experiences on both systems, nothing more.
Since owning the 360, I have had 4 major updates to the dashboard, which provided features that did exactly how they were described on the tin. There have been a handful of minor updates that provided nothing of importance, but probably to overcome security loopholes.
Since buying my PS3 in February of this year, I have already experienced more updates to the system than I have seen on the 360 in almost 3 years. Each of these updates have taken an average of 30 minutes to implement. On the 360, they are literally a quick 2 minute job.
Even game patches take a while to do on the PS3, compared to the 360 counterparts.
All I have said, is that as a system, the 360, whilst not as reliable in it's hardware, (for some), is a lot more reliable in its operation and implementation of updates and patches.
30 mins! I haven't waited more than 5 minutes for mine. I agree that 360 has quicker download times, but exagerating like that is not on! NOT ON.
Actually most of the updates take that long for me, ive had some stretch to over 90 minutes although that was more to do with my connection, still, ive never had a download finish in 5 minutes, if it did i wouldnt mind them all the time, its the constant 30 minute downloads that annoy me, especially when the alternative is to lose all online connectivity.
30 mins! I haven't waited more than 5 minutes for mine. I agree that 360 has quicker download times, but exagerating like that is not on! NOT ON.
Its no exaggeration, I think. The last firmware update came about when I was going to download a trailer to show my mate. We had to wait 35 mins for the update to download and install, before we could access the store and download the video.
All my updates take this long. The last GT5 update took almost an hour to download and install, though downloads from the PSN are much quicker than firmware and patches for some reason.
I have only baited people who disagree with my opinions of the PS3, which I think is one of the best consoles I have owned - and I've owned them all! It just seems to me that certain folk are very petty when it comes to Sony related stories, such as this one. If I don't love the 360 as much as you guys obviously do, does that make my judgment wrong?
Oh, and you failed to notice that I own a 360. I just don't like it as much as my PS3. Get over it. People are allowed to be different. Doesn't mean I am not looking forward to Fable 2 as much as the next guy....
No, I have not failed to notice that you also own a 360. I do take peoples opinions on board when replying Yet you continue to bait unnecessary arguments, why?
Yeah, and you have to be invited by another 360 fan - err, I mean Moderator.
They're just as bad as everyone else. Worse in fact. They couldn't moderate a turnip competition.
Comments like this aren't welcome and only provide proof that your attention span is no more than that of a child, even after me telling you to stop with the baiting of moderators. For a 35 year old, I have seen many more constructive posts from some of the younger members.
A 35 year old is allowed to have a sense of humour you know! Jebus, if everybody was as serious as you moderators, CVG forums would be pointless. The nutters make these threads worthwhile.
Ah the famous Suivaloom! We meet at last lol. Seriously ive seen your name branded about in numerous threads
Jules there is a code of conduct in here.
Anything positive about Sony is banned and a private hate message will pop up in your inbox, besides the saucy PMs I receive from "marty" - a Roy-of-the-Rovers style xbot.
In the future, I ask that don't make up completely untrue things about me, Suivaloom. Were I a moderator, I would give you a warning for that. Look up the term libel or slander.
For the record, I have not, and would not, PM Suivaloom about anything. The guy is an abhorrant human being, and one I only interact with because he frequents this site. I would not voluntarily engage in a conversation with him outside of this public arena.
Yaaaaaaaay Marty! I wanna have your babies. Erm, or not. It's nice that I'm not the only one who has passed the point of finding the ghoul amusing and is actually, genuinely f*cked off with him. Why oh why don't the moderators step in and do something about him? Surely the false claim that you send him "saucy PMs" should be enough to get him barred?
The 30 minute time scale that I refer to, includes the installation time. I have a fairly fast internet connection and when I have downloaded demos of around 1GB, they come through within 30 minutes, it's just the updates take just as long, for what should surely be less than 1GB in size.
1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator. 2. absolute, imperious, or overbearing power or control. 3. the office or position held by a dictator. 4. the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner. 5. the feeling of being heavily burdened, mentally or physically, by troubles, adverse conditions, anxiety, etc.
Screen grabbing?.. Video footage is what we want!..
This feature is already present on the PS3, It's used in Pixel Junk Eden, it's up to the Dev's off the games to apply this feature in a patch update for the games..
Yaaaaaaaay Marty! I wanna have your babies. Erm, or not.
That's all I need - I'm dodging that bullet from my girlfriend currently
It's nice that I'm not the only one who has passed the point of finding the ghoul amusing and is actually, genuinely f*cked off with him. Why oh why don't the moderators step in and do something about him? Surely the false claim that you send him "saucy PMs" should be enough to get him barred?
You'd hope eh? Especially as the moderators here are, according to him, completely biased and run the place like a police state, or words to that effect.
1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator. 2. absolute, imperious, or overbearing power or control. 3. the office or position held by a dictator. 4. the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner. 5. the feeling of being heavily burdened, mentally or physically, by troubles, adverse conditions, anxiety, etc.
Suivaloom swi·va·loom
–noun
1. a moronic Sony fanatic that burdens the C&VG forums with his presence. 2. a type of frog
1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator. 2. absolute, imperious, or overbearing power or control. 3. the office or position held by a dictator. 4. the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner. 5. the feeling of being heavily burdened, mentally or physically, by troubles, adverse conditions, anxiety, etc.
Suivaloom swi·va·loom
–noun
1. a moronic Sony fanatic that burdens the C&VG forums with his presence. 2. a type of frog
Screen grabbing?.. Video footage is what we want!..
This feature is already present on the PS3, It's used in Pixel Junk Eden, it's up to the Dev's off the games to apply this feature in a patch update for the games..
That's a feature of the game, not a feature set of the PS3 itself. Much like saving your race replays in a racing game.
Not a bad feature but would like more. Defo agree with the other guys about video grab feature - just limit the time limit and screen res. How about inbuilt-Skype support as standard - this can help replace skype on pc which me and mates use (also help Sony gain ground in the Voip area) - also to ignore the annoying brats and keep our conferences private.
Ability to browse internet whilst game/dvd/bluray/music is running in background (or paused) so we can check up faqs if stuck, browse for fun, etc. Firefox and google as standard would be nice?!
Well ive done all my updates since day one and i can honsetly say that i agree with the guy who said they only take about five minutes. They dont take long at all, cant see what all the fuss is about. Ps this includes when my internet speed is capped by bt at a very early time in the evening.
Some people must hold there life so dearly, cant waste a minute, pity we have to sleep aswell aye??
1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator. 2. absolute, imperious, or overbearing power or control. 3. the office or position held by a dictator. 4. the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner. 5. the feeling of being heavily burdened, mentally or physically, by troubles, adverse conditions, anxiety, etc.
Suivaloom swi·va·loom
–noun
1. a moronic Sony fanatic that burdens the C&VG forums with his presence. 2. a type of frog
Brilliant! However, I think it is missing a definition. Perhaps it could also be used as a verb - to do a "suiv": to make a nonsensical, hypocritical, unbalanced and insulting forum post, usually written with highlighted or otherwise formatted text in a style heavily reminiscent of tabloid newspaper editorials.
If ANYTHING takes 30 minutes to install on your PS3, your console is either faulty, you have a bad net connection or you are completeley lying.
(PS the xbot presence in here is quite overwhelming )
far be it from me to jump into a debate between moderators (lol, maybe when they visit forums like these Moderator should be taken from underneath their screen name?) and the general site visitor, but i have seldom had a firmware intall last more than 10 minutes, and that's including downloading and installing. i think the trophy support one stretched to 15 minutes, but none ever 30. i think faulty connections must be the reason.
still, i find it comical that people complain about updates. bricked PS3s or RRoD 360s, sure. but updates? i rather enjoy the new features updates add; in particular, i will definitely enjoy this screen grabbing...can't wait to customize my XBM with personal in-game images. not sure i'm looking forward to the new look of the 360's Dashboard though.
If ANYTHING takes 30 minutes to install on your PS3, your console is either faulty, you have a bad net connection or you are completeley lying.
I've heard the 'bad connection' line before, and had put it down to the wireless connection, but having tried with the same Ethernet cable my xbox uses, I have the same speed issues.
Perhaps it is a faulty console. Not sure I'm willing to send my launch 60GB model back, though, at the risk of it returning minus some features and in a new guise.
hi everyone , i personally havent downloaded any new firmwares for my ps3 ive had it for 4 months and seen a few firmwares released , ill just wait a few more months and download one big firmware all in one go , easy , oh yeah, off topic, when i play bluray (ps3 hdmi) i have a green horizontal line at the bottom , does any firmware fix this ? or is it the hdmi lead ? anyone cheers
I'm sorry, but Ive noticed a few of the 'moderators' on here are extremely biased (leaning towards the 360) i don't think i have ever read anything via daedulas (whatever the spelling may be) to be genuinely positive to anything ps3 related, granted he 'tries' to give an indifferent view (but we all know in our hearts where his true agenda lies) (there's another chap posting on here too, but i cant be bottomd to find his name)...C+VG, how is the tag 'moderator' given out?? is it due to kudos points?? If so i think these 'two' should be struck off just my opinion, but if there's nothing 'really' constructive as opposed to thinly veiled snipes, then i have no respect for you as a gaming website... p.s i dont mind updates, it keeps my console in check...and just because 1.5 people had trouble with 2.40, doesnt mean that any 'moderator' worth his salt can also 'claim' to of been hit by it...it's b******s!
Regarding the blu-ray playback , its probably something to do with your setup as oppose to a problem with the ps3, or a patch to fix that.
Regarding download times, ive been lucky i guess because none of my downloads have taken longer than 10mins to implement (including install). I would say however one of my freinds complains about the ps3 download times being longer than his 360 downloads. i guess it depends on a number of factors though (network setup, server usage etc etc ). I find the PSN store downloads to be incredibly quick at ALL times. However some in game patches especially MGS online, can take longer. In the case of MGSO it took me 4 hours to download the latest patch :@
hi everyone , i personally havent downloaded any new firmwares for my ps3 ive had it for 4 months and seen a few firmwares released , ill just wait a few more months and download one big firmware all in one go , easy , oh yeah, off topic, when i play bluray (ps3 hdmi) i have a green horizontal line at the bottom , does any firmware fix this ? or is it the hdmi lead ? anyone cheers
If ANYTHING takes 30 minutes to install on your PS3, your console is either faulty, you have a bad net connection or you are completeley lying.
I've heard the 'bad connection' line before, and had put it down to the wireless connection, but having tried with the same Ethernet cable my xbox uses, I have the same speed issues.
Perhaps it is a faulty console. Not sure I'm willing to send my launch 60GB model back, though, at the risk of it returning minus some features and in a new guise.
i'm not really ruling out the possibility that some PS3's just take longer to update than others. i myself have a 60gig launch PS3, and am perfectly happy with it. i somewhat understand your trepidation with sending it back, but i seriously doubt Sony would tamper with any of it's features, especially since the biggest advantage the 60gig model has over others is BC, which is a hardware issue.
still (and no offense to anyone), i personally think it's just petty to complain about how long it takes to update your system. it's seldom any more than a few minutes, and it adds features. to each his own, i guess.
Green line problem: Try changing the video playback settings on your PS3, so that it is RGB instead of Automatic. This should cure the problem, let me know if it works or not.
Green line problem: Try changing the video playback settings on your PS3, so that it is RGB instead of Automatic. This should cure the problem, let me know if it works or not.
Christ...i swore not to come here again, and guess what I'm pulled right back into you whining little c**ts (maybe I'm a masochist) suivaloom = kudos from me (granted a lot of the 360 fanboys find him irritating, but he has some fair points, and wont back down to 'oppression' via stalwarts of another system) Marky..er...1973 = kudos from me too (i don't understand how a 'moderator' calls him childish even though he owns both consoles?) as far as im concerned it is these so called 'moderators' that are causing all the FUD and baiting- is this due to more hits and more advertising revenue C+VG? seriously, these guys cant help themselves..if this is the case i hope that you feel truly ashamed Just because someone owns both consoles doesn't mean that it is their god given right to bash the 'other' (as far as i'm concerned it is nothing but a smokescreen, to conceal the fact that they dont infact own both, but lends them weight when trying to be 'objective') one word...w@nkers
To those that are claiming that the moderators here are somehow biased, are perhaps even fanboys, and are unable to be competent at their supposed roles - you are, of course, completely correct. It is rare to see such dedicated, mediocre and tedious fanboyism, lacking even the most obvious attempts at credibility or objectivity that any teenager would be rightfully ashamed to neglect. That CVG has sunk to such lows recently with its inaccurate reporting, woeful grasp of basic English and general disregard for any sort of journalistic standards and that this should be further compounded by the use of moderators who lack moderation, intelligence, wit, fairness and decency is frankly a disgrace.
To those that are claiming that the moderators here are somehow biased, are perhaps even fanboys, and are unable to be competent at their supposed roles - you are, of course, completely correct. It is rare to see such dedicated, mediocre and tedious fanboyism, lacking even the most obvious attempts at credibility or objectivity that any teenager would be rightfully ashamed to neglect. That CVG has sunk to such lows recently with its inaccurate reporting, woeful grasp of basic English and general disregard for any sort of journalistic standards and that this should be further compounded by the use of moderators whose lack of moderation, intelligence, wit, fairness and decency is frankly a disgrace.
hear, hear... If this doesnt rattle some cages (and hopefully teach some lessons) then i dont know 'what' from 'which' Salutes all round for Firenfunk
Well its another near damned update for the ps3 which doesnt make me happy, at least this time it is delivering something vaguely useful.
yet another cynical comment.
just sell your ps3 and be done with it you big baby and stop crying about it!
So you reply with another cry baby comment?
He expressed his opinion, which is probably the opinion of many who own the system. Another update, which will take 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to install. I have spent more time updating the firmware on my PS3 than I have actually playing the bloody thing.
Sony really should have looked at the bigger picture when designing its hardware, maybe they should have spent another year with the development process.
Dear oh dear. PS3s hardware is fantastically built. I know, I own one.
I think you have mistaken the PS3 for the 360, what with all those FPS's coming out for the PS3.
Lastly, you are moaning about a free service. It is by no means a bad service. These updates are designed to improve it. Surely you could spend more time moaning about paying for XBL or the build quality of the 360 no?
Maybe not.
Some people have had more replacement PS3's than I have had replacement 360's. My total replacements since I got mine on launch day, is 1. I have had more crashes in the short time of playing a PS3 than I have on my 360.
Go figure that one out.
Secondly, I would rather pay my Ł40 a year for the most integrated service you could ask for, for online gaming. The whole way that the 360 is set up for online play is brilliant, hence why I have only gone online once on my PS3, with Motorstorm.
Why are all the moderators such complete and utter anti sony Xbots?
Coming CVG, get these guys out of the PS3 forums and ban them from posting here!!!
hi everyone , i personally havent downloaded any new firmwares for my ps3 ive had it for 4 months and seen a few firmwares released , ill just wait a few more months and download one big firmware all in one go , easy , oh yeah, off topic, when i play bluray (ps3 hdmi) i have a green horizontal line at the bottom , does any firmware fix this ? or is it the hdmi lead ? anyone cheers
Send me 50p and I'll tell you.
you must be a real tree of knowledge ,haha ,50p for information i can get anywhere
Green line problem: Try changing the video playback settings on your PS3, so that it is RGB instead of Automatic. This should cure the problem, let me know if it works or not.
thanks for the info jules ,it worked perfectly , good man
Cracking stuff today gang! I saw the headline on the news page, thought 'update, big deal' then came to my senses and knew this would be a 100+ thread with all the predictable stuff going on.
An anti Sony post, PS3 owners reacting to it, Suivaloom talking Sony (his first language). k109 coming along and complaining about anti sony bias too, mark showing more and more signs of being a sony fanboy (he's getting so, so touchy about any anti Sony commment and I'm sure it's all within the last month or so).
To be honest on the PC and wii (I've hardly had any that I can think of on the 360 and they've been pretty quick and painless), updates are annoying but if they make the system more stable then grand, but shouldn't the programmers have sorted this out straight away, in much the same way you can get your RRoD replaced, but it never should have happened (I'm not comparing an update to having to send your console off either by the way). But then if they're making the experience better and adding features what's the problem?!? But what about people who don't have internet or their consoles connected (they do exist!!).
Is thinking something is crap being biased? Maybe a lot of people are making anti Sony comments because Sony have been pretty s**t this generation. I really think they are starting to get their act together now though after realising they can't just arrogantly do and say what they want and people keep buying it (well apart from the obvious posters on here). I can't see a reason to get one at the moment having got a 360 now, but if I still just had the wii it would be a very close call.
All I have said, is that as a system, the 360, whilst not as reliable in it's hardware, (for some), is a lot more reliable in its operation and implementation of updates and patches.
That doesn't make sense. The 360 is more reliable in its operation but not as reliable in its hardware? I've never been bothered by updates from either console. The fact that someone has actually taken the time to count and tally them is amazing. Do updates to Windows Visa or your anti virus bother you? If time is that precious to you guys that a download is a serious burden on your busy schedule then maybe you shouldn't be sitting on your bottom all day having a stupid argument on a forum or spending that time playing games on a console. What a load of nonsense over a petty story.
DAEDALUS79: You might want to read this and you should maybe you will stop being such a fanboy and hater. Every you wrote falls on dead air because is all lies. Get a life every ps3 update was useful stop all u trash talking you should be demoted from moderator to fire. All u who think this ignorant is correct go here and prove him wrong like he already is.
This is a new low - I want you all to go back, read every post and see exactly how Suivaloom actually succeeded in bringing havoc to this forum - yes, yes - he is many things, but most of all a wind-up merchant...and a good one at that, by the looks of things.
Seriously, leave the moderators out of it - that's just ridiculous; they're as entitled to an opinion as anyone here - but, they've generally contributed more.
Who deserves banning? - those that have added greatly to the site, or those that call those people 't***ers'?
If you ask me, nobody. We're all entitled to our opinion and reserve the right to talk utter b******s when we like - that's what this forum is for...let's chalk this one up to experience and come back tomorrow....
Christ...i swore not to come here again, and guess what I'm pulled right back into you whining little c**ts (maybe I'm a masochist) suivaloom = kudos from me (granted a lot of the 360 fanboys find him irritating, but he has some fair points, and wont back down to 'oppression' via stalwarts of another system) Marky..er...1973 = kudos from me too (i don't understand how a 'moderator' calls him childish even though he owns both consoles?) as far as im concerned it is these so called 'moderators' that are causing all the FUD and baiting- is this due to more hits and more advertising revenue C+VG? seriously, these guys cant help themselves..if this is the case i hope that you feel truly ashamed Just because someone owns both consoles doesn't mean that it is their god given right to bash the 'other' (as far as i'm concerned it is nothing but a smokescreen, to conceal the fact that they dont infact own both, but lends them weight when trying to be 'objective') one word...w@nkers
Cheers for the kudos, dude! I don't get much of that from this site. But that is what you get for being honest - and honesty is sadly lacking around these parts. Gamers should respect each others preferences. I know that I come across as a Sony fanboy - but i'm not ashamed to be called one. If my personal preference was 360, I would still own a PS3, but my opinions would favour the 360. That's the truth. I just feel that the PS3 is a better machine for my needs. The 360 is great, but there has been little to shout about this year in terms of 360 games, if I am being honest.
hi everyone , i personally havent downloaded any new firmwares for my ps3 ive had it for 4 months and seen a few firmwares released , ill just wait a few more months and download one big firmware all in one go , easy , oh yeah, off topic, when i play bluray (ps3 hdmi) i have a green horizontal line at the bottom , does any firmware fix this ? or is it the hdmi lead ? anyone cheers
Send me 50p and I'll tell you.
you must be a real tree of knowledge ,haha ,50p for information i can get anywhere
You people think that we, as moderators, should have this saint like halo over our heads and agree with everything you say? I don't think so somehow.
I have my own opinions on what I like, everybody else has theirs, plain and simple, or so you would have thought.
We are here to be approachable and level headed, whilst keeping the main part of the forums in some sort of respectable order, which does not include this article forum. You accuse us of being Xbots, yet want us to be modbots.
Show me one post where I state that I hate the PS3. Yes, I dislike certain aspects of it, but I don't hate it, otherwise, why would I own one? I just prefer my 360 as a games machine, as it does more for my gaming needs at the moment, compared to what my PS3 offers me.
Yes, there are a couple of aspects I dislike about the 360, but that is mainly the sound of the DVD drive when playing a game.
Just stop putting us on some pedestal expecting us to bow down to your every request. Just because I am a Mod and like the 360 over the PS3 and you don't like it, doesn't change the fact that I have my own opinion on what I like. Calling me a liar for saying that my updates take around 30 minutes, now that is just plain pettiness and, in all intents, just clutching at straws. Prove me wrong...
This is a new low - I want you all to go back, read every post and see exactly how Suivaloom actually succeeded in bringing havoc to this forum - yes, yes - he is many things, but most of all a wind-up merchant...and a good one at that, by the looks of things.
Seriously, leave the moderators out of it - that's just ridiculous; they're as entitled to an opinion as anyone here - but, they've generally contributed more.
Who deserves banning? - those that have added greatly to the site, or those that call those people 't***ers'?
If you ask me, nobody. We're all entitled to our opinion and reserve the right to talk utter b******s when we like - that's what this forum is for...let's chalk this one up to experience and come back tomorrow....
I'm not even entirely sure where this mis-conception of what moderators do came from. They are not employed by C&VG, and hold a voluntary position. Their duty is to enforce the rules of this forum, nothing more. They are as much entitled to an opinion as anyone else who frequents this board - whether that's contrary to popular opinion or otherwise.
Many of you guys opinions on what moderators do is as twisted as your world views.
Jeebus guys, thats just sad. Criticising a mod for having an opinion? Yeah, thats just pathetic, isn't it? As previously pointed out, Rolync and co aren't even mods of this forum, and even if they were, why shouldn't they be entitled to say what they think? Moderators are not required to be some guru of godly knowledge and otherworldly impartiality.
Also, has anyone noticed when someone makes a pro-360 comment they're automatically tarred an 'xbot', regardless of whether what they're saying is a reasoned, thought-out observation or just a load of b******s? True, the same can be said of some people criticising pro-PS3 posters, but I don't notice that happening as much.
Just think for a second though. Maybe theres a reason there are apparently more community members who are more vocal about the merits of the 360 than those who are vocal about the merits of the PS3. Perhaps this is simple demographics, with more 360 owners in this country than PS3 owners at the minute. Or perhaps its something to do with the consoles themselves...
Jeebus guys, thats just sad. Criticising a mod for having an opinion? Yeah, thats just pathetic, isn't it? As previously pointed out, Rolync and co aren't even mods of this forum, and even if they were, why shouldn't they be entitled to say what they think? Moderators are not required to be some guru of godly knowledge and otherworldly impartiality.
Also, has anyone noticed when someone makes a pro-360 comment they're automatically tarred an 'xbot', regardless of whether what they're saying is a reasoned, thought-out observation or just a load of b******s? True, the same can be said of some people criticising pro-PS3 posters, but I don't notice that happening as much.
Just think for a second though. Maybe theres a reason there are apparently more community members who are more vocal about the merits of the 360 than those who are vocal about the merits of the PS3. Perhaps this is simple demographics, with more 360 owners in this country than PS3 owners at the minute. Or perhaps its something to do with the consoles themselves...
just a little food for thought, there.
You are totally correct. Sadly, this is exactly what many people (myself included) have been trying to say for ages but a small minority of people, with multiple logins, are totally unable to appreciate that there might be an opinion differing from their own. These people state rumor and opinion as fact, and resort to childish baiting when asked to back up their claims, and then log in under a different id to make it appear as though they are being supported (points at tam/suivaloom).
I don't agree with everything the mods say, but they are entitled to their opinion just as we all are, and they usually state their opinions in a reasoned, well-thought-out manner. Human nature prevents us from being totally unbiased - bias is part of what makes us individuals. I, for one, prefer to hear a mod voice their opinion on something, even if i dont agree to it, rather than having one that sits on the forums, borg-like. If we deny mods the ability to voice their opinion, then they would not be allowed to post at all.
Jeebus guys, thats just sad. Criticising a mod for having an opinion? Yeah, thats just pathetic, isn't it? As previously pointed out, Rolync and co aren't even mods of this forum, and even if they were, why shouldn't they be entitled to say what they think? Moderators are not required to be some guru of godly knowledge and otherworldly impartiality.
Also, has anyone noticed when someone makes a pro-360 comment they're automatically tarred an 'xbot', regardless of whether what they're saying is a reasoned, thought-out observation or just a load of b******s? True, the same can be said of some people criticising pro-PS3 posters, but I don't notice that happening as much.
Just think for a second though. Maybe theres a reason there are apparently more community members who are more vocal about the merits of the 360 than those who are vocal about the merits of the PS3. Perhaps this is simple demographics, with more 360 owners in this country than PS3 owners at the minute. Or perhaps its something to do with the consoles themselves...
just a little food for thought, there.
Maybe most PS3 owners just don't bother with this site anymore. Old stories, flame stories and any PS3 storys awash with moderators and 360 fanboys telling us satisfied PS3 owners how crap anything PS3 is.
This thread is a story about a rumoured firmware update. Look how it turned out. A bit like the new PS3 for sale story. Or any other Sony related story. Pathetic.
Just a little food for thought, there.
Funny how nobody notices all the positive comments that I write in 360 related threads. That's why they don't turn into flamewars. Oh, and because not as many people are interested in 360 anymore.
Maybe most PS3 owners just don't bother with this site anymore. Old stories, flame stories and any PS3 storys awash with moderators and 360 fanboys telling us satisfied PS3 owners how crap anything PS3 is.
Go back and look through this thread and look how that all started. A not especially negative comment got said, and literally every Sony disciple came out the woodwork to jump down his throat. As was previously stated, are the forums supposed to be reserved for purely positve statements?
This thread is a story about a rumoured firmware update. Look how it turned out. A bit like the new PS3 for sale story. Or any other Sony related story. Pathetic.
Said Sony disciples were at least as responsible as anyone else for this thread going to sh*t. At least being generous.
Just a little food for thought, there.
Funny how nobody notices all the positive comments that I write in 360 related threads. That's why they don't turn into flamewars. Oh, and because not as many people are interested in 360 anymore.
Another little food for thought. Right there.
Perhaps they don't turn into flame wars because 360 fans don't seem to have a defence force that take any slight against the console as abuse hurled at their lineage, and so feel the need to defend it, whatever the cost. Be that with false claims regarding private messaging, long lists of exclusives, or what.
If there's one thing I've learned from browsing these forums over the last few weeks, it's that the PS3 obviously emits some sort of bizarre mind-ray that drives people f**king bats**t crazy.
I'm giving mine to my brother, I honestly don't feel safe with it in the house anymore.
Maybe most PS3 owners just don't bother with this site anymore. Old stories, flame stories and any PS3 storys awash with moderators and 360 fanboys telling us satisfied PS3 owners how crap anything PS3 is.
Go back and look through this thread and look how that all started. A not especially negative comment got said, and literally every Sony disciple came out the woodwork to jump down his throat. As was previously stated, are the forums supposed to be reserved for purely positve statements?
This thread is a story about a rumoured firmware update. Look how it turned out. A bit like the new PS3 for sale story. Or any other Sony related story. Pathetic.
Said Sony disciples were at least as responsible as anyone else for this thread going to sh*t. At least being generous.
Just a little food for thought, there.
Funny how nobody notices all the positive comments that I write in 360 related threads. That's why they don't turn into flamewars. Oh, and because not as many people are interested in 360 anymore.
Another little food for thought. Right there.
Perhaps they don't turn into flame wars because 360 fans don't seem to have a defence force that take any slight against the console as abuse hurled at their lineage, and so feel the need to defend it, whatever the cost. Be that with false claims regarding private messaging, long lists of exclusives, or what.
Just some food for thought... As its lunchtime.
no, that's because MOST ps3 owners don't bother going into 360 threads/stories and bash it..well i dont anyway, i couldn't give a flying f**k through a rolling donut whats on the 360..i don't own one! hence me not being interested. What gets my back up, is that 360 stalwarts (pretending to own both consoles but never 'play' their ps3's) deliberately posting FUD and flame bait (ooohh the 360 downloads firmware quicker) etc... you only have to look (as mark pointed out) at EVERY ps3 related topic, they are usually 100+ comments(usually with lots of 'mehs' and the usual hyperbole)...why is this then eh??? food for thought?? here's a f**kin banquet
Maybe most PS3 owners just don't bother with this site anymore. Old stories, flame stories and any PS3 storys awash with moderators and 360 fanboys telling us satisfied PS3 owners how crap anything PS3 is.
Go back and look through this thread and look how that all started. A not especially negative comment got said, and literally every Sony disciple came out the woodwork to jump down his throat. As was previously stated, are the forums supposed to be reserved for purely positve statements?
This thread is a story about a rumoured firmware update. Look how it turned out. A bit like the new PS3 for sale story. Or any other Sony related story. Pathetic.
Said Sony disciples were at least as responsible as anyone else for this thread going to sh*t. At least being generous.
Just a little food for thought, there.
Funny how nobody notices all the positive comments that I write in 360 related threads. That's why they don't turn into flamewars. Oh, and because not as many people are interested in 360 anymore.
Another little food for thought. Right there.
Perhaps they don't turn into flame wars because 360 fans don't seem to have a defence force that take any slight against the console as abuse hurled at their lineage, and so feel the need to defend it, whatever the cost. Be that with false claims regarding private messaging, long lists of exclusives, or what.
Just some food for thought... As its lunchtime.
no, that's because MOST ps3 owners don't bother going into 360 threads/stories and bash it..well i dont anyway, i couldn't give a flying f**k through a rolling donut whats on the 360..i don't own one! hence me not being interested. What gets my back up, is that 360 stalwarts (pretending to own both consoles but never 'play' their ps3's) deliberately posting FUD and flame bait (ooohh the 360 downloads firmware quicker) etc... you only have to look (as mark pointed out) at EVERY ps3 related topic, they are usually 100+ comments(usually with lots of 'mehs' and the usual hyperbole)...why is this then eh??? food for thought?? here's a f**kin banquet
Me thinks Marty wants to be in the Moderator club.
As a reply to the post about people upgrading firmware without an internet connection to their ps3, you can either download the update via a pc, then using a USB device copy and install it on your ps3. (MUCH QUICKER THAN USING THE PS3 DOWNLOAD, SO THERES A SOLUTION). OR you can buy the official playstation magazine, and the demo disc includes the latest firmware release. So i guess no problem with slow downloads anymore
Maybe most PS3 owners just don't bother with this site anymore. Old stories, flame stories and any PS3 storys awash with moderators and 360 fanboys telling us satisfied PS3 owners how crap anything PS3 is.
Go back and look through this thread and look how that all started. A not especially negative comment got said, and literally every Sony disciple came out the woodwork to jump down his throat. As was previously stated, are the forums supposed to be reserved for purely positve statements?
This thread is a story about a rumoured firmware update. Look how it turned out. A bit like the new PS3 for sale story. Or any other Sony related story. Pathetic.
Said Sony disciples were at least as responsible as anyone else for this thread going to sh*t. At least being generous.
Just a little food for thought, there.
Funny how nobody notices all the positive comments that I write in 360 related threads. That's why they don't turn into flamewars. Oh, and because not as many people are interested in 360 anymore.
Another little food for thought. Right there.
Perhaps they don't turn into flame wars because 360 fans don't seem to have a defence force that take any slight against the console as abuse hurled at their lineage, and so feel the need to defend it, whatever the cost. Be that with false claims regarding private messaging, long lists of exclusives, or what.
Just some food for thought... As its lunchtime.
no, that's because MOST ps3 owners don't bother going into 360 threads/stories and bash it..well i dont anyway, i couldn't give a flying f**k through a rolling donut whats on the 360..i don't own one! hence me not being interested. What gets my back up, is that 360 stalwarts (pretending to own both consoles but never 'play' their ps3's) deliberately posting FUD and flame bait (ooohh the 360 downloads firmware quicker) etc... you only have to look (as mark pointed out) at EVERY ps3 related topic, they are usually 100+ comments(usually with lots of 'mehs' and the usual hyperbole)...why is this then eh??? food for thought?? here's a f**kin banquet
Me thinks Marty wants to be in the Moderator club.
yep...do you think they have to roll up one trouser leg and do some funny handshakes to get in?? or maybe 'turn around in a full circle'?
Maybe most PS3 owners just don't bother with this site anymore. Old stories, flame stories and any PS3 storys awash with moderators and 360 fanboys telling us satisfied PS3 owners how crap anything PS3 is.
Go back and look through this thread and look how that all started. A not especially negative comment got said, and literally every Sony disciple came out the woodwork to jump down his throat. As was previously stated, are the forums supposed to be reserved for purely positve statements?
This thread is a story about a rumoured firmware update. Look how it turned out. A bit like the new PS3 for sale story. Or any other Sony related story. Pathetic.
Said Sony disciples were at least as responsible as anyone else for this thread going to sh*t. At least being generous.
Just a little food for thought, there.
Funny how nobody notices all the positive comments that I write in 360 related threads. That's why they don't turn into flamewars. Oh, and because not as many people are interested in 360 anymore.
Another little food for thought. Right there.
Perhaps they don't turn into flame wars because 360 fans don't seem to have a defence force that take any slight against the console as abuse hurled at their lineage, and so feel the need to defend it, whatever the cost. Be that with false claims regarding private messaging, long lists of exclusives, or what.
Just some food for thought... As its lunchtime.
no, that's because MOST ps3 owners don't bother going into 360 threads/stories and bash it..well i dont anyway, i couldn't give a flying f**k through a rolling donut whats on the 360..i don't own one! hence me not being interested. What gets my back up, is that 360 stalwarts (pretending to own both consoles but never 'play' their ps3's) deliberately posting FUD and flame bait (ooohh the 360 downloads firmware quicker) etc... you only have to look (as mark pointed out) at EVERY ps3 related topic, they are usually 100+ comments(usually with lots of 'mehs' and the usual hyperbole)...why is this then eh??? food for thought?? here's a f**kin banquet
Me thinks Marty wants to be in the Moderator club.
yep...do you think they have to roll up one trouser leg and do some funny handshakes to get in?? or maybe 'turn around in a full circle'?
Ha ha, possibly. Or maybe you just have to be a miserable, cynical bastard.
no, that's because MOST ps3 owners don't bother going into 360 threads/stories and bash it..well i dont anyway, i couldn't give a flying f**k through a rolling donut whats on the 360..i don't own one! hence me not being interested.
Well, that's where you and I differ. My interest lies with gaming - all games. Not just one specific platforms games. I'll read any and all stories on the main page, and comment on any that I wish to. I may not own a PS3 yet, but I'll never say never (Heavy Rain looks amazing from what I've seen of it so far, and could very well be the one that makes me take the leap), so I like to keep up to date with what is happening.
I currently own a Wii, 360 and PC, have never made claims about owning a PS3, and will not until such a time that I do, should I do.
And no Mark, I couldn't give two stuffs about being a moderator. Why would I want to waste my time doing that - it's a thankless task at best.
no, that's because MOST ps3 owners don't bother going into 360 threads/stories and bash it..well i dont anyway, i couldn't give a flying f**k through a rolling donut whats on the 360..i don't own one! hence me not being interested.
Well, that's where you and I differ. My interest lies with gaming - all games. Not just one specific platforms games. I'll read any and all stories on the main page, and comment on any that I wish to. I may not own a PS3 yet, but I'll never say never (Heavy Rain looks amazing from what I've seen of it so far, and could very well be the one that makes me take the leap), so I like to keep up to date with what is happening.
I currently own a Wii, 360 and PC, have never made claims about owning a PS3, and will not until such a time that I do, should I do.
And no Mark, I couldn't give two stuffs about being a moderator. Why would I want to waste my time doing that - it's a thankless task at best.
ok, so by that logic (due to me not owning a 360) it's perfectly acceptable for me to go over to 360 game info and say 'meh' for no apparent reason eh?
i couldn't give a flying f**k through a rolling donut whats on the 360..i don't own one! hence me not being interested.
And that's the definition of a fanboy.
You dismiss games that appear on another system and remain loyal (for some bizarre reason) to Sony.
You will find the most balanced people on the forums are interested in GAMES and not the brand name of the system that provides them. The problem you have is that you simply refuse to accept the that the PS3 game catalogue is crap compared to the 360, the online functionality does not compare and many people are turning away from Sony and the PS3 because they are sick and tired of the continual announcements regarding delays and updates for the console which don't help GAMING one iota.
And before you start crying and shouting that I'm an xbot or that I have a red ring etc etc....I don't own a 360 or a PS3 but am well aware that the 360 is a much better console to own for the GAMING experience.
ive just got a ps3 i allready own a 360 which is off at microsoft for the 4th time in 2 years, and ive gotta admit if i just owned a ps3 id be gutted the game selection is poor to say the least bar mgs all the best5 games are on 360 and then some,but like i said my 360s broke yet again so what can u do? i do think the 360 and ps3 are closer to each other than any previous generation war(ive been around for a lot of em) it just comes down to software(360) and reliability(ps3) the upgrades on the ps3 do my head in they take forever especially after installing something,very annoying
Only problem I had with my ps3 in the 9 months I've had it is the fact that GT5P won't work after the last update, I select a car and race type and then screen goes blank but I can still hear music and engine sounds, but to be honest I'm not too bothered about the firmware updates I'm not sure what connection some people have but it takes 5 minutes max always has done for me. As for downloads in general its swift enough (have 8mb) as for the general service and overall quality of PSN its more than adequate for the price I can't see why anyone would complain about it other than being clever. I have a 360 also before people think I'm some kind of fanboy Because I am far from it. As for GT5P it will be gone next friday I'm getting shot and trading it in (along with ga4) towards Little Big Planet PSN id is same as my forum name if anyone wants to add me and play a game some time. I don't use 360 online just play GOW1 and eventually 2 and hats all. Hope I upset no one Just expressing my opinion on whats become a stupidly hate filled topic.
New to this forum. My friend's 80gb PS3 died last night. His firmware was 2.42. His PS3 died while he was playing Resistance.
I have a 40gb and firmware 2.42... I am now afraid to play with it as I dont want my PS3 to break too. I am thinking of updating it to 2.5 but am afraid to...
Has anyone had problems with the latest firmware 2.5?
As far as I'm aware Joe 2.5 works fine I've not read of any problems with it and none of the "people" here have said nothing bad about it (apart from the usual die hards) that nobody takes them serious.
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at this whole thread.
Maybe the next "next guy" will though.
update took almost an hour to download and install, though downloads from the PSN are much quicker than firmware and patches for some reason.
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