In probably one of the worst console piracy cases of the year, epic RPG Fallout 3 has leaked onto the internet... just a few days after going gold.
Copies of the Bethesda role-player are now doing the rounds on popular torrent sites across the web, reports games blog Kotaku.
Apparently the offending file weighs in at 6.52GB and is actually the Xbox 360 version of the game, so pirates will have to heavily modify their console to play it. We doubt that'll comes as much consolation to Bethesda, though.
The company is yet to release an official statement on the issue.
Being this close to completion suggests that the leaked game has spurred from press review code, rather than an actual on-shelf retail copy, but so far none of those fancy pirate groups have admitted to torrenting the title.
One torrent user said that the Fallout 3 leak was "like an early Christmas gift". We can only hope the Microsoft piracy squad bricks his console.
Fallout 3, the proper version, is out on PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 on October 31.
If the pirated copy was the PC version then I'm sure it would've been a far bigger deal, but hopefully as there aren't anywhere near as many modded 360's, this won't affect sales to a massive degree.
The only pirated games you shouldn't feel guilty about downloading are the half bottomd cash-ins and annually updated (usually sports) games. This is not one of them!
However it just goes to show. Piracy is a major issue across platforms, and dicks like cliff Belinski are wrong to just dismiss Pc as the only platform with problems.
The only pirated games you shouldn't feel guilty about downloading are the half bottomd cash-ins and annually updated (usually sports) games. This is not one of them!
But it's the half bottomd cash-ins you get sued over
And why anyone downloads them in the first place is anyone's guess
Maybe it's to try and snare the biggest crackers around. An early "leak" and it gets snapped up by whoever the big names are, and you track the IPs of everyone touching the ISO. Could actually work out as a decent sting.
However it just goes to show. Piracy is a major issue across platforms, and dicks like cliff Belinski are wrong to just dismiss Pc as the only platform with problems.
Indeed. Piracy is an excuse that publishers/developers like to use for various bogus practices they can get away with on PC, such as delaying releases to maximise console-version sales. Nevermind the fact that piracy is a ubiquitous 'problem' across all formats, pre-owned sales are just as 'damaging' to the publishers as any amount of piracy on the PC.But of course they don't have any moral high-ground to start moaning about that.
Just when everybody has been talking about DRM and how piracy on the PC is a problem, look what version of what is one of this year's biggest titles gets leaked and pirated.
However it just goes to show. Piracy is a major issue across platforms, and dicks like cliff Belinski are wrong to just dismiss Pc as the only platform with problems.
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
This is p**s poor though. I bet Bethseda are fuming.
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
i know i'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this but i have a feeling that 99% would get this if it worked on thier machines.
I wouldn't blame anyone with a modded xbox that did. A chance to play potentially one of the best games of not only this year, but generation of machines.
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
Do you have any figures to back that claim up?
You dont really need any. Its common knowledge that piracy on Pc had always been bigger. But down my local market are stalls modifying x-box to play pirated games and selling them too.
You dont really need any. Its common knowledge that piracy on Pc had always been bigger. But down my local market are stalls modifying x-box to play pirated games and selling them too.
I doubt it. How many 360s are there in the world? And how many PCs?
Percentage wise, I bet it's pretty similar. Of course, I don't have any figures, it's just an educated guess.
HHmmmm one of the people on my 360's friends list has just sent me a message saying he's playing Fallout3 and after looking he's already got 2 of the achievements. wonder if he's modded his 360 and they've found a way to bypass the live security that used to kick you from it? he does say that its f**kin amazing though. its s**te we have to wait for it to be released, i want it now
Modding your 360 is incredibly easy. There's even video's showing you how to do it. You can also bypass the LIVE security. However, I wouldn't condone such methods as your harming the industry as a whole. I for one have got my pre-order down for this game and don't mind waiting a few weeks to finally play it. Until then I shall spend my time playing Pro Evo and Fable 2.
after bricking one of my PS2's to play imports i wouldn't get a machine modded again. mind you the guy that i mentioned does work on the oil-rigs so it could be a possibility that he's just managed to get an early copy. he's still a jammy bastard though
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
Do you have any figures to back that claim up?
Nope, that's why I say 'bet'. And screw percentages - I bet game devs don't care that the same percentage of Xbox gamers are pirating as PC gamers. If there are 100 million more PCs out there than Xboxs, that percentage means jack and sh*t.
Apparently Dead Space and Fable 2 are out on torrents as well. I cannot bloody stand piracy it seems people don't understand the damage it does to the industry as a whole.
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
Do you have any figures to back that claim up?
Nope, that's why I say 'bet'. And screw percentages - I bet game devs don't care that the same percentage of Xbox gamers are pirating as PC gamers. If there are 100 million more PCs out there than Xboxes, that percentage means jack and sh*t.
Yes, that's right. Percentages don't make sense. So you reckon that, say, there are 1000 XBoxes and 50% of games are pirated (that's 500 legit games sold, I'll save you the calculator trouble) and there are (quoting you figures) 100,001,000 PCs with the same PERCENTAGE of legal games (again, to save time, thats 50,000,500 games), you state that this means "jack and shiit"?
Well, fair enough. Most people will beg to disagree.
EDIT: Just thought I'd offer some actual figures. 20,000,000 XBoxes sold to date. 1,000,000,000 active PCs worldwide. From that number 58% are in the developed world (and most likely have new ish hardware and access to games etc.) and 180,000,000 were replaced in the past year. This means that there are 9 times as many BRAND NEW PCs than there are XBoxes.
So what is it a contest now to see which system should shoulder more of the blame for piracy? Grow up ffs. People like Cliffy B should be bitch slapped for spreading such nonsense. Piracy is a problem across the board. Doesn't matter if it's 500 or 5000 games, each one still hurts sales and potential future products from any developer. If the report is true then The press have a part to play in this as well and must shoulder some of the responseability. This s**t leads to poorly executed nonsense like DRM.
I find it hard to justify any form of piracy, but then i find it hard to justify the industrys claims that it is damaging them as much as they claim. If revenue is being hurt sooo bad why then do i read this on the left 4 dead article. "As part of a $10 million (Ł5.9m) ad campaign for its zombie-based shooter Left 4 Dead, Valve Software managing director Gabe Newell confirmed to Edge that there will be an Xbox 360 and PC demo."
10million dollars??? on an add campaign for a game. way to cry poverty.
I find it hard to justify any form of piracy, but then i find it hard to justify the industrys claims that it is damaging them as much as they claim. If revenue is being hurt sooo bad why then do i read this on the left 4 dead article. "As part of a $10 million (Ł5.9m) ad campaign for its zombie-based shooter Left 4 Dead, Valve Software managing director Gabe Newell confirmed to Edge that there will be an Xbox 360 and PC demo."
10million dollars??? on an add campaign for a game. way to cry poverty.
Valve games connect through steam and suffer far less than other studios games from piracy.
Also, I'm sorry to break this to you, but $10m is nothing. To me (or you?)its a s**t load, but it wouldn't pay for the annual running costs of Roman Abrovovich(sp?) ship
after bricking one of my PS2's to play imports i wouldn't get a machine modded again. mind you the guy that i mentioned does work on the oil-rigs so it could be a possibility that he's just managed to get an early copy. he's still a jammy bastard though
I used an Action Replay cartridge and disk swapping to play imports on my PS1... got sick of waiting months and months for the PAL releases and then seeing them run slower with added big black borders.
I always buy legal games I get alot of enjoyment from them so I dont mind supporting the industry.
The last game I bought from a pirate was for the C64 and that was because there were no shop selling games in my town and when I mail ordered games from the UK the firm went into liquidation and I never got my games. I was also about 11 and had very little cash!
At least ps3 seems to be piracy free still (unless there something i dont know about) only a matter of time though no doubt
PS3s are also region free so there isnt as much need to be a pirate (Yarr me hearty!!) as you can buy imports and play them freely. One of the best decisions made by Sony in a swarm of bad decisions.
However it just goes to show. Piracy is a major issue across platforms, and dicks like cliff Belinski are wrong to just dismiss Pc as the only platform with problems.
Indeed. Piracy is an excuse that publishers/developers like to use for various bogus practices they can get away with on PC, such as delaying releases to maximise console-version sales. Nevermind the fact that piracy is a ubiquitous 'problem' across all formats, pre-owned sales are just as 'damaging' to the publishers as any amount of piracy on the PC.But of course they don't have any moral high-ground to start moaning about that.
The only pirated games you shouldn't feel guilty about downloading are the half bottomd cash-ins and annually updated (usually sports) games. This is not one of them!
But it's the half bottomd cash-ins you get sued over
And why anyone downloads them in the first place is anyone's guess
oooooh i always presumed it was to play them and pass them on but your guess is as good as mine seriously though piracy is a major problem ,one exaserbated (spelling) by borderline maulware like DRM and starforce who treat customers like little better then theives however they say piracy costs millions but truthfully i think only a handfull of the people who download torrents ever had any ambition of buying the game in the first place. however this will doubtlessley (spelling again) hurt berthesda and i don`t care i`m still buying a ligt copy as should you all
At least ps3 seems to be piracy free still (unless there something i dont know about) only a matter of time though no doubt
PS3s are also region free so there isnt as much need to be a pirate (Yarr me hearty!!) as you can buy imports and play them freely. One of the best decisions made by Sony in a swarm of bad decisions.
You`re and idiot it`s yarr me harties GOD FRICKING IDOT!!!!!!!!!! that aside why can`t these pirates go out with honor in the middle of a massive gunfight instead they give up and except the fines .Weak
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
Do you have any figures to back that claim up?
Nope, that's why I say 'bet'.
Without solid figures your "bets" are worth nothing.
And screw percentages - I bet game devs don't care that the same percentage of Xbox gamers are pirating as PC gamers. If there are 100 million more PCs out there than Xboxs, that percentage means jack and sh*t.
its only xbox 360 version that leaked. u won be able to emulate it on your pc. I bet quite a lot of fans got illegal version and bought xbox to play the game, which cost more than game itself after few weeks. Microsoft got boost for profits, fallout developer got free scandal advertising space for game, and will sell more copies. Everyone happy
Yes, that's right. Percentages don't make sense. So you reckon that, say, there are 1000 XBoxes and 50% of games are pirated (that's 500 legit games sold, I'll save you the calculator trouble) and there are (quoting you figures) 100,001,000 PCs with the same PERCENTAGE of legal games (again, to save time, thats 50,000,500 games), you state that this means "jack and shiit"?
Well, fair enough. Most people will beg to disagree.
EDIT: Just thought I'd offer some actual figures. 20,000,000 XBoxes sold to date. 1,000,000,000 active PCs worldwide. From that number 58% are in the developed world (and most likely have new ish hardware and access to games etc.) and 180,000,000 were replaced in the past year. This means that there are 9 times as many BRAND NEW PCs than there are XBoxes.
I'm not sure if you're suggesting whether, in this scenario, it would be worse for Xboxs devs, or PC devs. However, I've no doubt that if 50mil copies of a game is pirated to PC, yet, percentage-wise, this is the same as the Xbox pirates (500 copies), then, yes, percentage would mean jack and sh*t to these devs and publishers.
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
Do you have any figures to back that claim up?
Nope, that's why I say 'bet'.
Without solid figures your "bets" are worth nothing.
I see - I'm wrong because I don't supply figures to prove it, but you're right because you don't....
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
Do you have any figures to back that claim up?
Nope, that's why I say 'bet'.
Without solid figures your "bets" are worth nothing.
I see - I'm wrong because I don't supply figures to prove it, but you're right because you don't....
I don't know where you live, but where I'm from the burden of proof is on the accuser, try again.
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
Do you have any figures to back that claim up?
Nope, that's why I say 'bet'.
Without solid figures your "bets" are worth nothing.
I see - I'm wrong because I don't supply figures to prove it, but you're right because you don't....
I don't know where you live, but where I'm from the burden of proof is on the accuser, try again.
Where I live arguing over something that is impossible to prove either way is considered a waste of time.
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
Do you have any figures to back that claim up?
Nope, that's why I say 'bet'.
Without solid figures your "bets" are worth nothing.
I see - I'm wrong because I don't supply figures to prove it, but you're right because you don't....
I don't know where you live, but where I'm from the burden of proof is on the accuser, try again.
Where I live arguing over something that is impossible to prove either way is considered a waste of time.
Hehe yeah, which makes this whole thread a waste of time really.
While what you say is true, you have to ackowledge that piracy on the PC is FAR worse than it is on any of the consoles. Even when the Playstation piracy was at it's height, I STILL bet PC piracy was/is worse.
Do you have any figures to back that claim up?
Nope, that's why I say 'bet'.
Without solid figures your "bets" are worth nothing.
I see - I'm wrong because I don't supply figures to prove it, but you're right because you don't....
I don't know where you live, but where I'm from the burden of proof is on the accuser, try again.
Where I live arguing over something that is impossible to prove either way is considered a waste of time.
Hehe yeah, which makes this whole thread a waste of time really.
Not the whole thread, my posts are never a waste of time
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its s**te we have to wait for it to be released, i want it now
