Someone at THQ is getting bollocked this morning: a full, developer-commentated video of a new Gears-like Warhammer 40k action game, called Space Marine, has leaked all over the internet.
As you can probably guess Space Marine is a third-person action affair (where you play as a Space Marine!) and according to the THQ narrator it's all about an "up-close personal, visceral, melee experience."
"It's the first time that the Warhammer license has been done in such an up-close and personal manner," says the anonymous narrator, "where as the MMO and RTS are more of a god-like experience, we want to get up close and personal."
It looks a bit like Gears-meets-Devil May Cry, with ranged combat taking a backseat for edgy, shaky-cam sword combat with multiple enemies. It's also as violent as buggery and looks lovely.
Apparently the game's being developed by THQ Australia and not Relic, which is responsible for the excellent Warhammer 40k RTS series.
The video's being swatted off of websites at the moment, but you can still catch it on Tescali Games. Quick!
I dont recall from the space marine universe marines running about on their own with a power sword? If they can balance the combat and make it a bit more large scale battles you take part in then im all for it, otherwise i'll just stick with GoW thanks.
Looks sweet. It's seems like the game is in a quite advanced phase of production uh? Never heard of it tough. Even I don't like DMC kind of games very much, it's always good to rape people with a chainsword...
Bolt pistol which acted like a weak machine gun? Where's the rest of the squad?
My thoughts exactly. If it ain't co-op over t'internet then 99% of people won't take a 2nd look at this. It desperately needs to have a multiplayer campaign or it'll sink without a trace.
Why are there any guns in this game at all? They seem to have homeopathic effects at best. If the whole game revolves around roughly 3 execution moves and non-tactical sword action then it'll be one to avoid. Although the 'chunky bloke in mech armour' stylings, background art and bullet trails look very Gears, the gameplay doesn't look anywhere near......yet?
An Imperial Fist in blue colours? Bolt pistol which acted like a weak machine gun? Where's the rest of the squad?
Otherwise im sold on it already.
1- I think its a Crimson Fist. They have the same fist emblem as Imperial Fists, but have navy blue armour with (you guessed it) red gauntlets. 2- bolt pistols should be like machine guns... though not really weak ones. 3- Maybe the rest of the squad is... um.. hiding. Yeah. Ok, so they really need a good reasonj for that one.
From the looks of it he maybe cut off from his men. He has the general look of a Space Marine seargent as normal marines don't tend to walk around with their helmets off.....with exception of the space wolves.
Hopefully this is the start of more 40k styled games as it is a rich universe with plenty of bad guys out there. Bring on a Horus Heresy styled set piece
hmmm. Looks terribly repetitive at this stage. Although the visuals are very nice. I don't particularly have much confidence in THQ as they've used to have a bad habit of rushing the hell out of anything it published.
Though i ditched warhammer years ago, i like the idea of a game based around it, as it is such a rich dark and violent world with so many over the top weapons. Chainfist!
More space marines? I'm getting pretty sick of them at the moment. Isn't it enough we have Halo, Gears, Killzone, Unreal Tourny, Timeshift, Haze etc... Enough already. It seems companies have lost all creativity.
More space marines? I'm getting pretty sick of them at the moment. Isn't it enough we have Halo, Gears, Killzone, Unreal Tourny, Timeshift, Haze etc... Enough already. It seems companies have lost all creativity.
okay no offence to you, but do you realise that space marines are actually genetically modified humans weighing approxmately 300kg and they could prolly crush master chief with one hand, and this is just a regular one, you will be playing an elite seargent in the game...
More space marines? I'm getting pretty sick of them at the moment. Isn't it enough we have Halo, Gears, Killzone, Unreal Tourny, Timeshift, Haze etc... Enough already. It seems companies have lost all creativity.
er, right you do realise Space Marines came before all those games in the list and are only similar to the marines in starcrft not any of the games you mentioned there.
I want a Power Claw and I want to see Dark Angels in this!
I heard GW had a big announcement planned for this years Gamesday next week, and what with them re-releasing their Space marine range next month, this must be it. I had hoped for an FPS, but this should do nicely enough. I couldn't make out the chapter markings on his shoulder, he could be an independent character, or since he's fighting Chaos forces a member of the Ordo-Malleus?
i agree with some posts here with the fact that the Bolt pistol looks too weak and it should sound heavier and more powerful as it fires explosive rounds not plastic ball-bearings! but this is an early build so lets wait and see.
I heard GW had a big announcement planned for this years Gamesday next week, and what with them re-releasing their Space marine range next month, this must be it. I had hoped for an FPS, but this should do nicely enough. I couldn't make out the chapter markings on his shoulder, he could be an independent character, or since he's fighting Chaos forces a member of the Ordo-Malleus?
Good point! although sure someone mentioned a possable link to a Crimson Fist due to the Blue armor and the Imperial Fist Markings.
Tbh since you are likely playing a Marine Seargent (Bolt Pistol and Chain Sword kinda gave that away) that is what a seargent would do if his squad are all dead! he'd likely try and kill every filty chaos spawn he could get his hands on in the name of the god emperor!
More space marines? I'm getting pretty sick of them at the moment. Isn't it enough we have Halo, Gears, Killzone, Unreal Tourny, Timeshift, Haze etc... Enough already. It seems companies have lost all creativity.
Its a member of the adeptus Astartes. If done properly, it will be a million times better than all of the above due to the rich source material and all the genetic enhancements. That said, it looks very much like those mentioned above. One would hope you can actually switch out the weapons. bolt pistols suck.
Dont sergeants have two studs in forehead...didnt see them here. Would have been better if it had been Dark Angels or Space Wolves and not bunch of uptight Dorn spawn.
More space marines? I'm getting pretty sick of them at the moment. Isn't it enough we have Halo, Gears, Killzone, Unreal Tourny, Timeshift, Haze etc... Enough already. It seems companies have lost all creativity.
Its a member of the adeptus Astartes. If done properly, it will be a million times better than all of the above due to the rich source material and all the genetic enhancements. That said, it looks very much like those mentioned above. One would hope you can actually switch out the weapons. bolt pistols suck.
Dont sergeants have two studs in forehead...didnt see them here. Would have been better if it had been Dark Angels or Space Wolves and not bunch of uptight Dorn spawn.
To answer some of the inacuracies (I've been involved with GW stuff for around 20 years):
The guy thats fed up with space marines - Games Workshop created an increadibly rich background for it's games in the mid 80's, massively predating anything you're thinking of
The studs are awarded for each decade of service
Bolt pistols shouldn't suck, they fire small self propelled projectiles with a split second after impact delayed charge to ensure they explode inside the body.
As the elite of the elite, marines are called upon to serve in many ways much like todays SAS. The original background material described how they recieved 19 implanted genetically engineered organs and recieve such a high level of training, that individual marines could quite feasibly be dispatched to solo missions, attached to another service etc etc
personally i wouldn't mind seeing a 3rd person tactical gears of war stylee 40k game or maybe a COD4 style one.
Hmm, 3rd person dmc style seems a bit... off tbh. Still looks nice and could potentially be a good 3rd person action game in its own right. DMC beater? probably not.
More space marines? I'm getting pretty sick of them at the moment. Isn't it enough we have Halo, Gears, Killzone, Unreal Tourny, Timeshift, Haze etc... Enough already. It seems companies have lost all creativity.
Its a member of the adeptus Astartes. If done properly, it will be a million times better than all of the above due to the rich source material and all the genetic enhancements. That said, it looks very much like those mentioned above. One would hope you can actually switch out the weapons. bolt pistols suck.
Dont sergeants have two studs in forehead...didnt see them here. Would have been better if it had been Dark Angels or Space Wolves and not bunch of uptight Dorn spawn.
To answer some of the inacuracies (I've been involved with GW stuff for around 20 years):
The guy thats fed up with space marines - Games Workshop created an increadibly rich background for it's games in the mid 80's, massively predating anything you're thinking of
The studs are awarded for each decade of service
Bolt pistols shouldn't suck, they fire small self propelled projectiles with a split second after impact delayed charge to ensure they explode inside the body.
As the elite of the elite, marines are called upon to serve in many ways much like todays SAS. The original background material described how they recieved 19 implanted genetically engineered organs and recieve such a high level of training, that individual marines could quite feasibly be dispatched to solo missions, attached to another service etc etc
What i meant was that the bolt pistol he was using sucked...From what i understood bolt pistols/bolters shot out mini rockets pratically. They should be exploding into pieces.
I thought studs were 100 years service.
Would be nice if they put in bits from the gene enhancements like the regen and enhanced vision etc.
Always fight in a squad though...like republic commando. That would be fantastic
More space marines? I'm getting pretty sick of them at the moment. Isn't it enough we have Halo, Gears, Killzone, Unreal Tourny, Timeshift, Haze etc... Enough already. It seems companies have lost all creativity.
Its a member of the adeptus Astartes. If done properly, it will be a million times better than all of the above due to the rich source material and all the genetic enhancements. That said, it looks very much like those mentioned above. One would hope you can actually switch out the weapons. bolt pistols suck.
Dont sergeants have two studs in forehead...didnt see them here. Would have been better if it had been Dark Angels or Space Wolves and not bunch of uptight Dorn spawn.
To answer some of the inacuracies (I've been involved with GW stuff for around 20 years):
The guy thats fed up with space marines - Games Workshop created an increadibly rich background for it's games in the mid 80's, massively predating anything you're thinking of
The studs are awarded for each decade of service
Bolt pistols shouldn't suck, they fire small self propelled projectiles with a split second after impact delayed charge to ensure they explode inside the body.
As the elite of the elite, marines are called upon to serve in many ways much like todays SAS. The original background material described how they recieved 19 implanted genetically engineered organs and recieve such a high level of training, that individual marines could quite feasibly be dispatched to solo missions, attached to another service etc etc
What i meant was that the bolt pistol he was using sucked...From what i understood bolt pistols/bolters shot out mini rockets pratically. They should be exploding into pieces.
I thought studs were 100 years service.
Would be nice if they put in bits from the gene enhancements like the regen and enhanced vision etc.
Always fight in a squad though...like republic commando. That would be fantastic
Explosive rounds simply do more damage, they're not grenades. And he's not using a "bolt pistol", it's a "bolter", or "bolt gun".
If he is then he'd be in Grey Knight armour so that theory is out lol.
Could simply be one of the Second Founding chapters
He isn't wearing any chapter iconography that I recognise Both shouler pads have skull emblems, the right one matches the skull icon/logo for the game, and the left one looks like a servo skull. The armour looks like it could be blue or grey, and maybe they simply haven't decided what chapter to use yet.
PS, grey knights aren't the only members of the Ordo-Malleus.
More space marines? I'm getting pretty sick of them at the moment. Isn't it enough we have Halo, Gears, Killzone, Unreal Tourny, Timeshift, Haze etc... Enough already. It seems companies have lost all creativity.
Several of those games don't feature any space marines whatsoever.
Timeshift is set on Earth, the character you play is a scientist, and none of the enemies are space marines.
Haze is also set on earth, the character you play is a genetically modified (earth-bound) soldier, and none of the enemies are space marines.
It's been a while since I've played Killzone, but I don't think that has any space marines either. It features members of the (space) navy, (space) special ops, and (space) army, but IIRC doesn't have any members of the (space) marines .
I believe Halo features soldiers rather than marines, too.
I don't think Gears of War ever specifies whether the characters are soldiers or marines, so they could be either .
Oh come on why hasn't anyone mention the blood angles? The black rage would fit in perfectly for this kind of game. And blood angles have the best backstory of all the chapters what with the fall and all.
Oh come on why hasn't anyone mention the blood angles? The black rage would fit in perfectly for this kind of game. And blood angles have the best backstory of all the chapters what with the fall and all.
Explosive rounds simply do more damage, they're not grenades. And he's not using a "bolt pistol", it's a "bolter", or "bolt gun".
no, thats definately a bolt pistol. Not even marines can handle bolter's one handed...but thats just being picky on my behalf really.
Grey Knights use psy weapons so its not them. Could be Death Watch but doubful. I agree that its most likely crimson fists...come on, Fist on shoulder pad = Dorn Spawn...(there was a fist on a shoulder pad right?or did i just make that up? If not then blantantly going to be the boy scouts in blue.)
It would be good to see more than orks and chaos. Eldar perhaps, or maybe some Tau? Damn lets go the whole hog and get some squats in there.
In regards to the studs, if it is 25 years, can you imagine how many studs someone like Leonidas or Ragnar has. Pure metal in their heads. (course i realise that isnt the case..but its a nice image)
As for Sanguinus' lot having the best back story...pshh, Night Lords, Alpha Legion, Dark Angels and Legion of the Damned top that one.
Explosive rounds simply do more damage, they're not grenades. And he's not using a "bolt pistol", it's a "bolter", or "bolt gun".
no, thats definately a bolt pistol. Not even marines can handle bolter's one handed...but thats just being picky on my behalf really.
Grey Knights use psy weapons so its not them. Could be Death Watch but doubful. I agree that its most likely crimson fists...come on, Fist on shoulder pad = Dorn Spawn...(there was a fist on a shoulder pad right?or did i just make that up? If not then blantantly going to be the boy scouts in blue.)
It would be good to see more than orks and chaos. Eldar perhaps, or maybe some Tau? Damn lets go the whole hog and get some squats in there.
In regards to the studs, if it is 25 years, can you imagine how many studs someone like Leonidas or Ragnar has. Pure metal in their heads. (course i realise that isnt the case..but its a nice image)
As for Sanguinus' lot having the best back story...pshh, Night Lords, Alpha Legion, Dark Angels and Legion of the Damned top that one.
No fist on shoulder, it's a skull, and no red gloved hand either. Also it is a bolt gun, look closer and you'll see, a bolt pistol is much smaller and "chunkier".
As for the studs? there hasn't been an explanation in quite a few years, but the last I read they varied from chapter to chapter, and different studs represented a different number of years service, i.e.; 10/25/50/100.
As for not being able to handle a bolter with one hand? Pisch!! It'd be a piece of cake for an eight foot tall genetic super soldier in power armour. _________________
Where are my Gaunt's Ghosts games? I've been patient for ages.
Now that, id pay for.
Ive never seen one handed bolters, i assumed that the recoil would be too much, but as they say, assumptions make an ass of u and me.
There have been plenty of Citadel miniatures made with Space Marines firing their bolters one handed, bet their not as accurate as when fired properly, but still a better shot than an Ork any day("don't give the big green space monkey a gun, you know he's only going to shoot 'imself, again")
The marine in this trailer could easily belong to an chapter invented by the game's development team. After all, the Blood Ravens were invented for Dawn of War.
Explosive rounds simply do more damage, they're not grenades. And he's not using a "bolt pistol", it's a "bolter", or "bolt gun".
no, thats definately a bolt pistol. Not even marines can handle bolter's one handed...but thats just being picky on my behalf really.
Grey Knights use psy weapons so its not them. Could be Death Watch but doubful. I agree that its most likely crimson fists...come on, Fist on shoulder pad = Dorn Spawn...(there was a fist on a shoulder pad right?or did i just make that up? If not then blantantly going to be the boy scouts in blue.)
It would be good to see more than orks and chaos. Eldar perhaps, or maybe some Tau? Damn lets go the whole hog and get some squats in there.
In regards to the studs, if it is 25 years, can you imagine how many studs someone like Leonidas or Ragnar has. Pure metal in their heads. (course i realise that isnt the case..but its a nice image)
As for Sanguinus' lot having the best back story...pshh, Night Lords, Alpha Legion, Dark Angels and Legion of the Damned top that one.
No fist on shoulder, it's a skull, and no red gloved hand either. Also it is a bolt gun, look closer and you'll see, a bolt pistol is much smaller and "chunkier".
As for the studs? there hasn't been an explanation in quite a few years, but the last I read they varied from chapter to chapter, and different studs represented a different number of years service, i.e.; 10/25/50/100.
As for not being able to handle a bolter with one hand? Pisch!! It'd be a piece of cake for an eight foot tall genetic super soldier in power armour. _________________
no not even a space marine can handle a bolter one handed they may be 8 foot tall but the thing is a cannon it fires rounds larger than 50 caliber.
Obviously you know nothing about Warhammer 40k, so go back to playing with your Legos, and leave this to those who know what they're talking about.
Explosive rounds simply do more damage, they're not grenades. And he's not using a "bolt pistol", it's a "bolter", or "bolt gun".
no, thats definately a bolt pistol. Not even marines can handle bolter's one handed...but thats just being picky on my behalf really.
Grey Knights use psy weapons so its not them. Could be Death Watch but doubful. I agree that its most likely crimson fists...come on, Fist on shoulder pad = Dorn Spawn...(there was a fist on a shoulder pad right?or did i just make that up? If not then blantantly going to be the boy scouts in blue.)
It would be good to see more than orks and chaos. Eldar perhaps, or maybe some Tau? Damn lets go the whole hog and get some squats in there.
In regards to the studs, if it is 25 years, can you imagine how many studs someone like Leonidas or Ragnar has. Pure metal in their heads. (course i realise that isnt the case..but its a nice image)
As for Sanguinus' lot having the best back story...pshh, Night Lords, Alpha Legion, Dark Angels and Legion of the Damned top that one.
No fist on shoulder, it's a skull, and no red gloved hand either. Also it is a bolt gun, look closer and you'll see, a bolt pistol is much smaller and "chunkier".
As for the studs? there hasn't been an explanation in quite a few years, but the last I read they varied from chapter to chapter, and different studs represented a different number of years service, i.e.; 10/25/50/100.
As for not being able to handle a bolter with one hand? Pisch!! It'd be a piece of cake for an eight foot tall genetic super soldier in power armour. _________________
no not even a space marine can handle a bolter one handed they may be 8 foot tall but the thing is a cannon it fires rounds larger than 50 caliber.
Obviously you know nothing about Warhammer 40k, so go back to playing with your Legos, and leave this to those who know what they're talking about.
autally i collected the space marine minatures for 5 years
So? That makes you the expert ehh? I've been collecting for 20 years, I think I know a lot more than you kid.
I would like to say that heavy recoil on a weapon would still be heavy recoil, no matter how strong you are (unless we're talking Superman strength - which we aren't). It's the sudden jolt, that is almost impossible to brace against, whether you can bench 40 kilos or 400.
However, I suspect some of you are thinking of heavy bolters when you say they can't be held or fired one handed. I'm no expert mind.
autally i collected the space marine minatures for 5 years
So? That makes you the expert ehh? I've been collecting for 20 years, I think I know a lot more than you kid.
I would like to say that heavy recoil on a weapon would still be heavy recoil, no matter how strong you are (unless we're talking Superman strength - which we aren't). It's the sudden jolt, that is almost impossible to brace against, whether you can bench 40 kilos or 400.
However, I suspect some of you are thinking of heavy bolters when you say they can't be held or fired one handed. I'm no expert mind.
no i can tell the diffrence bettween a bolter and a heavy bolter
Well if you can then you're obviously a total dumbie!
As for the recoil? The Bolter has built in suppressors to compensate for recoil, and any way, the way a Bolter fires you wouldn't get that much recoil, take a look here.
on a side note the table top is only one reference the devs could use. I'm sure there's plenty of images and books that have marines doing things that break the tt rules.
on a side note the table top is only one reference the devs could use. I'm sure there's plenty of images and books that have marines doing things that break the tt rules.
The TT rules for the bolter have never said a Space marine can't fire it one handed. It's a rapid fire Weapon, so the rules are that if you move you can fire it twice up to half range(12" or if you stand still you can choose to fire once up to full range(24", which would imply you only need to use it two handed when firing at long range. And GW are still making miniatures of Space Marines firing bolters single handed. But try convincing some people of that.
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