Bungie has warned Halo 3 players not to install Halo 3 to hard disk on the New Xbox Experience, as it actually makes the game load slower.
The new feature is supposed to benefit installed games with quicker load times and less noise coming from the Xbox 360 itself, as it doesn't have to spin the disc.
But as Bungie explains, Halo 3 doesn't actually benefit from being installed due to a technical problem.
"Please be aware that installing Halo 3 to your HDD will actually result in longer load times and thus a less optimal experience than if you run the game from the disc drive," the company said on its website.
"This happens due to the way Halo 3 already uses a HDD to cache data and once you do an install, you are copying between two different areas of the same drive as you are loading a map," it explains.
"If you just plan to play campaign or offline content, you may feel that the tradeoff is worth it in order to have a slightly quieter Xbox 360 and reduced impact to your disc drive. However, if you play Halo 3 online, please be aware that increased map loading times can have a negative impact to everyone's experience.
"In some cases, it could take considerably longer to load multiplayer maps, meaning that everyone you are matched with is also stuck waiting for your maps to load. If people start to lose patience, you then have scenarios of players leaving parties and aborting matching because they don't want to wait. This adds to the problem, creating a cycle where more and more people have a harder time getting into the games they want to play.
"To avoid this negative situation, we are advising that Halo 3 players do not install the game to their HDD."
Clever bunjie. Not only a great game, but now a space saving game.
Good thing too considering i just installed both discs of last remnant.
Looks like installing all the discs of multi disc games means you don't have to swap between them anymore.
I am currently playing the beginning of last remnant with disc 2 in the drive. and its working fine.
This in theory could be a good way for friends strapped for cash to play big games on the cheap. so long as you have the disc space. just keep a disc each and away you go.
what a f**k up. Microsoft's biggest franchise doesn't work with the new experience.
Great, so now even if i take Halo off the HDD there are probably loads out there that don't know about the problem thus ensuring a f**ked up matchmaking.
Looks like installing all the discs of multi disc games means you don't have to swap between them anymore.
This shouldn't be possible as you still need the disc in the drive to fire up the game.
what a f**k up. Microsoft's biggest franchise doesn't work with the new experience.
Great, so now even if i take Halo off the HDD there are probably loads out there that don't know about the problem thus ensuring a f**ked up matchmaking.
Well done, I take my hat off to you. Plebs
Wow, you really are emotional about this, aren't you? Is it really that big of a deal?
Besides which I have read that Bungie are looking into a patch of somesort to either improve this or to prevent you from installing it. If you read into it you'll see that there's a scratch area on the HDD that developers can use for whatever they want, as a result it was always likely that the odd couple of games would not benefit depending on how they were coded.
I'm very interested in understanding what you want from MS/Bungie. Would you rather the NXE didn't have this feature at all for the benefit of one game?
This in theory could be a good way for friends strapped for cash to play big games on the cheap. so long as you have the disc space. just keep a disc each and away you go.
Right so you're calling people who trade in games etc 'spoilt bastards' in one thread and saying it's worse than piracy then talking about strapped cashed friends playing games on the cheap my installing the same game on multiple consoles.
Looks like installing all the discs of multi disc games means you don't have to swap between them anymore.
This shouldn't be possible as you still need the disc in the drive to fire up the game.
what a f**k up. Microsoft's biggest franchise doesn't work with the new experience.
Great, so now even if i take Halo off the HDD there are probably loads out there that don't know about the problem thus ensuring a f**ked up matchmaking.
Well done, I take my hat off to you. Plebs
Wow, you really are emotional about this, aren't you? Is it really that big of a deal?
Besides which I have read that Bungie are looking into a patch of somesort to either improve this or to prevent you from installing it. If you read into it you'll see that there's a scratch area on the HDD that developers can use for whatever they want, as a result it was always likely that the odd couple of games would not benefit depending on how they were coded.
I'm very interested in understanding what you want from MS/Bungie. Would you rather the NXE didn't have this feature at all for the benefit of one game?
i'd say so. their big new "experience" and their biggest game, halo 3, the game that probably most people would have wanted on their HDD. but it makes it slower.
that is a big f**k up. the HDD installs were the most important feature for the update.
This shouldn't be possible as you still need the disc in the drive to fire up the game.
But you do. Maybe i didn't explain myself clearly enough.
It doesn't matter what disc you use to boot the game up. So long as you have all of the content on the hard drive.
The game is just in the drive so the console can read its authentication code.
As i said i've started playing last remanat form the beginning using the 2nd disc.
In responce to voodoo. read my responce to your goodself on the other thread. i know your therapist has already told you this a thousand times. but not everybody is out to get you!!!
Looks like installing all the discs of multi disc games means you don't have to swap between them anymore.
This shouldn't be possible as you still need the disc in the drive to fire up the game.
what a f**k up. Microsoft's biggest franchise doesn't work with the new experience.
Great, so now even if i take Halo off the HDD there are probably loads out there that don't know about the problem thus ensuring a f**ked up matchmaking.
Well done, I take my hat off to you. Plebs
Wow, you really are emotional about this, aren't you? Is it really that big of a deal?
Besides which I have read that Bungie are looking into a patch of somesort to either improve this or to prevent you from installing it. If you read into it you'll see that there's a scratch area on the HDD that developers can use for whatever they want, as a result it was always likely that the odd couple of games would not benefit depending on how they were coded.
I'm very interested in understanding what you want from MS/Bungie. Would you rather the NXE didn't have this feature at all for the benefit of one game?
Emotional?? Maybe a little, but my opinion still stands. It's a balls up. Regardless of whether I uninstall it there are loads of gamers that don't frequent forums and the Bungie site that won't know the problem....thus ensuring broken matchmaking for everyone. That to me is a pretty sizeable error and one that should've been thought about. This NXE has been in the making for a long time.
Now I don't profess to know the technical ins and outs, whys and whynots and neither do a lot of people, that's why I play games on a console and not a PC...it doesn't make me an idiot, I'm just not interested in the work involved and technical jargon. I like things to work.
Looks like installing all the discs of multi disc games means you don't have to swap between them anymore.
This shouldn't be possible as you still need the disc in the drive to fire up the game.
what a f**k up. Microsoft's biggest franchise doesn't work with the new experience.
Great, so now even if i take Halo off the HDD there are probably loads out there that don't know about the problem thus ensuring a f**ked up matchmaking.
Well done, I take my hat off to you. Plebs
Wow, you really are emotional about this, aren't you? Is it really that big of a deal?
Besides which I have read that Bungie are looking into a patch of somesort to either improve this or to prevent you from installing it. If you read into it you'll see that there's a scratch area on the HDD that developers can use for whatever they want, as a result it was always likely that the odd couple of games would not benefit depending on how they were coded.
I'm very interested in understanding what you want from MS/Bungie. Would you rather the NXE didn't have this feature at all for the benefit of one game?
Emotional?? Maybe a little, but my opinion still stands. It's a balls up. Regardless of whether I uninstall it there are loads of gamers that don't frequent forums and the Bungie site that won't know the problem....thus ensuring broken matchmaking for everyone. That to me is a pretty sizeable error and one that should've been thought about. This NXE has been in the making for a long time.
Now I don't profess to know the technical ins and outs, whys and whynots and neither do a lot of people, that's why I play games on a console and not a PC...it doesn't make me an idiot, I'm just not interested in the work involved and technical jargon. I like things to work.
Have you actually played Halo since they released this update? Bungie themselves have put in a message that comes up when you load Halo 3 informing people of this issue, so in fact everyone who has the game and still plays it will be informed.
Looks like installing all the discs of multi disc games means you don't have to swap between them anymore.
This shouldn't be possible as you still need the disc in the drive to fire up the game.
what a f**k up. Microsoft's biggest franchise doesn't work with the new experience.
Great, so now even if i take Halo off the HDD there are probably loads out there that don't know about the problem thus ensuring a f**ked up matchmaking.
Well done, I take my hat off to you. Plebs
Wow, you really are emotional about this, aren't you? Is it really that big of a deal?
Besides which I have read that Bungie are looking into a patch of somesort to either improve this or to prevent you from installing it. If you read into it you'll see that there's a scratch area on the HDD that developers can use for whatever they want, as a result it was always likely that the odd couple of games would not benefit depending on how they were coded.
I'm very interested in understanding what you want from MS/Bungie. Would you rather the NXE didn't have this feature at all for the benefit of one game?
Emotional?? Maybe a little, but my opinion still stands. It's a balls up. Regardless of whether I uninstall it there are loads of gamers that don't frequent forums and the Bungie site that won't know the problem....thus ensuring broken matchmaking for everyone. That to me is a pretty sizeable error and one that should've been thought about. This NXE has been in the making for a long time.
Now I don't profess to know the technical ins and outs, whys and whynots and neither do a lot of people, that's why I play games on a console and not a PC...it doesn't make me an idiot, I'm just not interested in the work involved and technical jargon. I like things to work.
How's it a f**king balls-up?
Microsoft never stated that EVERY game created for the 360 would benefit from HD installs, so take a chill-pill.
As for the non-technical gamer and Halo3 scenario, it's pretty simple really.
* Gamer installs H3 to their hard drive, starts up game and discovers certain parts are now slower *
* Gamer checks Bungie Homepage and sees a big ar$ed article at the top of the page explaining why it is slower and if the person is interested, the technical reasons behind it *
* Gamer removes HD version of game and is all smiles again! *
See simple really and not worthy of half the s**te that MS Hate-boys are spewing on here as usual!
So Bungie do a better job of making sure their game loads faster on the old system, something which many other companies failed hard at, and they're the first ones to end up in the poop with the loading time 'improvement' feature in the New Advertising Experience?
Clever bunjie. Not only a great game, but now a space saving game.
Good thing too considering i just installed both discs of last remnant.
Looks like installing all the discs of multi disc games means you don't have to swap between them anymore.
I am currently playing the beginning of last remnant with disc 2 in the drive. and its working fine.
This in theory could be a good way for friends strapped for cash to play big games on the cheap. so long as you have the disc space. just keep a disc each and away you go.
Sounds like someone playing the Xbox with his pants off.
Looks like installing all the discs of multi disc games means you don't have to swap between them anymore.
This shouldn't be possible as you still need the disc in the drive to fire up the game.
what a f**k up. Microsoft's biggest franchise doesn't work with the new experience.
Great, so now even if i take Halo off the HDD there are probably loads out there that don't know about the problem thus ensuring a f**ked up matchmaking.
Well done, I take my hat off to you. Plebs
Wow, you really are emotional about this, aren't you? Is it really that big of a deal?
Besides which I have read that Bungie are looking into a patch of somesort to either improve this or to prevent you from installing it. If you read into it you'll see that there's a scratch area on the HDD that developers can use for whatever they want, as a result it was always likely that the odd couple of games would not benefit depending on how they were coded.
I'm very interested in understanding what you want from MS/Bungie. Would you rather the NXE didn't have this feature at all for the benefit of one game?
Emotional?? Maybe a little, but my opinion still stands. It's a balls up. Regardless of whether I uninstall it there are loads of gamers that don't frequent forums and the Bungie site that won't know the problem....thus ensuring broken matchmaking for everyone. That to me is a pretty sizeable error and one that should've been thought about. This NXE has been in the making for a long time.
Now I don't profess to know the technical ins and outs, whys and whynots and neither do a lot of people, that's why I play games on a console and not a PC...it doesn't make me an idiot, I'm just not interested in the work involved and technical jargon. I like things to work.
How's it a f**king balls-up?
Microsoft never stated that EVERY game created for the 360 would benefit from HD installs, so take a chill-pill.
As for the non-technical gamer and Halo3 scenario, it's pretty simple really.
* Gamer installs H3 to their hard drive, starts up game and discovers certain parts are now slower *
* Gamer checks Bungie Homepage and sees a big ar$ed article at the top of the page explaining why it is slower and if the person is interested, the technical reasons behind it *
* Gamer removes HD version of game and is all smiles again! *
See simple really and not worthy of half the s**te that MS Hate-boys are spewing on here as usual!
Fail. You never take a chill-pill if something f**ks up in the Sony department. You are the biggest f**king hypocrite on this f**king website. snooker cue.
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