Back in June, a rep from Sony popped into the PSW office with a version of Killzone 2 he'd prized out of the clamp-like grip of Guerrilla, the developer working on PS3's premier shooter. We sat and played all day and though the demo was short, it was packed with incident.
That exclusive cover story, the UK's first hands-on play test of Killzone 2, was just a taster of what was to come. This issue PSW managed to get another hands-on, playing the same level, but further on. The mission is the second in the game and comes after the training sections. It's the first mission proper against the Helghast and sees Sev and his Alpha team attacking the coastal town of Corinth to secure its resources.
The opening is a rush of tracer fire, explosions and shrieking that mimics the classic opener from Medal Of Honor: Frontlines. The objective is to overrun the entrenched Helghast positions and secure the beach for the main force to land as they zoom in on flying sleds.
Familiar controls Controls feel very similar to Call Of Duty 4 - you can zip to a down-the-scope view for improved accuracy, fire from the hip and throw grenades at the touch of a button. Running is assigned to L3 COD-style, and you can hug cover using L1. From cover you can blind-fire or poke your head out to take potshots, and unlike Rainbow Six Vegas 2 this all remains firmly in first-person.
As I began popping Helghast in the head, legs and arms, watching them react as every bullet found its target was massively satisfying. The animation is superb and ensures that every shot you fire feels solid. This encouraged me to experiment with each pull of the trigger. Best of all, this play through puts to bed many of the concerns I had over Killzone 2. The original PS2 game wasn't great, shooting accuracy and balance of weapons being a major fault, but this sequel has been polished to within an inch of its alien-bashing life.
I moved on, off the beach, through a warehouse full of Helghast (reinforcements crashed through the roof in startling fashion) and eventually made it to the Sixaxis-controlled switch. Holding L1 and R1 you 'grab' the wheel and turn it by going through the motions of turning a wheel - neat. This is the moment where everything got turned up to eleven.
Once past the checkpoint where my previous playtest ended, everything was new. Ahead was an open space littered with handy cover - rubble, concrete slabs and broken masonry.
Almost as soon I set foot onto the field, all hell broke loose and a lone gun post on top of a bombed-out tower block peppered my squad. Using cover I scurried to an abandoned gun turret and fired back. An oil barrel below the entrenched enemy caught my eye and a couple of shots later the thing exploded, bringing down the entire building with a boom. Sure, it's massively scripted and shows Killzone 2 isn't that original, but it does put on one hell of a show.
This was more evident the further into the level I played after demolishing the tower block with a well-placed shot to that clichéd barrel I came across the real battle. Ahead of me were a dozen Helghast, behind me were my squad and armoured support.
Here comes the tank As the fire-fight took hold, using cover positions to progress and fend off the Helghast troops while enjoying the sight of enemies' hats pinging off with well-aimed headshots, I got a shock as a huge tank burst onto the scene.
The tank was mine, luckily. But as it arrived, so did a small army of Helghast, too many for me to deal with - so I retreated to a trench and watched the tank deal with the problem. While my tank was mopping up, I soon came under attack from one of the game's mini-bosses, an armour-clad mini-gun carrying Helghan with a handy weak spot on his back in the shape of an explosive canister.
The trick here is to use the accurate shooting mechanic to hit the boss in the leg, forcing him to spin and stumble around, exposing his back. Once again, just experimenting with the guns and body specific targeting proves fun and valuable.
All too quickly my armour was blown off and the little guy sitting in the tank turret bit the dust. Spying another scripted event, I jumped onto the tank, taking control of the armoured beast.
As you would expect, controls follow the Battlefield template, the Left thumbstick moves the tank, the Right stick controls the camera and R1 and R2 fire missiles and machine-guns respectively. The arcing tracer fire from the machine-gun looks incredibly realistic and like the guns in general, feels accurate when strafing; groups of Helghast in overhead gantry positions flailed satisfyingly as I sprayed hot orange bullets in their direction.
Flying sparks As an enemy tank drew up onto the battlefield, surrounded by even more Helghast troops, sparks flew as shells and bullets landed on masonry and steel, and I woke up to Killzone 2's pull.
This isn't an original game, it's COD4 with Space Marines, but no other game has the ability to grab you by the throat and shake you so much. The experience equates to that first time you stormed the beach at the beginning of Medal Of Honor: Frontline, or that moment following a battle in Bad Company as you glance back at your handy work to see smoke, fire and holed buildings. You did that. You are a war machine.
Visible in the distance, Helghast reinforcements begin arriving in large numbers. In my immediate vicinity, my squad was going to work on the current Helghast ranks - the AI looking like it can take care of itself - and somewhere in the middle of all the smoke the Helghast tank was still going strong.
Atmosphere seems to be Killzone 2's biggest success. It has it in spades. The game's controls, missions and pacing all feel very familiar, but it's all done with such panache that you can't help get sucked into Guerrilla's compelling vision of future war.
There are question marks over the level of scripted events. Guerrilla are masters of setting up the blockbuster set-piece battle, but is that enough? Can Killzone 2 better COD4 online? The Badge system that enables you to customise character set-ups, creating hybrids of familiar classes such as Scouts, Engineers, Medics, etc could prove revolutionary.
Killzone 2 is really shaping into something special.
The Badge system that enables you to customise character set-ups, creating hybrids of familiar classes such as Scouts, Engineers, Medics, etc could prove revolutionary.
bloody buggering hell!! i really cant wait for this to land (then i can jump off the dropship and start blasting heads) Ive said it before, and i'll say it again, the first killzone was ace online! (granted the single player was a bit of a let down) but i spent many months playing the first online (cooking grenades, before being shot and watching the other team run past, just for your grenade to kill them all, was one of the best online experiences ive ever had!) please keep this little perk in the new version i'm sure it will probably get bashed for being to grey, but in the end i really do believe that this is going to be something really special...i cannea wait
The Badge system that enables you to customise character set-ups, creating hybrids of familiar classes such as Scouts, Engineers, Medics, etc could prove revolutionary.
Huh?!
But we've never had the two combined
seriously though a gritty futuristic version of COD4, sold!
seriously though a gritty futuristic version of COD4, sold!
Ugh, not sold to me. I like my action much less scripted, please. Give me varied AI over formulaic set pieces any day. No matter how glamerous some of COD4's set pieces look, its all too easy to see just how they are put together if you stray even a little from the beaten path. KZ2 could well prove the same.
And the art style is so utterly lacking its untrue. Give me something with a little character, please! Don't base the entire imagery about the glowing orange eyes ffs...
Still, its a more positive preview than I'd feared, and I'm actually a little more enthused for it. Probably a rent for me, though.
Dont care what people say loved the first game and really looking forward to killzone 2. You better pull this off sony please god please .................
Surely an FPS nowadays is made or broke by the online play - you have a great online experience, and the single player can be excusably short (CoD4) or even average. Have a weak online, and the game will fall into obscurity.
Of course, if a game has both, then you have a sure fire hit.
Good grief the screenshots really are grey though I know next to nothing about Killzone (1 or 2) - is the setting pretty much the same all the way through, or is there any vegetation etc to brighten things up?
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
I think killzone 2 will be a fun ride. I'd be surprised if it's as good as some ps3 owners are hoping for though.
I know that nutter suiveloom(or whatever his nick was)had this listed in his current ps3 hot-list of upcoming exclusive games. So he has a lot riding on it.
Another game in his list he had high hopes for "Disgaea 3" has just got an average review at gamespot. So it's not a good start for the bonkers fanboy. Even the 360 rpg "Tales of Vesperia" got a much more positive review than Disgaea 3.
I think killzone 2 will be a fun ride. I'd be surprised if it's as good as some ps3 owners are hoping for though.
I know that nutter suiveloom(or whatever his nick was)had this listed in his current ps3 hot-list of upcoming exclusive games. So he has a lot riding on it.
Another game in his list he had high hopes for "Disgaea 3" has just got an average review at gamespot. So it's not a good start for the bonkers fanboy. Even the 360 rpg "Tales of Vesperia" got a much more positive review than Disgaea 3.
He must be beside himself with grief.
Any news that Suivaloom is looking like a tw*t is good to me...
Good grief the screenshots really are grey though I know next to nothing about Killzone (1 or 2) - is the setting pretty much the same all the way through, or is there any vegetation etc to brighten things up?
yeah you're right, it looks very grey and dull. Not like Gears of War 2 with it's use of gentle pink, subdued shading and pastel colours.
F*$k me man what a weak excuse for rubbishing a game. What do you want? Viva Pinata shoot'em up? If you want colourful buy Cosmo.
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
here we go again you are truly the most cynical gamer on the planet...if it doesnt jump out the screen, suck you off, comb your hair, make your tea and do your work for you it is instantly crap..(or is it because it's PS3 exclusive)
This will probably be good, if not particularly original. Personally, I will wait for the review as often games sound great in previews but get marked down later (even Haze sounded promising!).
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
I take it you don't mean Resistance Fall of Man 2? It looks amazingly good graphically. I do agree Resistance wasn't the most polished game but enjoyable all the same. A good launch title. Killzone 2 didn't really do much for me either until I watched the clip showing the online game. It's interesting, well designed and the snipers with the cloaking devices look fun. I'm not totally sold on this game but will be watching the reviews.
I find it funny people still use the 'dull look' and 'lack of colour' card. IT IS MEANT TO BE THAT WAY, IT IS WAR TORN AND MEANT TO BE DARK AND ATMOSPHERIC.
unless you want to running along with your gun shooting people, whilst admiring the colouring array of spring flowers and bunny rabbits and the sound of an ice cream van pulling up.
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
DAEDALUS we just can't get along -
You mysterious 'men' continually chastise Resistance but let me remind you again; Resistance is a better game than Fables. Fables scored lower on Metacritic than the 'universal baiting tool' Resistance.
So no doubt you are gibbering fluids down your f*cking chest over "Fables 2" (suprising as I thought you were the moustache wearing violence-type 20 something male) but the thing that you need to get into your bonce is that Resistance 2 has a better chance of being 'game of the year'. In actual fact that is true.
I find it funny people still use the 'dull look' and 'lack of colour' card. IT IS MEANT TO BE THAT WAY, IT IS WAR TORN AND MEANT TO BE DARK AND ATMOSPHERIC.
unless you want to running along with your gun shooting people, whilst admiring the colouring array of spring flowers and bunny rabbits and the sound of an ice cream van pulling up.
That's it Anagi defend yourself.
I'm here so don't be afraid to express your feelings, the moderabots will happily turn this into another flame-war for their own evil designs.
Good grief the screenshots really are grey though I know next to nothing about Killzone (1 or 2) - is the setting pretty much the same all the way through, or is there any vegetation etc to brighten things up?
yeah you're right, it looks very grey and dull. Not like Gears of War 2 with it's use of gentle pink, subdued shading and pastel colours.
F*$k me man what a weak excuse for rubbishing a game. What do you want? Viva Pinata shoot'em up? If you want colourful buy Cosmo.
Touchy much? Who said I'm a GoW fan? I asked a simple question, and again the Sony defence force jumps down throats. Should I look out my window to see a Playstation sign illuminating the sky?
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
DAEDALUS we just can't get along -
You mysterious 'men' continually chastise Resistance but let me remind you again; Resistance is a better game than Fables. Fables scored lower on Metacritic than the 'universal baiting tool' Resistance.
So no doubt you are gibbering fluids down your f*cking chest over "Fables 2" (suprising as I thought you were the moustache wearing violence-type 20 something male) but the thing that you need to get into your bonce is that Resistance 2 has a better chance of being 'game of the year'. In actual fact that is true.
After reading a few of the comments on this topic i came to the conclusion that your saying, "The game i like is better than the game you like, so nah nanah nah nah."
God im soo tired of fansboys fighting over who has the best exclusives, just play the darn games.
As for the vibrant bright colours some of you are requesting in a full blown apocolyptic future war game i suggest you fiddle with some of the contrasts and colours on your tv to make everything lovely and bright to your liking as i've not seen a gun in any game or film that is bright green, fires red laser beams and turns the battlefield a yellow/orangey colour leaving the skies blue as the purple smoke rises from the aftermath. Having said that would be a USP.
I find it funny people still use the 'dull look' and 'lack of colour' card. IT IS MEANT TO BE THAT WAY, IT IS WAR TORN AND MEANT TO BE DARK AND ATMOSPHERIC.
just do what i do; ignore then. these same people who give KZ2 flak for being gray are the same people who lable Gears of War 2 and CoD4 the best shooters ever, and they're the grayest games we've had this generation.
as for KZ2, i'm highly looking foward to it. it has awesome graphics and i've read a few previews that've complimented the feel of weapons-fire in-game (which was one of my bigger concerns). almost every review i've read about the multi-player (from 1up, ign and gamespot) has been glowing.
I find it funny people still use the 'dull look' and 'lack of colour' card. IT IS MEANT TO BE THAT WAY, IT IS WAR TORN AND MEANT TO BE DARK AND ATMOSPHERIC.
That's why I asked - I don't know the plot behind Killzone.
I was just echoing C&VGs headline anyway. I don't really care how grey it is - MadWorld looks about one of the most interesting games on the horizon, and that's black and white.
I'm sorry but how can people actually believe suivaloom is serious? He's probably an Xbox fan trying to make PS fanboys look stupid.
We can't take him seriously at the best of times, but when he says things like "resistance 2 has a chance of game of the year" you know he must be a nob.
He loves metacritic though, i gave him a link that gamesradar had on their website concerning metacritic ps3 vs 360 comparision review scores. The 360 came out on top in every single game genre.
Game set and match to the 360 then if you go by metacritic's rules(which suivaloom follows).
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
DAEDALUS we just can't get along -
You mysterious 'men' continually chastise Resistance but let me remind you again; Resistance is a better game than Fables. Fables scored lower on Metacritic than the 'universal baiting tool' Resistance.
So no doubt you are gibbering fluids down your f*cking chest over "Fables 2" (suprising as I thought you were the moustache wearing violence-type 20 something male) but the thing that you need to get into your bonce is that Resistance 2 has a better chance of being 'game of the year'. In actual fact that is true.
Comparing Fable and Resistance is like comparing Gran Turismo to Tekken. And if resistance get's game of the year then i'll be your slave for eternity!
I for one am looking forward to this game. It does look like the bees knees. But i'm very hesitant because the first Killzone was at best a very average game. It looks good, sounds even better and if it plays anywhere near as good as it looks then i'll be a happy bunny.
I'm looking forward to this more than resistance 2 anyway.
As we are not allowed to criticise anything regarding Playstation, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BEST GAME EVER.
I find that it is easier to criticise something that I have played. I suggest you follow those words of wisdom. Personally I listen to the words of the few trustworthy journo's that have had hands-on experience, and most, other than the silly Gamesradar story (CVG inspired?), have given the game a thumbs-up. Otherwise, how can anybody take your criticisms seriously?
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
here we go again you are truly the most cynical gamer on the planet...if it doesnt jump out the screen, suck you off, comb your hair, make your tea and do your work for you it is instantly crap..(or is it because it's PS3 exclusive)
Cynical ? I didnt say it wouldnt be good, just that bar the graphics it hasnt really shown me anything to get me excited, i did also mention that i will be buying it, i wouldn't buy a game i think is rubbish would I.
I take it you don't mean Resistance Fall of Man 2? It looks amazingly good graphically. I do agree Resistance wasn't the most polished game but enjoyable all the same. A good launch title.
Yes i was referring to resistance 1, a game that i personally would say is the weakest FPS game ive played this gen, i really didnt like it.
You mysterious 'men' continually chastise Resistance but let me remind you again; Resistance is a better game than Fables. Fables scored lower on Metacritic than the 'universal baiting tool' Resistance.
So no doubt you are gibbering fluids down your f*cking chest over "Fables 2" (suprising as I thought you were the moustache wearing violence-type 20 something male) but the thing that you need to get into your bonce is that Resistance 2 has a better chance of being 'game of the year'. In actual fact that is true. Back to top View user's profile Send private message
I dont know where to begin with this one...
A) I have never played fable and dont intend on buying fable 2 B) I played and didnt like resistance, so what. C) Your a child
Good grief the screenshots really are grey though I know next to nothing about Killzone (1 or 2) - is the setting pretty much the same all the way through, or is there any vegetation etc to brighten things up?
yeah you're right, it looks very grey and dull. Not like Gears of War 2 with it's use of gentle pink, subdued shading and pastel colours.
F*$k me man what a weak excuse for rubbishing a game. What do you want? Viva Pinata shoot'em up? If you want colourful buy Cosmo.
As we are not allowed to criticise anything regarding Playstation, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BEST GAME EVER.
I find that it is easier to criticise something that I have played. I suggest you follow those words of wisdom. Personally I listen to the words of the few trustworthy journo's that have had hands-on experience, and most, other than the silly Gamesradar story (CVG inspired?), have given the game a thumbs-up. Otherwise, how can anybody take your criticisms seriously?
So you only trust the Journos who say the game is the bees knees?
I will wait it till I get a demo, looks nice, yes the colour palette isn't the broadest (not laughing now are we GoW palette bashers) but hey. As long as it's a decent game then I'll be happy.
I find it funny people still use the 'dull look' and 'lack of colour' card. IT IS MEANT TO BE THAT WAY, IT IS WAR TORN AND MEANT TO BE DARK AND ATMOSPHERIC.
That's why I asked - I don't know the plot behind Killzone.
I'm not sure. In the first game there was a Jungle level and a level based up in the mountains, but now that humans are invading the Helghast, I'm not sure how their planet is.
I think this game needs varied places, not necessarily colour.
I still think this game will be excellent. Looking forward to it.
Touchy much? Who said I'm a GoW fan? I asked a simple question, and again the Sony defence force jumps down throats. Should I look out my window to see a Playstation sign illuminating the sky?
Of course, anyone questions your opinion, automatically a fanboy and yet you so complain when someone does it to you.
Touchy much? Who said I'm a GoW fan? I asked a simple question, and again the Sony defence force jumps down throats. Should I look out my window to see a Playstation sign illuminating the sky?
Of course, anyone questions your opinion, automatically a fanboy and yet you so complain when someone does it to you.
You and Suiv really do have so much in common.
Actually what I think is really pathetic is the way the xbots cant stay off the Sony forums. These forums arent a place for debate and discussion. They are a place for the xbots to stomp all over the positive sony stories and ruin things for PS3 owners who want to read good articles regarding their machine.
If you want to see Daedilus (spelt wrong but you know who I mean) making positive comments regarding gaming look at the 360 forums!!!!
In my humble opinion,this game can not afford to be anything less then great,nor it shuld be!It has to much hype and expectations (including my own)to be just another fps!...
seriously though a gritty futuristic version of COD4, sold!
Ugh, not sold to me. I like my action much less scripted, please. Give me varied AI over formulaic set pieces any day. No matter how glamerous some of COD4's set pieces look, its all too easy to see just how they are put together if you stray even a little from the beaten path. KZ2 could well prove the same.
And the art style is so utterly lacking its untrue. Give me something with a little character, please! Don't base the entire imagery about the glowing orange eyes ffs...
Still, its a more positive preview than I'd feared, and I'm actually a little more enthused for it. Probably a rent for me, though.
No one gives a s**t about the single player of FPS games. Its all about the multiplayer these days, and after seeing the new vid on the PS store, im getting very hyped and excited for this game.
seriously though a gritty futuristic version of COD4, sold!
Ugh, not sold to me. I like my action much less scripted, please. Give me varied AI over formulaic set pieces any day. No matter how glamerous some of COD4's set pieces look, its all too easy to see just how they are put together if you stray even a little from the beaten path. KZ2 could well prove the same.
And the art style is so utterly lacking its untrue. Give me something with a little character, please! Don't base the entire imagery about the glowing orange eyes ffs...
Still, its a more positive preview than I'd feared, and I'm actually a little more enthused for it. Probably a rent for me, though.
No one gives a s**t about the single player of FPS games.
I do, i care about single player far more than multiplayer, mp means very little to me in any situation, it means even less on the ps3.
I had high hopes but after watching a few vids this is going to be a Miss.
So PS3's i want:
1. God Of War 3.....and Only God knows when we will eventaully see it...
1. The graphics look like the best we have ever seen on a console, so how you can say they look crap is beyond me.
2. The weapons look and fire great. The cover system looks good and new.
3. The classes in multiplayer look good, and you can mix and match em, and i havent seen that in any other multiplayer game. The snipers can fully cloak, which looks awesome.
I had high hopes but after watching a few vids this is going to be a Miss.
So PS3's i want:
1. God Of War 3.....and Only God knows when we will eventaully see it...
1. The graphics look like the best we have ever seen on a console, so how you can say they look crap is beyond me.
2. The weapons look and fire great. The cover system looks good and new.
3. The classes in multiplayer look good, and you can mix and match em, and i havent seen that in any other multiplayer game. The snipers can fully cloak, which looks awesome.
4. you dont own a PS3
5. You live in your mums basement.
1. Graphics dont look good, i mean GT5 looks alot beter.
2. The weapons fire like little toys, so much recoil, guns do not feel powerful, just watch some Footage.
3. Clasess? Meh, Who cares, if singeplay is rubbish, Gameplay is cr@p, weapons feel Sh!t, hardly anyone has a MIC online, MP isnt going to be much better.
4. Cover system is actually kinda crappy, i mean why in a First Person Shoot? There should be no need.
5. I own 2 Superior American PS3's, One Launch 60GB and one Launch 80GB.
6. Where ever i live is 10x better than where you live. You have no idea about my house, living in my basement with a Home Cinima, Sound System worth Thousands and every Latest home Console is not too shabby.
7. i think you should open your narrow minded mind and see that there are other consoles, there are crap games on every console and that the PS3 so far has F*CK ALL.
I mean watch this sh*t:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37045.html
The machine gun turret has bullets but when you fire they dont move and go into the gun or anything.
Look how weak the Machine Gun turret at the start sounds.
Plus it has Loading Issues and freezes up, there are hardly any enemies on screen at once, Hardly any colour i mean why the F*ck is everything grey??? Couldnt there be any colour besides the odd red and blur here and there????
The guns fire like they are shooting pellets not bullets.
I own 2 Superior American PS3's, One Launch 60GB and one Launch 80GB.
Plus it has Loading Issues and freezes up, there are hardly any enemies on screen at once, Hardly any colour i mean why the F*ck is everything grey??? Couldnt there be any colour besides the odd red and blur here and there????
First comment about your post. Why on earth do you own two PS3's if there's nothing on them?
Secondly, have you actually played the game? How do you know it has loading issues and freezes up? Don't even try replying with "I've seen it in the video".
Seriously, that comment about "where ever I live is 10x better than where you live" makes you sound like a guest on the Jeremy Kyle show. Away and get a grip of yourself! That whole post actually had me cringing with embarrassment for you. Are you Suiv?
"Look how weak the Machine Gun turret at the start sounds" that's actually the most stupid but funny statement I've ever read on this site. That's saying a lot!
I had high hopes but after watching a few vids this is going to be a Miss.
So PS3's i want:
1. God Of War 3.....and Only God knows when we will eventaully see it...
1. The graphics look like the best we have ever seen on a console, so how you can say they look crap is beyond me.
2. The weapons look and fire great. The cover system looks good and new.
3. The classes in multiplayer look good, and you can mix and match em, and i havent seen that in any other multiplayer game. The snipers can fully cloak, which looks awesome.
4. you dont own a PS3
5. You live in your mums basement.
1. Graphics dont look good, i mean GT5 looks alot beter.
2. The weapons fire like little toys, so much recoil, guns do not feel powerful, just watch some Footage.
3. Clasess? Meh, Who cares, if singeplay is rubbish, Gameplay is cr@p, weapons feel Sh!t, hardly anyone has a MIC online, MP isnt going to be much better.
4. Cover system is actually kinda crappy, i mean why in a First Person Shoot? There should be no need.
5. I own 2 Superior American PS3's, One Launch 60GB and one Launch 80GB.
6. Where ever i live is 10x better than where you live. You have no idea about my house, living in my basement with a Home Cinima, Sound System worth Thousands and every Latest home Console is not too shabby.
7. i think you should open your narrow minded mind and see that there are other consoles, there are crap games on every console and that the PS3 so far has F*CK ALL.
I mean watch this sh*t:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37045.html
The machine gun turret has bullets but when you fire they dont move and go into the gun or anything.
Look how weak the Machine Gun turret at the start sounds.
Plus it has Loading Issues and freezes up, there are hardly any enemies on screen at once, Hardly any colour i mean why the F*ck is everything grey??? Couldnt there be any colour besides the odd red and blur here and there????
The guns fire like they are shooting pellets not bullets.
seriously though a gritty futuristic version of COD4, sold!
Ugh, not sold to me. I like my action much less scripted, please. Give me varied AI over formulaic set pieces any day. No matter how glamerous some of COD4's set pieces look, its all too easy to see just how they are put together if you stray even a little from the beaten path. KZ2 could well prove the same.
And the art style is so utterly lacking its untrue. Give me something with a little character, please! Don't base the entire imagery about the glowing orange eyes ffs...
Still, its a more positive preview than I'd feared, and I'm actually a little more enthused for it. Probably a rent for me, though.
No one gives a s**t about the single player of FPS games. Its all about the multiplayer these days, and after seeing the new vid on the PS store, im getting very hyped and excited for this game.
Actually I do as I do not have the time for MP gaming at the moment. I like my FPS, I don't think that I should get any less enjoyment out of it over people playing MP.
I actually really like the visual style of it. It's the second in a series, the first one had a very similar style, it's carrying on the theme, it makes perfect sense. Moaning about it is daft. It's as bad as the people moaning that Halo 3 was too bright and colourful.
I hope to god, for all it's COD4 similarities, it doesn't have clown-car respawning baddies. I HATE that, it's cheap, stupid and COD4's single player campaign was ruined by it on the hard levels.
I'm still not entirely convinced by this though. I loved the graphic design of the first one too but the actual gameplay in that ended up boring the crap out of me.
I really can't get excited by the 4 player co-op thing. From experience it tends to lack challenge. Very rarely are the enemy either boosted in numbers or beefed up in combat, thus making it a very one sided affair. Look at Halo 3, even on the legendary setting 4 players could romp through the levels in no time.
i thought the 1st one was ok (not great but ok) and resistance was pretty solid too(1 of the best launch titles i can remember). abt the colour, what do people expect in a war zone? oh yh neon lights that are somehow intact after bombing raids/artillery strikes, makes total sense and i totally remember every1 bitching abt cod4 being a little grey. abt recoil, im pretty sure guns have recoil when theres explosions going off in your hands, movies and halo has made pepl 4get abt tht mayb. Now it does make sense 2 scrutinize how the game plays but only 2 a certain point as this game is still almost half a year out so the devs r still messing around with it. I also think that devs should never half ass the single player campaign as not every1 is 13 and can dedicate their life to it
I'm not sure who is worst. Suivaloom for loving anything Sony, or you for appearing in all Sony threads talking fud. Mmmm.
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Actually what I think is really pathetic is the way the xbots cant stay off the Sony forums. These forums arent a place for debate and discussion. They are a place for the xbots to stomp all over the positive sony stories and ruin things for PS3 owners who want to read good articles regarding their machine.
I do not frequent the 'Sony Forums', I go to the C&VG news page, and read, and often comment on, the stories there. I couldn't give two sh*ts if it was a PS3, PC or Jihad Online forum. If I want to say something, I will. You are quite within your rights to ignore my posts.
Touchy much? Who said I'm a GoW fan? I asked a simple question, and again the Sony defence force jumps down throats. Should I look out my window to see a Playstation sign illuminating the sky?
Of course, anyone questions your opinion, automatically a fanboy and yet you so complain when someone does it to you.
Did I use the term fanboy? Did I venture any opinion that wasn't in the main story anyway? Face it - you regard any comment that can in ANY way be interpreted as a slight against the PS3 (not that 'those visuals are devoid of much colour' is a slight against the PS3) as some sort of attack. Just chill the f**k out, realise it's just a console and not the end of the world. I wouldn't mind if I'd just hurled abuse at your family, but I echo the sentiments of the headline and apparently I'm once again slagging the PS3 off...
You and Suiv really do have so much in common.
We're both inbred? Both snuck into the gene pool while the life guard wasn't looking? Both lick windows and breathe overly heavily?
I find it funny people still use the 'dull look' and 'lack of colour' card. IT IS MEANT TO BE THAT WAY, IT IS WAR TORN AND MEANT TO BE DARK AND ATMOSPHERIC.
That's why I asked - I don't know the plot behind Killzone.
I'm not sure. In the first game there was a Jungle level and a level based up in the mountains, but now that humans are invading the Helghast, I'm not sure how their planet is.
I think this game needs varied places, not necessarily colour.
I still think this game will be excellent. Looking forward to it.
Wow, a reasonable response - thanks NG_21. How is it you can give a reasonable response and others can't?
Wow, a reasonable response - thanks NG_21. How is it you can give a reasonable response and others can't?
Of course you would agree with that. Anyone that disagrees with you is in your opinion a fanboy. You judge any game on the PS3 harder than you judge a game on the 360. You're with the other fanboys on this forum (microsoft and sony fanboys a like) who's opinion means nothing. That's not your first post that's slated Killzone 2 for it's grey colour. If that's seriously your genuine reason for rubbishing a game you've never played then it says a lot about you.
You're a stereotypical fanboy, just like Suiv. You rule out PS3 games that you will never play just like he rules out any Xbox360 game without ever playing it. At least have the balls to admit that the reason you don't like this game is because it's on the PS3. I can have some respect for that.
Put what ever spin on it you like but thats a fact. Why do you even care about Killzone 2? You don't even own a PS3.
I remember posting about KZ2's first person cover system 1 or 2 months ago in hopes of sparking up some conversation. There is this view method in some newer fps games, can't think of the correct term though. I think it is called First Person Simulation? It is where you can basically look down and see your characters legs, feet, torso, etc. It is featured in games like Chronicles of Riddik and Breakdown. I was thinking that this first person cover system sounds like a great idea. It would allow a cover system without taking the player out of the game... or breaking immersion. Now that they have confirmed the inclusion of that feature and with all of the comparisons to CoD4, this game has went from completely uninteresting to very appealing in an instant. I might have to purchase a PS3 if this and Heavy Rain turn out to be great.
Of course you would agree with that. Anyone that disagrees with you is in your opinion a fanboy.
I beg to differ - as I've stated MANY times before, I absolutely LOATHE that phrase, and never use it.
You judge any game on the PS3 harder than you judge a game on the 360. You're with the other fanboys on this forum (microsoft and sony fanboys a like) who's opinion means nothing.
But your opinion is to be valued, savoured, and perhaps saved to favourites? Got it.
That's not your first post that's slated Killzone 2 for it's grey colour.
Please find me said quote.
If that's seriously your genuine reason for rubbishing a game you've never played then it says a lot about you.
I did not, nor have I ever rubbished Killzone 2. I would never completely write a game off for a lack of colour. As stated elsewhere, MadWorld looks exceptional, and that is Black and White (with a bit of red, admittedly). Graphics and visual effects do not maketh the game. The graphics are a bit drab looking in the colour department, but are otherwise visually very impressive. All I did was echo the sentiment that the article used - 'grey shooter shows off it's colours', made a small quip, and am being ridiculously chastised for it.
You're a stereotypical fanboy, just like Suiv. You rule out PS3 games that you will never play just like he rules out any Xbox360 game without ever playing it.
I have never once done that. If you can provide proof to the contrary then be my guest, and I'll stand corrected.
At least have the balls to admit that the reason you don't like this game is because it's on the PS3. I can have some respect for that.
Only if you have the balls to state that you are a member of the Sony Defence Force - policing this forum, on the lookout for anyone saying anything negative towards the company or the PS3. And once again, I don't dislike this game. FPS isn't my favourite genre, but COD4 showed me that that's irrelevant really.
Put what ever spin on it you like but thats a fact. Why do you even care about Killzone 2? You don't even own a PS3.
Once again, I care about all games, regardless of system. It actually astounds me how so many people DON'T care what's happening on other systems they might not own.
I know some people go on to other forums to wind up owners of 'rival' platforms, but I read all stories that interest me, how else am I supposed to make an informed judgement on buying a PS3 or not?? Then make a comment if I feel like it. I'm sure I've seen plenty of anti 360 posts on forums from 360 stories too. And I don't give a toss about anti 360 stories. I only really play GTA, a bit of Halo online and recently Ninja Gaiden (which is great but the most frustrating game I've ever played in parts!).
The thing is, over the last few months Sony have stopped acting like t**ts and have started to get their act together with the PS3. I have no problem with Sony; it's just the PS3 fans on here are now acting like precious, over sensitive t**ts. God, it's like listening to deluded football fans, and I can understand them to some degree; a football club or town has way more identity than a bloody electronics/software company!
I genuinly like coming on here and listening to people's opinions as they may have mentioned something from a story or vid or pic that I hadn't thought of. Not the same old "it looks grey" arguments and then a dozen sulky PS3 owners go mental.
There are three things putting me off buying a PS3; 1. I have a 360 and Wii and don't really want to spend anymore time gaming than I already do. 2. Money (not that the PS3 is too expensive, I'm waiting for work money to come in and won't be buying any major purchases til the end of the year), and 3. I don't want to turn in to a hyper sensitive, whinging, 'they're picking on me' c**k which seems to happen to people when they get into their PS3.
Re the game. It looks grey, WOW!. Most urban areas are grey, what do you expect? Nobody knows what it's going to play like, so just be positive, wait for reviews and a demo. Most FPS's are pretty much standard fair now, so of course there are going to be big similarities.
_Marty_, you are the voice of reason on a thread which has, as per usual, gone way OTT. As far as I can see you have not slagged off the game you've just concurred with the fact it does look grey, which is undeniable!
I beg to differ - as I've stated MANY times before, I absolutely LOATHE that phrase, and never use it.
Take a look at your sig. That wouldn't be a phrase that you absolutely LOATHE and never use on it?
I honestly don't care what you say or think. I don't rate your opinion just as I don't rate Suiv's. Only stop playing the victim when you're just guilty as he is.
_Marty_, you are the voice of reason on a thread which has, as per usual, gone way OTT. As far as I can see you have not slagged off the game you've just concurred with the fact it does look grey, which is undeniable!
_Marty_ belongs to an elite group consisting of myself, voad, yourself, Marty, usually cdaveuk and a few others. The group consists solely of people who can have rational discussions about a game or system based on its merits and failures, as we see them, and are not blindly loyal to a console. Criticising a game is not a de-facto insult towards the system hosting it. The problem so many people have on these forums is that they believe otherwise.
Re the game. It looks grey, WOW!. Most urban areas are grey, what do you expect? Nobody knows what it's going to play like, so just be positive, wait for reviews and a demo. Most FPS's are pretty much standard fair now, so of course there are going to be big similarities.
Tell me then, is the game looking grey a valid reason for rubbishing it? Would you consider someone a fanboy if they did? If I was to say "Gears of War 2 is rubbish because it lacks colour" what would you think?
_Marty_ belongs to an elite group consisting of myself, voad, yourself, Marty, usually cdaveuk and a few others. The group consists solely of people who can have rational discussions about a game or system based on its merits and failures, as we see them, and are not blindly loyal to a console. Criticising a game is not a de-facto insult towards the system hosting it. The problem so many people have on these forums is that they believe otherwise.
lol that actually made me laugh, an elite group like the A - team or something?
_Marty_ belongs to an elite group consisting of myself, voad, yourself, Marty, usually cdaveuk and a few others. The group consists solely of people who can have rational discussions about a game or system based on its merits and failures, as we see them, and are not blindly loyal to a console. Criticising a game is not a de-facto insult towards the system hosting it. The problem so many people have on these forums is that they believe otherwise.
lol that actually made me laugh, an elite group like the A - team or something?
Yeah. I'm Mister T! Back on-topic, a limited palette is a valid criticism, but doesn't make a game automatically rubbish. And on the subject of Gears, I don't personally like it. Bought it when it came out, and couldn't understand what the fuss was about. I found it repetitive, shallow, the character and environment design was generic, and yes, I didn't like the aforementioned limited palette. But that is simply my opinion. Doesn't make the game rubbish, just not to my taste....
*hears something* *looks over*
Crikey. Suivaloom just died of shock - a so-called xbot making a criticism of an xbox game!
Yeah. I'm Mister T! Back on-topic, a limited palette is a valid criticism, but doesn't make a game automatically rubbish. And on the subject of Gears, I don't personally like it. Bought it when it came out, and couldn't understand what the fuss was about. I found it repetitive, shallow, the character and environment design was generic, and yes, I didn't like the aforementioned limited palette. But that is simply my opinion. Doesn't make the game rubbish, just not to my taste....
*hears something* *looks over*
Crikey. Suivaloom just died of shock - a so-called xbot making a criticism of an xbox game!
At least you played the game before making up your mind which is my point entirely. I don't mind someone saying they didn't like a game if they've at least played it but to rubbish it before it's even released is another matter.
Re the game. It looks grey, WOW!. Most urban areas are grey, what do you expect? Nobody knows what it's going to play like, so just be positive, wait for reviews and a demo. Most FPS's are pretty much standard fair now, so of course there are going to be big similarities.
Tell me then, is the game looking grey a valid reason for rubbishing it? Would you consider someone a fanboy if they did? If I was to say "Gears of War 2 is rubbish because it lacks colour" what would you think?
I would say it's your opinion and not jump on someone for expressing a valid opinion about a game on a console I own. As morgadp stated, I think it's a valid criticism but a small one. If is was low res with pop up etc, that would be a much bigger issue.
And it would not put me off the game if it's good - it's gets a 1/10 knocked off the graphics for being slightly dull, as GoW may have done (I don't know or care), big f**king deal. And I didn't think GoW was all that when I played it, (for God's sake I even chose Rainbow Six 2 in the bundle above it, which was in hindsight a mistake) it was fun but as with many big releases the reviews go over the top.
But hey, I own a wii! Obviously graphics aren't everything to me! And I tell you what, although there have been few games to shout about on the wii lately and I've barely played it the last three months, the games I have/had on it s**t on the 360 and the PS3 for sheer fun. In my opinion. And KillZone would look weird if it was coloured like Galaxy!
And I am Stephen J Cannell. I have a big mess of paper behind my chair, having thrown sheet after sheet of A4 onto a pile trying to make it flick up in a 'C' shape.
I would say it's your opinion and not jump on someone for expressing a valid opinion about a game on a console I own.
Eh?
If you honestly think someone can form a valid opinion from a 30 second clip of an in game video then good luck to you. I bet if I stated that Gears or War 2 looks grey and boring there would be a long list of fanboys ready to point that out in a less mannerly fashion.
I do, i care about single player far more than multiplayer, mp means very little to me in any situation, it means even less on the ps3.
I'm actually starting to think Suiv wasn't far wrong about you.
Eh, care to explain ?
I think vodoo maybe referring to this.
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
DAEDALUS we just can't get along -
You mysterious 'men' continually chastise Resistance but let me remind you again; Resistance is a better game than Fables. Fables scored lower on Metacritic than the 'universal baiting tool' Resistance.
So no doubt you are gibbering fluids down your f*cking chest over "Fables 2" (suprising as I thought you were the moustache wearing violence-type 20 something male) but the thing that you need to get into your bonce is that Resistance 2 has a better chance of being 'game of the year'. In actual fact that is true.
Although GOTY will hopefully be be Fallout 3 or Far Cry 2 and for me MP is not important at the moment on any system.
I beg to differ - as I've stated MANY times before, I absolutely LOATHE that phrase, and never use it.
Take a look at your sig. That wouldn't be a phrase that you absolutely LOATHE and never use on it
It's a quote from a fellow forum member, not my own words. I asked him if he wanted me to add his name to it, he said he didn't mind, I tried anyway, and didn't have enough space to add it anyway, so left it. Is that ok for you?
I would say it's your opinion and not jump on someone for expressing a valid opinion about a game on a console I own.
Eh?
If you honestly think someone can form a valid opinion from a 30 second clip of an in game video then good luck to you. I bet if I stated that Gears or War 2 looks grey and boring there would be a long list of fanboys ready to point that out in a less mannerly fashion.
It's not hard to understand. I am currently f**king hammered and it's still crystal clear. Clearer than this blurry screen anyway.
Any sensible person creates an opinion based on the information they have available. It's up to them whether they post it on a forum. As they receive more information, that opinion may change.
This all comes down to what you consider an opinion. Pretty much every thought we have is an opinion. We decide to share that opinion or we keep it to oursleves; when it's on something as trivial as computer games it really doesn't matter. I don't give two s**ts what an xbox fanboy would say if you said that, they would be as bad as a PS3 fanboy.
You are an argumentative c**k and are looking for a response. Which as perfectly logical and valid as that response might be, you will still look to argue a redundant point (in that an opinion on something is personal to each individual, free speech etc). As long as they put their opinion across in a elequent, reasoned way then who gives a s**t? If someone says they don't want a wii because they want better graphics, fine by me. If someone doesn't want a 360 because they are worried it will break, that's fine too.
_Marty_ stated that the graphics were grey, not even they were bad. They f**kig are grey. But it doesn't effect the game play and I don't think he stated that it did, or that it was a s**t game in any of his posts. If he said this game is s**t then I would understand you going on like this.
You are overeacting to my post which didn't even say the game/graphics are bad. God help you if a fanboy went all out slagging it off. It just backs up my opinion that a lot of PS3 fans on this site are hyper sensitive to any criticism of a PS3 game. And I didn't even criticise it! There are plenty of OTT anti PS3 comments on here, go hassle them you dick.
You are overeacting to my post which didn't even say the game/graphics are bad. God help you if a fanboy went all out slagging it off. It just backs up my opinion that a lot of PS3 fans on this site are hyper sensitive to any criticism of a PS3 game. And I didn't even criticise it! There are plenty of OTT anti PS3 comments on here, go hassle them you dick.
Tell you what, take a read over this post and see how many times you called me some kind of petty name. Then take a look over the rest of your posts and see how many times you called someone a petty name. Then read the line where you claim that "a lot of PS3 fans on this site are hyper sensitive to any criticism". Seem fair to you?
You are entirely missing the point! Of course anyone can have an opinion on a game that's fair but is it fair to totally rubbish a game before it's released. Haze was rubbish but I waited until playing the demo and reading the reviews before deciding that. Too Human was rubbish but again I waited until I played the demo and read the reviews before deciding. Sure the game might not appeal to you but any true gamer will not immediately rubbish it from a 30 second video clip. I ask the question again if Killzone 2 is rubbish because its grey then does that rule apply to Gears of War 2? There's a lot of people posting opinions on this game that don't even own a PS3. Why do you care what a game that you will never play looks like? Do all single console owners make their opinions as well known about Wii games? In the end of the day it's a fact that a lot of the negative posts on this story were because some people do not like the PS3. The same thing happens on threads about Xbox games as I'm sure you will readily agree. People don't like the PS3/Xbox360 thats up to them but don't hide behind some pathetic excuse when you're questioned about it.
You are overeacting to my post which didn't even say the game/graphics are bad. God help you if a fanboy went all out slagging it off. It just backs up my opinion that a lot of PS3 fans on this site are hyper sensitive to any criticism of a PS3 game. And I didn't even criticise it! There are plenty of OTT anti PS3 comments on here, go hassle them you dick.
Tell you what, take a read over this post and see how many times you called me some kind of petty name. Then take a look over the rest of your posts and see how many times you called someone a petty name. Then read the line where you claim that "a lot of PS3 fans on this site are hyper sensitive to any criticism". Seem fair to you?
You are entirely missing the point! ... I ask the question again if Killzone 2 is rubbish because its grey then does that rule apply to Gears of War 2?
In fairness dude, it does seem like it is you that have missed the point. He just clearly stated, as did I, that this whole thing started because _Marty_ mentioned that the graphics were grey. He never once said the game was s**t because of it - he merely asked a perfectly valid question, which was if anyone knew what the variety of environments would be like. As soon as he posted that, an army of people were ready and willing to jump down his throat as if he had just ruined the second coming. As we have already established, a limited colour palette is a perfectly valid criticism. It is one that be levelled against Gears, UT, and countless other generic shooters these days. Hell, Quake had the most boring colour palette around back in the day, but no-one would suggest it was sh*t. So, yes, Killzone 2 looks very grey indeed (as mentioned in the article itself, which originated from a PS3 mag in the first place). That is a fact. Does it mean that the game itself is sh*t? No it doesn't, and if you read back on the posts, no-one has actually said that.
In fairness dude, it does seem like it is you that have missed the point. He just clearly stated, as did I, that this whole thing started because _Marty_ mentioned that the graphics were grey. He never once said the game was s**t because of it - he merely asked a perfectly valid question, which was if anyone knew what the variety of environments would be like. As soon as he posted that, an army of people were ready and willing to jump down his throat as if he had just ruined the second coming. As we have already established, a limited colour palette is a perfectly valid criticism. It is one that be levelled against Gears, UT, and countless other generic shooters these days. Hell, Quake had the most boring colour palette around back in the day, but no-one would suggest it was sh*t.
You must be reading a different thread to me because if I read back through it there's more than one post slatting it because it's grey
As we are not allowed to criticise anything regarding Playstation, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BEST GAME EVER.
I find that it is easier to criticise something that I have played. I suggest you follow those words of wisdom. Personally I listen to the words of the few trustworthy journo's that have had hands-on experience, and most, other than the silly Gamesradar story (CVG inspired?), have given the game a thumbs-up. Otherwise, how can anybody take your criticisms seriously?
In 25 years of gaming I’ve never bought a game without seeing a review.
Of course no one is going to take our criticism seriously, we are just making are opinions until the reviews appear, unfortunately some people here start twitching as soon as there is a negative towards there favourite brand.
You are overeacting to my post which didn't even say the game/graphics are bad. God help you if a fanboy went all out slagging it off. It just backs up my opinion that a lot of PS3 fans on this site are hyper sensitive to any criticism of a PS3 game. And I didn't even criticise it! There are plenty of OTT anti PS3 comments on here, go hassle them you dick.
Tell you what, take a read over this post and see how many times you called me some kind of petty name. Then take a look over the rest of your posts and see how many times you called someone a petty name. Then read the line where you claim that "a lot of PS3 fans on this site are hyper sensitive to any criticism". Seem fair to you?
You are entirely missing the point! Of course anyone can have an opinion on a game that's fair but is it fair to totally rubbish a game before it's released. Haze was rubbish but I waited until playing the demo and reading the reviews before deciding that. Too Human was rubbish but again I waited until I played the demo and read the reviews before deciding. Sure the game might not appeal to you but any true gamer will not immediately rubbish it from a 30 second video clip. I ask the question again if Killzone 2 is rubbish because its grey then does that rule apply to Gears of War 2? There's a lot of people posting opinions on this game that don't even own a PS3. Why do you care what a game that you will never play looks like? Do all single console owners make their opinions as well known about Wii games? In the end of the day it's a fact that a lot of the negative posts on this story were because some people do not like the PS3. The same thing happens on threads about Xbox games as I'm sure you will readily agree. People don't like the PS3/Xbox360 thats up to them but don't hide behind some pathetic excuse when you're questioned about it.
I apologise for any name calling and I called people who get hyper defensive about the PS3 'c**ks' in my first post (I would say the same about xbox fans who did the same, yet they don't seem to, at least to this degree). Again, I apologise. But you seem to pick arguments where there are none and it annoys me. A calm, reasoned debate seems completely impossible.
As I said, I don't think KZ2 is rubbish or looks bad, I think it looks grey. That argument, for me, would apply to any game that looks a bit grey. That includes GoW2.
For my thoughts see morgadp's response, which is what I was saying, though with slightly more beery, colourful language.
I'm reading through the posts on another tab, which out of 86 comments the following are negative to varying degrees (I'm not going through the whole quote thing!):
Berelin said it looks formuliac and scripted and has no art direction. I don't know which side of the fence he is on, but he has a PSN tag on his signature.
Then marty made what shall from now on be known as 'the grey post'. Voodoo then jumped down his throat and even after that he didn't slag it off.
Daedalus said he doesn't have high hopes for it. Which granted may be rather premature! Then he does say he is looking forward to playing it, so not sure what he means by that. Fair enough you could say that is slightly antagonising.
Shiwayb said, in totally no inflammatory language, that is wasn't for him. Is that a little premature? Yes and I'm not sure how the gameplay can look dull from a short video. Still he got jumped on for that comment and his subsequent posts turned more aggressive and he was being a wind up, I'll give you that.
Miss Marvelous said she wasn't impressed and that the original was below average at best. Again, hardly inflammatory.
matt*u stated he's not excited by 4 player co-ops in any games. Including Halo. It makes the game too easy.
Little moth made a sarccy comment about it being greyer than GoW2. Fair enough, that's slating it for being grey.
As far as I can see, apart from Daedalus, possibly shiwayb and one comment by little moth, they are hardly fanboy or anti PS3 posts. Maybe six in total and most are made by one person, which for these forums is a tiny percentage!
It it just my browser or is anyone else getting annoyed by the Vin Diesel ad to the right of this box that keeps popping up as soon as I move my mouse over it?!?!
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
Wow you such Xbox 360 fanboy get a life. Killzone 2 will put Gears of War 1 and 2 combine graphics to shame. Resistance: Fall of Man another great FPS was and still is one of the best FPS shooter ever made, two will obliterate any other FPS except Killzone 2. Why do you even bother posting your ridiculous fanboy You always claiming that something is wrong with any PS3 game. Gears of War had basically no story weak multi player just 8 players not enough modes or maps lagers and cheaters. And i bet you will say Gears of War is perfect. Killzone 2 will follow the success of Grand Theft Auto IV and Metal gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.
Im not holding high hopes for this because bar the graphics it hasnt shown me anything spectacular, that said i am looking forward to playing it, it would have to try very hard to be worse than resistance in my book.
Wow you such Xbox 360 fanboy get a life. Killzone 2 will put Gears of War 1 and 2 combine graphics to shame. Resistance: Fall of Man another great FPS was and still is one of the best FPS shooter ever made, two will obliterate any other FPS except Killzone 2. Why do you even bother posting your ridiculous fanboy You always claiming that something is wrong with any PS3 game. Gears of War had basically no story weak multi player just 8 players not enough modes or maps lagers and cheaters. And i bet you will say Gears of War is perfect. Killzone 2 will follow the success of Grand Theft Auto IV and Metal gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.
Shiwayb said, in totally no inflammatory language, that is wasn't for him. Is that a little premature? Yes and I'm not sure how the gameplay can look dull from a short video. Still he got jumped on for that comment and his subsequent posts turned more aggressive and he was being a wind up, I'll give you that.
the fact you could even attempt to defend those posts from Shiwayb proves my point.
It's a quote from a fellow forum member, not my own words. I asked him if he wanted me to add his name to it, he said he didn't mind, I tried anyway, and didn't have enough space to add it anyway, so left it. Is that ok for you?
right so you LOATH the word fanboy but are happy to have it on every post you write because it's someone elses words. ffs
I would say it's your opinion and not jump on someone for expressing a valid opinion about a game on a console I own.
Eh?
If you honestly think someone can form a valid opinion from a 30 second clip of an in game video then good luck to you. I bet if I stated that Gears or War 2 looks grey and boring there would be a long list of fanboys ready to point that out in a less mannerly fashion.
It's not hard to understand. I am currently f**king hammered and it's still crystal clear. Clearer than this blurry screen anyway.
Any sensible person creates an opinion based on the information they have available. It's up to them whether they post it on a forum. As they receive more information, that opinion may change.
This all comes down to what you consider an opinion. Pretty much every thought we have is an opinion. We decide to share that opinion or we keep it to oursleves; when it's on something as trivial as computer games it really doesn't matter. I don't give two s**ts what an xbox fanboy would say if you said that, they would be as bad as a PS3 fanboy.
You are an argumentative c**k and are looking for a response. Which as perfectly logical and valid as that response might be, you will still look to argue a redundant point (in that an opinion on something is personal to each individual, free speech etc). As long as they put their opinion across in a elequent, reasoned way then who gives a s**t? If someone says they don't want a wii because they want better graphics, fine by me. If someone doesn't want a 360 because they are worried it will break, that's fine too.
_Marty_ stated that the graphics were grey, not even they were bad. They f**kig are grey. But it doesn't effect the game play and I don't think he stated that it did, or that it was a s**t game in any of his posts. If he said this game is s**t then I would understand you going on like this.
You are overeacting to my post which didn't even say the game/graphics are bad. God help you if a fanboy went all out slagging it off. It just backs up my opinion that a lot of PS3 fans on this site are hyper sensitive to any criticism of a PS3 game. And I didn't even criticise it! There are plenty of OTT anti PS3 comments on here, go hassle them you dick.
I think the colours are something of an issue for this game. I believe that what currently has been show displays a lack of imagination. I appreciate design and art in games therefore it holds some degree of concern for me. It does not render it a bad game. None of us can say that yet. We can only speculate on the aspects of games that appeal to us. Of course these criticisms can be leveled at many other titles too.
Sadly I feel thus far, what has been displayed of this title fails to excite me; Scripted sequences, lack of variety in enemy types and few original ideas. It looks pretty good and I am sure what is there will be solid. But it does not seem worthy of the excitement or debate that has been generated.
Maybe when more levels and details surface I can re-evaluate my opinion, and will.
I don't mind grey too much, but if all you get is grey then maybe it would be a bigger issue. I liked Resistance a lot, I can't see why people have a problem with it. Haze was rubbish.
It's a quote from a fellow forum member, not my own words. I asked him if he wanted me to add his name to it, he said he didn't mind, I tried anyway, and didn't have enough space to add it anyway, so left it. Is that ok for you?
right so you LOATH the word fanboy but are happy to have it on every post you write because it's someone elses words. ffs
Yup, that's right. Because no other word can appropriately describe Suivaloom and get through the filters. Got a problem with it? Deal with it. And stop being so bloody argumentative. JeeeeSUS, you'd test the patience of a saint.
Yup, that's right. Because no other word can appropriately describe Suivaloom and get through the filters. Got a problem with it? Deal with it. And stop being so bloody argumentative. JeeeeSUS, you'd test the patience of a saint.
the same words describe you... now away and deal with that.
I find it quite amusing that people have jumped on a fairly positive comment made by Daedalus and turned it into a fanboy war, yet again...
Yes, the comment was a positive one, because he said he was looking forward to playing it. All you Sony nerds came and jumped on him for a comment made about it not showing anything new and totally missed his entire point.
I find it quite amusing that people have jumped on a fairly positive comment made by Daedalus and turned it into a fanboy war, yet again...
Yes, the comment was a positive one, because he said he was looking forward to playing it. All you Sony nerds came and jumped on him for a comment made about it not showing anything new and totally missed his entire point.
If you read the thread correctly you will see it's a post from _Marty_ that started it... maybe you should have gone to Specsavers. Good to see another hammer blow to that old claim it's only Sony fanboys that call people petty names. The Xbots are more than able to do it as well.
Don't say that man! You won't be able to join the 'elite' club and you will be classed as Sony fanboy.
well i am, and proud of it! ( i frequent ps3fanboy and the sixthaxis) nowt wrong with that, as ive said plenty of times before i don't lurk/troll 360 news sights in order to bait....whats the point?? no interest, and in the words of bobby brown...that's my perogative i like the cut of your jib though voodoo, so feel free to add me on the PSN... seedaripper1973
(yes the year date is indicative of my age- you'd think i'd know better)
Yup, that's right. Because no other word can appropriately describe Suivaloom and get through the filters. Got a problem with it? Deal with it. And stop being so bloody argumentative. JeeeeSUS, you'd test the patience of a saint.
the same words describe you... now away and deal with that.
/facepalm I sincerely have no idea what your issue or problem is any more. Time and again I have stated that I did not rubbish the game, you have completely ignored that comment, and instead are determined to make false accusations and be as argumentative as you can be.
It's like Big Brother 9 (and 8,7,6,5,4,etc) in here - full of assholes and not worth any of my time.
I find it quite amusing that people have jumped on a fairly positive comment made by Daedalus and turned it into a fanboy war, yet again...
Yes, the comment was a positive one, because he said he was looking forward to playing it. All you Sony nerds came and jumped on him for a comment made about it not showing anything new and totally missed his entire point.
If you read the thread correctly you will see it's a post from _Marty_ that started it... maybe you should have gone to Specsavers. Good to see another hammer blow to that old claim it's only Sony fanboys that call people petty names. The Xbots are more than able to do it as well.
No, even Marty made a good and decent comment about the game, his only downfall was his comment about Suivaloom, which in all honesty, is not too far from the truth.
You have just jumped on him because he upset one of your allies, plain and simple.
A lot of people took Daedy's comment way out of context, something that happens all too often in the PS news topics.
Thing is, until the PS fans become a bit more relaxed and not get upset by some occasional flippant comments, the news section for the PS3 is always going to end up this way.
Another thing is, the PS fans say that they don't go into the 360 news threads to post comments that are intended to rile up the 360 fans. That, in all honesty, is complete b******s, as has been proven by a few of the PS fans. Just take a look at the Castle Crashers news thread, you'll see what I'm on about.
No, even Marty made a good and decent comment about the game, his only downfall was his comment about Suivaloom, which in all honesty, is not too far from the truth.
You have just jumped on him because he upset one of your allies, plain and simple.
A lot of people took Daedy's comment way out of context, something that happens all too often in the PS news topics.
Thing is, until the PS fans become a bit more relaxed and not get upset by some occasional flippant comments, the news section for the PS3 is always going to end up this way.
Another thing is, the PS fans say that they don't go into the 360 news threads to post comments that are intended to rile up the 360 fans. That, in all honesty, is complete b******s, as has been proven by a few of the PS fans. Just take a look at the Castle Crashers news thread, you'll see what I'm on about.
You know what man, that post is so pathetic it's not worth putting the effort into a decent reply. Rubbish like that is fine from someone like _Marty_ but you should truely be ashamed.
I find it quite amusing that people have jumped on a fairly positive comment made by Daedalus and turned it into a fanboy war, yet again...
Yes, the comment was a positive one, because he said he was looking forward to playing it. All you Sony nerds came and jumped on him for a comment made about it not showing anything new and totally missed his entire point.
If you read the thread correctly you will see it's a post from _Marty_ that started it... maybe you should have gone to Specsavers. Good to see another hammer blow to that old claim it's only Sony fanboys that call people petty names. The Xbots are more than able to do it as well.
No, even Marty made a good and decent comment about the game, his only downfall was his comment about Suivaloom, which in all honesty, is not too far from the truth.
You have just jumped on him because he upset one of your allies, plain and simple.
A lot of people took Daedy's comment way out of context, something that happens all too often in the PS news topics.
Thing is, until the PS fans become a bit more relaxed and not get upset by some occasional flippant comments, the news section for the PS3 is always going to end up this way.
Another thing is, the PS fans say that they don't go into the 360 news threads to post comments that are intended to rile up the 360 fans. That, in all honesty, is complete b******s, as has been proven by a few of the PS fans. Just take a look at the Castle Crashers news thread, you'll see what I'm on about.
No, even Marty made a good and decent comment about the game, his only downfall was his comment about Suivaloom, which in all honesty, is not too far from the truth.
You have just jumped on him because he upset one of your allies, plain and simple.
A lot of people took Daedy's comment way out of context, something that happens all too often in the PS news topics.
Thing is, until the PS fans become a bit more relaxed and not get upset by some occasional flippant comments, the news section for the PS3 is always going to end up this way.
Another thing is, the PS fans say that they don't go into the 360 news threads to post comments that are intended to rile up the 360 fans. That, in all honesty, is complete b******s, as has been proven by a few of the PS fans. Just take a look at the Castle Crashers news thread, you'll see what I'm on about.
You know what man, that post is so pathetic it's not worth putting the effort into a decent reply. Rubbish like that is fine from someone like _Marty_ but you should truely be ashamed.
There are a few people on this thread that should be ashamed, and if need be, I'll stand up and be counted. However, if I were you, I'd take a long look in the mirror first, bucko.
Doesn't matter what colour it is surely? When I first got Sonic 2 on megadrive, I had a black and white telly in my room! Still loved every f**king second of it tho!!
As we are not allowed to criticise anything regarding Playstation, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BEST GAME EVER.
I find that it is easier to criticise something that I have played. I suggest you follow those words of wisdom. Personally I listen to the words of the few trustworthy journo's that have had hands-on experience, and most, other than the silly Gamesradar story (CVG inspired?), have given the game a thumbs-up. Otherwise, how can anybody take your criticisms seriously?
Why is the opinion of gamesradar silly i read it and i think they make some valid points, so if they've played it and you haven't how can their opinion be "silly". You should respect their opinion to dislike something
Every single moderator here is a Xbox 360 only fanboy you can tell by the way they talk about how perfect the Xbox 360 is and i have 1 and is far from perfect. Killzone 2 will be awesome you think Sony waste of those millions and all that tremendous time doing nothing hell no. Sony has almost 250 on this game only...
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I know next to nothing about Killzone (1 or 2) - is the setting pretty much the same all the way through, or is there any vegetation etc to brighten things up?
