Epic designer Cliff Bleszinski has flat-out confirmed that you won't be seeing Gears of War 2 released on PC "this time around". It's all about the 360 version...
All that extra content Epic poured into the post-360 release on PC seems to have been for nothing. Epic's lead designer Cliff Bleszinski says the developer isn't going to be doing a PC version of Gears of War 2.
"Gears of War is a great franchise first and foremost for Xbox 360, and therefore we're focusing on that platform for Gears of War 2," Bleszinski told IGN when asked about achievements and if they'll transfer from the original to the sequel. "We've decided we're not going to do a PC version this time around."
If nothing else, that might mean the final part of the story gets released sooner rather than later. If there is a third-part. We can't remember what the latest trilogy chatter is. There'll be more though, you can bank on that. Epic will be.
Are you a PC gamer who is now officially a bit gutted? Or do you aggree with the Cliffster? Has he got a point? Let us know below.
Thats one less, "but it will appear on the PC as well" angle for Suiv to use. Dont know how well it sold for PC? I do know it sold lots and lots for 360 and will do so again, roll on November.
oh no we gona miss out on blow the Emergence hole round 2. all the 360 chatter of amazeing game turned out to be dull repetitive game play with a story for 10 year olds. im so happy that s**t will never be on the pc i hope thay keep there word.
I was looking forward to replaying it after a year or so to get all the achievements again, Better Graphics, Higher res, Better AA, Better FPS and beat the PC noobs.
But since Seriously 2.0 is going to take so much time i dont think there is any point for PC version.
Well after losing my Save games TWICE trying to play through gears i neatly packed the game away and uninstalled it vowing to never put myself though that again.
It makes a lot of sense, considering that Gears is a game primarily aimed at teens and I can only imagine that PC gamers are a little more strategical in their love for shooters. Personally, I like my shooters a bit more thoughtful, rather than badass. I'm too old for badass. And like others have said, the 360 needs to be able to call at least one big game an exclusive.
They'll just be saying this so that PC owners who own a 360 too will fork out for more and buy it on the console. I bet they make more out of it on the 360 than the PC.
Whats the bets a few months after the 360 release they will report that they've changed they're minds.
I waited for months for the PC version to come out, then after losing my saves 3 times and constant crashes I decide to uninstall, and found that even that was broken.
No Gear of War 2 for PC? Good. Leave the PC for people who can program for it.
Like others have said, the PC doesn't need half bottomd console ports. The PC version of the first was a complete joke, more crashes than a stock car race..
I waited ages for the PC version to come out only to find that it doesn't really work on the PC. It's an Xbox game fo sho - to simplistic and ugly for us PC gamers. I still play it occasionally at mates' houses on their 360s, but it's too unwieldy to make a good PC game.
EPIC should be focusing their PC efforts on getting UT3s problems fixed.
Meh, gotta love the snobbish PC gamers who turn their noses up at decent games in favour of another RTS or MMO ;-p
Don't get me wrong, Im as much a PC gamer as I am a console player, but writing off Gears is, really, just cutting off your nose to spite your face. It IS a good game. Simple as that. Whether you like it or not is, of course, a subjective matter, but for me it was one of the highlights of '06 and I'm still playing it and enjoying it today. I can't say the same for any PC titles I've played for a good long time (except MMO's, but then, those are kinda different).
I never played the PC port of Gears (since I only just got a PC thats up to running it) but I never really thought it would translate well, its built squarely with the control pad in mind, and I always had doubts over how well it would work for PC. Oh well. Guess that won't be a concern this time around, but to my mind, ports (at least, so long as they're decently done) and multiplatform releases are generally a Good Thing.
Meh, gotta love the snobbish PC gamers who turn their noses up at decent games in favour of another RTS or MMO ;-p
Don't get me wrong, Im as much a PC gamer as I am a console player, but writing off Gears is, really, just cutting off your nose to spite your face. It IS a good game. Simple as that. Whether you like it or not is, of course, a subjective matter, but for me it was one of the highlights of '06 and I'm still playing it and enjoying it today. I can't say the same for any PC titles I've played for a good long time (except MMO's, but then, those are kinda different).
I never played the PC port of Gears (since I only just got a PC thats up to running it) but I never really thought it would translate well, its built squarely with the control pad in mind, and I always had doubts over how well it would work for PC. Oh well. Guess that won't be a concern this time around, but to my mind, ports (at least, so long as they're decently done) and multiplatform releases are generally a Good Thing.
I am a PC gamer and I have Gears on the PC, I thought it was a great game except for some annoying niggles, and the fact it used Games For Windows Live. GFWL is bloody awful and has caused me (and many others) to lose their saves. The fact is, it didnt sell as well on the PC as it could have, due to various reasons, mostly Epics problems (such as high requirements to run the game and taking a year to bring it out) and others are the users who copy the game and complaing that their computer cant run it at max so they wont buy it.
Personally I think Cliff B is a crybaby, it seems they have left the PC now (where they stated) and have gone to console.
So many people say the PC is dead without any real proof, that is not the reason Gears 2 isnt coming to PC
As for this talk of shoddy porting and crashes.. I had none of this. At all. And I've played it through twice and replayed various chapters countless times.
Meh, gotta love the snobbish PC gamers who turn their noses up at decent games in favour of another RTS or MMO ;-p
nowt wrong with that
for me it was one of the highlights of '06 and I'm still playing it and enjoying it today. I can't say the same for any PC titles I've played for a good long time (except MMO's, but then, those are kinda different).
are you serious? while not PC exclusives, CoD, Bioshock, Grid, Hl2: Ep2, Portal, TF, are all fantastic games on the PC as are Stalker and BF2, and Crysis is decent enough
I never played the PC port of Gears (since I only just got a PC thats up to running it) but I never really thought it would translate well, its built squarely with the control pad in mind
Do what everyone else does and use a 360 pad on the PC
On topic, Cliffy B is a tosser, absolutely everything he says about the PC is always wrong and is overruled by one of the other epic heads, he;s had to eat his words on several occasions.
Besides its a load of crap, theyll milk as much $$$ as they can out of the franchise.
Gears of War 1 looked fantastic on the PC, but i really cant understand all the hype, i found the gameplay extremely tedious
I think ive sussed it out now. I think PC Gamers are probably the biggest Fanboys we have. Of course consoles will always have their Fanboy base, their targeted market assures us of that but PC Gamers, come on guys, you are old enough and wise enough to know better, yet its the same folks that will diss all things console and think that the by pressing W and D on the keyboard and then clicking their mouse button they are somehow better than console Gamers.
I was one of the few for which Gears PC worked near flawlessly, and i have to say it didnt feel like a console game in the slightest (apart from that GFWL s**te).
Again, im one of the few who thought GoW PC was bloody great, but with the hate against it thanks to the bugs many people had and the likely low profit margin they had, im not surprised to see a statement like this come out.
I will be surprised if its actually true though. Didnt they say the exact same thing about Gears 1? Not to mention if Microsoft want Gears 2 PC, im sure they will get it.
Do what everyone else does and use a 360 pad on the PC
No, just no. The mouse/kb controls for GoW PC were translated more then well, actually id say it felt natural and near damn perfect on mouse/kb.
Well you must have all got the s**ty end of the stick as Gears ran perfectly on my PC. I am slightly p**sed off as i would have played it co-op with a friend at one of our LAN fests. What annoys me more is Epic ditching the PC. Epic were made on PC but now see the console market as the "easy money for pleasing fanboys" market. The have just lost a lot of respect, an important thing in my book.
Meh, gotta love the snobbish PC gamers who turn their noses up at decent games in favour of another RTS or MMO ;-p
Don't get me wrong, Im as much a PC gamer as I am a console player, but writing off Gears is, really, just cutting off your nose to spite your face. It IS a good game. Simple as that. Whether you like it or not is, of course, a subjective matter, but for me it was one of the highlights of '06 and I'm still playing it and enjoying it today. I can't say the same for any PC titles I've played for a good long time (except MMO's, but then, those are kinda different).
I never played the PC port of Gears (since I only just got a PC thats up to running it) but I never really thought it would translate well, its built squarely with the control pad in mind, and I always had doubts over how well it would work for PC. Oh well. Guess that won't be a concern this time around, but to my mind, ports (at least, so long as they're decently done) and multiplatform releases are generally a Good Thing.
Very well said, the problem is pc gaming is generally an expensive pain. It will always serve a purpose as a leading edge platform because of its constantly changing and cutting edge specs, but console gaming is evolving for the better and i'm not sure we can say the same about the pc. Whether you like GOW or not, this isn't good news for pc owners.
Meh, gotta love the snobbish PC gamers who turn their noses up at decent games in favour of another RTS or MMO ;-p
Don't get me wrong, Im as much a PC gamer as I am a console player, but writing off Gears is, really, just cutting off your nose to spite your face. It IS a good game. Simple as that. Whether you like it or not is, of course, a subjective matter, but for me it was one of the highlights of '06 and I'm still playing it and enjoying it today. I can't say the same for any PC titles I've played for a good long time (except MMO's, but then, those are kinda different).
I never played the PC port of Gears (since I only just got a PC thats up to running it) but I never really thought it would translate well, its built squarely with the control pad in mind, and I always had doubts over how well it would work for PC. Oh well. Guess that won't be a concern this time around, but to my mind, ports (at least, so long as they're decently done) and multiplatform releases are generally a Good Thing.
Very well said, the problem is pc gaming is generally an expensive pain. It will always serve a purpose as a leading edge platform because of its constantly changing and cutting edge specs, but console gaming is evolving for the better and i'm not sure we can say the same about the pc. Whether you like GOW or not, this isn't good news for pc owners.
PC computers aren't expensive. It just takes someone with a brain to find the good ones. Hell you could buy a good computer for about 300-450 quid; its just people don't want to make the effort and rather go the fast easy route just by buying some heavy sh!t.
Oh and don't listen to Cliffy B; he'll probably have his statements changed by Reiner. Fecking console dev, I hope he gets RROD!
f**k the PC as a gaming platform, why go to the trouble of developing a game that gets pirated to f**k and loses massive amounts of income, consoles are definitely where it's at.
I thought the PC version was ace and it worked pefectly for me too, But im not exactly dissapointed about this news. GOW is one of those games that you play enjoy and never go back too, it's just not that good, but it is good at being gears of war just not as good as people would have you think. Basically it's Shiny, Badass and makes you feel kickass manly neither of those qualities do i hold in high regard.
Meh, gotta love the snobbish PC gamers who turn their noses up at decent games in favour of another RTS or MMO ;-p
Don't get me wrong, Im as much a PC gamer as I am a console player, but writing off Gears is, really, just cutting off your nose to spite your face. It IS a good game. Simple as that. Whether you like it or not is, of course, a subjective matter, but for me it was one of the highlights of '06 and I'm still playing it and enjoying it today. I can't say the same for any PC titles I've played for a good long time (except MMO's, but then, those are kinda different).
I never played the PC port of Gears (since I only just got a PC thats up to running it) but I never really thought it would translate well, its built squarely with the control pad in mind, and I always had doubts over how well it would work for PC. Oh well. Guess that won't be a concern this time around, but to my mind, ports (at least, so long as they're decently done) and multiplatform releases are generally a Good Thing.
I think most peoples gripes are that the game was very poorly ported and optimized for the PC rather than the actually games was s**te.
It could be the best game in the world ever made but if people cant play it due to bugs/crashes etc then people are going to have a very poor and negative attitude towards it.
Your argument kinda falls flat on its face when you contradict yourself by saying to PC gamers on one hand "but writing off Gears is, really, just cutting off your nose to spite your face" then on the other hand saying that you have never actually played the PC version and what experience you had with it.
Also by telling us "It IS a good game. Simple as that." is just your opinion and not actual fact. Everyone will have there own opinions, there is no right or wrong when it comes to this.
I got the 360 version and it was a good play with hardly any issues but like i said, ive also played the PC version and it was p**s poor.
I think most peoples gripes are that the game was very poorly ported and optimized for the PC rather than the actually games was s**te.
It could be the best game in the world ever made but if people cant play it due to bugs/crashes etc then people are going to have a very poor and negative attitude towards it.
Your argument kinda falls flat on its face when you contradict yourself by saying to PC gamers on one hand "but writing off Gears is, really, just cutting off your nose to spite your face" then on the other hand saying that you have never actually played the PC version and what experience you had with it.
I was referring to those gamers who have never played the game on any format, and won't play it on PC because its a console shooter port.
Also by telling us "It IS a good game. Simple as that." is just your opinion and not actual fact. Everyone will have there own opinions, there is no right or wrong when it comes to this.
No, that isn't my opinion- I've had this argument many times, and should probably give up on the idea, and what I mean by that statement is simply that GoW is a well-made game. I could say the same about many games, and it wouldn't nescessarily mean that I like or dislike them, but I can recognise when a game boasts technical proficiency. I don't like Half-Life or Half-Life 2, but they are good games. No amount of personal dislike for the way they play can change that.
PC computers aren't expensive. It just takes someone with a brain to find the good ones. Hell you could buy a good computer for about 300-450 quid; its just people don't want to make the effort and rather go the fast easy route just by buying some heavy sh!t.
Its not the initial expense thats the issue for a lot of people, its the keeping it up to date thats the problem.
And besides, £300-£450 is still a lot of money to some people (myself included) when you can pick up an Xbox 360 for gaming for £150 now.
are you serious? while not PC exclusives, CoD, Bioshock, Grid, Hl2: Ep2, Portal, TF, are all fantastic games on the PC as are Stalker and BF2, and Crysis is decent enough
I've played all of the above, but I have no desire to go back and play any of them again. They just didn't hold any lasting appeal past the first playthrough for me, though they are indeed good games. My point was that I still enjoy playing through Gears again- largely for the splitscreen co-op, it has to be said.
So more fuel to the fire for idiots that think PC gaming is dying just because of what someone else has said, anyway if the shops cut back on PC software sales are bound to go down if there's less choice, hardly rocket science is it? That certainly doesn't mean it's dying!
So more fuel to the fire for idiots that think PC gaming is dying just because of what someone else has said, anyway if the shops cut back on PC software sales are bound to go down if there's less choice, hardly rocket science is it? That certainly doesn't mean it's dying!
Easy to see why people might think that way though- my local Game store now has just two racks of PC titles, compared to the five or six for each of the consoles, and my local supermarket no longer sells PC games.
But I think some of that actually points to the growing takeup of digital distribution versus physical software sales.
I skipped GoW on the PC because of all the horror stories. My mate was telling me he kept getting crashes and locking his machine. His solution that worked was to keep swapping his graphics cards around. A little bit of a chore don't you think?
I am not risking paying money for a game that won't run correctly on my machine. Maybe they don't want to c**k up the port like they did the first time... so maybe they will outsource the job and get someone else to do it for them.
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Its not the initial expense thats the issue for a lot of people, its the keeping it up to date thats the problem.
And besides, £300-£450 is still a lot of money to some people (myself included) when you can pick up an Xbox 360 for gaming for £150 now.
true, but you only have to spend more on a PC if you want the very latest games to look uber, consoles do look like crap after 5 years of the same hardware( my own PS2 looked crud for 99% of games in 2006, God Of War 2 did however give it back some glory ). On the other hand theres less need to upgrade PC hardware now because of the ports and the fact that most are using the unreal engine. Ill have had my 8800GT for a year in 6 weeks time( cost £168 ), and currently i have 0 need to upgrade, only game that doesnt run completely maxed out for me with AA,AF and @ 1680x1050 is crysis.
are you serious? while not PC exclusives, CoD, Bioshock, Grid, Hl2: Ep2, Portal, TF, are all fantastic games on the PC as are Stalker and BF2, and Crysis is decent enough
I've played all of the above, but I have no desire to go back and play any of them again. They just didn't hold any lasting appeal past the first playthrough for me, though they are indeed good games. My point was that I still enjoy playing through Gears again- largely for the splitscreen co-op, it has to be said. Split screen co-op is good in GoW alright and much better than the SP imo. I cant comment on the lasting appeal as ive 1400+hours on BF2 so far
The 360 is a cheap alternative to PC gaming. I've always said that the 360 is more of a threat to PC gaming than PS3. This proves my theory correct.
Hardly, what was originally a single-console exclusive staying on that console is hardly threatening pc gaming. That's not to say you're wrong about 360 threatening PC more than ps3, but this case certainly doesn't prove it.
true, but you only have to spend more on a PC if you want the very latest games to look uber, consoles do look like crap after 5 years of the same hardware( my own PS2 looked crud for 99% of games in 2006, God Of War 2 did however give it back some glory ). On the other hand theres less need to upgrade PC hardware now because of the ports and the fact that most are using the unreal engine. Ill have had my 8800GT for a year in 6 weeks time( cost £168 ), and currently i have 0 need to upgrade, only game that doesnt run completely maxed out for me with AA,AF and @ 1680x1050 is crysis.
Thats true, though £168 still seems a lot even for a good card like that compared to the price of a console, plus if your PC is getting on a bit chances are you may need a new motherboard or power supply (I had to settle for an 8600GT since my machine is a slimline model and to get a bigger card in would mean rehousing the entire thing and getting a new PSU)
Split screen co-op is good in GoW alright and much better than the SP imo. I cant comment on the lasting appeal as ive 1400+hours on BF2 so far
thats a LOT of hours Wish I could've got into BF2, it was fun but real world shooters rarely do it for me these days. BF2142 would have been awesome if not for all the unfixed bugs -_-
I'm a little concerned about what someone said in here, that PC gamers are fanboys because they know consoles suck. You aren't a fanboy if you are RIGHT.
I used to be an Epic fanboy to a certain degree. The original Unreal Tournament remains as my favourite game of all time, a game born on the PC and one of CliffyB's projects.
However, lately his attitude and that of Epic has been appalling. Aside from the Windows LIVE issues, the PC version of Gears of War was a good port. A good port doesn't neccessarily mean a great game, and while I think Gears of War actually is a good game, it's just that: good. It's not the innovative love-child of Microsoft and Jesus that the 360 community seems to state. As fun as the game is, it's still amazingly shallow with 2D characters a uninspired storyline and is far, far too short. Hell, the PC version had about an hours worth of extra content as was *still* too short.
If CliffyB and Epic are disappointed with the response to the PC version of Gears of War, it's not the fault of the PC community, it's the fact that the game was overhyped and overrated by the 360 community beforehand. It's as simple as that. They made a decent-but-overrated game, and when it got ported to the PC a year later they were releasing it to a group of players brought up on 3D shooters. They should have known this, they were the ones responsible for three of the PC's greatest shooter hits.
Let's not forget Unreal Tournament 3 as well, which was like a beta-version when compared the the vast array of options its predecessors had. No doubt a result of it being the first game in the series fully intended to be released on the 360 and PS3 from the start. If Epic are wondering why it hasn't sold and been responded to as well as them, it's not because the PC is a dying platform or because they don't appreciate the game any more, it's because aside from graphical prowess it's a far lesser game than the others. You can't release a PC game like that devoid of all options and customisation in this day and age and expect PC gamers to fully embrace it, especially when you've done so much better almost 10 years earlier.
Basically, Epic are releasing products lately that aren't exactly as worthy of their name as they used to be, and then they get all p**sy when the public doesn't agree with them.
Frankly, I don't personally care that much. Gears of War is fun, but I'm not going to cry because it's sequel isn't coming to my platform of choice. It's going to be Epic's loss, not mine in the long run. Besides, Gears of War 2 doesn't look that much better than the first one anyway from what I've seen... just more of the same really, with a few tweaks.
All in all, I think it's sad that Epic have seemed to turn their backs on the very platform that made them what they are.
I'm a little concerned about what someone said in here, that PC gamers are fanboys because they know consoles suck. You aren't a fanboy if you are RIGHT.
Wow, how could I have got it so wrong. You have now proven your point, ill go and upgrade my PC now and throw out my console.
A Fanboy can be right about something but its generally the way they will put that point across that makes them a Fanboy, if you look at your post you will see what I mean.
Thats true, though £168 still seems a lot even for a good card like that compared to the price of a console, plus if your PC is getting on a bit chances are you may need a new motherboard or power supply (I had to settle for an 8600GT since my machine is a slimline model and to get a bigger card in would mean rehousing the entire thing and getting a new PSU)
Horses for courses type of thing, they( oonsoles and PC ) end up costing around the same over the lifetime of the hardware, depending on how many console games you get during the year if you buy the cheaper PC version £168 will be made up etc. etc.
Trick is to get an 800W PSU with plenty of volts on the rails and you'll not have to change it
I buy loads of games and i spend 2400euro+ over the lifetime of my PS2 including all the controllers/mem cards etc. Ill pickup a 360 or PS3 myself at some stage, but in no rush, maybe when FF13 comes out that might change
thats a LOT of hours Wish I could've got into BF2, it was fun but real world shooters rarely do it for me these days. BF2142 would have been awesome if not for all the unfixed bugs -_-
lol, its a lot of hours alright, i enjoy playing it with mates, BF2 bugs are terrible also lol, i never got into 2142 although i was in the early closed beta and played a lot of it initially during the beta, didnt like the feel of the guns or the future thing
Im not even sure i want to pick this up anyway. I liked the sp for gears but after one playthrough i didnt want to go through again and thought that the mp was buggy and terrible.
I dont see what the big deal is about it not coming to pc. Imo it wasnt that great anyway(and im not into super awesome badass games that make people feel big ) though what it did for the cover system was amazing but thats about it.
The 360 is a cheap alternative to PC gaming. I've always said that the 360 is more of a threat to PC gaming than PS3. This proves my theory correct.
you might be right, i jumped on the xbox wagon from the PC as most if not all of the good PC games would come out on the xbox and then later 360.
the sad fact is that i would rather play games on my PC as its what i am used to and the games are cheaper, but the 360 has a good line up and gets games earlier.
This Clifford Belsinski or "Cliffford B" is really the most annoying sap in videogaming.
Just have a gander at him. Muscle-bound games programmer. When do you ever get muscle-bound and games programmer in the same sentance. It is f*cking ridiculous, geeks don't deserve muscles, let alone have them on their arms.
No wonder all he produces is violent, cocaine-up-your-nose-while-playing games for the 360. All that steroids and creatin in his blood is dictating the type of game he produces.
Now he has got a few muscles, he thinks he is cool and will hang around with the more casual 360 crowd and ignore the pale geeks he used to cater for on PC.
I know what you are Clifford and you can't escape from your inner essence. You are a geek, and a twisted one at that. Guns and violence don't make you cool.
well as i remember the pc version was better, still buggy as f**k though (and what was with tht 1 hour install?). Those guys at epic really do feel like tht game is the best game ever made or smthg as tht comment was probably meant 2 hurt people. truth is people who play pc games don't put up with sh1t games like tht while console gamers dont really know any better so of course its a great game for them another thing that kinda just annoys me is tht epic owe their entire goddamn business to the PC and now they are just shutting it out, ok its not a HUGE game but whatever you do i think you should always remember your roots and whoever says PC gaming is dead doesnt know what they are on abt. the pc will always be technically superior in every way (gameplay,sound,gfx etc) and there will always be devs who know that and will make stuff for it
Bad news this for the pc scene. Pc game sales have been poor for a number of years but it still keeps fighting. You only have to look at the lack of exclusives now on the pc to see it's struggling(most games are 360 ports these days, and certain ports take months to appear(assassin's creed etc).
The pc port of gears of war was a shoddy bug filled effort. Having spent months playing the pc version in co op mode i'm absolutely staggered how it got past the playtesting stage(i've never seen so many bugs). Of course it's great fun still to play, but it's definitely inferior to the 360 one. All because of the bugs.
Gears of war 2 being a 360 exclusive will no doubt help shift even more consoles. I know 3 pc owners who are gonna buy a 360 now after hearing this news.
I'm a little concerned about what someone said in here, that PC gamers are fanboys because they know consoles suck. You aren't a fanboy if you are RIGHT.
Wow, how could I have got it so wrong. You have now proven your point, ill go and upgrade my PC now and throw out my console.
A Fanboy can be right about something but its generally the way they will put that point across that makes them a Fanboy, if you look at your post you will see what I mean.
i dont think any1 should play JUST pc or JUST consoles so you can have the best of both worlds. but i do recommend that when a cross platform game comes out try it on the PC. if u got a good machine u will understand what pc gamers are on about, examples being bioshock and the upcoming fallout 3.
Bad news this for the pc scene. Pc game sales have been poor for a number of years but it still keeps fighting. You only have to look at the lack of exclusives now on the pc to see it's struggling(most games are 360 ports these days, and certain ports take months to appear(assassin's creed etc).
The pc port of gears of war was a shoddy bug filled effort. Having spent months playing the pc version in co op mode i'm absolutely staggered how it got past the playtesting stage(i've never seen so many bugs). Of course it's great fun still to play, but it's definitely inferior to the 360 one. All because of the bugs.
Gears of war 2 being a 360 exclusive will no doubt help shift even more consoles. I know 3 pc owners who are gonna buy a 360 now after hearing this news.
nice a pc gamer who will buy a 360 for just gears that sounds funny
I think ive sussed it out now. I think PC Gamers are probably the biggest Fanboys we have. Of course consoles will always have their Fanboy base, their targeted market assures us of that but PC Gamers, come on guys, you are old enough and wise enough to know better, yet its the same folks that will diss all things console and think that the by pressing W and D on the keyboard and then clicking their mouse button they are somehow better than console Gamers.
Pretty sad really.
no i do not think pc gamers think that way. they dont think they themselves are better but they know they get the technically superior games. thats why u get many pepl saying that consoles are for the dumb gamer. while i think thats a bit harsh the point is that console games are just never as complex
if its a good game it will be missed by me , i dont have a 360 just a ps3 and a good pc , havent played the first yet although im sure i will , any good game is welcome on all systems , ive heard things like this said before about not coming to pc , so ill just wait ( guess i have no choice) the new stalkers out next week anyway , happy gaming ..
Pc game sales have been poor for a number of years but it still keeps fighting.
This is what happens every couple of years. A new generation of consoles comes out (that can manage similar graphics, etc. etc.) and PC sales drop off a little as people go for the "cheaper" alternative.
In a year or two, the PS3 and 360 won't be able to compete with PCs for power and the truly grounbreaking games will come out on the PC. Epic will release GoW 15 on PC.
To put it in short - there is no "current gen" or "next gen" on PC. It is a console term that perfectly highlights the trends.
i have gears for the pc and its average. i honestly couldnt give a s**t if the second doesnt come out for pc. epic games never really have stood by their name, they should call themselves MEDIOCRE games
i have gears for the pc and its average. i honestly couldnt give a s**t if the second doesnt come out for pc. epic games never really have stood by their name, they should call themselves MEDIOCRE games
i have gears for the pc and its average. i honestly couldnt give a s**t if the second doesnt come out for pc. epic games never really have stood by their name, they should call themselves MEDIOCRE games
i have gears for the pc and its average. i honestly couldnt give a s**t if the second doesnt come out for pc. epic games never really have stood by their name, they should call themselves MEDIOCRE games
I laugh every time I hear that PC gaming is dead. Does no one realise that people have said that for the last 10 years?
Sure some games are going to be console only. But some games are PC only? World of Warcraft anyone? One of the most popular games in the world is only PC, and PC gaming is dead?!
I'm not even a MMORPG fan either. Give me Crysis, the Witcher, Fallout 3 and any FPS with a mouse and keyboard any day.
Does no one realise that people have said that for the last 10 years?
Some people just love to be sensationalist, and there's a certain amount of underlying resentment towards something they don't understand and have never been a part of (PC gaming). Even if they DID realise that the PC gaming is dying/dead myth has been around for aeons, they'll believe it because they WANT to believe it.
Well i have to say GOW is my fav game since Goldeneye on the N64 and i play it almost everyday still! Cant get enough of it!
Its a shame that they wont release it on PC because the game is better on the PC, it seems to run faster and has better graphics etc!
but im sure some scripty kiddys will find someway of extracting it from the box to the PC as you get the tools with Gears on PC to build Gears of war 3,4,5,6,7.......... so hopefully
If not then i shall have to steal a box for this game!
So this will be a 360 exclusive properly now then. Too bad for PC gamers who enjoyed the first. PC gaming is not dead far from it, one title that was built for console in the first place is not going to kill it either. PC gaming for me is dead as in I don't PC game anymore last games I played on PC were COD 4 and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
I just hope this shuts up some of the Sony fanbots who say all the 360 exclusives come to PC anyway so they can play them on that.
Having both consoles is not going to make Sony/Msoft mad at you you know. They wont stop selling games or accessories to you because you have both consoles.
I honestly could not care less. GoW1 was crap compared to other PC shooters. Btw I also speak as an Xbox360 owner and I don't intend to play it on the console either.
Just a few points to back up my arguement (as I hate it when people say something is crap and then don't say why they think so) - the weapon variety was crap compared to the FEAR and HalfLife series, the story was crap compared to Halflife (for example they didn't explain satisfactorily if the Locust are aliens or if they've always been living underground waiting for the right time to attack), the characters were awful, worst of all "Cole" - everytime he speaks I want to put a sharp object into my ears to make it stop. "Oooh I'm the Cole Train" etc, unlike the characters in HL2. The squad AI was terrible, and the harder difficulties feel like they don't help at all, unlike HL2 with Alyx. As far as multiplayer goes, TF2 is far more enjoyable than GoW. And I haven't even mentioned all the technical problems which plagued GoW PC for months after release.
This news also means maybe we'll read less about CliffyB in future (at least in PC mags/webbys). That guy is so full of himself. In truth he's just p**sed UT3 didn't sell. Maybe if Epic didn't alienate most of the community with 2k3/2k4 it would have been different.
Some people just love to be sensationalist, and there's a certain amount of underlying resentment towards something they don't understand and have never been a part of (PC gaming). Even if they DID realise that the PC gaming is dying/dead myth has been around for aeons, they'll believe it because they WANT to believe it.
So many people say the PC is dead without any real proof, that is not the reason Gears 2 isnt coming to PC
It's about getting their exclusives so they can sell their machines.
In Edge magazine a couple of months ago Cliffy B spoke out how much he loved programming for the PC, how much possibilities it gave him. Now, under Microsoft pressure, this message...
Unbelievable
This console war is getting tiresome. Nintendo is the only one making an actual profit with their machine, the other two are losing money they need to compensate with game sales. So, the war for exclusives is dragging on and on and on.
It is sad, real sad.
I won't miss GoW2 on the PC (get it on 360) but reading Cliffy B's words in Edge he certainly will!
It is such a sad thing this platform war. I find it hard to take Sony and Microsoft serious these days. They spread news that slags the PC and the other consoles down and their own little machine up.
Guys, I own all the consoles. But this s**t? This is bad for gaming.
i think the pc version of gears is even better than the 360 one, yes it has little bugs, but the frame rate is higher and you can ramp up the settings to make it look far better than the 360 version, i think the only real reason it wont be on pc, is cos of the ratio of games sold to games downloaded, lok at the leaderboard on both systems, how many people have played gears of war online on the pc? around 7000 last time i looked, i assume they are the once who have a 'proper' copy of it, very small ammount compared to how many have played it on 360
i think the pc version of gears is even better than the 360 one, yes it has little bugs, but the frame rate is higher and you can ramp up the settings to make it look far better than the 360 version, i think the only real reason it wont be on pc, is cos of the ratio of games sold to games downloaded, lok at the leaderboard on both systems, how many people have played gears of war online on the pc? around 7000 last time i looked, i assume they are the once who have a 'proper' copy of it, very small ammount compared to how many have played it on 360
Yeah i agree, but they shot there selfs in the foot by charging the play the game online, and if they have a GOLD account, then they must surely own the Xbox360 version - so they dropped the Gold Membership now theres loads playing online!
For what it's worth, I'd have bought it, played it and probably enjoyed it.
I'm a little dissapointed to see a decent developer essentially abandoning a platform, but it's hardly the betrayal of epic proportions some folk have reacted to it as. Just business. A bit disloyal, perhaps. But then, the amount of piracy that is said to be going on in pc land, they must have felt a wee bit betrayed too.
It's kind of ironic: CliffyB and Epic feel somehwat betrayed by the PC community because Gears of War PC got less than stellar reviews, because it really was a less than stellar game. The real betrayal comes from the 360 side of things, since they're the ones who misled them into thinking Gears of War was the flawless masterpiece it clearly isn't.
The fact is, most PC players probably won't care, just like I've never seen any of them commenting on wanting Halo 3 on PC, which is a prime example of a console-centric release that is decidely average but gets hyped as a 10/10 title.
Aaaaah, Gears of War, the game that sucked so bad that I had to move my pc to another place, cause when I played GoW, it sucked out all the air around the pc and since then I have a place in my room with no air, it's like the 8th Wonder.
So yea, I could care less about GoW2, but it's not in human strength to care any less than I do.
Ahhh. PC gamers. The worst fanboys of them all. Gaming's Arians. "I don't care that I can't have that cake. I don't want that cake anyway, it's a Jew cake." Nubs.
Ahhh. PC gamers. The worst fanboys of them all. Gaming's Arians. "I don't care that I can't have that cake. I don't want that cake anyway, it's a Jew cake." Nubs.
I love Jew cake.
Aaaah, way to go Mr.Racist, you probably never heard about "different opinions" in your 'racist society'.
You see, not everyone has to like 'Jew cake' (what's that anyway?) but that doesn't mean they don't like it because it's Jewish. Stop being ingorant you racist.
Ahhh. PC gamers. The worst fanboys of them all. Gaming's Arians. "I don't care that I can't have that cake. I don't want that cake anyway, it's a Jew cake." Nubs.
I love Jew cake.
Aaaah, way to go Mr.Racist, you probably never heard about "different opinions" in your 'racist society'.
You're an idiot.
You see, not everyone has to like 'Jew cake' (what's that anyway?) but that doesn't mean they don't like it because it's Jewish.
It highlights the point that a lot of PC gamers seem to think games are 'shit' just because they come from a console. No, not everyone likes Gears, even some 360 owners don't like it, which is fair enough but dismissing games just because they were originally console games, like a lot of elitist nobs on here do, is fucking retarded.
Stop being ingorant you racist.
You're an idiot. Judaism's a religion not a race, you tool. So if you're going to accuse me of being something I'm not then 'Anti-Semite' would be more apt. And as you know nothing about my background I wouldn't bother.
You are not very good with analogies, are you?
Maybe you're just not as intelligent as you like to think you are, Hmm? o_0
Aaaaah, Gears of War, the game that sucked so bad that I had to move my pc to another place, cause when I played GoW, it sucked out all the air around the pc and since then I have a place in my room with no air, it's like the 8th Wonder.
So yea, I could care less about GoW2, but it's not in human strength to care any less than I do.
The Sony fanbot is back oh wait he is not a Sony fanbot as he owns a PC and is really super intelligent. He/She can play all the Msoft titles they want on that because they all go to PC anyway. . Not so long ago saying you played all the Msoft titles on PC as they came to that format so didn't need to buy a 360. Now saying that all the Msoft games are s**te anyway. Think this person is confused.
You mean, like those console gamers who think that games are 'shit' just because they come from a pc? Do I see double standards in your posts?
Erm, no, as I didn't say I hate PC games just because they come from a PC, so you don't see double standards in my post There no-doubt are console gamers that think that way but it seems to happen a lot more often on the PC side. There's no doubting that a lot of PC gamers are elitist snobs as far as console gaming is concerned. I have a feeling that's got something to do with the perceived difficulty of getting up and running as a 'PC gamer', be it start-up costs, running costs, technical issues, whatever. A lot of these snobs seem to think that because they have broken through or gotten past these, again, perceived difficulties that somehow makes them superior to the unwashed console masses and gives them the right to dismiss anything that originates on said consoles as inferior rubbish.
I admit my first post implied ALL PC gamers were like that, which blatantly isn't the case but you've got to admit there's quite a high percentage that are.
When Blizzard only announced Diablo III for PC, every console gamer wanted it on their Xbox360/PS3 as well, same counts for Dragon Age, StarCraft II, DoW II, Crysis and all other PC (timed) exclusives even though not all of those are suited for a controller.
You see, people are still jealous about PC gaming (the games that are coming out for it at least) despite all those years of death declarations and doom and gloom when there wasn't a big company to deny those idiotic claims (there still isn't btw, the PCGA isn't convincing at all).
Of course, it goes the other way around too; GoW2, Fable 2, Heavy Rain, The Darkness, LBP, I'd certainly love to play them as well but they ain't coming out on PC. "Ai" I say then since I love the way I play my games on PC too much to buy a console just for these titles and I guess there are many gamers who don't want to ditch their controllers for keyboard/mouse as well.
No matter how you spin it but the reality is that the three high-end platforms are all worth it and just seeing a title like GoW2 being made exclusive to a single console isn't going to change the fact that even if you have only one machine you're still going to plenty of game to enjoy yourself with, especially if you take a glimpse at the PC back catalogue which remains unsurpassed. 2008 is a slow PC year and won't rival 2007 probably, not even with some excellent titles this Fall, but 2009 seems like another renaissance again.
No, not everyone likes Gears, even some 360 owners don't like it, which is fair enough but dismissing games just because they were originally console games, like a lot of elitist nobs on here do, is fucking retarded.
That depends on the circumstances.
No, not all console games are bad just because they are console games. I've played a lot of console games that I've thoroughly enjoyed, some of which have ported to PC later.
However, many PC gamers feel that the trend of particular genres of games born on the PC and sequels to existing PC games becoming primarily console releases now has resulted in these games being dumbed down to suit the simplicity of a control pad as well as make the game easier to get into and less complex. This results in many recent games looking pretty but feeling shallow, devoid of options and somewhat anemic.
It's really only with the coming of the 360 and the PS3 that the war seems to have extended to the PC as well... usually the console wars pretty much kept to themselves. And that's because a lot of PC gamers feel that the console market is dumbing down things that used to be theirs, since the genres such as the 3D shooter, RTS, etc. are moving over, and having to simplify themselves to suit a different style of play and appeal to the masses.
Why is it that every bloody time someone from Epic is interviewed they whinge and complain that PC sales are dying, and then there is the inevitable flame-war thread. PC game sales are declining at retail: true. Is this due to a lack of quality titles? No. It's due to a variety of factors - namely, the huge popularity of consoles (real or perceived), shelf-space paid for by the console manufacturers, and the rise of the MMO and paid-for download services such as steam and direct2drive. I bet that if you took the total combined revenue from PC games over the last year, across all forms of distribution, it would more than hold its own against consoles. Hell, 10m WoW players, paying 9 quid a month - that's over a billion quid in revenue just there. Not to mention sales of the Sims, and things from steam, popcap games (shudders), etc. And there is a very strong lineup of games on the horizon:
Dawn of War 2 Far Cry 2 Crysis: Warhead Diablo 3 WH40k MMO (not for a couple of years, but still) HL2: EP3 Portal 2 Spore Dragon Age: Origins C&C: Red Alert 3 WoW: WotLK LOTRO: MoM NWN2: SotZ Among others...
Currently, I am spending a lot of time catching up with some pc games after spending so much time on the Wii. At the moment my time is divided between the Witcher, DoW: Soulstorm, STALKER, NWN2 (and MotB) and Civ 4.
Played a bit of GoW on the PC (tried both mouse/keyboard and gamepad) and honestly couldn't get the point of it. The graphics weren't bad (I particularly liked the architecture), but the gameplay was just very limited. Run from here to there, duck, then fire frustratingly weak spray weapon (typical console affair) at almost-static enemy. Just didn't keep my interest at all.
It's always disappointing to hear about games not making it to the PC, but I can't honestly say that I'm gutted over this one.
All these sour PC gamers make me laugh. Trying to make Gears 2 sound too dull or simple. I play UT3 on PC, lets face it its a game made for mouse/keyboard, but it is one of the most simple games EVER. Pick up a gun, run and gun -.-"
Don't try to put Gears down because you have been shafted. It's gonna be awesome. Everyone knows it. Stop lying to yourselves. Get over it. Or buy a 360.
All these sour PC gamers make me laugh. Trying to make Gears 2 sound too dull or simple. I play UT3 on PC, lets face it its a game made for mouse/keyboard, but it is one of the most simple games EVER. Pick up a gun, run and gun -.-"
Don't try to put Gears down because you have been shafted. It's gonna be awesome. Everyone knows it. Stop lying to yourselves. Get over it. Or buy a 360.
All these sour PC gamer make me laugh. Trying to make Gears 2 sound too dull or simple. I play UT3 on PC, lets face it its a game made for mouse/keyboard, but it is one of the most simple games EVER. Pick up a gun, run and gun -.-"
Don't try to put Gears down because you have been shafted. It's gonna be awesome. Everyone knows it. Stop lying to yourselves. Get over it. Or buy a 360.
Played a bit of GoW on the PC (tried both mouse/keyboard and gamepad) and honestly couldn't get the point of it. The graphics weren't bad (I particularly liked the architecture), but the gameplay was just very limited. Run from here to there, duck, then fire frustratingly weak spray weapon (typical console affair) at almost-static enemy. Just didn't keep my interest at all.
It's always disappointing to hear about games not making it to the PC, but I can't honestly say that I'm gutted over this one.
P.
Fair enough but to the truth I believe that Gears should of stayed on console it doesn't seem to have transfered well to PC going by comments here and elsewhere.
It played very nicely on the 360 and it was a blast while it lasted.
Fair enough but to the truth I believe that Gears should of stayed on console it doesn't seem to have transfered well to PC going by comments here and elsewhere.
To be honest, I thought it was a very good port. Using either mouse/keyboard or gamepad worked fine, the interface was PC-ized nicely, and the graphics seemed optimised.
Fair enough but to the truth I believe that Gears should of stayed on console it doesn't seem to have transfered well to PC going by comments here and elsewhere.
To be honest, I thought it was a very good port. Using either mouse/keyboard or gamepad worked fine, the interface was PC-ized nicely, and the graphics seemed optimised.
i think pc gaming is dead and buried.all those upgrades dont think so.xbox 360 is just as good and easy. i used to pc game a lot but no more not when the consoles are what they are today.i new gears wouldnt be write for pc.
i think pc gaming is dead and buried.all those upgrades dont think so.xbox 360 is just as good and easy. i used to pc game a lot but no more not when the consoles are what they are today.i new gears wouldnt be write for pc.
I did the same I used to be an avid PC'er but now do not have the time or inclination for it so enjoy console gaming more. Although I would say PC gaming is far from dead (it is dead for me because I chose to kill it).
Mr. B. Please put Gears 2 on PC i don't care if some people dont have the minimum requirements theyre just busy sucking on bananas or somethin. I loved the PC version of Gears 1 it was the best game for me if u put Gears 2 on pc at least more people would buy it instead of us buying xbox360 when all other games suck balls except gears.
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Wish I could've got into BF2, it was fun but real world shooters rarely do it for me these days. BF2142 would have been awesome if not for all the unfixed bugs -_-
