Ex-Xbox head Peter Moore has revealed how Microsoft was "completely fixated on Sony" with its Xbox Strategy.
Speaking in the second part of an interview with The Guardian, Moore revealed that Nintendo wasn't even considered when discussing console strategies with Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer (and now Wii's at the top).
"In January (2003) I flew up [to Redmond] and had lunch with Steve Ballmer and you don't say no to Ballmer," Moore said, discussing his route into Xbox. "We had a great lunch and he convinced me that Microsoft was going to take on Sony; so I get to put on my suit of armour, get on my horse and take on Sony again - but with a little bit more money this time!"
It was a classic "build or buy" conversation, said the now EA Sport boss. "Xbox had launched but it was an aggressive black box for shooters, and how do we evolve that, how do we build the next Xbox, how do we get after Sony?
"Interestingly, we were just completely fixated on Sony," Moore revealed. "Nintendo didn't even come into the conversation. But Steve was very compelling, particularly when you're one-on-one with him in his office - we talked about what we'd done to compete with Sony, where I felt their weaknesses were."
Microsoft had "a little bit of a concern" with Sony, Moore added. "We wanted to keep them out of the living room, from a software and services perspective," he said.
"He wanted my attitude, he didn't care what I'd achieved at Sega, he wanted to know how I was going to win for Microsoft, how we were going to take on Sony, how would we compete with - or acquire - Nintendo. Those were the conversations in those days."
And now Microsoft's out there chasing Nintendo's mainstream success. We won't point out the irony - that'd be mean.
So, during 2003, after the massive success Sony have had with their Playsation console and the following dominance of the PS2, along with the relative failure of the Gamecube, Microsoft were "completely fixated on Sony" and wanted themselves to be in Sony's shoes and make loads of money.
Well f*ck me... really? I would never have thought.
It's hardly surprising, wouldn't they want to go after the market leader? Nintendo were not threatening anyone with another GC and it's not exactly Microsoft-esque to settle for second is it??
And if MS had gone for Nintendo, we could have seen them just fighting for their small market share and Sony running off in the distance!
Although he states "Interestingly, we were just completely fixated on Sony" and "Nintendo didn't even come into the conversation." But then states "He wanted my attitude, he didn't care what I'd achieved at Sega, he wanted to know how I was going to win for Microsoft, how we were going to take on Sony, how would we compete with - or acquire - Nintendo."
Did they come into the conversation or not Petey??
All i care about is the quality of the software. I just go where the good games are, well the ones that i like that is. And at this point in time, thats' MS and the Xbox360. As for all this "how do we take on Sony" crap, i really couldn't care less what the various execs get up to. I would wager money on it not being exactly cosha though!
"He wanted my attitude, he didn't care what I'd achieved at Sega, he wanted to know how I was going to win for Microsoft, how we were going to take on Sony, how would we compete with - or acquire - Nintendo. Those were the conversations in those days."
Learn to walk before you try to run, Mister Ballmer. Acquire Nintendo? I doubt even MS could achieve that. Nintendo have always posted a profit, never a loss, in their entire history. And those profits are at an all-time high. I think Nintendo would laugh in their face, before promptly slapping them round the face with a wet trout for even suggesting such an acquisition.
On another note, with all the profit they make, who thinks that EA or Activision/Blizzard will end up trying to enter the console hardware market? *Imagines an EA console* *Imagines yearly SKU updates* *Shudders*
MS wanted to make as much money as Sony had out of the PS2 as that was a great success, Nintendo on the other hand were maybe not as successful as they once were, so MS focus on the players doing well and try to compete with them.
It would be like saying CVG have redesigned their site to make it more IGN or 1UP, or do you want to make it more Gamespot?
Moore is a tit. Why don't Microsoft just decide on what market they want, design a product that appeals to that market and go for it. The original Xbox was a gem of a console. Now it seems they're targeting the Wii market but as the PS3 becomes more successful will they change direction again?
Maybe MS should have just concerned themselves with what they wanted to achieve with the Xbox brand.
I found the original Xbox to be far more enjoyable than the 360, in terms of diversity. What happened to games like JSR? And now I think that MS have lost their way in trying to focus on what Ninty and Sony are doing, rather than finding a niche for themselves.
MS strategy as follows:
Throw money at as many people as possible.
I wish they would concentrate more on in-house titles, like Ninty and Sony have done for years. It's more exciting in the 'long-term' - a word that MS haven't quite got the grasp of.
Maybe MS should have just concerned themselves with what they wanted to achieve with the Xbox brand.
I found the original Xbox to be far more enjoyable than the 360, in terms of diversity. What happened to games like JSR? And now I think that MS have lost their way in trying to focus on what Ninty and Sony are doing, rather than finding a niche for themselves.
MS strategy as follows:
Throw money at as many people as possible.
I wish they would concentrate more on in-house titles, like Ninty and Sony have done for years. It's more exciting in the 'long-term' - a word that MS haven't quite got the grasp of.
If they do indeed 'throw money at as many people as possible' and that increases the enjoyment that a player can get from their machine, who is really losing out?
The only difference I can see between the 360 & PS3 is Blu Ray, Nintendo thats a whole different ball game but even they must be amazed by the numbers they are crunching. They are all looking at each other to see what works and then copy that to their own model. They are all winners and losers in this game, the only ones that really win are us, we get the best of both worlds and can choose the route we want to go down.
I want Apple in the mix. That would really stir up some sh*t.
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I think the reason Microsoft also focused on Sony is because both companies have more or less the same type of machines, as in uber powerful ones.
While in Microsoft's opinion Ninty where doing some quirky bullcrap so Microsoft ignored them and battled Sony. Meanwhile Ninty kicked both their asses, so now Microsoft have decided to steal Ninty's ideas lol, and are wasting their time on games that the hardcore gamers, like me, originally bought the console for.
I think that's an incredibely stupid move by Microsoft.
I want Apple in the mix. That would really stir up some sh*t.
Dear god no. Can you imagine? An attractive, but rather dull and minimalist design (ipod) hiding crap performance and a poor interface (ipod, iphone, imac), and sold for around 300 quid more than it should be (iphone, ipod, imac) just because they want to position it as a fashion accessory with the letter "i" in front of its name (ipod, iphone, imac).
I found the original Xbox to be far more enjoyable than the 360, in terms of diversity. What happened to games like JSR? And now I think that MS have lost their way in trying to focus on what Ninty and Sony are doing, rather than finding a niche for themselves.
i think the xbox profited from the fall out of the dreamcast as the games from that seemed to go to the xbox, PGR would be another example. JSR was published by SEGA so MS has nothing to do it, if anything it is up to the software makers to pull their fingers out.
if the games coming out just before xmas are not good, this year will be pretty poor across the board in my eyes, and thats no fault of the hardware makers.
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I'm sorry, but there are no winners and losers until the race has finished. Sony had a plan (10 year) and they have the balls to stick with it. Nintendo had a plan (casual) and had the balls to stick with it. Ms seems to change its spots every day. One minute the 360 wants to be the hardcore shooter console of choice - then it's trying to wow Japan with loads of similar RPG's - then it wants to be casual with the 'Mii-too's'. Fookin' make your mind up MS!
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I'm sorry, but there are no winners and losers until the race has finished. Sony had a plan (10 year) and they have the balls to stick with it. Nintendo had a plan (casual) and had the balls to stick with it. Ms seems to change its spots every day. One minute the 360 wants to be the hardcore shooter console of choice - then it's trying to wow Japan with loads of similar RPG's - then it wants to be casual with the 'Mii-too's'. Fookin' make your mind up MS!
Come on Mark. Dont be so blinkered, what do you mean by '10 year cycle'? Do you honestly believe that Sony will not release another console until 2016 or something. I dont think that any manufacturer has done brilliant this time around they have all failed to some degree but to say MS are the ones who are trying to copy the others solely would in my opion would be wrong.
Do you think Sony and Nintendo would be pushing their online services if Live wasnt so popular, they all steal from each other only some do it better than others.
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I'm sorry, but there are no winners and losers until the race has finished. Sony had a plan (10 year) and they have the balls to stick with it. Nintendo had a plan (casual) and had the balls to stick with it. Ms seems to change its spots every day. One minute the 360 wants to be the hardcore shooter console of choice - then it's trying to wow Japan with loads of similar RPG's - then it wants to be casual with the 'Mii-too's'. Fookin' make your mind up MS!
Maybe their plan was to be mercurial and keep the others guessing...
Being in the console business seems to be like being in power in the UK - you do your best to get everyone to like you in the first terms, the second term comes around and its all plain sailing then you f**k it all up horribly in the third term.
I want Apple in the mix. That would really stir up some sh*t.
Dear god no. Can you imagine? An attractive, but rather dull and minimalist design (ipod) hiding crap performance and a poor interface (ipod, iphone, imac), and sold for around 300 quid more than it should be (iphone, ipod, imac) just because they want to position it as a fashion accessory with the letter "i" in front of its name (ipod, iphone, imac).
i think if anyone else is going to jump into the console bussiness it is apple
I agree. Although I hope to god they don't. Then we will really see what brand power will do in gaming, because Apple are seen as being way 'cooler' than MS, Sony or Nintendo. And people also seem to forget that Apple (more so than with any of the console manufacturers) are a huge company after your money, not some ethical organisation with your interests and entertainment at heart!
I got an iphone recently as it was good for work, good data bundle etc and loads of space (for a phone). I felt empty inside and as snazzy a product as it is, I'm not sure it makes up for the part of me that died as soon as I signed that contract!
Maybe when downloading becomes the norm, we will see the iconsole and people spending their money on igames but I can't see it happening yet.
I agree. Although I hope to god they don't. Then we will really see what brand power will do in gaming, because Apple are seen as being way 'cooler' than MS, Sony or Nintendo.
They are? I always though they were the Satanic mega corp that makes the iPod...
Still, they made the little 'i' popular again - good for Sesame Street fans
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I'm sorry, but there are no winners and losers until the race has finished. Sony had a plan (10 year) and they have the balls to stick with it. Nintendo had a plan (casual) and had the balls to stick with it. Ms seems to change its spots every day. One minute the 360 wants to be the hardcore shooter console of choice - then it's trying to wow Japan with loads of similar RPG's - then it wants to be casual with the 'Mii-too's'. Fookin' make your mind up MS!
Come on Mark. Dont be so blinkered, what do you mean by '10 year cycle'? Do you honestly believe that Sony will not release another console until 2016 or something. I dont think that any manufacturer has done brilliant this time around they have all failed to some degree but to say MS are the ones who are trying to copy the others solely would in my opion would be wrong.
Do you think Sony and Nintendo would be pushing their online services if Live wasnt so popular, they all steal from each other only some do it better than others.
They are all as bad as each other.
Question: How long has the Ps2 been selling for and releasing new games?
Answer: 8 years and running - 2000 to 2008. Therefor, Sony's 10 year strategy is believable, because even when the PS4 is released, the PS3 will still be supported by Sony. And that is why I have more faith in Sony than MS.
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I'm sorry, but there are no winners and losers until the race has finished. Sony had a plan (10 year) and they have the balls to stick with it. Nintendo had a plan (casual) and had the balls to stick with it. Ms seems to change its spots every day. One minute the 360 wants to be the hardcore shooter console of choice - then it's trying to wow Japan with loads of similar RPG's - then it wants to be casual with the 'Mii-too's'. Fookin' make your mind up MS!
Come on Mark. Dont be so blinkered, what do you mean by '10 year cycle'? Do you honestly believe that Sony will not release another console until 2016 or something. I dont think that any manufacturer has done brilliant this time around they have all failed to some degree but to say MS are the ones who are trying to copy the others solely would in my opion would be wrong.
Do you think Sony and Nintendo would be pushing their online services if Live wasnt so popular, they all steal from each other only some do it better than others.
They are all as bad as each other.
Question: How long has the Ps2 been selling for and releasing new games?
Answer: 8 years and running - 2000 to 2008. Therefor, Sony's 10 year strategy is believable, because even when the PS4 is released, the PS3 will still be supported by Sony. And that is why I have more faith in Sony than MS.
By that logic the PS3 would have to sell over 120 million units, it might but I doubt it.
If Microsoft really wanted to deliver a killer blow to Sony they would have had a HD-DVD drive as standard in all Xboxs from release. The profit margin for each Blu-ray film sold is greater than the profit margin for PS3 games. Without that extra revenue Sony would have been in serious difficulties with the PS3.
So basically Microsoft set their eyes on the top dog, dominated them with ease, and now rule the console market with an iron fist.
That's right isnt it?
no it is not
Um, you know it is!
The evidence is quite blatant.
a) MS set their eyes on Sony: words straight from the mouth of MS.
b) ...and dominated them with ease, now ruling with an iron fist: This you can't deny either. There was even a story a few weeks back about the 360 outselling the PS3 in Japan.
Not that I care, mind you. Just telling a young child how things are!
I agree. Although I hope to god they don't. Then we will really see what brand power will do in gaming, because Apple are seen as being way 'cooler' than MS, Sony or Nintendo.
They are? I always though they were the Satanic mega corp that makes the iPod...
Still, they made the little 'i' popular again - good for Sesame Street fans
Oh they are definitely the satanic mega core... ! However they are definitely seen as cool, especially to the sheep amongst purchasers.
I went to advise an older (60ish) neighbour on getting a new laptop and she ended up buying an ibook for just less than a grand which is not powerful but is white, small and 'adorable' apparently. They don't even know how to use a Mac, only want to use email, surf and type letters.
People will buy Apple products based solely on the brand name. Especially as you know the iconsole will seemlessly interact with appletv, itunes, ipod, iphone, ijklmnop etc
Easy enough to see why they concentrated on Sony rather than Nintendo... at the time the Nintendo console was a joke they could hardly give away, why would they have wanted to imitate that?
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I'm sorry, but there are no winners and losers until the race has finished. Sony had a plan (10 year) and they have the balls to stick with it. Nintendo had a plan (casual) and had the balls to stick with it. Ms seems to change its spots every day. One minute the 360 wants to be the hardcore shooter console of choice - then it's trying to wow Japan with loads of similar RPG's - then it wants to be casual with the 'Mii-too's'. Fookin' make your mind up MS!
Come on Mark. Dont be so blinkered, what do you mean by '10 year cycle'? Do you honestly believe that Sony will not release another console until 2016 or something. I dont think that any manufacturer has done brilliant this time around they have all failed to some degree but to say MS are the ones who are trying to copy the others solely would in my opion would be wrong.
Do you think Sony and Nintendo would be pushing their online services if Live wasnt so popular, they all steal from each other only some do it better than others.
They are all as bad as each other.
Question: How long has the Ps2 been selling for and releasing new games?
Answer: 8 years and running - 2000 to 2008. Therefor, Sony's 10 year strategy is believable, because even when the PS4 is released, the PS3 will still be supported by Sony. And that is why I have more faith in Sony than MS.
By that logic the PS3 would have to sell over 120 million units, it might but I doubt it.
When I first played the PS2 (Bouncer! Eeek!), I would have never believed that the PS2 would have sold so many!
I reckon that when the PS3 hits the sub Ł200 (next xmas, perhaps?) threshold, the sales will explode. More people will have HDTV and more people will want to watch Blu-rays. If that was the case, Sony's plan would be pretty much fulfilled.
By rights, the 360 price-cut should double the sales of the 360. The 360 really needs to pick up steam to be a serious threat to Sony.
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I'm sorry, but there are no winners and losers until the race has finished. Sony had a plan (10 year) and they have the balls to stick with it. Nintendo had a plan (casual) and had the balls to stick with it. Ms seems to change its spots every day. One minute the 360 wants to be the hardcore shooter console of choice - then it's trying to wow Japan with loads of similar RPG's - then it wants to be casual with the 'Mii-too's'. Fookin' make your mind up MS!
Come on Mark. Dont be so blinkered, what do you mean by '10 year cycle'? Do you honestly believe that Sony will not release another console until 2016 or something. I dont think that any manufacturer has done brilliant this time around they have all failed to some degree but to say MS are the ones who are trying to copy the others solely would in my opion would be wrong.
Do you think Sony and Nintendo would be pushing their online services if Live wasnt so popular, they all steal from each other only some do it better than others.
They are all as bad as each other.
Question: How long has the Ps2 been selling for and releasing new games?
Answer: 8 years and running - 2000 to 2008. Therefor, Sony's 10 year strategy is believable, because even when the PS4 is released, the PS3 will still be supported by Sony. And that is why I have more faith in Sony than MS.
By that logic the PS3 would have to sell over 120 million units, it might but I doubt it.
When I first played the PS2 (Bouncer! Eeek!), I would have never believed that the PS2 would have sold so many!
I reckon that when the PS3 hits the sub Ł200 (next xmas, perhaps?) threshold, the sales will explode. More people will have HDTV and more people will want to watch Blu-rays. If that was the case, Sony's plan would be pretty much fulfilled.
By rights, the 360 price-cut should double the sales of the 360. The 360 really needs to pick up steam to be a serious threat to Sony.
You might be right Mark. The PS3 may explode when HDTV's really take off but I dont think that Blu Ray will do for the PS3 as DVD did for the PS2, I could be wrong and the PS3 may get those huge numbers but I dont think that any of the 3 will sell over 100 million.
If Apple came into it though? Well theres a very loyal and huge customer base that could potentially sell millions as well. Horses for Courses though.
Question: How long has the Ps2 been selling for and releasing new games?
Answer: 8 years and running - 2000 to 2008. Therefor, Sony's 10 year strategy is believable, because even when the PS4 is released, the PS3 will still be supported by Sony. And that is why I have more faith in Sony than MS.
To be fair though Mark, you are basing that on one anomoly - for that is what the PS2 is. It wasn't by design that Sony found it had a 10 year life span, it was pure fluke.
They may plan for the PS3 to have a 10 year life span this time round, but history may think otherwise. And what are they going to do if that happens, sit dead in the water, or release a whole new console and leave the PS3 be, to die gracefully?
Just to comment on the PS3 10 year plan, it'll most likely sell for that long long but it'll be as a cheap Blu-Ray player, not as a video game console. This gen has 2, maybe 3 years left tops, and by that time I expect there to be no changes in the console standings; #1 - Wii #2 - 360 #3 - PS3
Ultimately PS3 will be viewed as a failure, even if it does go on to sell for another 5 years. Even the most blind fanboys can't deny that. Hopefully Sony come out and bigger and stronger next gen as competition benefits us; the gamers.
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I'm sorry, but there are no winners and losers until the race has finished. Sony had a plan (10 year) and they have the balls to stick with it. Nintendo had a plan (casual) and had the balls to stick with it. Ms seems to change its spots every day. One minute the 360 wants to be the hardcore shooter console of choice - then it's trying to wow Japan with loads of similar RPG's - then it wants to be casual with the 'Mii-too's'. Fookin' make your mind up MS!
Why does it bother you what ms changes?? they are in it for the money like sony and nintendo not because they have a ten year plan or because they wanted to do something different with a wavey joystick!! get over the fact it is ms they can throw money at how they want to gain business THATS WHAT THEY DO if you dont want a xbox then dont hold grudges against other gamers that do or the company that makes them . yes sony has a ten year plan I know i have a ps3 and im waiting for the plan to kick in at least ms are getting stuff out the door without making promises then delaying again ssshhh Ten Years!!!!!!
Just to comment on the PS3 10 year plan, it'll most likely sell for that long long but it'll be as a cheap Blu-Ray player, not as a video game console.
I've seen this mistake so many times in these forums. If you believe the PS3 is a cheap Blu-ray player then you have no concept of money and are a moron. You can pick a good quality Blu-ray player up for a about Ł150 now. If you can't even get that simple fact into your head why should anyone give your opinion any weight?
When I first played the PS2 (Bouncer! Eeek!), I would have never believed that the PS2 would have sold so many!
I reckon that when the PS3 hits the sub Ł200 (next xmas, perhaps?) threshold, the sales will explode. More people will have HDTV and more people will want to watch Blu-rays. If that was the case, Sony's plan would be pretty much fulfilled.
By rights, the 360 price-cut should double the sales of the 360. The 360 really needs to pick up steam to be a serious threat to Sony.
I god I hate this meme.
Sorry to have to break this to you, but when ps3 has hit Ł200 price point, there isn't going to be any "sales explosion". Well, not one big enough to be able to sustain though out the PS3 life cycle. It's going to be no different from the 360 currently lowering it's prices. Perceptions have already been made, winners and losers was decided the moment they all launched. The best Sony can hope for now is a VERY close second place.
The sooner people realize this, the better for everyone.
Just to comment on the PS3 10 year plan, it'll most likely sell for that long long but it'll be as a cheap Blu-Ray player, not as a video game console.
I've seen this mistake so many times in these forums. If you believe the PS3 is a cheap Blu-ray player then you have no concept of money and are a moron. You can pick a good quality Blu-ray player up for a about Ł150 now. If you can't even get that simple fact into your head why should anyone give your opinion any weight?
Not that I agree with him (That's a very extreme view he's pointing out), but he's probably looking at it the same way people are buying a wiimote with a Ł10 party game, rather than just a wiimote.
Just to comment on the PS3 10 year plan, it'll most likely sell for that long long but it'll be as a cheap Blu-Ray player, not as a video game console. This gen has 2, maybe 3 years left tops, and by that time I expect there to be no changes in the console standings; #1 - Wii #2 - 360 #3 - PS3
Ultimately PS3 will be viewed as a failure, even if it does go on to sell for another 5 years. Even the most blind fanboys can't deny that. Hopefully Sony come out and bigger and stronger next gen as competition benefits us; the gamers.
Wha-? I agree with most of your views there, but 2 or 3 years left? That's bloody ridiculous! What would be the point of buying a new console if it's only out for a few years? And what enormous improvement have all the big companies stumbled upon that'd warrant new consoles in a couple of years?
Wha-? I agree with most of your views there, but 2 or 3 years left? That's bloody ridiculous! What would be the point of buying a new console if it's only out for a few years? And what enormous improvement have all the big companies stumbled upon that'd warrant new consoles in a couple of years?
There's a new generation of consoles every 5/6 years tops. It's been this way for awhile.
Wha-? I agree with most of your views there, but 2 or 3 years left? That's bloody ridiculous! What would be the point of buying a new console if it's only out for a few years? And what enormous improvement have all the big companies stumbled upon that'd warrant new consoles in a couple of years?
There's a new generation of consoles every 5/6 years tops. It's been this way for awhile.
To be honest I don't think their strategy will have changed one bit since then. Wii's just gone off and done it's own thing. In one sense it's not a tradtional console but a toy. If you look at it like that then 360 is achieving its goal of being the top console for gamers this gen and for that you have to credit MS as I doubt anyone would have seen Sony in last place after the huge success they had with PS1 and PS2.
I'm sorry, but there are no winners and losers until the race has finished. Sony had a plan (10 year) and they have the balls to stick with it. Nintendo had a plan (casual) and had the balls to stick with it. Ms seems to change its spots every day. One minute the 360 wants to be the hardcore shooter console of choice - then it's trying to wow Japan with loads of similar RPG's - then it wants to be casual with the 'Mii-too's'. Fookin' make your mind up MS!
Get over it mark your hatred for ms is silly they all want you for money (ms ,Sony and ninty) so they will do whatever to get it
So basically Microsoft set their eyes on the top dog, dominated them with ease, and now rule the console market with an iron fist.
That's right isnt it?
no it is not
Um, you know it is!
The evidence is quite blatant.
a) MS set their eyes on Sony: words straight from the mouth of MS.
b) ...and dominated them with ease, now ruling with an iron fist: This you can't deny either. There was even a story a few weeks back about the 360 outselling the PS3 in Japan.
Not that I care, mind you. Just telling a young child how things are!
no the wii is dominating the console market and the 360 is not outselling the ps3 in japan if you had looked at the latest figures you would have known that boy.
Ok, Einstein, now if you look at my post it says something to the effect of a story a few weeks back.
So obviously I wasn't talking about the latest sales figures.
In any case it is inevitable that Gears will crush the PS3 like an eggshell and microsoft know this.
Had it escaped you that Gears of War is an anagram of both War of Rages and War for Ages. This is an allusion to the continuing battle of fanboys.
However, it is also an anagram of A Fear Grows and this I believe is a reference to the growing fear of Sony slaves like yourself as you slowly start to recognise the face of the behemoth that will tear the PS3 a new one.
Tear it like a chainsaw through the head of a Theron Guard!
So basically Microsoft set their eyes on the top dog, dominated them with ease, and now rule the console market with an iron fist.
That's right isnt it?
no it is not
Um, you know it is!
The evidence is quite blatant.
a) MS set their eyes on Sony: words straight from the mouth of MS.
b) ...and dominated them with ease, now ruling with an iron fist: This you can't deny either. There was even a story a few weeks back about the 360 outselling the PS3 in Japan.
Not that I care, mind you. Just telling a young child how things are!
no the wii is dominating the console market and the 360 is not outselling the ps3 in japan if you had looked at the latest figures you would have known that boy.
Ok, Einstein, now if you look at my post it says something to the effect of a story a few weeks back.
So obviously I wasn't talking about the latest sales figures.
In any case it is inevitable that Gears will crush the PS3 like an eggshell and microsoft know this.
Had it escaped you that Gears of War is an anagram of both War of Rages and War for Ages. This is an allusion to the continuing battle of fanboys.
However, it is also an anagram of A Fear Grows and this I believe is a reference to the growing fear of Sony slaves like yourself as you slowly start to recognise the face of the behemoth that will tear the PS3 a new one.
Tear it like a chainsaw through the head of a Theron Guard!
LMFAO You've got too much time on your hands thinking up ridiculous anagrams for 'gears of war' Shmuppet eh??? drop the whisper
Lol, I'm confused. If you're suggesting that I have another identity on here you would be mistaken good sir!
bloody hell man..im calling you a 'muppet' hence me saying drop the 'sh' i.e whisper to reveal what you are and with me having to constantly explain this to you, it only validates my original statement...bloody kids eh
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