Sony Computer Entertainment Europe president David Reeves says releasing quality hardware is key to growing the games market.
"... Another thing we have committed to for supporting market growth is putting out quality hardware - you don't grow the market by putting out shoddy machines," he said. "So we try to make sure that PS3s have a failure rate of just two to three percent, which is very low by industry standards."
The Sony exec's comments come from an interview with MCV, in which he doesn't directly refer to Xbox 360's dreaded Red Ring of Death failure, although it's hard not to draw the link from what he says. Our Wii's still working anyway...
It's a fair thing for Reeves to point out too. Only yesterday we were talking about how reliable PS3 seems considering the fact that we've all experienced the RRoD with our 360s, some of us on four different consoles.
However, it wasn't all cheeky sniping, with Reeves actually going on to praise the other platform holders, showing a bit of Christmas spirit between the big guys.
"On the competition, I will say Nintendo have only done good things. They have expanded geographically and dramatically extended demographically. They have never been afraid to try new products, be that hardware, or software or peripherals.
"For Microsoft, again, I can understand that, again, they have put money into the market and have initiated growth. In some ways what they have done is brought forward consumers from next year into this year.
"By bringing the price down they are trying to establish themselves quickly, as they did with the first Xbox. But they have built online in a meaningful way and the competition they have brought to the market place is great."
It's a blatant reference to MS, even if he's trying to sugar coat it with a bit of Xmas sprinkle.
Okay, MS released a slightly unfinished product, but I guess there was a price to pay for being first to market (& a hefty red ring repair bill..) - but it seems to have paid off handsomely for the Xbox brand.
Sony - you know you have to lower the cost of your PS3 hardware - you're losing out this Chrimbo - shame. One would think Sony would be making much more of an effort after their botched, late Euro launch and lacking numbers of quality exclusive gaming IPs.
Seriously though, I think the title is taken out of context and if you read the whole article then you will understand better. He does have a point though if CVG are on to their 4th 360!
He still had good things to say about the competition though. Which the competion rarely do.
the double standards will start to come out now, itl be ok for ms to dig CONSTANTLY at sony but not other way around
true a faulty hardware should never go on the market, having gone thru 3 360s allready is a joke, boxed my elite up nothing interests me on 360, prefer my ps3 as im lookin forward to lots more on it and enjoy and prefer the games a damn lot more
So what does grow the market Sony? Overpriced machines? Blu-Ray drives when outside of games very little people are interested in hi-def movies when their DVD's work fine? Exclusive titles? Oh, wait...
I think it's fair to say almost anyone with a 360 has experienced the RROD. Has it dented 360's Popularity at all? Ruined the massive catalogue of quality, AAA titles? Caused problems in their online dominance?
No. No it hasn't. Even when the RROD rears it's ugly head, Microsoft picks your machine up, fixes it and sends it back to you free of charge, no fuss. They made an error with the reliability, but they bend over backwards to make sure it's taken care of.
Word to the wise Sony: Instead of flapping your gums and taking pops at the opposition, why don't you get some decent GAMES out on the shelves instead for your machine? That way, you can stop all the jibber jabber and lead by example.
I think I'm on my 3rd 360 since Xmas 05, but the sheer amount of good gaming time since has made it worthwhile. Hopefully the 3rd gen 360 will be fully product tested before launch
Fair enough Sony, you may have a point, but instead of taking cheap shots at the competition what you need to do RIGHT NOW is bring out some decent Ps3 only exclusives, because there just arn't enough of them to justify that price tag to potential new owners.
Sony continue to dig themselves yet an even deeper hole, which they'll find difficult to get out of...
Instead of sly digs, which show their insecurity and annoyance at being last place this gen, they need to pull their finger out and start securing some decent exclusives for PS3 along with a price cut.
They've only got 2-3 years left really until a new gen starts, so unless they want PS3 to be remembered as a failure and not as a games console but as a Blu-Ray player, they need to act now and fast.
Wow, i thought they were some very respectable comments, yes there was a cheap shot at MS (probably) but not half as bad as some of the statements MS come out with. And i cant believe people are still using the 'no games' jibe, there are loads, and loads of exclusive IPs, Sony have some of the best 1st party Devs support and a brilliant existing and future exclusives line-up.
It amazes me people still put up with RROD, I mean 4 consoles!? if my TV packed up (which it did), i'd probably give them 1 chance and if it failed again I wouldn't bother, people shouldn't have to put up with it when you pay for such items.
the 360 has loads of great game but will it still be working in 10 years time proberly not! its not going to be like my mega drive or dreamcast that i can still play even now which is a dam shame (2 years, 4 360s so far boooo)
Wow, i thought they were some very respectable comments, yes there was a cheap shot at MS (probably) but not half as bad as some of the statements MS come out with. And i cant believe people are still using the 'no games' jibe, there are loads, and loads of exclusive IPs, Sony have some of the best 1st party Devs support and a brilliant existing and future exclusives line-up.
It amazes me people still put up with RROD, I mean 4 consoles!? if my TV packed up (which it did), i'd probably give them 1 chance and if it failed again I wouldn't bother, people shouldn't have to put up with it when you pay for such items.
i know the no games bollox is made by people who just dont like the games, just beacause they dont like em dosent mean it has no games
Bloody hell Sony, move on to a new criticism already, I got tired of RROD comments a long time ago. This smacks of desperation to criticise for it's own sake.
360 does have poor reliability, but since this only ever ends up being a short interruption to your gaming pleasure (all on MS' tab) does it really matter that much? (that's rhetorical rabid 12-year-olds).
PS3 is better built, but that sure as hell hasn't grown the market either. Wii, while reliable, is also not quality hardware (gamecube in a shiny box with gimmick remote?), so that undermines the point too.
Conclusion: consoles are about games/fun and always should be .: quality games/experiences will grow the market above all else.
Wow, i thought they were some very respectable comments, yes there was a cheap shot at MS (probably) but not half as bad as some of the statements MS come out with. And i cant believe people are still using the 'no games' jibe, there are loads, and loads of exclusive IPs, Sony have some of the best 1st party Devs support and a brilliant existing and future exclusives line-up.
It amazes me people still put up with RROD, I mean 4 consoles!? if my TV packed up (which it did), i'd probably give them 1 chance and if it failed again I wouldn't bother, people shouldn't have to put up with it when you pay for such items.
Yep, like Miss_Wacy said, there are too many people with double standards on this site. We should all just concentrate on enjoying the games!
Apart from having a great time on LBP, all my gaming has been on the Xbox 360 for the last few months. Yes I've had a case of the RROD since the 360's launch, but I've spent years enjoying Microsoft's console & it's exclusives and now have a huge bunch of friends on Live (i wouldn't hesitate in buying a new 360 if anything were to go wrong). Rather than putting others down, Sony really need to look at themselves more. Grab some more exclusives, make the PS3 more user friendly (my girlfriend hates it & just asks for the Xbox to be put on) and really lower their prices if they want to improve sales. Sony - 6/10 Must try harder.
Ahh the Big 360 Vs. PS3 debate. I look at it like Sausage rolls.
You can buy them in Greggs, quickly, cheaply and they're satisfying.
or
You can buy them in Marks and Spencers. You have to wait around while they cook, getting better and better all the time - for no extra cost. Once ready, they're tasty and contain so much more flavour.
3 Hours after Greggs, you're on the loo - experiencing the red ring of death.
ok. there is a slight difference between "sly digs" and the truth. the truth is an unescapable fact that you can deflect all you wish with your stupid "why not go and..." comments but must ultimately accept as truth.
i've been a gamer since 94, i accidentally wiped carts on my mega drive, i never experienced any issues with a first gen PS1 i had for 5 years, i had a PS2 that scratched pretty circles in my discs and i had i gamecube with a broken reset button. if you look for problems with a consoles hardware you'll find one. my one gripe with my PS3 is the lack of USB slots, but that can be resolved with a USB hub (in the shape of a Tardis i add). the RROD is an obvious sign from MS about how it views it's customers. it has, since the original x-box, had a "yeah, this'll do." air about them. the orignal x-box was a f**king suped up Nvidia card, nothing innovative there. the controllers were based on flabby yank hands and all it wins is the biggest box under your tv award.
the man here is praising as much as he is berating, but berating with the truth will always lead to the more hardline fanboys replying with "lol, GoW2 biiiatch". the 360 is a cheap and nasty chav/kid console for council estate scum and retards, the PS3 is pure thoroughbred quality for those of us who want a little bit more for our money and have the ability to pay for it. the only step up on the class gaming ladder is PC gamers because they upgrade constantly.
the man problem this gen is 360 gamers who refuse to accept their lot in life, it's not alot but it's their life. eh? eh?
'the 360 is a cheap and nasty chav/kid console for council estate scum and retards, the PS3 is pure thoroughbred quality for those of us who want a little bit more for our money and have the ability to pay for it. the only step up on the class gaming ladder is PC gamers because they upgrade constantly.'
We should just close the thread here, eh? Well what's the point in carrying it on when we have all been told what is what!
i know the no games bollox is made by people who just dont like the games, just beacause they dont like em dosent mean it has no games
Ohhhhh Miss_Wacy! You're a girl after my own heart!!!
Some of us have been saying this kind of thing for ages now, but the XBot's around here have dug their trenches so deep, they don't know what's going on!
The PS3 is here to stay and it's growth will be huge next year. The PS3 is going to have a very long life. To all the XBot's out there banging on about the next XBox in 2009 / 2010 / 2011, that's a shame really, because quite a lot of people are just buying a X360 now. It almost seems like a waste of money.
Eh.... quite a few Microsoft Attack Dogs going over the normal, tired response there as well. I guess it's not just PS3 owners who are quick to jump to the defense of their console.
Seriously though, I think the title is taken out of context and if you read the whole article then you will understand better. He does have a point though if CVG are on to their 4th 360!
He still had good things to say about the competition though. Which the competion rarely do.
Anyway, I'm outta here!!
*sound of brisk footsteps fades*
Now don’t you usually jump on Microsoft, and rightly so, every time one of the chest beating stories from them gets printed? Saying that Sony would never do this type of thing?
Any yet here you are, defending these comments which are undeniably a swipe at the competition! Tut tut, I thought you had standards!
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Eh.... quite a few Microsoft Attack Dogs going over the normal, tired response there as well. I guess it's not just PS3 owners who are quick to jump to the defense of their console.
This is tiring. Look at the post by Chandler above, add in Crimbo, Suiv, Chirs, Wacjob, Mark and you and you have a crazy version of The Waltons.
ok. there is a slight difference between "sly digs" and the truth. the truth is an unescapable fact that you can deflect all you wish with your stupid "why not go and..." comments but must ultimately accept as truth.
i've been a gamer since 94, i accidentally wiped carts on my mega drive, i never experienced any issues with a first gen PS1 i had for 5 years, i had a PS2 that scratched pretty circles in my discs and i had i gamecube with a broken reset button. if you look for problems with a consoles hardware you'll find one. my one gripe with my PS3 is the lack of USB slots, but that can be resolved with a USB hub (in the shape of a Tardis i add). the RROD is an obvious sign from MS about how it views it's customers. it has, since the original x-box, had a "yeah, this'll do." air about them. the orignal x-box was a f**king suped up Nvidia card, nothing innovative there. the controllers were based on flabby yank hands and all it wins is the biggest box under your tv award.
the man here is praising as much as he is berating, but berating with the truth will always lead to the more hardline fanboys replying with "lol, GoW2 biiiatch". the 360 is a cheap and nasty chav/kid console for council estate scum and retards, the PS3 is pure thoroughbred quality for those of us who want a little bit more for our money and have the ability to pay for it. the only step up on the class gaming ladder is PC gamers because they upgrade constantly.
the man problem this gen is 360 gamers who refuse to accept their lot in life, it's not alot but it's their life. eh? eh?
i am a PC and 360 gamer, what does that make me, a classy chav or a chavvy class?
my 360 has never broken so from my point of view it has a 100% reliability record, rrod what?
imagine if the 360 was perfectly reliable what would sony and all the ps3bots on this board go on about? the fact that some go on about which machine is better is pretty sad as it seems people feel insecure of what they own and have to justify it.
i know the no games bollox is made by people who just dont like the games, just beacause they dont like em dosent mean it has no games
Ohhhhh Miss_Wacy! You're a girl after my own heart!!!
Some of us have been saying this kind of thing for ages now, but the XBot's around here have dug their trenches so deep, they don't know what's going on!
The PS3 is here to stay and it's growth will be huge next year. The PS3 is going to have a very long life. To all the XBot's out there banging on about the next XBox in 2009 / 2010 / 2011, that's a shame really, because quite a lot of people are just buying a X360 now. It almost seems like a waste of money.
The waste of money (apart from what your parents spent on your education because your clearly going to be mopping peep show booths for a living) would be to go out any buy a ps3 now. Unless they are completely stupid, you would expect they would knock atleast 25% off the price by march. Then where will you be?? p**sed off with sonys fist up your bottom expecting you to throw good money after the bad money you spent to try and justify your purchase. We can always look forward to sony bringing out a new model, and charging even more for it. Right on.
to true sony. and to all those f**kers commenting on how the ps3 has no good games(you know who you are) why don't you get your heads out your asses and face the fact that the ps3 has far more and better exclusive games than your xbox.and i think it is ms that needs to start bringing out some good exclusive games not sony.
THERES NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD GAME ON A COUGH t**tTING DUALSHOCK
WHO CARES FANBITCH DUALSHOCKS ARE OLD OUT DATED AND CLUNKY BLURAY IS SLOW PS3 IS EXPENSIVE PS3 IS A JOKE
As crude as your comment is, i have to agree. Given a choice of the two consoles with the same games available, i would choose the 360,
the pad is your connection to the console, so it's crucial it's right, and the ps3 pad is old and outdated.
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
you are proof of my point in my previous post! well done, have a medal.
Seriously though, I think the title is taken out of context and if you read the whole article then you will understand better. He does have a point though if CVG are on to their 4th 360!
He still had good things to say about the competition though. Which the competion rarely do.
Anyway, I'm outta here!!
*sound of brisk footsteps fades*
Now don’t you usually jump on Microsoft, and rightly so, every time one of the chest beating stories from them gets printed? Saying that Sony would never do this type of thing?
Any yet here you are, defending these comments which are undeniably a swipe at the competition! Tut tut, I thought you had standards!
Mark is a closet Sony fanboy. I thought everybody knew that?
"The PS3 is here to stay and it's growth will be huge next year. The PS3 is going to have a very long life"
Well i hope so(considering i have one), but i do remember you saying a similar thing for 2008.
It's not really been a great year for sony at all, although the exclusives have been better than some people give it credit for(LBP and metal gear etc). Some of the highest rated metacritic games of the year were on ps3, certainly higher than any 360 game(gears of war 2 was close). So even though the ps3 has struggled this year, it's actually had some good games on it i must admit.
The lineup looks good for next year as well. Maybe i'm swaying towards my ps3 all of a sudden and dismissing my 360? I'll wait to see what happens with the 360's lineup in 2009 first before i join you, voodoo and suivaloom as ps3 fanboys
It’s the Friday before Christmas and everyone is ANGRY! I personally couldn’t give a f**k if someone thinks the console I own is chavvy, or overpriced and has no games. What does it matter? If you’re unsure of your own opinion to actually even give these momentary passes in life even the slightest possible thought then you’re lost anyway!
Free Ferrero Rocher for everyone! (aside from Chandler, who I have packed up some Fortnum & Masons liqueur truffles)
Seriously though, I think the title is taken out of context and if you read the whole article then you will understand better. He does have a point though if CVG are on to their 4th 360!
He still had good things to say about the competition though. Which the competion rarely do.
Anyway, I'm outta here!!
*sound of brisk footsteps fades*
Now don’t you usually jump on Microsoft, and rightly so, every time one of the chest beating stories from them gets printed? Saying that Sony would never do this type of thing?
Any yet here you are, defending these comments which are undeniably a swipe at the competition! Tut tut, I thought you had standards!
Hey, I'm not defending anybody! I'm just pointing out that people could take the story out of all proportions if they didn't read it all. As proven already. And let's face it, Sony must be sick of MS having a pop at them every five minutes! I think this was born out of frustration more than anything else.
Hey, I'm not defending anybody! I'm just pointing out that people could take the story out of all proportions if they didn't read it all. As proven already. And let's face it, Sony must be sick of MS having a pop at them every five minutes! I think this was born out of frustration more than anything else.
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Yes but unfortunately all those gubbins put the price right out of reach for a lot of people. It's better now price wise but with the current financial climate I think they will struggle against the 360.
Both machines are good for what I want which is playing games and yes I do enjoy the extras the PS3 gives.
Seriously though, I think the title is taken out of context and if you read the whole article then you will understand better. He does have a point though if CVG are on to their 4th 360!
He still had good things to say about the competition though. Which the competion rarely do.
Anyway, I'm outta here!!
*sound of brisk footsteps fades*
Now don’t you usually jump on Microsoft, and rightly so, every time one of the chest beating stories from them gets printed? Saying that Sony would never do this type of thing?
Any yet here you are, defending these comments which are undeniably a swipe at the competition! Tut tut, I thought you had standards!
Hey, I'm not defending anybody! I'm just pointing out that people could take the story out of all proportions if they didn't read it all. As proven already. And let's face it, Sony must be sick of MS having a pop at them every five minutes! I think this was born out of frustration more than anything else.
It looks like the gloves are off!!
? unless I'm being blindly biased I cannot remember when MSoft last had a pop at Sony.
unless I'm being blindly biased I cannot remember when MSoft last had a pop at Sony.
I’m not sure they specifically have digs at them, aside from saying Home was an outdated concept recently, they just love getting their k**bs out on the table to say how much bigger it is than everyone else’s at Sony’s. And by k**bs I mean sales figures, not c**ks, as that would be f**king sick.
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
I think you've highlighted the ps3's biggest flaw, all those extras are great, but it's just a game machine at heart, which is what everyboby really wants...mostly
Sony are getting worried because they can see what they did to sega and the dreamcast is getting done to them. Get over it. Karma is a bitch. Now get your software division to get to work on god of war 3 for the 360 so your share holders can still collect their dividends.
unless I'm being blindly biased I cannot remember when MSoft last had a pop at Sony.
I’m not sure they specifically have digs at them, aside from saying Home was an outdated concept recently, they just love getting their k**bs out on the table to say how much bigger it is than everyone else’s at Sony’s. And by k**bs I mean sales figures, not c**ks, as that would be f**king sick.
Well I'm sure Sony would be the first to wave their metaphoricals if the tide was turned on sales figures. As for home not something for me but hey, better than avatars though again not for me.
The waste of money (apart from what your parents spent on your education because your clearly going to be mopping peep show booths for a living) would be to go out any buy a ps3 now. Unless they are completely stupid, you would expect they would knock atleast 25% off the price by march. Then where will you be?? p**sed off with sonys fist up your bottom expecting you to throw good money after the bad money you spent to try and justify your purchase. We can always look forward to sony bringing out a new model, and charging even more for it. Right on.
So what you're saying is that the people are justified in going out and buying a X360 NOW instead of waiting until the price comes down to buy a PS3 (according to you - as soon as March '09)?
Who knows... Maybe it will be you mopping up peep shows at the end of each night. Let me know where you'll be, I just to make sure you have something to clean up.
Desperate times require desperate measures! The guy knows that Sony have f**ked up this generation and resorts to taking a swipe at the far superior competition.
Drop the price NOW Sony or we'll be seeing a lot more than 8000 redundancies after Christmas because that overpriced excuse for a games console just ain't going to sell!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'd rather play games (hear that Sony?) on a flawed machine than naff all except for a second life clone this Christmas.
The choice of games this christmas is staggering and it's only topped by the exclusives on the 360. If I was buying a console now, it would be the 360. The PS3 is still much much too expensive.
The waste of money (apart from what your parents spent on your education because your clearly going to be mopping peep show booths for a living) would be to go out any buy a ps3 now. Unless they are completely stupid, you would expect they would knock atleast 25% off the price by march. Then where will you be?? p**sed off with sonys fist up your bottom expecting you to throw good money after the bad money you spent to try and justify your purchase. We can always look forward to sony bringing out a new model, and charging even more for it. Right on.
So what you're saying is that the people are justified in going out and buying a X360 NOW instead of waiting until the price comes down to buy a PS3 (according to you - as soon as March '09)?
Who knows... Maybe it will be you mopping up peep shows at the end of each night. Let me know where you'll be, I just to make sure you have something to clean up.
Did I stutter? Yes that is what I am saying. MS bit the bullit and dropped the prices in time for christmas, so you would not expect any drops in the forseeable future. Even you have to admit sony needs a price drop to remain in the race if its not too late already. 3 months from now sounds about right so people should forget how arrogant sony were in keeping their prices up in the current climate and over christmas. Let me know where your sister is working and Ill be there with the mop and a pocket full of change.
@ anagi "And i cant believe people are still using the 'no games' jibe, there are loads, and loads of exclusive IPs, Sony have some of the best 1st party Devs support and a brilliant existing and future exclusives line-up.
It amazes me people still put up with RROD, I mean 4 consoles!? if my TV packed up (which it did), i'd probably give them 1 chance and if it failed again I wouldn't bother, people shouldn't have to put up with it when you pay for such items."
And I can't believe that people still use the 'RROD' argument, because you know, it's just as valid as the 'no games' argument... That problem effects MAINLY the very old, first few production runs of consoles... And if it does happen, they repair it for free and usually have it shipped back to you within 2 weeks... And if any more Sony fanboys want to spout RROD again, may I draw your attention to the PS2's DVD drive in the early models... And that never stopped it from being one of the best selling consoles ever... So get off your high horse and accept that the cheapest console can compete with the most expensive, and does it well..
Face it, all 3 of the current consoles have their flaws, be it reliability, game selection, price, controllers, whatever... Everybody will choose the one that suits them best and stick with it.
I don't give a damn what all you girls have been arguing about here, henceforth I've come straight into the comments section
It's a fair thing for Reeves to point out too. Only yesterday we were talking about how reliable PS3 seems considering the fact that we've all experienced the RRoD with our 360s, some of us on four different consoles.
F*cking very, very true. Straight from CVGs mouth, or straight from the horses mouth if you like
It's a fair thing to also point out we are in an era now where games like =
*Killzone 2 *Uncharted 2 *Heavy Rain *God of War III
are not technically possible on the outdated tech inside that disgusting beige shell of the "360"
I am utterly convinced of it. Now you either accept that or you continue to delude yourselves to obscurity
What's more, there is not a single game coming for that horrible b*stard in 2009 that I can get remotely excited about
Also unlike those internet f*ckers that lap up every 10/10, 90+ score that gets dished out like confetti these days, I don't buy it for one second and never will
So you M$ defence force posters can stuff that down your pipe and get stoned senseless from it
I don't give a damn what all you girls have been arguing about here, henceforth I've come straight into the comments section
It's a fair thing for Reeves to point out too. Only yesterday we were talking about how reliable PS3 seems considering the fact that we've all experienced the RRoD with our 360s, some of us on four different consoles.
F*cking very, very true. Straight from CVGs mouth, or straight from the horses mouth if you like
It's a fair thing to also point out we are in an era now where games like =
*Killzone 2 *Uncharted 2 *Heavy Rain *God of War III
are not technically possible on the outdated tech inside that disgusting beige shell of the "360"
I am utterly convinced of it. Now you either accept that or you continue to delude yourselves to obscurity
What's more, there is not a single game coming for that horrible b*stard in 2009 that I can get remotely excited about
Also unlike those internet f*ckers that lap up every 10/10, 90+ score that gets dished out like confetti these days, I don't buy it for one second and never will
So you M$ defence force posters can stuff that down your pipe and get stoned senseless from it
I don't give a damn what all you girls have been arguing about here, henceforth I've come straight into the comments section
It's a fair thing for Reeves to point out too. Only yesterday we were talking about how reliable PS3 seems considering the fact that we've all experienced the RRoD with our 360s, some of us on four different consoles.
F*cking very, very true. Straight from CVGs mouth, or straight from the horses mouth if you like
It's a fair thing to also point out we are in an era now where games like =
*Killzone 2 *Uncharted 2 *Heavy Rain *God of War III
are not technically possible on the outdated tech inside that disgusting beige shell of the "360"
I am utterly convinced of it. Now you either accept that or you continue to delude yourselves to obscurity
What's more, there is not a single game coming for that horrible b*stard in 2009 that I can get remotely excited about
Also unlike those internet f*ckers that lap up every 10/10, 90+ score that gets dished out like confetti these days, I don't buy it for one second and never will
So you M$ defence force posters can stuff that down your pipe and get stoned senseless from it
I don't give a damn what all you girls have been arguing about here, henceforth I've come straight into the comments section
It's a fair thing for Reeves to point out too. Only yesterday we were talking about how reliable PS3 seems considering the fact that we've all experienced the RRoD with our 360s, some of us on four different consoles.
F*cking very, very true. Straight from CVGs mouth, or straight from the horses mouth if you like
It's a fair thing to also point out we are in an era now where games like =
*Killzone 2 *Uncharted 2 *Heavy Rain *God of War III
are not technically possible on the outdated tech inside that disgusting beige shell of the "360"
I am utterly convinced of it. Now you either accept that or you continue to delude yourselves to obscurity
What's more, there is not a single game coming for that horrible b*stard in 2009 that I can get remotely excited about
Also unlike those internet f*ckers that lap up every 10/10, 90+ score that gets dished out like confetti these days, I don't buy it for one second and never will
So you M$ defence force posters can stuff that down your pipe and get stoned senseless from it
Dude you are so far gone I would not know where to start with you. Perhaps you could go to the nearest special ed school and pull out the most retarted kid and ask him to show you how to post without repeating yourself 3 times. All this talk is the same stuff you were saying 6 months ago about haze, lair, motorstorm 2 and resistance 1 & 2. None of these are setting the world on fire are they. Keep throwing names out there though chief. Your bound to hit 1 sooner or later.
I don't give a damn what all you girls have been arguing about here, henceforth I've come straight into the comments section
It's a fair thing for Reeves to point out too. Only yesterday we were talking about how reliable PS3 seems considering the fact that we've all experienced the RRoD with our 360s, some of us on four different consoles.
F*cking very, very true. Straight from CVGs mouth, or straight from the horses mouth if you like
It's a fair thing to also point out we are in an era now where games like =
*Killzone 2 *Uncharted 2 *Heavy Rain *God of War III
are not technically possible on the outdated tech inside that disgusting beige shell of the "360"
I am utterly convinced of it. Now you either accept that or you continue to delude yourselves to obscurity
What's more, there is not a single game coming for that horrible b*stard in 2009 that I can get remotely excited about
Also unlike those internet f*ckers that lap up every 10/10, 90+ score that gets dished out like confetti these days, I don't buy it for one second and never will
So you M$ defence force posters can stuff that down your pipe and get stoned senseless from it
Lovin it... Can you show me where the proof of this comes from:- "are not technically possible on the outdated tech inside that disgusting beige shell of the "360" "
As this is just something that PS3 fanboys spout without thinking! Not fact!
"I am utterly convinced of it. Now you either accept that or you continue to delude yourselves to obscurity "
Of course, I forgot your word is law... Or (more likely) you are deluding yourself to obscurity...
Another fanboy argument. I'm glad that I got up at 4pm today otherwise I would have had to have witnessed this unfold again. Sony will have pops at the competition it is obvious. A key marketing tool is to highlight the competitors flaws. Before the "Xbots" or whatever the fanboys call them start celebrating Microsoft do it too. Not for a little while but they do it everytime they say we outsold the PS3 that means we're better speech. Both RRoD and No games arguments are defunct now. Very few 360's suffer with RRoD now, the killing blow now is the graphics cards inside coming unattached and causing no video output. This isn't covered by the extended warranty and has happened to my brother and my friend, just to let you know. Sony are right though that shoddy consoles are unacceptable, but they need to find a way to lower the price it costs to make their console without damaging the build quality like Microsoft did. No console is perfect, because anything with electronics is doomed to fail one day. You pick your side, you pay your money, and live with your choice, and most importantly play the games on it instead of whinging.
you are proof of my point in my previous post! well done, have a medal
Eh yeah thanks for the medal... But I own all 3 consoles. So you are wrong. This is what you said:
the fact that some go on about which machine is better is pretty sad as it seems people feel insecure of what they own and have to justify it.
So I am in fact not proof of your previous post at all. "Justifying their purchase" implies that the poster would only own the console in question, and not any others.
Again, I own all consoles. So what am I trying to justify? The fact that after extended experience with all 3 current consoles, I happen to prefer the PS3, and don't believe it to be overpriced? That's not justifying my purchase, that's stating my opinion. I'm not justifying jack s**t.
You're a fanboy. I never knew that before tbh pishers, but you are... Your post to me proves it. Here's why:
You don't like the PS3. I like the PS3. In your mind, nobody could like the PS3. Therefore, by saying I like it, or stating reasons why I don't believe it to be overpriced, I must be trying to justify my purchase. Because otherwise, why would anyone say they liked the PS3, right? That's your logic.
The 360 is an excellent bit of hardware, but the PS3 has the same library 3rd party games, and what I personally believe to be the better exclusives and hardware. That doesn't stop me from playing my 360 from time to time if a game comes along that deserves my attention. In fact I have more Xbox 360 games than PS3 games - 39 Xbox (and around 50 XBLA games) vs 24 PS3 - because I played hours upon hours of 360 games before I even got my PS3.
Surely I should be trying to "justify" all the money I poured into my 360 before I even bought a PS3. But no, I enjoy the PS3 more, so that's what I'll play more. No justification necessary.
@ wiiboy Seriously mate, if your just looking for an argument at least pick a console that is not the present of choice for kids under 10 this Christmas. No one is going to take anyone seriously while they are waving their arms around trying to get there game to work while screaming everyone else is s**te.
I have to say, as someone who prefers the 360 over the PS3, some 360 owners haven't done too much for their reputation with some posts this week!
It's not often you hear Sony say things like this, and the RRoD is shocking. But that's not to say it stops the progress of gaming or anything like that! However MS have certainly fired shots at Sony before, no doubt.
The funny thing with fanboys is the name calling and the hypocrisy that goes with it. They call each other fanboy, xbot etc while having a go at their perceived lack of open mind and love for his/hers 'rival' console. And I have so say Suiva (of course) and Lordvonps3 seem to the worst. Oh and tonyb. Whatever happened to xbob?
I hope the people who look down on 360's because they are inexpensive (not because they break - that I can understand, it's because they cost less!!) are hit with both barrels during this recession. Perhaps when tam/crimbo's ("I don't buy bargain" was the phrase I think) parents get in the s**t financially (through no fault of their own) and have to sell their house they won't be able to afford a room for their darling son. So those luxuries like suped up Japanese street racing cars that will never be driven at more than 50% of their top speed, 50" LCD's screens and expensive games consoles won't seem such a priority when the little turd is struggling to pay his rent whilst taking his washing back to mummy. It's also funny he frequents a website that is the equivalent of the 360 - doesn't work a lot the time, so 'cheap' they won't cough up for extra bandwidth! It took me about 15 min on 20MB cable to get this page up - what a waste!!
I know lots of people through work who are properly rich. I mean never work again, aston martin owning rich. And not one single one of them is as snobbish and elitist as idiots like him. I don't mind a different choice of console or difference of opinion, there are just certain ways to go about a constructive debate!
Sorry for the triple post, CVG are plauing games with me again
That’s perfectly fine old bean, your whimsical diatribes are sometimes so good that they deserve to be read three times. I especially like the myriad colours that you put into them, it makes them so pretty.
Surely I should be trying to "justify" all the money I poured into my 360 before I even bought a PS3. But no, I enjoy the PS3 more, so that's what I'll play more. No justification necessary.
You're so right. I think a lot of people's issues are that they don't want to be seen as stupid or mugs for buying the 'wrong' console. So to justify it they overcompensate with the fanboyisms!
Of all the games I've played on 360 and on friends' PS3s, I prefer the 360. I have no problem with stating a preference with some sensible justification and reasoning for their choice (i.e. not wanting a 360 because it's inexpensive as opposed to because it's not as well made. Or not wanting a PS3 because it has "no good games" as opposed to not as many games that I like). And ultimately it comes down to games, which come down to taste anyway, it's not like there's ever going to be a definitive answer!
I know I'm stating the obvious, and it will ultimately be lost in the console war or words, but at least it's off my chest!!
Sometimes I wonder what some people on here are like in real life, then I think to myself, don't be stupid, these guys are clearly insane and you don't want anything to do with them...
Sometimes I wonder what some people on here are like in real life, then I think to myself, don't be stupid, these guys are clearly insane and you don't want anything to do with them...
I daren't think about it. I can see them going to the offy (if they're old enough) and arguing with fellow shoppers over Stella/Kronenberg or going into Homebase and arguing with people who want to buy black paint instead of white.
Mind you it's easy to be big and clever when you can hide behind the internet and spend ten minutes coming up with one witty riposte, instead of thinking quickly on your feet.
theres no such thing as a casual console was the word CASUAL used wen sony were in the lead with ps2 EEEERRRRRMMMMM NO
CASUAL PEOPLE SEEM CONFUSED ITS SUCCESSFUL IS THE WORD THERE LOOKING FOR
THERES NO SUCH THING AS CASUAL/KIDDY/FAMILY CONSOLES THERES CONSOLES THAT PLAY GAMES END OF STORY THERES NO SUCH THING AS A CASUAL CONSOLE IT DOESNT EXIST
SO IF PANASONIC SELL MORE DVD PLAYERS THAN SONY DOES THAT MAKE PANASONICS PLAYER A CASUAL ONE
GROW UP OR SHUT UP SONY FAN BITECHESS
D-PADS AINT NEXT GEN DUALSHOCKS AINT NEXT GEN LONG LOADTIMES AINT NEXT GEN AND BLURAY IS A UNWANTED JOKE
so what do you think of the control pad for the wii? just curious.
THE MOST CASUAL CONTROL IN EXISTENCE IS THE D-PAD WHAT CONSOLE IS BASED AROUND THE 2D 8 BIT D-PAD
SONYS PS3 ITS BASED AROUND A LEFT HAND D-PAD DESIGN FROM A 2D SNES CONTROL PAD
HOW IS 3D MOTION AND 3D MOUSE CASUAL D-PAD DEFINES THE TERM CASUAL
AND SHAKING A SIXAXIS IS LAME SIHT
FPS WITH WII IS CORE GAMER HEAVEN FPS WITH DUALSHOCK IS A JOKE
the dualshock is amazing you can't get any better now the wii's motion controlls are s**t!!!!!!! i tryed to play redstell once and it was horribly i could barely controll it
I'm was on my 3rd bricked RRoD 360 before I decided enough was enough.
You can have the greatest line-up of FPS's and PC ports ever made, but if the console has a 30% to break down, then there is no point to any of it
It shouldn't have even be allowed on the shelves, I'm sure 30% failure rate is illegal.
P.S I beileve the Playstation Dualshock controller is the best out there. Try playing Street Fighter or Tekken on a 360 pad. Impossible.
THE MOST CASUAL CONTROL IN EXISTENCE IS THE D-PAD WHAT CONSOLE IS BASED AROUND THE 2D 8 BIT D-PAD
SONYS PS3 ITS BASED AROUND A LEFT HAND D-PAD DESIGN FROM A 2D SNES CONTROL PAD
HOW IS 3D MOTION AND 3D MOUSE CASUAL D-PAD DEFINES THE TERM CASUAL
AND SHAKING A SIXAXIS IS LAME SIHT
FPS WITH WII IS CORE GAMER HEAVEN FPS WITH DUALSHOCK IS A JOKE
the dualshock is amazing you can't get any better now the wii's motion controlls are s**t!!!!!!! i tryed to play redstell once and it was horribly i could barely controll it
You're right Red Steel was a pig of a game to control, but that was due to shoddy programming more than anything.
As much as I hate to agree with his ramblings, with regards to FPS's, you can't beat the wii pointer controls with a joypad, the accuracy and also immersion just can't be matched.
I've more often than not found the pointer to be more revolutionary in terms of game play than the motion control. We'll see what happens when the motion plus comes out. Of course, if the wii had a proper HDD, developers could potentially patch games retrospectively to take advantage of it - now that would be sweet!
THE MOST CASUAL CONTROL IN EXISTENCE IS THE D-PAD WHAT CONSOLE IS BASED AROUND THE 2D 8 BIT D-PAD
SONYS PS3 ITS BASED AROUND A LEFT HAND D-PAD DESIGN FROM A 2D SNES CONTROL PAD
HOW IS 3D MOTION AND 3D MOUSE CASUAL D-PAD DEFINES THE TERM CASUAL
AND SHAKING A SIXAXIS IS LAME SIHT
FPS WITH WII IS CORE GAMER HEAVEN FPS WITH DUALSHOCK IS A JOKE
the dualshock is amazing you can't get any better now the wii's motion controlls are s**t!!!!!!! i tryed to play redstell once and it was horribly i could barely controll it
I'm was on my 3rd bricked RRoD 360 before I decided enough was enough.
You can have the greatest line-up of FPS's and PC ports ever made, but if the console has a 30% to break down, then there is no point to any of it
It shouldn't have even be allowed on the shelves, I'm sure 30% failure rate is illegal.
P.S I beileve the Playstation Dualshock controller is the best out there. Try playing Street Fighter or Tekken on a 360 pad. Impossible.
Nice try Suiv.
Just stick to your main profile - this Nigel_De Jong isn't amusing at all...I think we all prefer your 'bat-s*** crazy' persona.
? unless I'm being blindly biased I cannot remember when MSoft last had a pop at Sony.
Are you totally serious? You can't remember Microsoft having a pop at Sony? It was a daily event a few weeks ago.
A daily event really? I either have forgotten or did not read said articles. So yeah I'm being serious and another poster said that the only things that MSoft slated recently was home (which while better than avatars are not my cuppa tea either of them) and the sales figures which I'm sure as I said in the post about this that Sony would be boasting if the tide was turned.
Please tell me what else they said?
I have copied that post below:
unless I'm being blindly biased I cannot remember when MSoft last had a pop at Sony.
I’m not sure they specifically have digs at them, aside from saying Home was an outdated concept recently, they just love getting their k**bs out on the table to say how much bigger it is than everyone else’s at Sony’s. And by k**bs I mean sales figures, not c**ks, as that would be f**king sick.
Well I'm sure Sony would be the first to wave their metaphoricals if the tide was turned on sales figures. As for home not something for me but hey, better than avatars though again not for me.
This is tiring. Look at the post by Chandler above, add in Crimbo, Suiv, Chirs, Wacjob, Mark and you and you have a crazy version of The Waltons.
Goodnight Voodoo.
Oh dear, a bit defensive there! Did you sit on your glass or something?
Try reading all the posts next time. For every Crimbo there's a Tonyb or WHERESMYMONEY willing to balance things up.
Im not saying that the PS3 is the only console to have it's Fanboy's but Sony Fanboy's do seem to be the worst (on this site anyway).
If you think that the split on this site is 50/50 then I dont know what your reading, sure after reading the comments again there are 360 Fanboy's in here byt they are vastly outnumbered by the PS3 one's.
Less than a week till Christmas and I was hoping for a bit of Festive cheer, I should have known better.
Less than a week till Christmas and I was hoping for a bit of Festive cheer, I should have known better.
Well, let me be the first to wish you a very Merry Christmas StonecoldMC....make sure your glass is more than half-full at all times
In terms of the events of this thread - well, it was to be expected. To be fair, he didn't actually seem to be all that critical and he actually complemented both of the competition....what's wrong with that? - we all know the 360s' reliability is ridiculously bad, even if he didn't mention it directly.
Must admit - the Wiiboy101 / crimbo argument was hilarious...
This is tiring. Look at the post by Chandler above, add in Crimbo, Suiv, Chirs, Wacjob, Mark and you and you have a crazy version of The Waltons.
Goodnight Voodoo.
Oh dear, a bit defensive there! Did you sit on your glass or something?
Try reading all the posts next time. For every Crimbo there's a Tonyb or WHERESMYMONEY willing to balance things up.
Im not saying that the PS3 is the only console to have it's Fanboy's but Sony Fanboy's do seem to be the worst (on this site anyway).
If you think that the split on this site is 50/50 then I dont know what your reading, sure after reading the comments again there are 360 Fanboy's in here byt they are vastly outnumbered by the PS3 one's.
Less than a week till Christmas and I was hoping for a bit of Festive cheer, I should have known better.
Why do you always try to placate this c**k?...this t**t & "why does nobody like me!" are just sad bastards who post all day as they are still living with mummy and sponging off the state...
Less than a week till Christmas and I was hoping for a bit of Festive cheer, I should have known better.
Well, let me be the first to wish you a very Merry Christmas StonecoldMC....make sure your glass is more than half-full at all times
In terms of the events of this thread - well, it was to be expected. To be fair, he didn't actually seem to be all that critical and he actually complemented both of the competition....what's wrong with that? - we all know the 360s' reliability is ridiculously bad, even if he didn't mention it directly.
Must admit - the Wiiboy101 / crimbo argument was hilarious...
And a Merry Christmas to you too. I should be finished up with work by Monday and that should be me off until January (Woo Hoo), so I think the glass is probably going to be overflowing .
Wiiboy v Crimbo was comedy gold and the best bit is I dont think either of them knew it.
Less than a week till Christmas and I was hoping for a bit of Festive cheer, I should have known better.
Well, let me be the first to wish you a very Merry Christmas StonecoldMC....make sure your glass is more than half-full at all times
In terms of the events of this thread - well, it was to be expected. To be fair, he didn't actually seem to be all that critical and he actually complemented both of the competition....what's wrong with that? - we all know the 360s' reliability is ridiculously bad, even if he didn't mention it directly.
Must admit - the Wiiboy101 / crimbo argument was hilarious...
And a Merry Christmas to you too. I should be finished up with work by Monday and that should be me off until January (Woo Hoo), so I think the glass is probably going to be overflowing .
Wiiboy v Crimbo was comedy gold and the best bit is I dont think either of them knew it.
I'm all done at work for a nice week off now, just finished a few hours ago. I think it's the first time in years that I've not actually worked on Christmas Eve. Looking forward to just chilling out, probably won't get much of a chance to even play any games.
I thought the funniest thing about the Wiiboy101 / crimbo argument was that neither of them even knows how to use the Caps Lock button at all. I figure Wiiboy101 is using his Wiimote to type...which just makes it funnier still - imagine the look of outrage in his face as he's moving around like a really bad cheerleader trying to post a response.
Omg you f**king useless fanboys, just hang yourself please, for the sake of an industry that has been pushed by all competitors and blow your retarded misinformed views out of your ass.
They have a good (if extremely old) point, i been through 3 Xbox breakdowns since i brought it at its release. But still, is a great console with great games that i love, so don't matter to me much (also as i have got great customer service from MS, got free repair each time and got a total of 9 games out of them ).
Building unreliable consoles is bad for the gaming industry as a whole. Micro$oft should be ashamed of themselves. Let's hope Micro$oft don't decide to enter the LCD TV market.
Thats the strategy the Germans had in WWII with regards to tanks.
They built a few excellent tanks while the Allies mass produced inferior tanks.
Im not saying the MS-Sony rivalry is the same as armoured warfare. Selling a few expensive consoles will not see them win anything over MS selling loads of cheap consoles.
Building unreliable consoles is bad for the gaming industry as a whole. Micro$oft should be ashamed of themselves. Let's hope Micro$oft don't decide to enter the LCD TV market.
Luckily, SONY know how to make quality hardware
Forgetting how many people had PS2's that stopped reading disks after just a couple of months use... and how Sony denied it was a hardware fault... and how they were forced to admit it was in a court of law... never had any hardware problems... or the laptops that caught fire...
Building unreliable consoles is bad for the gaming industry as a whole. Micro$oft should be ashamed of themselves. Let's hope Micro$oft don't decide to enter the LCD TV market.
Luckily, SONY know how to make quality hardware
Forgetting how many people had PS2's that stopped reading disks after just a couple of months use... and how Sony denied it was a hardware fault... and how they were forced to admit it was in a court of law... never had any hardware problems... or the laptops that caught fire...
The minor teething problems with some early PS2 systems was hardly on the same scale as the 360's problems. Talking of PS2, if I remember correctly, the XBOX was dropped like a turd from Bill Gates' rectum, while the PS2 is still being supported and selling well.
I like reading these forums just to see how folks think. I own all three consoles. The wii is only fun with 3 or more people and it is growing old on a lot of folks. But still nice to have. The i owned the orginal xbox from day one. Okay system for a started system. Then microsoft released the 360 humm let me see. No HDMI, NO HI DEF, Huge failure rate out of the GATE, NO WIFI, Same crappy wireless technology, same old hard drive technology, no blue tooth support, no rechargeable batteries, same old dvd support should i continue? I think you get my point. PS2 i didn't purchase because i thought the xbox was a better system. PS3 i purchased because i knew the PS3 is a better system. Lets start with bluetooth technology. Before any of you folk repspond. Do any of you drive or have Cell phones? If so, you know bluetooth is the next best thing. So stop fooling yourself about the ps3 bluetooth controllers. It is the current and future technology. Check any of the cellphone websites if you don't belive me Or any car dealership it's bluetooth support not infer-red support in cars and cell phones. Sorry 360 fans that is last years technology. Wifi we all know that is the here, now and the tomorrow. For all you folks saying true gamers only play hard wired and wires is slow. Humm do some research before you say something stupid like wireless is slow. Fact G network Connects at 54mb per second ladies. 100% of us do not have a 54mb pipe coming into our house so stop lying about wireless is to slow. The max that i know of right now is 20mb down and 2mb up. So even at wireless speed. You home network can only do 20 mg not the entire 54 mb so stop lying to yourself. HDMI hahah sorry to say 360 you screwed up again. Not until later on did the 360 added hdmi because microsoft releazied what a silly mistake leave it out was. Built-in power supply. YES thank you sony. I can go to the local radio shack and pick up a stand pc power cord and it works on my ps3. Sorry 360. Standard hard drive. I can go to any computer store and pickup a standard laptop hard drive and put it in myself without paying 100 for a 60 gig boat ancher from microft. Charging will i play controllers that only takes 15-20 minutes to charge 360 screwed up again. yes you can replace the battery folks so stop lying to yourself again. Blue Ray will be here, today and tomorrow. sorry 360 you missed the boat on that one as well. To say folks don't want blue or hd is stupid. I guess the 600,000 blue ray dark night sells in oneday is because folks don't want blue ray. What about the 700,000 sells of Iron man on Blue ray in a week. Folks don't want blue ray i guess. i guess the large purchase of HD TV and blue ray player on black friday are saying that folks don't want blue ray. People stop lying to yourself about people not wanting blue ray. Just look at the sale numbers then shut up about it already. Fact games will get larger in the years to come. 2-3 disk for dvd 360 old technology. For folks who think downloading is the way to go forget about it. They are slapping a cap on downloand and charging more to download. Not everybody has internet so downloading hi def aint going to happen. Online play is great from microsoft. But not everybody has internet and will not be playing on live. or PSN so who cares about that. Nothing p**ses me off more then have to sit directly in front of the 360 to get a good connection with my wireless controller old technology sorry 360. Wireless head sets. I have 2 for my bluetooth phone. guess what folks? They work on my ps3 flawlessly motorolla 500 and southwing stero headsets. can't do that with the 360 sorry. I can browse the internet with the ps3 which i do when i'm sitting in front of my 50" plasma sorry 360 can't do that. i guess my point is this. Stop saying 360 is new technology because it is not. It is old crap and microsoft know this. PS3 is the new technology just ask all the game develpoers they will tell you so. finally are you folks really that damn stupid. Sony game division going out of business. humm 140 million ps2 units sold. 1.8 billion games sold. Sony game divison has to much friggin money way too much. You cats are stupid to say sony is going out of business. To be honest from a business perspective sony could careless about the ps3 being sold as a game console. Hate to tell you boys if you look at pc they are getting smaller and coming with HDMI so what does that tell me? PC are becoming media centers. Humm i think sony knows this and microsoft doesn't sorry 360. If you look at year to date. Sony sold more ps3 at a higher price then microsoft did at a lower price. For all you nutts keep saying sony need to lower it price. Humm let take a look at black friday 360 was selling for $199 that is cheaper then the wii which sold for $250. Guess what? The wii sold 2 million and it cost more then the 360. My point is, it is not all about price folks if that was the case 360 would have sold 2 million not wii. Sorry but price is not always the issue. I think if you look at 360 sales after 2 years ps3 sold about 4-5 million more units. so how is that doing bad. 360 is the one having issue they only sold 24 million world wide in 3 years sony sold 17 million world wide in 2 years. If i was microsoft i would be concerned about those numbers. Feb 2009 everyone will have to either purchase a hd tv or get a box. trust me 09 is the year for blue ray and the ps3. sorry 360 on yeah and for all you crazy folks talking about purchasing other blue ray players. Guess what suckas, sony is getting lic profits from that as well. The ps3 is make sony so much money in so many different ways, let see, games, blueray moves, money from other vender selling blue players, sony own a music company and movie company. The make Tv and av equipment. Please i can't believe some of the dumbs**t that folks are saying without doing their homework. Trust me microsoft nor sony are going about of business because of console sales. Now the other console comapany just might because that is all it does. AKA WII
Are you really that stupid or are you joking? I can't tell. It seems you don't know anything about the wii's rivals, only things you have misread or misheard. The 360 and the PS3 are not obsolete at all my friend, in fact, they are both getting updated regularly to ensure that they stay fresh for a while.
Well done Zero_cool... Someone who actually gets it. The PS3 is a serious bit of kit and the price should reflect that.
Those who think X360 is going to "win" at a new price point should take a good look at the better selling, more expensive Wii. The Wii is more fun than the X360 and like it or not - is currently the games console of choice. With the demise of HD-DVD, the X360 fails at being a media centre compared with the PS3 and so all that is left is to fight and lose the 'pure' games-only console war Vs the Wii.
The X360 is now targeting the barrel scraping, mass market. Beyond XBL, the X360 has no outstanding features as a unit, but it does have some good, exclusive games. Compared to the likes of Zelda, Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart, the X360 exclusives are not big enough to ensure X360 sells on par with the Wii. To make matters worse, the PS3 now has the same line up of 3rd party games as the X360, plus it's own exclusives and the benefit of major hardware features built in to the unit.
At the current price point, I really would expect the X360 to sell another few million more units than the PS3 this Christmas, but going into 2009, the PS3 still won't be far behind (<10M) and the PS3 has the advantage of not yet being at a price point to target the mass market (Ł200 - 250).
Is it just me or does Microsoft have no innovation left for the X360? Microsoft has tried to grab the casual gamer by introducing static avatars and games like "Lips", but both have been a failure... With a cheaper Wii / PS3 (slim?) breathing down it's neck mid-2009, we may well see the X360 on life support by the end of 2010.
wiiboy101 nuthing p**ses me off more than blind ignorent fools like yourself how is the ps3 out dated compare to the wii? ps2 games look better than wii games plus the wii only has kids games no resistance 2 type of game no MGS4 type of game no PROPER racing games NO PROPER FPS NO Stealth games if u want to play wii sports how about you get off your Fu***ng lazy ass go down to the park you will be amaised what some exercise and fresh air can do you. I HATE ALL consoles because none of them are reliable NONE of them are worth there money im on my 3rd xbox 360 in under 2 years. in 16 months ive had my ps3 repaired 3 times first it wouldent read blu-ray disks than i couldent use wireless internet then it overheated so the games kept freezing locking up the console so all i could do is pull the plug out and now its starting to do the same so it looks like soon it will be 4 repairs for my ps3. also seriously microsoft has released god knows how many articles critisizing their competitors thats fine but than sony do the same ONCE and everone start bagging them as babies and whatever seriously GROW THE HELL UP so in comparison 360= cheap piece of crap PS3= expencive piece of crap' and wii= cheap piece of crap wich cant be used for anything but kids games that have the garphical power of doom 2 real high tec that is ay?
I like reading these forums just to see how folks think. I own all three consoles. The wii is only fun with 3 or more people and it is growing old on a lot of folks. But still nice to have. The i owned the orginal xbox from day one. Okay system for a started system. Then microsoft released the 360 humm let me see. No HDMI, NO HI DEF, Huge failure rate out of the GATE, NO WIFI, Same crappy wireless technology, same old hard drive technology, no blue tooth support, no rechargeable batteries, same old dvd support should i continue? I think you get my point. PS2 i didn't purchase because i thought the xbox was a better system. PS3 i purchased because i knew the PS3 is a better system. Lets start with bluetooth technology. Before any of you folk repspond. Do any of you drive or have Cell phones? If so, you know bluetooth is the next best thing. So stop fooling yourself about the ps3 bluetooth controllers. It is the current and future technology. Check any of the cellphone websites if you don't belive me Or any car dealership it's bluetooth support not infer-red support in cars and cell phones. Sorry 360 fans that is last years technology. Wifi we all know that is the here, now and the tomorrow. For all you folks saying true gamers only play hard wired and wires is slow. Humm do some research before you say something stupid like wireless is slow. Fact G network Connects at 54mb per second ladies. 100% of us do not have a 54mb pipe coming into our house so stop lying about wireless is to slow. The max that i know of right now is 20mb down and 2mb up. So even at wireless speed. You home network can only do 20 mg not the entire 54 mb so stop lying to yourself. HDMI hahah sorry to say 360 you screwed up again. Not until later on did the 360 added hdmi because microsoft releazied what a silly mistake leave it out was. Built-in power supply. YES thank you sony. I can go to the local radio shack and pick up a stand pc power cord and it works on my ps3. Sorry 360. Standard hard drive. I can go to any computer store and pickup a standard laptop hard drive and put it in myself without paying 100 for a 60 gig boat ancher from microft. Charging will i play controllers that only takes 15-20 minutes to charge 360 screwed up again. yes you can replace the battery folks so stop lying to yourself again. Blue Ray will be here, today and tomorrow. sorry 360 you missed the boat on that one as well. To say folks don't want blue or hd is stupid. I guess the 600,000 blue ray dark night sells in oneday is because folks don't want blue ray. What about the 700,000 sells of Iron man on Blue ray in a week. Folks don't want blue ray i guess. i guess the large purchase of HD TV and blue ray player on black friday are saying that folks don't want blue ray. People stop lying to yourself about people not wanting blue ray. Just look at the sale numbers then shut up about it already. Fact games will get larger in the years to come. 2-3 disk for dvd 360 old technology. For folks who think downloading is the way to go forget about it. They are slapping a cap on downloand and charging more to download. Not everybody has internet so downloading hi def aint going to happen. Online play is great from microsoft. But not everybody has internet and will not be playing on live. or PSN so who cares about that. Nothing p**ses me off more then have to sit directly in front of the 360 to get a good connection with my wireless controller old technology sorry 360. Wireless head sets. I have 2 for my bluetooth phone. guess what folks? They work on my ps3 flawlessly motorolla 500 and southwing stero headsets. can't do that with the 360 sorry. I can browse the internet with the ps3 which i do when i'm sitting in front of my 50" plasma sorry 360 can't do that. i guess my point is this. Stop saying 360 is new technology because it is not. It is old crap and microsoft know this. PS3 is the new technology just ask all the game develpoers they will tell you so. finally are you folks really that damn stupid. Sony game division going out of business. humm 140 million ps2 units sold. 1.8 billion games sold. Sony game divison has to much friggin money way too much. You cats are stupid to say sony is going out of business. To be honest from a business perspective sony could careless about the ps3 being sold as a game console. Hate to tell you boys if you look at pc they are getting smaller and coming with HDMI so what does that tell me? PC are becoming media centers. Humm i think sony knows this and microsoft doesn't sorry 360. If you look at year to date. Sony sold more ps3 at a higher price then microsoft did at a lower price. For all you nutts keep saying sony need to lower it price. Humm let take a look at black friday 360 was selling for $199 that is cheaper then the wii which sold for $250. Guess what? The wii sold 2 million and it cost more then the 360. My point is, it is not all about price folks if that was the case 360 would have sold 2 million not wii. Sorry but price is not always the issue. I think if you look at 360 sales after 2 years ps3 sold about 4-5 million more units. so how is that doing bad. 360 is the one having issue they only sold 24 million world wide in 3 years sony sold 17 million world wide in 2 years. If i was microsoft i would be concerned about those numbers. Feb 2009 everyone will have to either purchase a hd tv or get a box. trust me 09 is the year for blue ray and the ps3. sorry 360 on yeah and for all you crazy folks talking about purchasing other blue ray players. Guess what suckas, sony is getting lic profits from that as well. The ps3 is make sony so much money in so many different ways, let see, games, blueray moves, money from other vender selling blue players, sony own a music company and movie company. The make Tv and av equipment. Please i can't believe some of the dumbs**t that folks are saying without doing their homework. Trust me microsoft nor sony are going about of business because of console sales. Now the other console comapany just might because that is all it does. AKA WII
Plus you still havent enlightened my addled brain on the daily Sony bashing by MSoft.
Some idiot fanboy rattles off a pile of rubbish and you reply in the typical idiot fanboy fashion or posting a link to some half baked story that you think backs up your views. Totally bloody sad. I'm not bothered if you think Microsoft are whiter than white. Anyone that regularly reads these articles knows they're more than able to sling mud. It's a shame you seem totally oblivious to it.
This is tiring. Look at the post by Chandler above, add in Crimbo, Suiv, Chirs, Wacjob, Mark and you and you have a crazy version of The Waltons.
Goodnight Voodoo.
Oh dear, a bit defensive there! Did you sit on your glass or something?
Try reading all the posts next time. For every Crimbo there's a Tonyb or WHERESMYMONEY willing to balance things up.
Im not saying that the PS3 is the only console to have it's Fanboy's but Sony Fanboy's do seem to be the worst (on this site anyway).
If you think that the split on this site is 50/50 then I dont know what your reading, sure after reading the comments again there are 360 Fanboy's in here byt they are vastly outnumbered by the PS3 one's.
Less than a week till Christmas and I was hoping for a bit of Festive cheer, I should have known better.
360 fanboys are the worst of the lot on any site imo, they annoy me alot more then any other fanboys, there opinion allways has to be fact alot of the time to them
Plus you still havent enlightened my addled brain on the daily Sony bashing by MSoft.
Some idiot fanboy rattles off a pile of rubbish and you reply in the typical idiot fanboy fashion or posting a link to some half baked story that you think backs up your views. Totally bloody sad. I'm not bothered if you think Microsoft are whiter than white. Anyone that regularly reads these articles knows they're more than able to sling mud. It's a shame you seem totally oblivious to it.
You really are a tosser arent you I dont have views about sales of consoles that is NPD data of sales so how is that half baked and my opinion? MSoft are anything but whiter than white and if you read my posts properly I have plenty to moan about them.
You then say that in the past couple of weeks MSoft have done nothing but slag Sony down but fail to back it up in any shape or form. Who is the fanboy idiot again? No I am not oblivious to mud slinging from either side and will state my point of view.
Below is my bug bears with current crop of consoles:
MSoft: Unreliable as f**k (I'm on number 4 as I already said in this thread, oh sorry I think MSoft is whiter than white so I'm really on my 1st).
Very overpriced extras (again I'm an idiot fanboy so the extras are a bargain)
Live could be cheaper or free now(again being a fanboy its a perfect price for a perfect product).
Noisy as a vacuum cleaner(again being a fanboy I just turn the TV up to max to hide the problem)
Sony:
Too much onboard for a games machine most of it not needed just for games. (again being a blind msoft fan this is a complete lie that I just made up).
Software (now this is personal opinion time) could be better for what titles I want to play.
Price (see first comment) It puts a lot of people off of buying it especially in the current economic climate.
Those are my downers on both consoles which I have posted on these forums lots of times.
Oh I'm sorry that I wrote that in response to you calling me an idiot fanboy I'll try not to hurt your feelings next time .
Yep you have seen my true fanboy colours now.
Me quoting NPD sales figures that show the PS3 needs to drop price has enraged you this much. I'm shocked for someone so neutral.
Still waiting for these tons of articles where MSoft have done nothing but slag Sony off in the past 2 weeks.
You didn't actually report NPD figures, you reported someones interpretation of those NPD figures. Then again being the expert that you are would know the difference wouldn't you.
As for enraging me don't kid yourself. Bored maybe but not enraged.
Quality produce indeed. I'm on my second ps3. I have a mate on his fifth unit all replacements from sony. i know aother on his second and he barley used it only for blue-ray. I'm on my second xbox but i averge 20+ hours a week on it depending on my socail life and the weather. So please Sony go F yourself becuase your Hardware may look nice but thats it
Oh I'm sorry that I wrote that in response to you calling me an idiot fanboy I'll try not to hurt your feelings next time .
Yep you have seen my true fanboy colours now.
Me quoting NPD sales figures that show the PS3 needs to drop price has enraged you this much. I'm shocked for someone so neutral.
Still waiting for these tons of articles where MSoft have done nothing but slag Sony off in the past 2 weeks.
You didn't actually report NPD figures, you reported someones interpretation of those NPD figures. Then again being the expert that you are would know the difference wouldn't you.
As for enraging me don't kid yourself. Bored maybe but not enraged.
Omfg you really are something else you butt into a point that was not aimed at you, rip into me and then write the above. I actually pity you.
Still waiting for those squillions of articles too.
Oh I'm sorry that I wrote that in response to you calling me an idiot fanboy I'll try not to hurt your feelings next time .
Yep you have seen my true fanboy colours now.
Me quoting NPD sales figures that show the PS3 needs to drop price has enraged you this much. I'm shocked for someone so neutral.
Still waiting for these tons of articles where MSoft have done nothing but slag Sony off in the past 2 weeks.
You didn't actually report NPD figures, you reported someones interpretation of those NPD figures. Then again being the expert that you are would know the difference wouldn't you.
As for enraging me don't kid yourself. Bored maybe but not enraged.
Well the 1st paragraph on that link said this:
"On last Thursday, the NPD Group divulged its report chronicling retail U.S. videogame hardware and software sales during the month of November 2008."
So I take it that is the NPD figures and not a take on them by some analyst. Then I'm not the expert like you so I most probably read that wrong too.
This is tiring. Look at the post by Chandler above, add in Crimbo, Suiv, Chirs, Wacjob, Mark and you and you have a crazy version of The Waltons.
Goodnight Voodoo.
Oh dear, a bit defensive there! Did you sit on your glass or something?
Try reading all the posts next time. For every Crimbo there's a Tonyb or WHERESMYMONEY willing to balance things up.
Im not saying that the PS3 is the only console to have it's Fanboy's but Sony Fanboy's do seem to be the worst (on this site anyway).
If you think that the split on this site is 50/50 then I dont know what your reading, sure after reading the comments again there are 360 Fanboy's in here byt they are vastly outnumbered by the PS3 one's.
Less than a week till Christmas and I was hoping for a bit of Festive cheer, I should have known better.
360 fanboys are the worst of the lot on any site imo, they annoy me alot more then any other fanboys, there opinion allways has to be fact alot of the time to them
Omfg you really are something else you butt into a point that was not aimed at you, rip into me and then write the above. I actually pity you.
Still waiting for those squillions of articles too.
dear dear who's getting enraged now
There's no point showing you articles, but the looks of things you can't read them anyway.
Hows me pitying you being enraged? You cannot back up anything you have said. Yet are the first to ask for proof when people say bad things about the PS3. Now again by your snide literacy comment it shows how you cannot handle an adult debate. Again I really do pity you. Sad really
EDIT in bold: I thought you said you wasn't enraged but now say that.
Common knowledge the 360's lack of reliability (on number 4 myself). That article was quite balanced and fair.
I concur. Each of the three main consoles out today have their pros and cons. I would buy a PS3 if it were much less expensive as I find it out of proportion to spend near 400.00 euros to purchase it when I can get a Wii or Xbox 360 for about 55% of that in terms of price. The PS3 is too expensive to take on the other two consoles in the price wars. Period. That Sony also created rootkit DRM is another reason why I won't buy Sony products.
The Xbox 360 has some well documented quality control issues (ex. RRoD). This is simply shoddy quality and there really isn't much that can be said to genuinely negate that point. That the Xbox 360 is a more popular selling console than the PS3 and has had a good deal of success with many exclusive titles is also something that can't genuinely be denied empirically speaking.
The Wii wins the market share race hands down so far. It may use less advanced technology yet it does seem to be built like a rock - I'm sure any product will have some defective units but personally I haven't yet heard of anyone having massive issues with their Wii. That the Wii has intentionally been marketed to a more casual gaming crowd also seems to have influenced the games that are released for it which do not seem to be to the taste of a number of other gamers, myself included (they might be a lot of fun during social gatherings though).
I personally didn't find the Sony fellow's comments to be over-the-top vindictive nor particularly filled with vitriol. His comments seemed quite sober and though he did criticize the lack of build quality in a certain console he didn't mention any names yet it seems a good portion of us in here immediately equated that with MS and the Xbox 360 (there's a reason for that) yet he also went on to praise both Nintendo and MS for what they've each accomplished separately. Take it for what it's worth; it doesn't change the current market standings - if anything it's his summary interpretation of the current state of the console market.
lonewolf2002, yep that story just confirms what i said earlier in the thread. The ps3 has struggled this year(despite how giddy lordvonps3 gets about it), even though it's had some good exclusives. I have to admit i'm enjoying my ps3 more these days than i did a few months ago, but i still favour my 360.
I do like the look of sony's 2009 lineup though, but there's already secret projects going on at both sony and microsoft for 2009. It'll be interesting to see if the 360 can match the ps3's exclusives throughout the year. I think it will actually with a number of surprising titles popping up on the 360 through 2009. And i'm not talking about metal gear(which will arrive).
I really hope sony respond to the 360's excellent supply of downloadable games as well. I buy a lot of those kind of games and the 360 has new games every week(wednesday). Some of them are truly outstanding as well, something that can't be said about the psn store.
The 360 is like your every day car. It breaks down some, but it is easy to get fixed, but you understand it because you drive it every day. It gets you where you want to go.
The PS3 is your Ferrari. It cost you a ton of money, but you are proud to own it. But you never drive it anywhere, because, well, who takes a Ferrari to the grocery store. You sometimes wonder if it is worth owning. But it is a Ferrari.
I own a 360, and would like to own a PS3. Not a ton of games I want on the PS3 that I can't get already on the 360, but there are some. But Sony have to come down on the price. It is a known fact that hardware rarely makes a profit anyway, so they could afford to cut the price and push out more units and it would still balance out. I really wish they had not bothered so much with Blu-Ray, so that the average guy could afford the system. It is a shame. So for now, I will stick to the ole 360..which by the way, I have only had to replace once. And that only took 5 days to ship and get it back. Not too bad.
I'm impressed that at least one company doesn't have to resort to bitching and complaining. He praised both the 360 and the wii, since they are both very good, but its too clear the 360 won't win, the price reductions are due to MS panicking, they aren't being charitable. Now people will buy a cheap ass console that'll break on them within the year. Fun christmas day, huh, calming down your upset child when their xbox gets a lovely red ring. I'll stick with my PS3 through and through, i've had it since launch, and to date, nothing remotely terrible has happened to it. Problems that have occured have been easily sorted out from the comfort of my armchair, there has been no lasting damage. You get what you pay for I guess, cheap = unreliable, expensive = sturdy.
But having your ass handed to you by a "shoddy machine" can't feel too good either eh Sony? The shoddy machine has better games Sony. I guess the way you plan on making the PS3 a ten year console is by waiting 9 years to finally release some "A" titles? The Wii is the only one that has actually grown the industry by attracting non gamers.
The PS3 is too expensive to take on the other two consoles in the price wars. Period. That Sony also created rootkit DRM is another reason why I won't buy Sony products.
So what you're saying is even if Sony were to start selling PS3's for Ł100 you wouldn't buy one? In effect the price is irrelevant to you?
lonewolf2002, yep that story just confirms what i said earlier in the thread. The ps3 has struggled this year(despite how giddy lordvonps3 gets about it), even though it's had some good exclusives. I have to admit i'm enjoying my ps3 more these days than i did a few months ago, but i still favour my 360.
I do like the look of sony's 2009 lineup though, but there's already secret projects going on at both sony and microsoft for 2009. It'll be interesting to see if the 360 can match the ps3's exclusives throughout the year. I think it will actually with a number of surprising titles popping up on the 360 through 2009. And i'm not talking about metal gear(which will arrive).
I really hope sony respond to the 360's excellent supply of downloadable games as well. I buy a lot of those kind of games and the 360 has new games every week(wednesday). Some of them are truly outstanding as well, something that can't be said about the psn store.
Roll on 2009 for both machines
Exactly I just think Sony need to cut the console price one way or another and then hopefully make it back in games sales.
I would like both consoles to do well and both have decent exclusives/non exclusive titles. Then it's all good for gamers.
As for better games on arcade over PSN downloads I couldnt possibly comment as I dont pay for mainly retro style gaming. Each to their own though.
I'm a realist not a Fanboy I can take criticism of my consoles as long as they are founded in FACT (where possible ). The PS3 while an impressive piece of hardware is just too pricey for the current economical climate (my opinion).
MGS on the 360 well for me that would be a no no (just my choice as I wouldnt buy it for any console). I cant see it turning up the 360 but again just my opinion.
I'm still favouring the 360 but only because of Fable and Last Remnant. I am looking forward to Drakes 2 and WKC (even though the 1st reviews havent been favourable that matters not to me as I will still get plus it seems like JRPG's are getting lower and lower scores every time).
Common knowledge the 360's lack of reliability (on number 4 myself). That article was quite balanced and fair.
I concur. Each of the three main consoles out today have their pros and cons. I would buy a PS3 if it were much less expensive as I find it out of proportion to spend near 400.00 euros to purchase it when I can get a Wii or Xbox 360 for about 55% of that in terms of price. The PS3 is too expensive to take on the other two consoles in the price wars. Period. That Sony also created rootkit DRM is another reason why I won't buy Sony products.
The Xbox 360 has some well documented quality control issues (ex. RRoD). This is simply shoddy quality and there really isn't much that can be said to genuinely negate that point. That the Xbox 360 is a more popular selling console than the PS3 and has had a good deal of success with many exclusive titles is also something that can't genuinely be denied empirically speaking.
The Wii wins the market share race hands down so far. It may use less advanced technology yet it does seem to be built like a rock - I'm sure any product will have some defective units but personally I haven't yet heard of anyone having massive issues with their Wii. That the Wii has intentionally been marketed to a more casual gaming crowd also seems to have influenced the games that are released for it which do not seem to be to the taste of a number of other gamers, myself included (they might be a lot of fun during social gatherings though).
I personally didn't find the Sony fellow's comments to be over-the-top vindictive nor particularly filled with vitriol. His comments seemed quite sober and though he did criticize the lack of build quality in a certain console he didn't mention any names yet it seems a good portion of us in here immediately equated that with MS and the Xbox 360 (there's a reason for that) yet he also went on to praise both Nintendo and MS for what they've each accomplished separately. Take it for what it's worth; it doesn't change the current market standings - if anything it's his summary interpretation of the current state of the console market.
Good valid points in that post and you dont own any of the consoles. I'm impressed.
Only a complete idiot would try and say the 360 is as reliable as the PS3.
The part in bold I did agree with, a few pages back although the zealots obviously missed that.
Although the line about not wanting a Sony product at all because of thier involvment with DRM (excuse me while I use the mouthwash)seems out of place from the rest of the post.
DRM is a nightmare along the lines of securom (more mouthwash) it doesnt work only legitimate users get penalised (I have had games not even wanting to install because of anti theft measures and thats the least of the problems with the crap).
Where as pirates/downloaders get all they like with no anti theft measures in place and this is a good working system lmfao.
All 3 consoles (not including handhelds) of now are decent in their own right. As long as you are happy with your choices then it's all good.
Exactly I just think Sony need to cut the console price one way or another and then hopefully make it back in games sales.
I would like both consoles to do well and both have decent exclusives/non exclusive titles. Then it's all good for gamers.
As for better games on arcade over PSN downloads I couldnt possibly comment as I dont pay for mainly retro style gaming. Each to their own though.
Thats enough waffling.
That's quite funny coming from someone who says the PS3 has no games. If the PS3 really had no games, how would it hope to recoup losses on the console (after yet another price cut) on game sales?
If you shop around - which I expect you do, you'll see that games are selling for a lot less this Christmas, hardly the sort of figures you can expect Sony to make heaps of profit on.
No. Sony are right to keep the PS3's price where it is until a slim (read cheaper) model can be released. Do you know or understand why the X360 isn't as popular as the Wii? People WANT the Wii, they don't want the X360 - even in spite of it's games. On the Wii, people have Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Mario Kart, etc and that's what they want. The X360 has it's exclusives sure, but they're not as big as Nintendo's. The X360 doesn't support Blu-ray and it has no other redeeming features bar XBL - which many aren't willing to pay for anyway.
As for the PS3 - it's purpose is to drive movies and games on to HD. That is not a short term thing (5 yrs), it is a long term strategy. It isn't selling quite as well as X360 / Wii - not because of price, but because a lot of people are only willing to upgrade to HD once their old TV actually breaks down.
Sony is right to ignore X360 fanboys such as yourself, banging on about price cuts. X360 fanboys are so invested in their console they want to make the PS3 die at the same inevitable time that the X360 will - and one way to do that is to devalue the PS3 by demanding price cuts.
Sony is focused on the bigger picture this time. It is not just games and there has to be value add for the console to last 9-10 years. If it takes 9 years for the PS3 to sell 120M units, so be it, X360 will never reach such heights and Sony would profit from such a strategy. The PS3 is selling pretty well for a console with another 7 years to go and there's plenty of time to make price cuts.
Exactly I just think Sony need to cut the console price one way or another and then hopefully make it back in games sales.
I would like both consoles to do well and both have decent exclusives/non exclusive titles. Then it's all good for gamers.
As for better games on arcade over PSN downloads I couldnt possibly comment as I dont pay for mainly retro style gaming. Each to their own though.
Thats enough waffling.
That's quite funny coming from someone who says the PS3 has no games. If the PS3 really had no games, how would it hope to recoup losses on the console (after yet another price cut) on game sales?
If you shop around - which I expect you do, you'll see that games are selling for a lot less this Christmas, hardly the sort of figures you can expect Sony to make heaps of profit on.
No. Sony are right to keep the PS3's price where it is until a slim (read cheaper) model can be released. Do you know or understand why the X360 isn't as popular as the Wii? People WANT the Wii, they don't want the X360 - even in spite of it's games. On the Wii, people have Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Mario Kart, etc and that's what they want. The X360 has it's exclusives sure, but they're not as big as Nintendo's. The X360 doesn't support Blu-ray and it has no other redeeming features bar XBL - which many aren't willing to pay for anyway.
As for the PS3 - it's purpose is to drive movies and games on to HD. That is not a short term thing (5 yrs), it is a long term strategy. It isn't selling quite as well as X360 / Wii - not because of price, but because a lot of people are only willing to upgrade to HD once their old TV actually breaks down.
Sony is right to ignore X360 fanboys such as yourself, who are so invested in their console they want to make the PS3 die at the same inevitable time that the X360 will. That won't happen.
Sony is focused on the bigger picture this time. It is not just games and there has to be value add for the console to last 9-10 years. If it takes 9 years for the PS3 to sell 120M units, so be it, X360 will never reach such heights and Sony would profit from such a strategy. The PS3 is selling pretty well for a console with another 7 years to go and there's plenty of time to make price cuts.
Enough waffle indeed.
Lol, if you read my posts properly I didnt say it had a lack of games. I actually said games that I would play.
Also why would I want the most expensive console of this generation that I own fail? Madness just like your amusing posts me old fruity.
The 360 is like your every day car. It breaks down some, but it is easy to get fixed, but you understand it because you drive it every day. It gets you where you want to go.
The PS3 is your Ferrari. It cost you a ton of money, but you are proud to own it. But you never drive it anywhere, because, well, who takes a Ferrari to the grocery store. You sometimes wonder if it is worth owning. But it is a Ferrari.
I own a 360, and would like to own a PS3. Not a ton of games I want on the PS3 that I can't get already on the 360, but there are some. But Sony have to come down on the price. It is a known fact that hardware rarely makes a profit anyway, so they could afford to cut the price and push out more units and it would still balance out. I really wish they had not bothered so much with Blu-Ray, so that the average guy could afford the system. It is a shame. So for now, I will stick to the ole 360..which by the way, I have only had to replace once. And that only took 5 days to ship and get it back. Not too bad.
Only once you lucky bar steward .
In bold: It is a shame as I stated earlier too many extra gubbins for a games machine (my opinion), not that I dont make use of some of them the USB HDD file playing is great (take note MSoft).
Just a shame when you point stuff like this out you get accused of all sorts.
I'm impressed that at least one company doesn't have to resort to bitching and complaining. He praised both the 360 and the wii, since they are both very good, but its too clear the 360 won't win, the price reductions are due to MS panicking, they aren't being charitable. Now people will buy a cheap ass console that'll break on them within the year. Fun christmas day, huh, calming down your upset child when their xbox gets a lovely red ring. I'll stick with my PS3 through and through, i've had it since launch, and to date, nothing remotely terrible has happened to it. Problems that have occured have been easily sorted out from the comfort of my armchair, there has been no lasting damage. You get what you pay for I guess, cheap = unreliable, expensive = sturdy.
Common knowledge the 360's lack of reliability (on number 4 myself). That article was quite balanced and fair.
I concur. Each of the three main consoles out today have their pros and cons. I would buy a PS3 if it were much less expensive as I find it out of proportion to spend near 400.00 euros to purchase it when I can get a Wii or Xbox 360 for about 55% of that in terms of price. The PS3 is too expensive to take on the other two consoles in the price wars. Period. That Sony also created rootkit DRM is another reason why I won't buy Sony products.
The Xbox 360 has some well documented quality control issues (ex. RRoD). This is simply shoddy quality and there really isn't much that can be said to genuinely negate that point. That the Xbox 360 is a more popular selling console than the PS3 and has had a good deal of success with many exclusive titles is also something that can't genuinely be denied empirically speaking.
The Wii wins the market share race hands down so far. It may use less advanced technology yet it does seem to be built like a rock - I'm sure any product will have some defective units but personally I haven't yet heard of anyone having massive issues with their Wii. That the Wii has intentionally been marketed to a more casual gaming crowd also seems to have influenced the games that are released for it which do not seem to be to the taste of a number of other gamers, myself included (they might be a lot of fun during social gatherings though).
I personally didn't find the Sony fellow's comments to be over-the-top vindictive nor particularly filled with vitriol. His comments seemed quite sober and though he did criticize the lack of build quality in a certain console he didn't mention any names yet it seems a good portion of us in here immediately equated that with MS and the Xbox 360 (there's a reason for that) yet he also went on to praise both Nintendo and MS for what they've each accomplished separately. Take it for what it's worth; it doesn't change the current market standings - if anything it's his summary interpretation of the current state of the console market.
have you said this before
Indeed I have and I continue to stand by my convictions on the various points. That said, I find it highly ironic that you of all people on this thread are commenting on repeating previous comments, *Crimbo*.
The PS3 is too expensive to take on the other two consoles in the price wars. Period. That Sony also created rootkit DRM is another reason why I won't buy Sony products.
So what you're saying is even if Sony were to start selling PS3's for Ł100 you wouldn't buy one? In effect the price is irrelevant to you?
Essentially yes though the price point does matter if it crosses a certain thresh hold. Under different circumstances it wouldn't be but sadly that is the case. I would much rather that Sony hadn't released the vile DRM crap on the world, and believe it or not I am actually tempted to buy a PS3 from time to time. Ah well. Maybe someday the DRM idiocy will go the way of so many other moronic blunders by big companies and Sony and I can make up.
Plus you still havent enlightened my addled brain on the daily Sony bashing by MSoft.
Some idiot fanboy rattles off a pile of rubbish and you reply in the typical idiot fanboy fashion or posting a link to some half baked story that you think backs up your views. Totally bloody sad. I'm not bothered if you think Microsoft are whiter than white. Anyone that regularly reads these articles knows they're more than able to sling mud. It's a shame you seem totally oblivious to it.
Wrong, wrong, wrong on so many levels. The article that lonewolf linked to was from 1UP, a site that I visit frequently as I have said on this site before. The author of said article is Shane Bettenhausen, who is quite possibly the biggest Sony Fanboy on the internet (but still a good giy, he alledgedly buys a 360 every Monday, takes it into the office and sh*ts on it). He is so pro Sony whenever he is writing or talking on a 1UP podcast that if he writes an article saying that Sony could be doing things better, then it's certainhly not 'half baked'. You seem to take the moral high ground an awful lot Voodoo maybe you should be better informed before you start commenting on things, in other words practise what your signature preaches.
Lol, if you read my posts properly I didnt say it had a lack of games. I actually said games that I would play.
Also why would I want the most expensive console of this generation that I own fail? Madness just like your amusing posts me old fruity.
No, no. You've been waffling about a lack of games and comparing PSN to XBL for a long time. That you offer a red rose does not hide the machete you are preparing to plunge into Sony's back by constantly favouring the X360.
In your case, you are much like many others who own all three or 2 / 3 consoles this generation. You see the X360 suddenly get a price drop and make additional sales, so you think the PS3 must follow suit. You're wrong. The Wii is more expensive than the X360 yet people buy the Wii. Why? They want the Wii - they don't really want the X360.
THE PRICE DOES NOT MATTER.
X360 : The X360 has nowhere to go beyond 2009 / 2010. The hardware is shoddy and while it has some good games, they are not good enough to match the exclusives on the Wii...
Wii : The Wii also has nowhere to go, but remains incredibly popular thanks to some great Nintendo exclusives - that even I'm buying. The Wii will always be MORE popular than the X360, whatever the price. The public can and will pay for it.
PS3 : The PS3 is a completely different animal to the aforementioned two. 2008 is the year the PS3 really kicked off. Blu-ray is entering the mainstream. Trophies, voice chat, custom soundtracks and Home integration are all now possible with the console. PlayTV, DS3, an official keypad and headset have all been introduced. More exclusives games are being worked on and 3rd party support has not only been won - but has been invested in - so that Home, voice chat, custom soundtracks and trophies will be worked on by 3rd parties. In 2009 we will see support for 3D games and movies and other 'ideas' that cannot and will not happen on any other console - except for those in the next generation - maybe... and when will that be and how long will it take to establish itself?
The PS3 is to a degree "future proof" in that as a system, it is, can and will continue to improve. Blu-ray disc capacity will grow, the firmware will continue to be updated, new features such as 3D and more peripherals will be added to ensure the system may continue to grow and expand over it's 9 year life span.
The PS3 has opened doors in 2008. Turning and hating on it now is pointless for anyone who owns one. Instead, owners should try to see what Sony is planning. The move to HD doesn't happen overnight, it was never going to. On that point it becomes clear the X360 is not a HD console.
In summary, the PS3 is a better machine than the X360 and so deserves the higher price. Thanks to added functionality, the PS3 will continue to merit that value.
Lol, if you read my posts properly I didnt say it had a lack of games. I actually said games that I would play.
Also why would I want the most expensive console of this generation that I own fail? Madness just like your amusing posts me old fruity.
No, no. You've been waffling about a lack of games and comparing PSN to XBL for a long time. That you offer a red rose does not hide the machete you are preparing to plunge into Sony's back by constantly favouring the X360.
In your case, you are much like many others who own all three or 2 / 3 consoles this generation. You see the X360 suddenly get a price drop and make additional sales, so you think the PS3 must follow suit. You're wrong. The Wii is more expensive than the X360 yet people buy the Wii. Why? They want the Wii - they don't really want the X360.
THE PRICE DOES NOT MATTER.
X360 : The X360 has nowhere to go beyond 2009 / 2010. The hardware is shoddy and while it has some good games, they are not good enough to match the exclusives on the Wii...
Wii : The Wii also has nowhere to go, but remains incredibly popular thanks to some great Nintendo exclusives - that even I'm buying. The Wii will always be MORE popular than the X360, whatever the price. The public can and will pay for it.
PS3 : The PS3 is a completely different animal to the aforementioned two. 2008 is the year the PS3 really kicked off. Blu-ray is entering the mainstream. Trophies, voice chat, custom soundtracks and Home integration are all now possible with the console. PlayTV, DS3, an official keypad and headset have all been introduced. More exclusives games are being worked on and 3rd party support has not only been won - but has been invested in - so that Home, voice chat, custom soundtracks and trophies will be worked on by 3rd parties. In 2009 we will see support for 3D games and movies and other 'ideas' that cannot and will not happen on any other console - except for those in the next generation - maybe... and when will that be and how long will it take to establish itself?
The PS3 is to a degree "future proof" in that as a system, it is, can and will continue to improve. Blu-ray disc capacity will grow, the firmware will continue to be updated, new features such as 3D and more peripherals will be added to ensure the system may continue to grow and expand over it's 9 year life span.
The PS3 has opened doors in 2008. Turning and hating on it now is pointless for anyone who owns one. Instead, owners should try to see what Sony is planning. The move to HD doesn't happen overnight, it was never going to. On that point it becomes clear the X360 is not a HD console.
In summary, the PS3 is a better machine than the X360 and so deserves the higher price. Thanks to added functionality, the PS3 will continue to merit that value.
Lol, if you read my posts properly I didnt say it had a lack of games. I actually said games that I would play.
Also why would I want the most expensive console of this generation that I own fail? Madness just like your amusing posts me old fruity.
No, no. You've been waffling about a lack of games and comparing PSN to XBL for a long time. That you offer a red rose does not hide the machete you are preparing to plunge into Sony's back by constantly favouring the X360.
In your case, you are much like many others who own all three or 2 / 3 consoles this generation. You see the X360 suddenly get a price drop and make additional sales, so you think the PS3 must follow suit. You're wrong. The Wii is more expensive than the X360 yet people buy the Wii. Why? They want the Wii - they don't really want the X360.
THE PRICE DOES NOT MATTER.
X360 : The X360 has nowhere to go beyond 2009 / 2010. The hardware is shoddy and while it has some good games, they are not good enough to match the exclusives on the Wii...
Wii : The Wii also has nowhere to go, but remains incredibly popular thanks to some great Nintendo exclusives - that even I'm buying. The Wii will always be MORE popular than the X360, whatever the price. The public can and will pay for it.
PS3 : The PS3 is a completely different animal to the aforementioned two. 2008 is the year the PS3 really kicked off. Blu-ray is entering the mainstream. Trophies, voice chat, custom soundtracks and Home integration are all now possible with the console. PlayTV, DS3, an official keypad and headset have all been introduced. More exclusives games are being worked on and 3rd party support has not only been won - but has been invested in - so that Home, voice chat, custom soundtracks and trophies will be worked on by 3rd parties. In 2009 we will see support for 3D games and movies and other 'ideas' that cannot and will not happen on any other console - except for those in the next generation - maybe... and when will that be and how long will it take to establish itself?
The PS3 is to a degree "future proof" in that as a system, it is, can and will continue to improve. Blu-ray disc capacity will grow, the firmware will continue to be updated, new features such as 3D and more peripherals will be added to ensure the system may continue to grow and expand over it's 9 year life span.
The PS3 has opened doors in 2008. Turning and hating on it now is pointless for anyone who owns one. Instead, owners should try to see what Sony is planning. The move to HD doesn't happen overnight, it was never going to. On that point it becomes clear the X360 is not a HD console.
In summary, the PS3 is a better machine than the X360 and so deserves the higher price. Thanks to added functionality, the PS3 will continue to merit that value.
You forgot to add 'in your opinion'.
I dont know who put's me off getting a PS3 more, Crimbo, Suivaloom or you? All 3 of you have unique, annoying and obnoxious qualities that makes it hard to decide who is the worst out of a bad bunch. If you hope to 'convert' potential PS3 owners with your rantings, your failing miserably, in my opinion anyway. Can't you justgo and play and enjoy LBP and Resistance? What's troubling you?
Damn, there's a LOT of sh*t in this thread, A LOT, but the biggest load of crud is that the PS3, 360 or Wii don't have decent games. All three have some great games, and the mere fact that you may believe otherwise merely illustrates where your loyalties lie.
A loyalty that should be towards the games, not the console you play those on...
Pffft, they never cease to amaze me with their stupidity do old Sony.
The 360 certainly has some reliability issues but for Sony to point that out is a bit like somebody pointng out that the person whooping their ass is a paraplegic.
Embarrassing for MS, but even more so for Sony who are being reduced to ashes by this "shoddy console".
Plus you still havent enlightened my addled brain on the daily Sony bashing by MSoft.
Some idiot fanboy rattles off a pile of rubbish and you reply in the typical idiot fanboy fashion or posting a link to some half baked story that you think backs up your views. Totally bloody sad. I'm not bothered if you think Microsoft are whiter than white. Anyone that regularly reads these articles knows they're more than able to sling mud. It's a shame you seem totally oblivious to it.
Wrong, wrong, wrong on so many levels. The article that lonewolf linked to was from 1UP, a site that I visit frequently as I have said on this site before. The author of said article is Shane Bettenhausen, who is quite possibly the biggest Sony Fanboy on the internet (but still a good giy, he alledgedly buys a 360 every Monday, takes it into the office and sh*ts on it). He is so pro Sony whenever he is writing or talking on a 1UP podcast that if he writes an article saying that Sony could be doing things better, then it's certainhly not 'half baked'. You seem to take the moral high ground an awful lot Voodoo maybe you should be better informed before you start commenting on things, in other words practise what your signature preaches.
I also visit 1up regualarly (obviously) and I find them and CVG among the most unbiased sites out there oh and play.tm (although they do call the ps3 "Sony's sexy breadbin" so certain people from here shouldnt visit the site)too.
Lol, if you read my posts properly I didnt say it had a lack of games. I actually said games that I would play.
Also why would I want the most expensive console of this generation that I own fail? Madness just like your amusing posts me old fruity.
No, no. You've been waffling about a lack of games and comparing PSN to XBL for a long time. That you offer a red rose does not hide the machete you are preparing to plunge into Sony's back by constantly favouring the X360.
In your case, you are much like many others who own all three or 2 / 3 consoles this generation. You see the X360 suddenly get a price drop and make additional sales, so you think the PS3 must follow suit. You're wrong. The Wii is more expensive than the X360 yet people buy the Wii. Why? They want the Wii - they don't really want the X360.
THE PRICE DOES NOT MATTER.
X360 : The X360 has nowhere to go beyond 2009 / 2010. The hardware is shoddy and while it has some good games, they are not good enough to match the exclusives on the Wii...
Wii : The Wii also has nowhere to go, but remains incredibly popular thanks to some great Nintendo exclusives - that even I'm buying. The Wii will always be MORE popular than the X360, whatever the price. The public can and will pay for it.
PS3 : The PS3 is a completely different animal to the aforementioned two. 2008 is the year the PS3 really kicked off. Blu-ray is entering the mainstream. Trophies, voice chat, custom soundtracks and Home integration are all now possible with the console. PlayTV, DS3, an official keypad and headset have all been introduced. More exclusives games are being worked on and 3rd party support has not only been won - but has been invested in - so that Home, voice chat, custom soundtracks and trophies will be worked on by 3rd parties. In 2009 we will see support for 3D games and movies and other 'ideas' that cannot and will not happen on any other console - except for those in the next generation - maybe... and when will that be and how long will it take to establish itself?
The PS3 is to a degree "future proof" in that as a system, it is, can and will continue to improve. Blu-ray disc capacity will grow, the firmware will continue to be updated, new features such as 3D and more peripherals will be added to ensure the system may continue to grow and expand over it's 9 year life span.
The PS3 has opened doors in 2008. Turning and hating on it now is pointless for anyone who owns one. Instead, owners should try to see what Sony is planning. The move to HD doesn't happen overnight, it was never going to. On that point it becomes clear the X360 is not a HD console.
In summary, the PS3 is a better machine than the X360 and so deserves the higher price. Thanks to added functionality, the PS3 will continue to merit that value.
You forgot to add 'in your opinion'.
I dont know who put's me off getting a PS3 more, Crimbo, Suivaloom or you? All 3 of you have unique, annoying and obnoxious qualities that makes it hard to decide who is the worst out of a bad bunch. If you hope to 'convert' potential PS3 owners with your rantings, your failing miserably, in my opinion anyway. Can't you justgo and play and enjoy LBP and Resistance? What's troubling you?
All 3 of them make me laugh. I think they are really 360 fanboys trying to put off potential PS3 purchasers by saying this is what you will turn into should you get one.
I dont know who put's me off getting a PS3 more, Crimbo, Suivaloom or you? All 3 of you have unique, annoying and obnoxious qualities that makes it hard to decide who is the worst out of a bad bunch. If you hope to 'convert' potential PS3 owners with your rantings, your failing miserably, in my opinion anyway. Can't you justgo and play and enjoy LBP and Resistance? What's troubling you?
To be fair StonecoldMC - nothing is troubling me. It really shouldn't matter to you what anyone on this forum says. If it troubles you so - leave? No-one forces you to read these posts and the only thing you might stand to gain by responding to the likes of me is to get more people on your friends list - if that's what you want. Again, no-one is forcing you and if that's not your bag, hey, so be it.
Perhaps you just hate that by buying a PS3, you think you'd somehow be giving in to the PS3 fan's on this forum? If that's what it is - think carefully. Owning a console is about getting entertainment and enjoyment from it. You don't stand to enjoy games, blu-ray's or anything else more / less because of what anyone on here says. By getting a PS3, all you're doing is giving yourself more choice of entertainment.
Frankly, you could take some advice from _Marty_'s pro-X360 style of posting... We disagree all the time and I can live with it if he never gets a PS3 - even though I may never get to play him online at anything, but at least he sees the fun in these debates.
That's what this is all about. I'm not sorry if you don't see it.
You seem to take the moral high ground an awful lot Voodoo maybe you should be better informed before you start commenting on things, in other words practise what your signature preaches.
How about you practicing what you preach? Would be a nice start before you go lecturing anyone else.
you have unique, annoying and obnoxious qualities that makes it hard to decide who is the worst out of a bad bunch.
Lol, if you read my posts properly I didnt say it had a lack of games. I actually said games that I would play.
Also why would I want the most expensive console of this generation that I own fail? Madness just like your amusing posts me old fruity.
No, no. You've been waffling about a lack of games and comparing PSN to XBL for a long time. That you offer a red rose does not hide the machete you are preparing to plunge into Sony's back by constantly favouring the X360.
In your case, you are much like many others who own all three or 2 / 3 consoles this generation. You see the X360 suddenly get a price drop and make additional sales, so you think the PS3 must follow suit. You're wrong. The Wii is more expensive than the X360 yet people buy the Wii. Why? They want the Wii - they don't really want the X360.
THE PRICE DOES NOT MATTER.
X360 : The X360 has nowhere to go beyond 2009 / 2010. The hardware is shoddy and while it has some good games, they are not good enough to match the exclusives on the Wii...
Wii : The Wii also has nowhere to go, but remains incredibly popular thanks to some great Nintendo exclusives - that even I'm buying. The Wii will always be MORE popular than the X360, whatever the price. The public can and will pay for it.
PS3 : The PS3 is a completely different animal to the aforementioned two. 2008 is the year the PS3 really kicked off. Blu-ray is entering the mainstream. Trophies, voice chat, custom soundtracks and Home integration are all now possible with the console. PlayTV, DS3, an official keypad and headset have all been introduced. More exclusives games are being worked on and 3rd party support has not only been won - but has been invested in - so that Home, voice chat, custom soundtracks and trophies will be worked on by 3rd parties. In 2009 we will see support for 3D games and movies and other 'ideas' that cannot and will not happen on any other console - except for those in the next generation - maybe... and when will that be and how long will it take to establish itself?
The PS3 is to a degree "future proof" in that as a system, it is, can and will continue to improve. Blu-ray disc capacity will grow, the firmware will continue to be updated, new features such as 3D and more peripherals will be added to ensure the system may continue to grow and expand over it's 9 year life span.
The PS3 has opened doors in 2008. Turning and hating on it now is pointless for anyone who owns one. Instead, owners should try to see what Sony is planning. The move to HD doesn't happen overnight, it was never going to. On that point it becomes clear the X360 is not a HD console.
In summary, the PS3 is a better machine than the X360 and so deserves the higher price. Thanks to added functionality, the PS3 will continue to merit that value.
Damn, there's a LOT of sh*t in this thread, A LOT, but the biggest load of crud is that the PS3, 360 or Wii don't have decent games. All three have some great games, and the mere fact that you may believe otherwise merely illustrates where your loyalties lie.
A loyalty that should be towards the games, not the console you play those on...
Exactly and I hope to god that has been made clear in a couple of my posts.
As for my words on the quantity of games for any system that is in regards to titles that I want to play not actual amounts of software available.
Omg its official the Wii is evil taken from maxconsole quoting The Sun:
UK Tabloid The Sun reports that the Wii is responsible for putting 10 people in UK hospitals per week. A rheumatology consultant has warned that there has been a 100 percent increase in complaints of Wii-itis and this could lead to arthritis in later life.
quote:
A rheumatology consultant said: “Most are admitted after playing the tennis and running games which involve sudden movements and violent tendon stretching.”
Dr Dev Mukerjee, of Broomfield Hospital, Chelmsford, Essex, said: “There has been a 100 per cent increase in patients complaining of Wii-itis.
“I’ve seen many patients aged between eight and 13 — and I’ve seen adults.
“It’s possible that Wii-itus may lead to rheumatism and arthritis in later life. Patients often have inflammation of the shoulder or wrist.”
Others have a ligament injury dubbed Wii-knee which some have blamed on the popular Wii-Fit game.
Hows me pitying you being enraged? You cannot back up anything you have said. Yet are the first to ask for proof when people say bad things about the PS3. Now again by your snide literacy comment it shows how you cannot handle an adult debate. Again I really do pity you. Sad really
EDIT in bold: I thought you said you wasn't enraged but now say that.
Learn to read man... doesn't surprise me to see you quoting the Sun.
Hows me pitying you being enraged? You cannot back up anything you have said. Yet are the first to ask for proof when people say bad things about the PS3. Now again by your snide literacy comment it shows how you cannot handle an adult debate. Again I really do pity you. Sad really
EDIT in bold: I thought you said you wasn't enraged but now say that.
Learn to read man... doesn't surprise me to see you quoting the Sun.
Well I didn't quote The Sun I quoted MaxConsole who quoted The Sun. Maybe you should join me in those literacy classes eh.
Am I being thick about all of this now? The flu really doesnt help when trying to figure this stuff out.
Or do you really think I'm an arsehole in which case you'll have to get to the back of the queue like everyone else.
Not just now.
There's a queue? I'll be sure to remind you some other time then.
A bloody long one but thats still way shorter than the "I hate you" queue.
Lord's don't queue.
I don't queue.
Well I'm sure that being a Lord and all you would have a little man to queue for you. See unfortunately Lord or not there is a no queue jumping policy with no exceptions.
I think he sounds a little frustrated within Sony as much as anything, when he talks about the competitions online and Advertising!!
As for the failure rates, I think it was more to justify the price they want to charge as opposed to slagging off the competition, read the full article on MVC.
I think he sounds a little frustrated within Sony as much as anything, when he talks about the competitions online and Advertising!!
As for the failure rates, I think it was more to justify the price they want to charge as opposed to slagging off the competition, read the full article on MVC.
Must say advertisng for the PS3 from what little TV I watch seemed rather lacking. In the space of about 30 mins(I only usually watch about 1-2 hours of TV a week I find it too mind numbing) there was about 3-5 360 ads with only 1 for the PS3 and sorry to say that was to get one free with a mobile contract.
You sound like a particularly knowledgeable wiitard. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to explain to me how I can get my wii to output in HD? Picture looks really fuzzy and last-gen at the moment!
I use mine with a component cable. Sharpens the picture up no end. Well, I did until I got my 360, now it's used predominantly for playing my virtual console games.
@ WIIBOY101 i cannot wait till 1 2 years time when i can pull out GOW3 FF13 Heavy rain PROTOTYPE INFAMOUS so i can rub it into your faces. o yea n if BLU-RAY is a unwanted interface mayb you can explain why dark night and iorn man sold better on blu-ray than they did on dvd. if wii is the feature than why bring out HD tv's why bring out games like GOD OF WAR 3 or KILLZONE 2 we might aswell go back and have the old 8 bit graphics mario and sonic thats your idea of inovation that count me out im freezing time and staying in 2009 4ever serioisly grow a brain you say we need a education well mayb in 1 years time once im finished my programming degree and become a games deleloper than you can give me my needed education and i can give you yours ayy sound good??
Sony is trying everything in the book. first they talk about Cell, then they push Bluray down our throats, now there talking about failure rates?. when the truth is maybe if the PS3 has some triple A games that millions of gamers wanted to play, then maybe we'd all go out and buy PS3s?, but the fact is, the PS3 could have diamonds and pearls build inside of it with gold trims, and it will still be in last place in the market due to its high price and poor software selection.
there talking about failure rates, which is a dead subject. if they kept up with the market news, they'd have know that Microsoft released the Jasper 360 chipsets at the end of 2007 over a year ago. there hasn't been any complaints about 360 hardware for a very long time now.
Sony sound like sour grapes, and in fact who's really listening to them?
You seem to take the moral high ground an awful lot Voodoo maybe you should be better informed before you start commenting on things, in other words practise what your signature preaches.
How about you practicing what you preach? Would be a nice start before you go lecturing anyone else.
you have unique, annoying and obnoxious qualities that makes it hard to decide who is the worst out of a bad bunch.
OK, so I used the words unique, annoying and obnoxious to describe 3 of the biggest Fanboy's on this site and I am taking the moral high ground? Sure I am.
Do you want to know something? You use icon more than anyone else on this site and I think that says an awful lot about you more than the other people who comment here.
Go on, reply by just doing that , you know you want too.
@ WIIBOY101 i cannot wait till 1 2 years time when i can pull out GOW3 FF13 Heavy rain PROTOTYPE INFAMOUS so i can rub it into your faces. o yea n if BLU-RAY is a unwanted interface mayb you can explain why dark night and iorn man sold better on blu-ray than they did on dvd. if wii is the feature than why bring out HD tv's why bring out games like GOD OF WAR 3 or KILLZONE 2 we might aswell go back and have the old 8 bit graphics mario and sonic thats your idea of inovation that count me out im freezing time and staying in 2009 4ever serioisly grow a brain you say we need a education well mayb in 1 years time once im finished my programming degree and become a games deleloper than you can give me my needed education and i can give you yours ayy sound good??
"Posted by wiiboy101 how can sony talk build quality there own build quality is awful ps2 still to this day is officially the most returned and complained electrical consumer device on earth FACT
also ps2s install base was FAKE there was never 100million ps2s userbase as 40% of them broke down ps2s build quality is simply awful as is psps ps3 isbetter but still fails to live upto nintendos high build quality standards
nintendo has the console war won END OF STORY"
I've worked for the computer games industry through N64 era to now. There PS2 issues were never as bad as those with the 360. I think the Nintendo has the console war won in terms of sales, but as a games fan i've found it the most disappointing console for years. Warioware, Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart are the only games I've really enjoyed.
Care to provide actual empirical evidence that Nintendo has only had pure profit during it's roughly 100 years of existence? That's a mighty bold claim, yet if it is true you should have little trouble proving it with verifiable data and figures, hmm?
There's no disputing that the Wii has been a massive success but you are living in LaLa Land if you think that the Wii has better graphics and greater hardware capabilities than the Xbox 360 and the PS3. However, if you enjoy the games that are available on it then it shouldn't really matter much to you what the other consoles can do. Regardless, your long rant (which I've cut short to spare readers increasingly long re-reads of past quotes,) smacks of extreme fanboy-ism and that's a "FACT" you can take with Wii cookies and koolade.
You seem to take the moral high ground an awful lot Voodoo maybe you should be better informed before you start commenting on things, in other words practise what your signature preaches.
How about you practicing what you preach? Would be a nice start before you go lecturing anyone else.
you have unique, annoying and obnoxious qualities that makes it hard to decide who is the worst out of a bad bunch.
OK, so I used the words unique, annoying and obnoxious to describe 3 of the biggest Fanboy's on this site and I am taking the moral high ground? Sure I am.
Do you want to know something? You use icon more than anyone else on this site and I think that says an awful lot about you more than the other people who comment here.
Go on, reply by just doing that , you know you want too.
He is throwing his own idiosyncrasies around to everyone else this weekend. I believe MSoft is whiter that white apparently yet all I see Vd do is defend Sony and will not have anything negative said against them well unless you provide proof anyway but even thats wrong apparently when you do provide it. Although it is perfectly ok for him to have digs at the 360 as and when he feels like it and not provide any proof. Says it all.
OK, so I used the words unique, annoying and obnoxious to describe 3 of the biggest Fanboy's on this site and I am taking the moral high ground? Sure I am.
Do you want to know something? You use icon more than anyone else on this site and I think that says an awful lot about you more than the other people who comment here.
Go on, reply by just doing that , you know you want too.
You're just as big a fanboy, at least they're entertaining.
OK, so I used the words unique, annoying and obnoxious to describe 3 of the biggest Fanboy's on this site and I am taking the moral high ground? Sure I am.
Do you want to know something? You use icon more than anyone else on this site and I think that says an awful lot about you more than the other people who comment here.
Go on, reply by just doing that , you know you want too.
You're just as big a fanboy, at least they're entertaining.
Yeah thats right, entertaining . Did you see what I did there? Big and clever, arent I?
If I am a Fanboy then it is being a Fan of games, that simple and that's why I visit this site. I know that when I visit this site next week you will be here to correct all spelling, grammar and punctuation, imply the Western Media is in cahouts with MS and are out to take over the world and of course defend Sony at all costs no matter what the subject or thread.
Oh, and you will of course hit the key, roughly 33 times this week.
Ok that was wrong word it was MSoft and saying they have did nothing but dig at Sony every day about 2 or so weeks ago.
You can't even get it right!
Oh I made a mistake well sorry for not being a perfect expert like yourself.
While we are at it can you show me my supposed posts that I paint MSoft whiter than white and I am their biggest fan. Oh and the ones where my views on the PS3 where it says I reckon it should have lower sales than 360 because thats my view.
If I am a Fanboy then it is being a Fan of games, that simple and that's why I visit this site. I know that when I visit this site next week you will be here to correct all spelling, grammar and punctuation, imply the Western Media is in cahouts with MS and are out to take over the world and of course defend Sony at all costs no matter what the subject or thread.
Oh, and you will of course hit the key, roughly 33 times this week.
yeah you're just a fan of games keep telling yourself that. I'm sure there will be a store about evil Sony next week that you can troll and lets us know how they've ruined your life. Away and catch yourself on.
Oh I made a mistake well sorry for not being a perfect expert like yourself.
While we are at it can you show me my supposed posts that I paint MSoft whiter than white and I am their biggest fan. Oh and the ones where my views on the PS3 where it says I reckon it should have lower sales than 360 because thats my view.
any wonder I use so often! Like StonecoldMC you think everyone takes you seriously when just like StonecoldMC you're as big a tool as the rest of us.
Ok that was wrong word it was MSoft and saying they have did nothing but dig at Sony every day about 2 or so weeks ago.
You can't even get it right!
Oh I made a mistake well sorry for not being a perfect expert like yourself.
While we are at it can you show me my supposed posts that I paint MSoft whiter than white and I am their biggest fan. Oh and the ones where my views on the PS3 where it says I reckon it should have lower sales than 360 because thats my view.
Oh I made a mistake well sorry for not being a perfect expert like yourself.
While we are at it can you show me my supposed posts that I paint MSoft whiter than white and I am their biggest fan. Oh and the ones where my views on the PS3 where it says I reckon it should have lower sales than 360 because thats my view.
any wonder I use so often! Like StonecoldMC you think everyone takes you seriously when just like StonecoldMC you're as big a tool as the rest of us.
What the hell are you jabbering on about? I asked for proof to your claims about me and my views (you being the expert you are). Now you are the expert on me again by saying I think everyone should take me seiously?
Say hi to the back of your teeth whilst your in there eh?
Oh and yes we are all tools just some of us are useful.
No Sony its not just reliable hardware its a about fighting for exclusive software eg tekken 6, final fantasy 13, gta 4 if they fought for these games the would of sold millions of consoles. So its about software as well
What the hell are you jabbering on about? I asked for proof to your claims about me and my views (you being the expert you are). Now you are the expert on me again by saying I think everyone should take me seiously?
Say hi to the back of your teeth whilst your in there eh?
Oh and yes we are all tools just some of us are useful.
temper temper and you know what they say about self praise.
If I am a Fanboy then it is being a Fan of games, that simple and that's why I visit this site. I know that when I visit this site next week you will be here to correct all spelling, grammar and punctuation, imply the Western Media is in cahouts with MS and are out to take over the world and of course defend Sony at all costs no matter what the subject or thread.
Oh, and you will of course hit the key, roughly 33 times this week.
yeah you're just a fan of games keep telling yourself that. I'm sure there will be a store about evil Sony next week that you can troll and lets us know how they've ruined your life. Away and catch yourself on.
Of course your right, how can I be a Fan of games? I obviously troll through any negative Sony stories and try to stir it up by posting about how 'Sony runied my life.' I do that as often as you do this and crimbo's favourite game is Halo 3.
What the hell are you jabbering on about? I asked for proof to your claims about me and my views (you being the expert you are). Now you are the expert on me again by saying I think everyone should take me seiously?
Say hi to the back of your teeth whilst your in there eh?
Oh and yes we are all tools just some of us are useful.
temper temper and you know what they say about self praise.
Why do you think that you are important enough for me to lose my temper over?
Still waiting for you to show me my very pro MSoft posts and the ones where I want the PS3 to sell less than the other consoles.
Or are you so narcissistic that even though you cry for proof, you yourself can accuse people without backing it up with any.
See the problem is you lost your temper over my link to the NPD for some idiot who deserved the idiotic link. The idea was to bait him but instead you butted in for no reason and then threw around childish insults.
Now you are just floundering around like a fish out of water.
Ok that was wrong word it was MSoft and saying they have did nothing but dig at Sony every day about 2 or so weeks ago.
You can't even get it right!
Oh I made a mistake well sorry for not being a perfect expert like yourself.
While we are at it can you show me my supposed posts that I paint MSoft whiter than white and I am their biggest fan. Oh and the ones where my views on the PS3 where it says I reckon it should have lower sales than 360 because thats my view.
lonewolf2002 you are a xbot
nuff said
Please god let's hope this means he's going to shut the f**k up.
Ok that was wrong word it was MSoft and saying they have did nothing but dig at Sony every day about 2 or so weeks ago.
You can't even get it right!
Oh I made a mistake well sorry for not being a perfect expert like yourself.
While we are at it can you show me my supposed posts that I paint MSoft whiter than white and I am their biggest fan. Oh and the ones where my views on the PS3 where it says I reckon it should have lower sales than 360 because thats my view.
lonewolf2002 you are a xbot
nuff said
Please god let's hope this means he's going to shut the f**k up.
Of course your right, how can I be a Fan of games? I obviously troll through any negative Sony stories and try to stir it up by posting about how 'Sony runied my life.' I do that as often as you do this and crimbo's favourite game is Halo 3.
put your dummy back in and run along little man. I'm sure there will be some Microsoft announcement soon that will have your glass over flowing. If you weren't so boringly predictable about anyone saying anything even remotely positive about the PS3 maybe wouldn't be required so often.
Why do you think that you are important enough for me to lose my temper over?
Still waiting for you to show me my very pro MSoft posts and the ones where I want the PS3 to sell less than the other consoles.
Or are you so narcissistic that even though you cry for proof, you yourself can accuse people without backing it up with any.
See the problem is you lost your temper over my link to the NPD for some idiot who deserved the idiotic link. The idea was to bait him but instead you butted in for no reason and then threw around childish insults.
Now you are just floundering around like a fish out of water.
You really, really need to read back through a few of your previous posts. That's actually funny coming from a guy that's been made look a complete fool right through this post by Crimbo.
Why do you think that you are important enough for me to lose my temper over?
Still waiting for you to show me my very pro MSoft posts and the ones where I want the PS3 to sell less than the other consoles.
Or are you so narcissistic that even though you cry for proof, you yourself can accuse people without backing it up with any.
See the problem is you lost your temper over my link to the NPD for some idiot who deserved the idiotic link. The idea was to bait him but instead you butted in for no reason and then threw around childish insults.
Now you are just floundering around like a fish out of water.
You really, really need to read back through a few of your previous posts. That's actually funny coming from a guy that's been made look a complete fool right through this post by Crimbo.
Well at least I would need another person make me look the fool because unlike you I really cannot manage it on my own.
Frankly, you could take some advice from _Marty_'s pro-X360 style of posting... We disagree all the time and I can live with it if he never gets a PS3 - even though I may never get to play him online at anything, but at least he sees the fun in these debates.
I've no idea if this is a compliment or otherwise... But frankly, I am astounded this thread is STILL going on.
Frankly, you could take some advice from _Marty_'s pro-X360 style of posting... We disagree all the time and I can live with it if he never gets a PS3 - even though I may never get to play him online at anything, but at least he sees the fun in these debates.
I've no idea if this is a compliment or otherwise... But frankly, I am astounded this thread is STILL going on.
It's only dragging on becuase Voodoo cannot admit he was in the wrong.
Also yes that is a strange one from the Lord but I think he/she is mostly harmless.
I think you missed "CAPS LOCK KEY = DEAD" from your list.
You are the most annoying user I've seen on these forums. None of your posts add any value to these threads. I'm not sure why you have this agenda? Are you just trying to justify your console purchase as the "right" one?
FYI, PSP hardware sales are comparable to those of the Wii. It makes you look stupid calling everything dead.
Well at least I would need another person make me look the fool because unlike you I really cannot manage it on my own.
Read your posts, you've done a good job of it on your own.
Really wheres your proof quote them. At least I don't lose my temper over NPD figures that were linked to for an idiot to read. Instead I got 2 hitting the link for the price of one.
I think it is worth pointing out that as an owner of all 3 consoles, I have no real preference to Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo as a producer of consoles. All I am interested in is the games. I don't care about RROD, what PS3's failure rate is, how many consoles have been sold in each territory, any of that guff. I am a GAMER. I want to play good games. That is all.
Now taking that into account, as much as certain fanboys on here would like to argue (Wiiboy especially, please go back to that rock you crawled from under, it needs you more than we do) 360 has the best games and the largest catalogue of titles. PS3 had some good games this year as previously pointed out, but for starters it has been on sale a year less, and Sony have also treated it's core market with surprising arrogance this generation, been sloppy and as a result Microsoft have stolen a bit of a march, nicking a few PS exclusives etc.
On a technical level, I think the PS3 has more legs than 360, but in the here and now, Xbox is the better console for GAMES.
Wii... I don't include Wii. It isn't a 'traditional' console, and if you ask me Nintendo has sold it's soul for an easy buck in the casual market. The amount of shovelware on the system confirms that. There are games that still have that Nintendo magic, but they are the series that always have (Mario, Zelda), and only a handful of games worth having, from a developer of such pedigree on a console that sells so prolifically is a crime I doubt I will ever forgive them for.
I think it is worth pointing out that as an owner of all 3 consoles, I have no real preference to Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo as a producer of consoles. All I am interested in is the games. I don't care about RROD, what PS3's failure rate is, how many consoles have been sold in each territory, any of that guff. I am a GAMER. I want to play good games. That is all.
Now taking that into account, as much as certain fanboys on here would like to argue (Wiiboy especially, please go back to that rock you crawled from under, it needs you more than we do) 360 has the best games and the largest catalogue of titles. PS3 had some good games this year as previously pointed out, but for starters it has been on sale a year less, and Sony have also treated it's core market with surprising arrogance this generation, been sloppy and as a result Microsoft have stolen a bit of a march, nicking a few PS exclusives etc.
On a technical level, I think the PS3 has more legs than 360, but in the here and now, Xbox is the better console for GAMES.
Wii... I don't include Wii. It isn't a 'traditional' console, and if you ask me Nintendo has sold it's soul for an easy buck in the casual market. The amount of shovelware on the system confirms that. There are games that still have that Nintendo magic, but they are the series that always have (Mario, Zelda), and only a handful of games worth having, from a developer of such pedigree on a console that sells so prolifically is a crime I doubt I will ever forgive them for.
My thoughts exactly on the consoles as it stands now it could all change in the future.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
Can you all stop bitching. All the consoles have thier value.
The wii is great for parties, offline multi player. and has excellent 1st party games and some decent 3rd party support if you look hard enough for it. Pretty much everything capcom have released for it has been gold. For the first proper crack at motion controls they are rather good. If they can build upon them in the next gen then i think we are on for some really fun times ahead.
The 360 also has some fantastic exclusives and live is the best online service hands down. (Even if you do have to pay) The controller is the most comfortable conventional controller i've ever used. Its also quite a good hub for playing any films/music you've downloaded
The PS3 is a monster of a machine technically and as recent shots have shown really capable of producing top quality graphics. The blu ray player is also a nice addition as it allows developers to whack a lot more content onto the disc thus intheroy giving us bigger games. Being able to play movies in full 1080p is also a nice addition.
All three consoles i'd say have had a bit of a drought of exclusive support in the previous year. more so the PS3 and wii but it appears that its going to be righted this year.
f**k the pointless squabbling so long as we continue to find games we love and have fun on what ever your cnosole of choice is who gives a rats ass right.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
Of course you wont get fanboy/opposing views on a site dedicated to one platform .Close the door on the way out.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
Of course you wont get fanboy/opposing views on a site dedicated to one platform .Close the door on the way out.
well thats because, unlike yourself i dont get off on 'my c**ks bigger than yours arguments'... pathetic oaf!
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
Of course you wont get fanboy/opposing views on a site dedicated to one platform .Close the door on the way out.
well thats because, unlike yourself i dont get off on 'my c**ks bigger than yours arguments'... pathetic oaf!
No you just get off calling everyone c**ts and you say I get off on my c**ks bigger than yours arguements yet you have only read to page 4. I think you had better read some more pages before tarnishing me with your brush eh. Turn out the lights on the way to your new site.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
Actually, I think I turned up on Page 7...
I started on Page 2 with this:
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Yes but unfortunately all those gubbins put the price right out of reach for a lot of people. It's better now price wise but with the current financial climate I think they will struggle against the 360.
Both machines are good for what I want which is playing games and yes I do enjoy the extras the PS3 gives.
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
Actually, I think I turned up on Page 7...
I started on Page 2 with this:
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Yes but unfortunately all those gubbins put the price right out of reach for a lot of people. It's better now price wise but with the current financial climate I think they will struggle against the 360.
Both machines are good for what I want which is playing games and yes I do enjoy the extras the PS3 gives.
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
hit a nerve did i?? and its 'see' *grabs lonewolf2002's coat*
(is it just me, or is 'lonewolf' one of the most generic type of sigs on the planet?? it must of taken '2002' attempts just to get a successful one)
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
Unless a post is ENTIRELY neutral - and I mean, not even mentioning one or the other console - you are automatically labelled a 'fanboy' and will therefore get jumped on by the defence force of the 'opposing faction'. You suggested they would struggle against the 360 (whether in your opinion or otherwise), those that believe the Wii or PS3 is their god see this as blasphemy, and therefore jumped to its aid.
Probably best to just drop it and back away from this 10 page monster.
Also, whatever happened to Hollywood111? Dya think he's one of of those random profiles like Suivaloon etc?
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
Actually, I think I turned up on Page 7...
I started on Page 2 with this:
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Yes but unfortunately all those gubbins put the price right out of reach for a lot of people. It's better now price wise but with the current financial climate I think they will struggle against the 360.
Both machines are good for what I want which is playing games and yes I do enjoy the extras the PS3 gives.
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
hit a nerve did i?? and its 'see' *grabs lonewolf2002's coat*
(is it just me, or is 'lonewolf' one of the most generic type of sigs on the planet?? it must of taken '2002' attempts just to get a successful one)
lol
I thought you were leaving. Or can't you even get that right.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
Actually, I think I turned up on Page 7...
I started on Page 2 with this:
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Yes but unfortunately all those gubbins put the price right out of reach for a lot of people. It's better now price wise but with the current financial climate I think they will struggle against the 360.
Both machines are good for what I want which is playing games and yes I do enjoy the extras the PS3 gives.
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
hit a nerve did i?? and its 'see' *grabs lonewolf2002's coat*
(is it just me, or is 'lonewolf' one of the most generic type of sigs on the planet?? it must of taken '2002' attempts just to get a successful one)
lol
I thought you were leaving. Or can't you even get that right.
sorry i just felt compelled to point out your 'misgivings'
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
Actually, I think I turned up on Page 7...
I started on Page 2 with this:
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Yes but unfortunately all those gubbins put the price right out of reach for a lot of people. It's better now price wise but with the current financial climate I think they will struggle against the 360.
Both machines are good for what I want which is playing games and yes I do enjoy the extras the PS3 gives.
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
hit a nerve did i?? and its 'see' *grabs lonewolf2002's coat*
(is it just me, or is 'lonewolf' one of the most generic type of sigs on the planet?? it must of taken '2002' attempts just to get a successful one)
lol
I thought you were leaving. Or can't you even get that right.
sorry i just felt compelled to point out your 'misgivings'
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
Unless a post is ENTIRELY neutral - and I mean, not even mentioning one or the other console - you are automatically labelled a 'fanboy' and will therefore get jumped on by the defence force of the 'opposing faction'. You suggested they would struggle against the 360 (whether in your opinion or otherwise), those that believe the Wii or PS3 is their god see this as blasphemy, and therefore jumped to its aid.
Probably best to just drop it and back away from this 10 page monster.
Also, whatever happened to Hollywood111? Dya think he's one of of those random profiles like Suivaloon etc?
I could understand that more if I only owned a 360 and said it(even though it may be true).
As for the two that see the PS3 as their "god" One has hopefully gone to his "Gods" site and the other has learnt about what his sig means.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
Actually, I think I turned up on Page 7...
I started on Page 2 with this:
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Yes but unfortunately all those gubbins put the price right out of reach for a lot of people. It's better now price wise but with the current financial climate I think they will struggle against the 360.
Both machines are good for what I want which is playing games and yes I do enjoy the extras the PS3 gives.
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
hit a nerve did i?? and its 'see' *grabs lonewolf2002's coat*
(is it just me, or is 'lonewolf' one of the most generic type of sigs on the planet?? it must of taken '2002' attempts just to get a successful one)
lol
Well it maybe generic granted but I know it's not a bloody sig it's a username. Fail.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
Actually, I think I turned up on Page 7...
I started on Page 2 with this:
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Yes but unfortunately all those gubbins put the price right out of reach for a lot of people. It's better now price wise but with the current financial climate I think they will struggle against the 360.
Both machines are good for what I want which is playing games and yes I do enjoy the extras the PS3 gives.
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
hit a nerve did i?? and its 'see' *grabs lonewolf2002's coat*
(is it just me, or is 'lonewolf' one of the most generic type of sigs on the planet?? it must of taken '2002' attempts just to get a successful one)
lol
Well it maybe generic granted but I know it's not a bloody sig it's a username. Fail.
What a load of c*nts..all of YOU! (this has to be the most embarrassing 'thread' ive ever had the misfortune to read, and i only got to page 4!) Same old tired faces, sprouting the same old tired sh!t...im back off to the sixthaxis (where at least you get to have a proper discussion and NOT the usual 10 yr old fanboy trappings you get on this site) I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves
I feel proud that my only contribution was a 'pro games' one. Of course, had I not been on my Christmas do Friday I may well have had more to say. Ahem.
lol..well you must of been on page 5 then (as i said i couldnt be bottomd to read any more of the same old diatribe)
Actually, I think I turned up on Page 7...
I started on Page 2 with this:
I cannot believe there are STILL people saying the PS3 is overpriced. I have nothing against the 360 whatsoever, it's a great machine... but the PS3 has many, many more features and is a better built console, as well as a better all-in-one gaming/media centre. It's the old saying that you get what you pay for. You pay more for the PS3 for a good reason.
This has all been said before, but it looks like people need reminding AGAIN, so allow me to make a list. Things built into PS3 that either aren't available for 360, or require additional investment:
HD Movie Playback (and yes, people DO care about this, at least the ones who aren't living in the past or in denial about DVD quality) PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - additional cost (before HD DVD failed).
Online play and access to demos PS3 - Free for all users. Xbox 360 - Online play requires yearly subscription, as does access to the latest demos (the latter of which is an absolute disgrace).
Card Readers PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Hard Drive PS3 - Use of standard 2.5" drives allowed. Xbox 360 - Very costly proprietary hard drives.
Controller Charging PS3 - built in controller battery, standard mini USB cable included with console. Xbox 360 - battery packs at additional cost, proprietary charge cable at additional cost.
Reliability PS3 - included. Xbox 360 - not available.
Things you are allowed to do on PS3 that you are restricted from on Xbox 360: Backup saves. Install Linux. Transfer media files to the hard drive. Surf the web (with full flash and video support). Use any bluetooth headset. Use a keyboard and mouse.
PS3 is an all-inclusive media and gaming machine. Xbox 360 is not. That is why you pay more. Because you're getting more!
Yes but unfortunately all those gubbins put the price right out of reach for a lot of people. It's better now price wise but with the current financial climate I think they will struggle against the 360.
Both machines are good for what I want which is playing games and yes I do enjoy the extras the PS3 gives.
For some reason posting that in response to someone is me c**k waving according Seedface.
hit a nerve did i?? and its 'see' *grabs lonewolf2002's coat*
(is it just me, or is 'lonewolf' one of the most generic type of sigs on the planet?? it must of taken '2002' attempts just to get a successful one)
lol
Well it maybe generic granted but I know it's not a bloody sig it's a username. Fail.
*cringe*
You finally you admit you are an embarassment. Excellent
Anyway for someone who was going to another site to get away from all this you seem to enjoy it enough to linger and join in on it all. FAIL
You finally you admit you are an embarassment. Excellent
Anyway for someone who was going to another site to get away from all this you seem to enjoy it enough to linger and join in on it all. FAIL
Anymore contradictions before you go?
Temper temper child. Congratulations PS3 and Xbox owners actually agree that you're a tool. Well done.
What is with you keep thinking I am losing my temper just because you lost it publicly in this topic dont try and throw it on me like you have everything else.
PS3 and 360 owners think I'm a tool eh oh you mean you and seedboy. Hardly an impartial pair are you now. I see you still havent learnt a thing from your sig.
You finally you admit you are an embarassment. Excellent
Anyway for someone who was going to another site to get away from all this you seem to enjoy it enough to linger and join in on it all. FAIL
Anymore contradictions before you go?
Temper temper child. Congratulations PS3 and Xbox owners actually agree that you're a tool. Well done.
It seems that 'solitary lupus200+' (more original username/sig) doesn't understand that i was cringing due to his utterly predictable/embarrassing comebacks, and his use of the term 'fail'
You finally you admit you are an embarassment. Excellent
Anyway for someone who was going to another site to get away from all this you seem to enjoy it enough to linger and join in on it all. FAIL
Anymore contradictions before you go?
Temper temper child. Congratulations PS3 and Xbox owners actually agree that you're a tool. Well done.
It seems that 'solitary lupus200+' (more original username/sig) doesn't understand that i was cringing due to his utterly predictable/embarrassing comebacks, and his use of the term 'fail'
I wonder if he uses the term 'pwnd' as well?
sololupin would of been more apt and talking of embarassing comebacks here you are.
You finally you admit you are an embarassment. Excellent
Anyway for someone who was going to another site to get away from all this you seem to enjoy it enough to linger and join in on it all. FAIL
Anymore contradictions before you go?
Temper temper child. Congratulations PS3 and Xbox owners actually agree that you're a tool. Well done.
What is with you keep thinking I am losing my temper just because you lost it publicly in this topic dont try and throw it on me like you have everything else.
PS3 and 360 owners think I'm a tool eh oh you mean you and seedboy. Hardly an impartial pair are you now. I see you still havent learnt a thing from your sig.
You finally you admit you are an embarassment. Excellent
Anyway for someone who was going to another site to get away from all this you seem to enjoy it enough to linger and join in on it all. FAIL
Anymore contradictions before you go?
Temper temper child. Congratulations PS3 and Xbox owners actually agree that you're a tool. Well done.
What is with you keep thinking I am losing my temper just because you lost it publicly in this topic dont try and throw it on me like you have everything else.
PS3 and 360 owners think I'm a tool eh oh you mean you and seedboy. Hardly an impartial pair are you now. I see you still havent learnt a thing from your sig.
surely you mean 'username'
Why would I mean his username when his sig goes on about stop being a c**k.
You finally you admit you are an embarassment. Excellent
Anyway for someone who was going to another site to get away from all this you seem to enjoy it enough to linger and join in on it all. FAIL
Anymore contradictions before you go?
Temper temper child. Congratulations PS3 and Xbox owners actually agree that you're a tool. Well done.
What is with you keep thinking I am losing my temper just because you lost it publicly in this topic dont try and throw it on me like you have everything else.
PS3 and 360 owners think I'm a tool eh oh you mean you and seedboy. Hardly an impartial pair are you now. I see you still havent learnt a thing from your sig.
surely you mean 'username'
Why would I mean his username when his sig goes on about stop being a c**k.
You finally you admit you are an embarassment. Excellent
Anyway for someone who was going to another site to get away from all this you seem to enjoy it enough to linger and join in on it all. FAIL
Anymore contradictions before you go?
Temper temper child. Congratulations PS3 and Xbox owners actually agree that you're a tool. Well done.
What is with you keep thinking I am losing my temper just because you lost it publicly in this topic dont try and throw it on me like you have everything else.
PS3 and 360 owners think I'm a tool eh oh you mean you and seedboy. Hardly an impartial pair are you now. I see you still havent learnt a thing from your sig.
surely you mean 'username'
Why would I mean his username when his sig goes on about stop being a c**k.
QUICK someone call the 'making sense police' !
Ok I will have to spell it out for the little children (must be school holidays). His "Sig" says It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Which basically means shutup and stop being a c**k. Tomorrows lesson will be learning the difference between a username and a sig. I need your brain to rest up before that one though.
HAHAHA!! I love these silly article that folks give you links to. Believe me those folks that write surch article are just as silly as folks who believe in them. If you look at xbox360 sales after 2 years and you look at sony sales after 2 years. Sony has sold more consoles at a higher price. That is something that the link you gave me forgot to mention. Don't get me wrong MS has has some great titles. Which is why i purchase the 360. I just don't understand how the suppose to professional writer can writes such untrue statements and called themselves professionals. I for once just like for a writer to only state the facts in numbers. I don't need their opinion. I remember when oil price was a 141.00 a barrel and you had folks saying. (oh oil prices will never go back down. It will be at 200.00 a barrel by end of year). Guess what folks oil is under 40 a barrel. My point is folks will write whatever will sell, then tomorrow change their minds and write about what ever is hot. Trust me M$ is working on a new solution for the xbox right now. The last thing microsoft wants or need is software titles being 3 or 4 disk long forget about it folks. Wii is having a great ride. No doubt about that. But if you look around you can get a wii now. what really sucks about the wii. They are doing great on hardware sales. But at the end of the day M$ and Sony will own the software market. Folks who are purchasing the wii are the same folks who are purchasing the iphone. I have nothing against the iphone. I think it is a great device. But it's like the SUV market. Folks are purchasing one because it is cool and hard to come by. I know folks who own at least 2 out of the 3 console. By far the wii get played the least amount. I honestly don't think the wii sells are going to be go as they have been in the past 2 years. I honestly believe that 09 will be M$ and Sony year.
HAHAHA!! I love these silly article that folks give you links to. Believe me those folks that write surch article are just as silly as folks who believe in them. If you look at xbox360 sales after 2 years and you look at sony sales after 2 years. Sony has sold more consoles at a higher price. That is something that the link you gave me forgot to mention. Don't get me wrong MS has has some great titles. Which is why i purchase the 360. I just don't understand how the suppose to professional writer can writes such untrue statements and called themselves professionals. I for once just like for a writer to only state the facts in numbers. I don't need their opinion. I remember when oil price was a 141.00 a barrel and you had folks saying. (oh oil prices will never go back down. It will be at 200.00 a barrel by end of year). Guess what folks oil is under 40 a barrel. My point is folks will write whatever will sell, then tomorrow change their minds and write about what ever is hot. Trust me M$ is working on a new solution for the xbox right now. The last thing microsoft wants or need is software titles being 3 or 4 disk long forget about it folks. Wii is having a great ride. No doubt about that. But if you look around you can get a wii now. what really sucks about the wii. They are doing great on hardware sales. But at the end of the day M$ and Sony will own the software market. Folks who are purchasing the wii are the same folks who are purchasing the iphone. I have nothing against the iphone. I think it is a great device. But it's like the SUV market. Folks are purchasing one because it is cool and hard to come by. I know folks who own at least 2 out of the 3 console. By far the wii get played the least amount. I honestly don't think the wii sells are going to be go as they have been in the past 2 years. I honestly believe that 09 will be M$ and Sony year.
HAHAHA!! I love these silly article that folks give you links to. Believe me those folks that write surch article are just as silly as folks who believe in them. If you look at xbox360 sales after 2 years and you look at sony sales after 2 years. Sony has sold more consoles at a higher price. That is something that the link you gave me forgot to mention. Don't get me wrong MS has has some great titles. Which is why i purchase the 360. I just don't understand how the suppose to professional writer can writes such untrue statements and called themselves professionals. I for once just like for a writer to only state the facts in numbers. I don't need their opinion. I remember when oil price was a 141.00 a barrel and you had folks saying. (oh oil prices will never go back down. It will be at 200.00 a barrel by end of year). Guess what folks oil is under 40 a barrel. My point is folks will write whatever will sell, then tomorrow change their minds and write about what ever is hot. Trust me M$ is working on a new solution for the xbox right now. The last thing microsoft wants or need is software titles being 3 or 4 disk long forget about it folks. Wii is having a great ride. No doubt about that. But if you look around you can get a wii now. what really sucks about the wii. They are doing great on hardware sales. But at the end of the day M$ and Sony will own the software market. Folks who are purchasing the wii are the same folks who are purchasing the iphone. I have nothing against the iphone. I think it is a great device. But it's like the SUV market. Folks are purchasing one because it is cool and hard to come by. I know folks who own at least 2 out of the 3 console. By far the wii get played the least amount. I honestly don't think the wii sells are going to be go as they have been in the past 2 years. I honestly believe that 09 will be M$ and Sony year.
HAHAHA!! I love these silly article that folks give you links to. Believe me those folks that write surch article are just as silly as folks who believe in them. If you look at xbox360 sales after 2 years and you look at sony sales after 2 years. Sony has sold more consoles at a higher price. That is something that the link you gave me forgot to mention. Don't get me wrong MS has has some great titles. Which is why i purchase the 360. I just don't understand how the suppose to professional writer can writes such untrue statements and called themselves professionals. I for once just like for a writer to only state the facts in numbers. I don't need their opinion. I remember when oil price was a 141.00 a barrel and you had folks saying. (oh oil prices will never go back down. It will be at 200.00 a barrel by end of year). Guess what folks oil is under 40 a barrel. My point is folks will write whatever will sell, then tomorrow change their minds and write about what ever is hot. Trust me M$ is working on a new solution for the xbox right now. The last thing microsoft wants or need is software titles being 3 or 4 disk long forget about it folks. Wii is having a great ride. No doubt about that. But if you look around you can get a wii now. what really sucks about the wii. They are doing great on hardware sales. But at the end of the day M$ and Sony will own the software market. Folks who are purchasing the wii are the same folks who are purchasing the iphone. I have nothing against the iphone. I think it is a great device. But it's like the SUV market. Folks are purchasing one because it is cool and hard to come by. I know folks who own at least 2 out of the 3 console. By far the wii get played the least amount. I honestly don't think the wii sells are going to be go as they have been in the past 2 years. I honestly believe that 09 will be M$ and Sony year.
HAHAHA!! I love these silly article that folks give you links to. Believe me those folks that write surch article are just as silly as folks who believe in them. If you look at xbox360 sales after 2 years and you look at sony sales after 2 years. Sony has sold more consoles at a higher price. That is something that the link you gave me forgot to mention. Don't get me wrong MS has has some great titles. Which is why i purchase the 360. I just don't understand how the suppose to professional writer can writes such untrue statements and called themselves professionals. I for once just like for a writer to only state the facts in numbers. I don't need their opinion. I remember when oil price was a 141.00 a barrel and you had folks saying. (oh oil prices will never go back down. It will be at 200.00 a barrel by end of year). Guess what folks oil is under 40 a barrel. My point is folks will write whatever will sell, then tomorrow change their minds and write about what ever is hot. Trust me M$ is working on a new solution for the xbox right now. The last thing microsoft wants or need is software titles being 3 or 4 disk long forget about it folks. Wii is having a great ride. No doubt about that. But if you look around you can get a wii now. what really sucks about the wii. They are doing great on hardware sales. But at the end of the day M$ and Sony will own the software market. Folks who are purchasing the wii are the same folks who are purchasing the iphone. I have nothing against the iphone. I think it is a great device. But it's like the SUV market. Folks are purchasing one because it is cool and hard to come by. I know folks who own at least 2 out of the 3 console. By far the wii get played the least amount. I honestly don't think the wii sells are going to be go as they have been in the past 2 years. I honestly believe that 09 will be M$ and Sony year.
Good grief, is this thing STILL going on? *shakes head* You should all be embarrassed...
I am but until Voodoo apologises for calling me racist it wont ever stop.
You'll be waiting a long time bud. That self riteous loser's still narked at me for making glib remark about cripples months ago.
be the better man and move on.
Funny thing it wasn't a racist remark, I called Voodoo Monkey boy which for some strange reason he twisted into being racist. When I showed him in what context it should be taken in http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monkey_boy he called me a liar.
Funny thing it wasn't a racist remark, I called Voodoo Monkey boy which for some strange reason he twisted into being racist. When I showed him in what context it should be taken in http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monkey_boy he called me a liar.
yeah he'll do that. Mine was more a joke about statistics how other way can a fmaily have 2.5 children. i think you can guess the punch line.
Guys got no sense of context or humour. In short a complete spineless bottom hole.
Funny thing it wasn't a racist remark, I called Voodoo Monkey boy which for some strange reason he twisted into being racist. When I showed him in what context it should be taken in http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monkey_boy he called me a liar.
yeah he'll do that. Mine was more a joke about statistics how other way can a fmaily have 2.5 children. i think you can guess the punch line.
Guys got no sense of context or humour. In short a complete spineless bottom hole.
Yeah I remember that thread. Don't why he took offence as I dont think has a crippled body, brain yes, body no.
For the sake of it i think. You get the feeling he's one of those w****rs that gets off on being PC.
I don't the only thing Political correctness has done is made idiots run rampant and people too scared to say whats really on thier minds. If i offend i'm sorry. maybe you should be getting over your own insecurities and stop trying to look like a f**king martyr.
Is a bit of a touchy subject if you hadn't guessed.
sony whole company in big big trouble big lay offs
nintendo making simply insane clear cash profits on top of the biggest gaming war chest in the world and a 100 plus year faultless history of pure profit
EVEN SO MUCH AS TO EARN THE TITLE THE WORLDS BEST COMPANY EVER BY STOCK MARKET TYPES
NINTENDO IS LEGENDARY IN GLOBAL COMMERCE AS A EXAMPLE OF GREAT COMPANY RUNNING NO I HAVEN'T GONE MAD ITS ALL TRUE THEY ALSO WIN AWARDS FOR BUILD QUALITY...
sony fans microsoft fans i hate to rub salt in ur wounds but you people need an education
fact sony fans and gates worshipers all screamed nintendo going 3rd party
the nintendo fan responded nintendo is the gaming master A SLEEPING DRAGON she will one day awake
look what happened next DS AND Wii i rest my superior case
i cubeboy101 predicted wiis success 2 full years before it was shown i also invested in nintendo with cash from my late mothers will in anticipation of the stock explosion i was 99% sure would follow (nintendo shares) guess what i now live in a house i purchused cash with my win fall
no i aint making it up
nintendo lives and breaths GAME nintendo led the gaming innovation and standard that all others folow for the past 20 years
gameboy to gba nes to gamecube ALL PROFIT ALL INNOVATED PRODUCTS
JOYSTICKS REMEMBER THEM
WHO TOOK US AWAY FROM JOYSTICKLS AND TURNING NOBS NINTENDO DID
D-PAD BY NINTENDO
ANALOG STICK NINTENDO
RUMBLE NINTENDO
SHOULDER BUTTONS NINTENDO
MOTION NINTENDO
DUALSHOCK IS MADE UP OF NINTENDO INNOVATIONS
XPAD IS MADE UP OF NINTENDOS INNOVATIONS
EVERYTHING YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED ON A CONTROL PAD WAS GIVEN TO YOU THE GAMER BY
NIN - TEN-DO ITS NINTENDO WHO MAKE THE DUALSHOCK POSSIBLE
ITS NINTENDO WHO MADE XPAD POSSIBLE AND XPADS A RIPP OFF OF DREAMCAST PAD
DUALSHOCK BASED ON SNES PAD
PLEASE TRY A Wii BIT OF HONESTY SONY FANBOYS
UR FAN A CPOPYING IDIOT NOT AN INNOTIVE GENIUS LIKE I DO
AS FAR AS GAMING IS CONCERNED NINTENDO IS GOD SONY IS TRHE DEVIL
AND THE DEVIL IS ABOUT TO LOOSE
NINTENDO WILL WIN THE CONSOLE WAR THATS 100% FACT
SO I SUGGEST SONY'S FANS GET USED TO THAT FACT
Factor 5 bust after a ps3 exclusive #
free radical bust after ps3 exclusive #
EA in big trouble after ps3 psp backing insted of wii ds
factor 5s moving away from nintendo cost dear
rares moving away from nintendo cost them dear
the nintendo curse you f**k with nintendo U PAY
nintendo continues to be the leading light and biggest profitor in gaming
CASE RESTED GET OUT OF THE CONSOLE BUSSINESS MICROSOFT/SONY
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COPY PASTA ME THINKS.
Dude i love the nintendo as much as most guys that had a nes first time round. But you should probably check some of your facts.
your modern pad has as much to thank sega for than ninty. granted the PS pad is a modified Snes pad.
The xbox pad has more in common with a dreamcast pad what with them being the first to introduce analogue trigger buttons.
Also although nintendo were the first to implement a d pad, sega were the first to get it right. The saturn and megadrive d pads being for better than the snes and N64 equivalent.
However although sega were the first to bring analogue control to major consoles on the saturn it was nintendo that were the first to do it right. although i'd say that the 360 has the best analogues controls now.
sony whole company in big big trouble big lay offs
nintendo making simply insane clear cash profits on top of the biggest gaming war chest in the world and a 100 plus year faultless history of pure profit
EVEN SO MUCH AS TO EARN THE TITLE THE WORLDS BEST COMPANY EVER BY STOCK MARKET TYPES
NINTENDO IS LEGENDARY IN GLOBAL COMMERCE AS A EXAMPLE OF GREAT COMPANY RUNNING NO I HAVEN'T GONE MAD ITS ALL TRUE THEY ALSO WIN AWARDS FOR BUILD QUALITY...
sony fans microsoft fans i hate to rub salt in ur wounds but you people need an education
fact sony fans and gates worshipers all screamed nintendo going 3rd party
the nintendo fan responded nintendo is the gaming master A SLEEPING DRAGON she will one day awake
look what happened next DS AND Wii i rest my superior case
i cubeboy101 predicted wiis success 2 full years before it was shown i also invested in nintendo with cash from my late mothers will in anticipation of the stock explosion i was 99% sure would follow (nintendo shares) guess what i now live in a house i purchused cash with my win fall
no i aint making it up
nintendo lives and breaths GAME nintendo led the gaming innovation and standard that all others folow for the past 20 years
gameboy to gba nes to gamecube ALL PROFIT ALL INNOVATED PRODUCTS
JOYSTICKS REMEMBER THEM
WHO TOOK US AWAY FROM JOYSTICKLS AND TURNING NOBS NINTENDO DID
D-PAD BY NINTENDO
ANALOG STICK NINTENDO
RUMBLE NINTENDO
SHOULDER BUTTONS NINTENDO
MOTION NINTENDO
DUALSHOCK IS MADE UP OF NINTENDO INNOVATIONS
XPAD IS MADE UP OF NINTENDOS INNOVATIONS
EVERYTHING YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED ON A CONTROL PAD WAS GIVEN TO YOU THE GAMER BY
NIN - TEN-DO ITS NINTENDO WHO MAKE THE DUALSHOCK POSSIBLE
ITS NINTENDO WHO MADE XPAD POSSIBLE AND XPADS A RIPP OFF OF DREAMCAST PAD
DUALSHOCK BASED ON SNES PAD
PLEASE TRY A Wii BIT OF HONESTY SONY FANBOYS
UR FAN A CPOPYING IDIOT NOT AN INNOTIVE GENIUS LIKE I DO
AS FAR AS GAMING IS CONCERNED NINTENDO IS GOD SONY IS TRHE DEVIL
AND THE DEVIL IS ABOUT TO LOOSE
NINTENDO WILL WIN THE CONSOLE WAR THATS 100% FACT
SO I SUGGEST SONY'S FANS GET USED TO THAT FACT
Factor 5 bust after a ps3 exclusive #
free radical bust after ps3 exclusive #
EA in big trouble after ps3 psp backing insted of wii ds
factor 5s moving away from nintendo cost dear
rares moving away from nintendo cost them dear
the nintendo curse you f**k with nintendo U PAY
nintendo continues to be the leading light and biggest profitor in gaming
CASE RESTED GET OUT OF THE CONSOLE BUSSINESS MICROSOFT/SONY
Last edited by wiiboy101 on 22 Dec 08 1:07 am; edited 1 time in total
COPY PASTA ME THINKS.
Dude i love the nintendo as much as most guys that had a nes first time round. But you should probably check some of your facts.
your modern pad has as much to thank sega for than ninty. granted the PS pad is a modified Snes pad.
The xbox pad has more in common with a dreamcast pad what with them being the first to introduce analogue trigger buttons.
Also although nintendo were the first to implement a d pad, sega were the first to get it right. The saturn and megadrive d pads being for better than the snes and N64 equivalent.
However although sega were the first to bring analogue control to major consoles on the saturn it was nintendo that were the first to do it right. although i'd say that the 360 has the best analogues controls now.
Bold 1: Spot on (I couldnt be bothered to correct wiiboy)
Bold 2: Dont know about actual control with the stick but I prefer the 360 one because of the concaved sticks.
sony whole company in big big trouble big lay offs
nintendo making simply insane clear cash profits on top of the biggest gaming war chest in the world and a 100 plus year faultless history of pure profit
EVEN SO MUCH AS TO EARN THE TITLE THE WORLDS BEST COMPANY EVER BY STOCK MARKET TYPES
NINTENDO IS LEGENDARY IN GLOBAL COMMERCE AS A EXAMPLE OF GREAT COMPANY RUNNING NO I HAVEN'T GONE MAD ITS ALL TRUE THEY ALSO WIN AWARDS FOR BUILD QUALITY...
sony fans microsoft fans i hate to rub salt in ur wounds but you people need an education
fact sony fans and gates worshipers all screamed nintendo going 3rd party
the nintendo fan responded nintendo is the gaming master A SLEEPING DRAGON she will one day awake
look what happened next DS AND Wii i rest my superior case
i cubeboy101 predicted wiis success 2 full years before it was shown i also invested in nintendo with cash from my late mothers will in anticipation of the stock explosion i was 99% sure would follow (nintendo shares) guess what i now live in a house i purchused cash with my win fall
no i aint making it up
nintendo lives and breaths GAME nintendo led the gaming innovation and standard that all others folow for the past 20 years
gameboy to gba nes to gamecube ALL PROFIT ALL INNOVATED PRODUCTS
JOYSTICKS REMEMBER THEM
WHO TOOK US AWAY FROM JOYSTICKLS AND TURNING NOBS NINTENDO DID
D-PAD BY NINTENDO
ANALOG STICK NINTENDO
RUMBLE NINTENDO
SHOULDER BUTTONS NINTENDO
MOTION NINTENDO
DUALSHOCK IS MADE UP OF NINTENDO INNOVATIONS
XPAD IS MADE UP OF NINTENDOS INNOVATIONS
EVERYTHING YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED ON A CONTROL PAD WAS GIVEN TO YOU THE GAMER BY
NIN - TEN-DO ITS NINTENDO WHO MAKE THE DUALSHOCK POSSIBLE
ITS NINTENDO WHO MADE XPAD POSSIBLE AND XPADS A RIPP OFF OF DREAMCAST PAD
DUALSHOCK BASED ON SNES PAD
PLEASE TRY A Wii BIT OF HONESTY SONY FANBOYS
UR FAN A CPOPYING IDIOT NOT AN INNOTIVE GENIUS LIKE I DO
AS FAR AS GAMING IS CONCERNED NINTENDO IS GOD SONY IS TRHE DEVIL
AND THE DEVIL IS ABOUT TO LOOSE
NINTENDO WILL WIN THE CONSOLE WAR THATS 100% FACT
SO I SUGGEST SONY'S FANS GET USED TO THAT FACT
Factor 5 bust after a ps3 exclusive #
free radical bust after ps3 exclusive #
EA in big trouble after ps3 psp backing insted of wii ds
factor 5s moving away from nintendo cost dear
rares moving away from nintendo cost them dear
the nintendo curse you f**k with nintendo U PAY
nintendo continues to be the leading light and biggest profitor in gaming
CASE RESTED GET OUT OF THE CONSOLE BUSSINESS MICROSOFT/SONY
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ILL POST THE TRUTH AS MANY TIMES AS I WISH ITS THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH
PS3 IS DEAD
WHY DO SONYS FANS GET SOOOO SHIRTY OVER THE """"TRUTH"""
But if you're offering i'll take a sherry. Fancy a mince pie old bean!
I'd rather eat rancid old lady feet, though I appreciate the offer. This is, hands down, the biggest thread I've seen attached to a news article though.
bluray = slow loading = not next gen = unwanted format
ps3 sales = dead =sony fanboy denial
wii= trully next gen
ds = trully next gen
wii= fastest selling console of all time
ds= fastest selling handheld of all time
ps3= dreramcast sales rate
psp= dead
get reality into your fanboy heads sony fans
For someone who like to throw the term 'fanboy' around you really are seriously in denial about your own existence.
PS3 = Dreamcast sales rates?, utter cack. Dreamcast (great as it was) sold 10.8 million in its 4 year life span; the PS3 has sold 16.8 million as of September '08 (under two years). Hardly the same at all, unless you are some kind of deluded fanboy who likes to ignore the actual figures.
PSP = Dead. Yes because 41 million units sold in four years is a total failure, of course.
Seriously you need to calm down and start to look at the world in a slightly more objective manner (unless you wish to continue to aim for the net's most obvious tool award).
The Wii/DS has a lot of great plus points (I own both), but your seriously stupid statement on the PSP/PS3/360 are patently ridiculous (and many are factually inaccurate to a huge degree).
All you are doing is making the sane Wii/DS owners look like they belong to a club full of emotional dysfunctional loonies.
SINGLE SCREEN AND D-PAD WAR WAS GAMEBOY VS GAMEGEAR VS ATARI LYNX
PSP= D-PAD AND SCREEN IN A TOUCH SCREEN DUAL SCREEN ERA = OBSOLETE AND OUT DATED
BASHING A DUALSHOCK=PS1=PS3=AGAIN OBSOLETE
PSP IS A DEAD CONCEPT
PS3 IS A DEAD CONCEPT
GET THIS FACTUAL EVIDENCE THRU YOUR FANBOY HEADS
IF PS3 HAD THE WIIMOTE AND NINTENDO DIDNT YOU WOULD BE SAYING THE SAME STUFF I AM = LYING ASSED PHONY FANBOY
Nothing factual at all exists in your post at all.
I have a news flash for you, your opinion does not (nor will it ever) equal fact. Fact requires independently verifiable proof, I seriously doubt that you can provide that in regard to the PSP/PS3/360 hitting zero sales and being discontinued (which would be required for them to be dead).
Control interfaces alone do not make a machine 'next gen', the Wii and DS are innovative in that regard, but it certainly does make them the only next gen machines.
You also seem to forget that a fair few Wii games themselves resort to the 'button bashing' that you claim is so last gen (I take it by that you consider the likes of Paper Mario a last gen piece of crap).
Hell in other areas they fall behind the PSP/PS3/360 in huge ways, take audio output (the Wii is not capable of true 5.1 despite your totally incorrect claim in another post), video quality, lack of dedicated storage (how exactly do I keep my demos on a DS - oh that's right once I turn off they disappear) on both machines.
Lets take that last point a second and look at it further shall we, the lack of a HDD for the Wii for a start. Well what happens when the internal memory is full, all I can do is (very slowly) transfer between my SD card and the internal memory. Very 'next-gen' that.
Now the DS. What's that I hear you cry, the DSi has an SD card so I can download stuff from a store and save it directly on the hand-held. What a great idea, pity the PSP has allowed you to do that for, oh four years, seems that Nintendo may not have the answer to everything and are very capable of 'borrowing' a good idea from others from time to time.
And don't even get me started on the mess that is on-line gaming on the Wii, hell the PSP does a better job of it that the Wi can manage and the PS3 and 360 leave it standing in the dark on that one (both of which can then save as much of that downloaded content onto a dedicated HDD that can be quickly and easily accessed - pity the same is not true of the Wii).
You see you have missed two things here, one is that I have a Wii and DS (three actually in the family), as well as a PS3 and a PSP, and while I have no 360 I still consider it a great machine. I have no axe to grind with any of these machines, all offer great features and all have short-comings.
The second thing is that I have a great like (and indeed take pleasure in) of making idiotic little fan-boys who do no more than spread FUD around look like the deluded morons that they are.
You see the wonderful thing about age is that it brings patience and a great calm, so your words have no effect on me, but I so hope that I can manage to turn you into a seething ball of rage and frustration within the confines of your bedroom. Just hope that mummy and daddy don't get to angry at the noise you make.
SINGLE SCREEN AND D-PAD WAR WAS GAMEBOY VS GAMEGEAR VS ATARI LYNX
PSP= D-PAD AND SCREEN IN A TOUCH SCREEN DUAL SCREEN ERA = OBSOLETE AND OUT DATED
BASHING A DUALSHOCK=PS1=PS3=AGAIN OBSOLETE
PSP IS A DEAD CONCEPT
PS3 IS A DEAD CONCEPT
GET THIS FACTUAL EVIDENCE THRU YOUR FANBOY HEADS
IF PS3 HAD THE WIIMOTE AND NINTENDO DIDNT YOU WOULD BE SAYING THE SAME STUFF I AM = LYING ASSED PHONY FANBOY
and youre a wii fanboy and a hypocrit at that. you can stay with youre 10 year old gaming friends pedophile seriously you dont even understand the bs youre sticking in your post, even for a retard you should still actually be able to find the proper definition for 'dead'
I wasted a good hour yesterday reading these comments and a hour this morning. And boy wasn't it dull! I want some closure. Did Voodoo and Lonewolf get married and have kids after they got over their tiff? Did seedaripper (probably spelt wrong) realise that slagging someone off for their sig/gamertag if neither original nor very good, however it shows that he is very mature and worldly. Did Wiiboy grow up to be the well adjusted member of society that we all think he is?
I wasted a good hour yesterday reading these comments and a hour this morning. And boy wasn't it dull! I want some closure. Did Voodoo and Lonewolf get married and have kids after they got over their tiff? Did seedaripper (probably spelt wrong) realise that slagging someone off for their sig/gamertag if neither original nor very good, however it shows that he is very mature and worldly. Did Wiiboy grow up to be the well adjusted member of society that we all think he is?
Come on folks I want answers!
Me and Voodoo got divorced. Seedboy never learnt a thing and just disappeared off of the planet. Wiiboy grew up to be the head of Ninty. WheresMyMonkey is still looking for it. Marty became an ambassador for the UN.
Whitby never did get those hours of his life back.
sony ps3 is gathering dust on shelves across the uk it simply isnt selling wii sales are up 70% over last christmas
case rested playstation is dead
MERRY CHRISTMAS
So that's a no then, you can't post any evidence to show that the 360/PSP/PS3 have hit zero sales and have been discontinued. Therefore you can't back up your so-called factual claims at all.
Simply going by sales figures now are we? Well hardly the finest indicator of anything is it, Ferrari and Aston Martin sell significantly less cars than Ford, but that doesn't make them dead. It simply means that one is a form of mass transport that principally appeals to the masses and the others are more dedicated and focused tools.
No the PS3/PSP/360 are not selling in the same volumes as the Wii, big deal, that doesn't make them dead, 'last-gen' or any of the other nonsense you have been coming out with.
I also notice that you have singularly failed to address any of the specific points I have so far raised.
It is however good to see that you have managed to find the Caps-Lock key on your keyboard, now if only you could work on the basics of grammar and spelling as well.
the reality both flopped ps3 really flopped and wii ran wild
try being honest phony fans PlayStation culture is dieing very very quickly
wii and ds are the future
my posts are factual/intelligent/informed/sense making
so the sony fan resorts to GRAMMAR POLICING THAT ONLY PROVES YOUR A ANAL NET GRAMMAR FREAK THAT CARNT WIN AN ARGUMENT SO RESORTS TO SUBJECT CHANGING
THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT SHIITTYY SONY PRODUCTS NOT CURRECT ENGLISH
You posts are anything but factual, intelligent, informed; and they certainly don't make sense at all.
As for changing the subject, you have still singually failed to answer a single question I have asked, nor have you managed to post a single link to prove your so called facts.
As for grammar and spelling, well the only person loosing it over that is you (exactly as I hoped you would - idiots are so easy to manipulate - congratulations on that). The reason I mention it, well take a look at your posts, they look like the product of a deranged 12 year old with learning difficulties. The advantage of using descent grammar and spelling, well you actually look like an adult making a coherent point, something you have failed to do.
Now how about this little boy, try answering my points in regard to the issues on audio and graphical outpoint (in which the Wii is so far from next-gen is unbelievable), the lack of dedicated storage on the Wii or DS (and the DSi nicking the use of flash memory from the PSP).
Then we have the subject of on-line play, in which the Wii is roundly beaten by the PSP/PS3/360 in every way.
Not to mention a good explanation as to why you believe that sale figures alone are an indicator of what is next-gen.
All these topics you have failed to address, changing the subject back to your Caps-Lock rants, so how about you address these points and keep on topic (and feel free to post like a grammatically challenges chimp, does me no harm at all).
I'm also anything but a 'sony-fan', I've already (and in great detail) explained that I own a DS, Wii, PSP and PS3 and have no problem at all with the 360. What I am is grown-up enough to understand is that all of these have pro's and con's. The only person in this thread displaying a fan-boy attitude is you, with a slavish and quite frankly deluded obsession with a single brand and a total failure to see the shortcomings its products have.
The Wii is a sales success, but a large amount of those sales are to people who have no interest in quality games or gaming in general and not interested in the future of gaming. The much loved control interface is not the savour of all genres at all. Which it works for some, even Nintendo have failed to fully integrate it in many games (Paper Mario as I mentioned earlier and you have failed to reply on). Personally I hate it for FPS and for racing sims (and just how many of those does the Wii have) it is 100% unsuitable and for the true sim racer a force feedback wheel is a 100% must.
CONFIRMED ALL OVER THE GLOBE VIA A THING CALLED THE INTERNET BOTH PSP AND PS3 HAVE FLOPPED THIS CHRISTMAS..................
BUT DIDN'T THE SONY FANS CLAIM A 2008 COME BACK A CHRISTMAS 2008 COME BACK THAT NEVER EVER HAPPENED AS ANYONE WITH A BRAIN ALREADY NEW....
Listen numbnuts I've have already tried to explain to you that sales figures alone do not make a console next-gen. The profile of people buying Wii's does not fill the gaming community with a great deal of glee. Quite frankly it doesn't matter how many machines you seel if the games that come with them suck, and the sheer amount of shovelware the Wii has with it is depressing.
You will not find a claim by me that the PSP/PS3/360 were going to outsell the Wii/DS this Christmas at all.
However a fair few sites and magazines have already stated that the PS3 had the strongest games line-up in 2008 and IGN in Australia voted the PS3 the console of the year (with the 360 in second the the Wii trailing in third place, mainly down to the truly appalling games line-up for it)
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/939/939461p1.html
BASHING A OUT DATED CONTROLLER AINT NEXT GEN WAITING FOR BLURAY TO LOAD AINT NEXT GEN
Once again explain the likes of Super Paper Mario or Sonic rings, they both 'button-bash' to a huge degree, with Wiimote interaction limited to nothing more than a six-axis could do.
As for waiting for BR to load, well that has been proven to be BS to the highest degree. Hell the Wii loads some DVD's slower than the PS3 does. I can also play a hell of a lot of games straight off the HDD/Flash memory on the PS3/PSP (just as you can on the 360), something that is about as fast as you can get and something the Wii and DS can't do at all.
MEDIA HUBS AND MOVIES DON'T MAKE A BETTER GAMES CONSOLE GAMING INNOVATIONS DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WORK OUT THE DIFFERENCE
I'm more than aware of the difference, but would also then ask exactly what the Wii web-browser, polls, etc add to the Wii as a games machine and what picto-chat adds to the DS?
BLURAY MOVIES = NOT GAMING
Blu-ray = a storage medium and Nintendo got caught out before by not taking into account that you need enough of that (which is exactly why FF VII ended up on the original Playstation and MGS4 is on the PS3).
3D MOTION = NEXT GEN GAMING GET IT
And doesn't get used in certain titles and is utter rubbish in others. I have already said the Wiimote is a great idea, it just isn't the single defining feature of the next-gen, regardless of what you like to think.
HYPING HDMI AINT A NEXT GEN GAMING INNOVATION
HDMI is a commendation type and rather important for HD video and Audio, its an innovation full stop, just one that is being used heavily for gaming.
WIIMOTE SPEAKER FOR IMMERSION SOUND OH LOOK A GAMING INNOVATION NOT A MEDIA TECHNOLOGY
Sorry but are you honestly claiming that a crappy speaker in a Wii-mote is imemrsive. Its little more than bloody annoying. True surround sound is immersive, your hand bleeping is not.
SONY FANS PLEASE READ SLOWER WHAT IM SAYING
SONY DO NOT """GET""" """GAMING"""
NINTENDO IS GAMINGS GOD
Off course, that's why Wii-music is such a great game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PSP IS A D-PAD AND SCREEN GAMEBOY WAS THAT 20 YEARS AGO AGAIN SONY DOSNT GET GAMING AT ALL
Repetaing the same nonsense will not make it true at all. Care also to explain why both the Wii and DS still have D-pads then? By your measure the I-phone is more next-gen than anything Nintendo make as it gets rid of the D-pad.
TEAS MAIDS ADDED TO CONSOLES DO NOT MAKE BETTER GAMES
TOASTERS ADDED TO A GAMES CONSOLE DONT MAKE BETTER GAMES
Once again explain the Wii web-browser and DS picto-chat, these are non-gaming functions that Nintendo seems to allow? What exactly do they add to games?
DVD PLAY BACK DONT MAKE BETTER GAMES
BLURAY MOVIES DONT MAKE BETTER GAMES
If the storage of optical media is not needed for games then explain why Nintendo dropped cartridges from is home console? The N64 lost so many games because of this single reason.
DVD and Blu-ray movies playback is a simple inclusion to make if a machine has that drive in it already (exactly why any PC with a DVD/BR drive allows movie playback). No in this case its Nintendo being a cheap bunch in including a DVD drive and not allowing playback.
SONY FANS GET THE EVIDENCE THRU YOUR THICK HEADS
I once again see no evidence posted at all, simple more poorly constructed rantings.
WIIMOTE = GAMING TECH
BLURAY = HYPE MEDIA TECH
NUNCHUCK = GAMING INNOVATION
DUALSHOCK = NOT MOVING FORWARD AND FEARING CHANGE
WIIMOTE SPEAKER = INNOVATION
Already covered above, but may I ask why you keep repeating yourself? Do you often find you loose track of what you have already said? Maybe the sign of a feeble mind.
DIGITAL OUT SOUND - HYPE IT DOSNT MAKE """GAMING BETTER WAKE THE HELL UP""""
Yes because the entire home cinema and movie industry is all just hype. True surround sound is one of the great inovations in the current gaming generation. In a lot of games it provides a huge amount of immersion and often gives the player a big advantage (considered by most to be an additional 'perk' in the likes of COD5/COD:WaW).
Time you woke it, because it sure as hell does make gaming better.
MOVIES ARE WATCHED AND LISTENED TO
A GAME IS PLAYED
READ THE TWO ABOVE COMMENTS REPEAT MOVIES ARE WATCHED AND LISTENS TOO
GAMES ARE PLAYED (INTERACTED WITH)
Try playing a game with your eyes closed and earplugs in, then come back and tell me that sound and vision are not an integral part of gaming.
That truly is one of the single more moronic comments I have ever heard anyone come out with. Of course sound and vision alone do not make a game (just as a control interface alone doesn't make something next-gen), but to try and claim they don't make games immersive, well that's simply the ramblings of a deluded fool.
By that token the age of text-based adventure games was the pinnacle of gaming.
WHOS THE GAMING DADDY = NINTENDO
WHIOS THE HYPE DADDY-SONY
ONE DAY THE PENNY WILL DROP IN A PHONY FANBOYS BRAIN
One day you will become self-aware and actually understand that the only fan-boy here is you.
Simply put you don't actually have the intellect required to hold a good argument together, and that is becoming clearer and clearer with every post you make.
I also notice that you still don't want to talk about on-line play on the Wii and DS? I wonder why that is exactly.
MAYBE SONY IF YOU MAKES SOME GOOD GAMES I MIGHT TURN MY PS3 ON A FEW MORE TIMES AND WE COULD SEE HOW RELIABLE YOU REALLY ARE????? MY XBOX HAS DIED ONCE BUT AFTER THE BEATING ITS HAD I'M NOT SURPRISED! GAMES ARE KING! NOT THE CONSOLES!
The bottom line is that Sony would sell a lot more consoles at a better price and this article just tries to cloud that.
PS3's are great but overpriced. Wii's are great. 360's are great, cheap to buy and used to fail.
360 has the best catalogue of games. Wii is a novelty buy for many but better software support coming. The sheer numbers of consoles sold guarentee's this. PS3 is desperate for decent exclusives to try and sell more consoles.
maybe if sony got more games maybe if sony got more exclusives blar blar blar YOUR NOT GETTING IT AT ALL ARE YOU
THE CONCEPT OF PS3 IS O-B-S-O-L-E-T-E
According to who?
The Wii is basically a Gamecube (and what a wonder of innovation that was) with a slightly faster processor and a different control interface.
A lot more than control mechanisms make up innovation.
A point you quite clearly have no ability to grasp at all.
YOU CANNOT INNOVATE FURTHER WITH A OUT DATED CONTROLLER EVERY POSSIBLE WAY OF INTERACTING THAT WAY HAS BEEN EXHAUSTED ITS OBSOLETE
Utter and complete rubbish, and you at all have failed to explain why certain Wii titles (and I have named them repeatedly) still use a button based interface with almost zero use of the Wiimote at all in its 'innovative' mode.
You have also failed completely to explain how the Wiimote works for racing sims, lacking any form of force feedback it is so unsuitable as to be a joke.
Innovation is great, but the Wiimote is not the 'golden bullet' you are making it out to be. yes it suits some game genres excellently, yet in others it is totally useless.
WAITING FOR LONG LOAD-TIMES AGAIN UNACCEPTABLE
Once again you are talking out of your backside here. The BR load times of the PS3 are not significantly longer that those of DVDs at all (and a lesson in the difference between CLV and CAV optical drives would teach you that rather quickly).
You are also still ignoring the fact that the 360 and PS3 can both play titles directly off a HDD, far quicker than anything the Wii can offer. Yet another point you have failed to answer.
SONY FANS CANNOT GRASP ANYTHING OUT SIDE THE BOX
YOU NEED TO REALIZE SONY FANS WHAT IS SET IN STONE AS GAMING IS IN REALITY NOT SET IN STONE GAMING HAS ALWAYS EVOLVED AND
NINTENDO HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE INNOVATOR THAT SETS THE NEW STANDARD
Now aside from the rabid fan-boy nature of this comment, I am more than happy to acknowledge the Wiimote as being innovative (just as Singstar and the Eyetoy were, and Xbox Live was), its you that fails to see outside the box, not the other people posting here.
IM FED UP TO THE BACK TEETH WITH SONY FANS CALLING MEDIA TECH GAMING TECH WEN CLEARLY ITS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
I'm feed-up with you not answering questions.
Answer mine, how did you get on playing your Wii with your eyes closed and earplugs in, given that you claim these are not important or immersive factors in gaming.
SONY DOESNT CARE SIHT ABOUT GAMING THERE IN A HOME SET TOP BOX WAR WITH MICROSOFT AND YET YOUR PLAYSTATION GENERATION JUST CARNT SEE YOUR BEING USED
Nintendo doesn't give a s**t about games, offering up casual title after casual title to rake in money from grannies and kids.
TALK ABOUT DUM
Irony, being called dumb by someone who can't spell the word dumb.
WHY THE WIIMOTE SONY FANS SCREAM AS IF GAMING FELL FROM THE SKYS 1000S OF YEARS AGO AND GOD DEEMED DUALSHOCK THE ONLY WAY
SONY FANS WAKE UP THE CONTROLS HAVE ALWAYS CHANGED AND EVOLVED AND AGAIN ILL STATE THE TRUTH NINTENDO MAKES THOSE CHANGES AND EVERYBODY ELSE FOLLOWS
THERE'S NEVER BEEN A SINGLE WAY TO PLAY BUT SONY FANS TRY TO SAY THERE IS
JOYSTICK BECAME D-PAD AND BUTTONS WHO DID THIS NINTENDO
ANALOG AGAIN NINTENDO
AND SO ON AND SO ON
SONY HAD A ANALOG STICKLESS SNES PAD RIP OFF ON PS1 (YES THATS RIGHT A 2D CONTROL PAD ON A 3D CONSOLE WHAT A JOKE FROM THE VERY BEGINGING SONY ARE PROVEN MORONS)
N64 CAME ALONG A 3D (TRUE 3D CONSOLE NOT A PILE OF 3D CRAP LIKE PS1)AND GUESS WHAT IT HAD OH LOOK A 3D STICK A ANALOG STICK
WHY BECAUSE THE GAMES WERE 3D NOT COUGH (SONY D=PAD) 2D
AS YOU CAN SEE NINTENDO KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING SONY JUST COPYED THE SNES
Again read my point about fully acknowledging innovation, but understanding when it is and is not useful.
BTW - Sony announced an analogue controller a full year before the N64 hit the market, and anyone claiming that the original PS didn't move the gaming market forward in an innovative manner is quite clearly a fool.
An arcade perfect version of Ridge Racer was one of the launch titles for the Playstation and was quite rightly regarded as one of the most important titles and innovations in gaming. That you don't want to acknowledge that is simply a sign of your rabid ignorance of gaming history.
AGAIN IV JUST PROVEN SONY FANS AS ASSSSHOLESS
Once again you have proven nothing, given that proof requires independently verifiable sources. something you have failed to provide even once.
Its also interesting to see that once again in place of a well constructed argument you simple resort to name-calling. Its this reason that parents should take more care about the time children spend on the internet.
YOU CANNOT ADVANCE GAMING WITH OUT ADVANCING CONTROLS ENGINEERING FACT
What exactly do you know about engineering (very little given that statement).
The automobile, one of the most complex engineering designs on the face of the planet has seen innovation after innovation with the control mechanism remaining almost unchanged in over a century.
You clearly have no idea at all what you are talking about.
SONY JUST PAINTS A DUALSHOCK GOLD ADDS A TILT SENSER THEN TAKES THE E3 STAGE AND BULL SIHTS THE WORLD INTO THINKING IT HAS 3D MOTION
SONY FANS GO JUMP UR A JOKE
Fanboys of any flavour area joke and you are the single biggest one I have ever come across, and you may want to watch the Nintendo press conference from E3 this year before throwing rocks at anyone - Wii Music being demo'd was quite frankly one of the saddest moments in gaming ever - the day Nintendo illustrated exactly how little it cares about core gamers.
You have still failed to address the point about on-line gaming or the non gaming 'add-ons' the Wii and DS has.
Yet more caps-lock rubbish is all we get; is this honestly the best you can do?
you can kick and scream all you like ps3 xbox fan zombies your belief systems and opinions and intellect of gaming culture and industry has been proven TOTALLY AND UTTERLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY...
AND ALLLLLLLL THE COMMON SENSE SPOKEN IN FORUMS OVER THE YEARS BY US SUPERIOR NINTENDO FAN INTELLECTS HAS BEEN PROVEN GAMING'S GOSPEL
CAN I ASK A QUESTION DID YOU IN YOUR (WISDOM) WINK ACTUALLY THINK NINTENDO WAS GOING TO SHOWER BEND OVER FOR SONY AND MICROSOFT LIKE SOME PRISON HIM-WHORE LADYBOY
BUT HONEST GOVNER NINTENDOS GOING 3RD PARTY I KNOW THIS AS IM A SONY FAN ZOMBIE
BLOODY HILARIOUS
I THINK NOT HAY YOU INSANE FAN ZOMIES
NINTENDO HAS A HUGE WAR CHEST YOU DIDNT LISTEN TO US DID YOU
NINTENDO WORKS ON INNOVATIONS FOR YEARS YOU DIDNT LISTEN TO US
NINTENDO ALWAYS PULLS SOMETHING OUT OF THE BAG YOU AGAIN REFUSED TO LISTEN TO COMMON SENSE
MICROSOFT BEAT ITS CHEST AND SCREAMED SET TOP BOX WAR IS DECLARED ON SONY PC /WINDOWS IS THREATENED BY PLAYSTATION CULTURE
SONY SHARPENED ITS SAMURAI SWARD AND DECLARED WAR ON MICROSOFT GAMING WAS A COVER UP A FRONT FOR A MUCH BIGGER MORE SINISTER PLAN THE GLOBAL DOMINATION OF ALL INFORMATION AND MEDIA AND HOME NET MANAGMENT WITH FULL ACCESSABILLITY BY FBI MI5 GOD KNOWS WHO
THE DO IT ALL RUN YOUR LIFE 24/7 NET CONECTED SET TOP BOX
AND YOU GAMERS FELL FOR IT WELL ALL THE NON NINTENDO FANS DID
WILST SONY s**t ITS PANTS OF MICROSOFT AND VISA VERSA
NINTENDO LIKE A SLY SNAKE NEW ONE VITAL SECRET
ITS ALLLLLLLLLLL ABOUT GAMES GAMING AND INNOVATION
AND JUST LIKE THAT TWO GIANTS WERE SLANE AND LIKE ANY SELF RESPECTING GAMING INTERLECT AKA NINTENDO FAN SEEN IT ALL COMMING
THE END
NIN TEN DO NIN TEN DO NIN TEN DO NIN TEN DO
I will take your total failure to answer any of my direct questions as an acknowledgement that you are incorrect.
Seriously you need to get out more (ask mummy and daddy if you can have some of those nice pills that help keep you calm).
Now how about an answer for my questions (or do you plan to just explode in an incoherent rage again).
NIN TEN DO NIN TEN DO NIN TEN DO NIN TEN DO NIN TEN DO NIN TEN DO NINTEN DO NIN TEN DO NIN TEN DO
GO BASH A DUALSHOCK AND EMBARRASS ONES SELF
ITS OBSOLETE GET IT
MICROSOFT AND SONY ARE IN A SET TOP BOX WAR ANYONE WITH A BRAIN KNOWS THAT
The only person embarrassing themselves is you (and I don't want to imagine what you are bashing when you stare at your Wii).
The 360 and PS3 are most certainly not obsolete at all, if anything once you look past the Wiimote its the Wii that is running on an obsolete specification.
It sells well (and fair play to it - I own one) based on its easy of use, something that allows it to appeal beyond the normal game console audience.
However that has also lead to the Wii having one of the poorest software line-ups ever, its the 360 and PS3 that have delivered titles that have moved genres along (with the likes of LBP, Gear 1 & 2, etc). The Wii does have a few good titles, but most are rehashes of far superior older games (Mario Cart being a good example) and have to be hunted down in the tidal wave of mini-games and dross.
I'm glad to see that in continuing it this vein you are happy to accept that you have no actual answer to my questions and simply wish to continue to re-enforce your ignorance and fan-boy attitude.
Well done (now go ask mummy for a cuddle).
Your constant bashing of the 360 and PS3 as being in a 'set-top' box war must also be rather embarrassing given the news that Nintendo will be launching exactly that kind of service for the Wii in 2009...
...looks like Nintendo have borrowed an idea from MS and Sony. That also means that your claim that the Wii doesn't dilute itself with 'non-gaming' stuff (despite the web browser, polls, etc) has just been dealt a fatal blow by Nintendo themselves.
It must suck to be such a fan-boy that even Nintendo are now giving you a kicking.
Take a look at this snippet from a recent Wall Street Journal article…
U.S. sales of the PS3 fell 19% last month from a year earlier, while sales doubled for the Wii console and rose 8% for the Xbox 360, according to research firm NPD…
The Wii sold 1.35 million units in December of 2007. If sales were to double, that would put the Wii at 2.7 million units sold. The record amount of sales for a console in one month sits with the PS2…which sold 2.7 million in a month. Those NPD sales figures can’t come fast enough.
Full article here
gonintendo.com //// wiifanboy///joystiq etc etc
ps3 sales DOWN ON LAST YEAR
Wii sales doubled
the ps3 is obsolete moron sony fans
sony fans 3rd place and sales slipping = ps3
1st place and sales rising=wii
your culture and console is DEAD
Already seen it and read it, I've never disputed that the PS3 is in 3rd place in regard to sales volumes, nor have I ever made a claim that the PS3 would 'take' Christmas (or any other time period for that matter). In fact Sony themselves have admitted that they are likely to remain in third place in this generation.
Now did you notice what I did there, that's right I answered your question and addressed you comments.
Now how about you do the same.
First off, being in third place does not make the PS3 obsolete, sales volumes have nothing at all to do with obsolescence.
So what are your thoughts on Nintendo's move to turn the Wii into a 'set-top' box fighter, a move you have claimed makes the 360/PS3 non game focused. It seems that you don't want to actually answer than particulr question, why is that exactly.
Nor have you yet answered my questions regarding the Wii's on-line ability, or the unsuitabilty of the Wiimote for certain genres of games, or the games that still force you to 'button-bash' on teh Wii (something that once again is so in the past that only outdated machines would do that).
So how about it, give me an answer, that's if you have one.
My guess is that I will simply get more upper case rantings.
so wii december usa alone = 2.7 million and its a2x sales level of last year
what did your ps3 do sony fans it BOMBED BIG TIME AND SALES FELL ON YEAR BEFORE = A DIEING FORMAT
ITS CALLED HONESTY
No its called FUD.
We are all more than aware of sales data (and as Dec ended yesterday I would love to know how you know the final figures), that however has nothing at all to do with either this thread or the numerous questions you have been asked and so far refuse to answer.
So once again...
Why is the Wii so damn poor on-line if its the only true next-gen machine?
Why does the Wiimote fail so massively as a controller for racing sims if its the only true next-gen feature?
Why is Nintendo adding a 'non-gaming' feature that will bring set-top box features to the Wii if only lost causes like the 360 and PS3 do that?
Why does the Wii have a web browser and polls, etc; as these add nothing to gaming?
Why do titles such as Super paper Mario resort to button bashing if that's as last-gen as you suggest?
Why does the Wii not have titles to get even close to the likes of LBP and GoW2?
Why do you keep going on about load times when the only machine that can't store a reasonable amount of games or have its HDD upgraded is the Wii (and when will you actually learn about CLV and CAV drives to understand that you are talking rubbish about load times anyway - BTW the Wii takes as long to load a DVD based game as the PS3 takes to load a BR based game).
Now I have already mentioned how Sony had shown the dual-analogue controller to the world a good year before the N64 came out, here is another one for your Nintendo invented everything file. How about a hand-held that had a touch-screen, dual game ports and on-line capability long before the DS? That would be the Tiger game.com.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game.com
....launched in '97 it pre-dates the DS by seven years! Now explain again how Nintendo innovated in this area?
I'm beginning to suspect you don't want to answer any of these questions as your fan-boy blindness means you don't want to have to acknowledge the answers.
Once again all I actually expect back is yet more Caps Locks, sales figures are the only important thing nonsense.
what wii have proven beyond all doubt in this thread is sony fans are retarded
ps3 sales down each year on last its sales are shrinking its in 3rd place globally and also selling in 3rd place its 2008 xmas sales were a complete flop
wii is fastest selling console of all time its sales are number 1 by far and its sales are growing its clear wii shall own 2009 as it has 2007/08 with far more core titles and new colours and pricedrops still to come its clear 2009-10 is going to see wii totally and utterly dominate
ps3 shall fall further behind globally and die by the time ps3 becomes a viable product wii2 will have all the asses kicked GAME OVER NINTENDO WINS
So sales figures are all you can quote then, thought as much (and calling me retarded - how impressive).
Amazing that you still don't want to answer the difficult questions and simply want to repeat the same nonsense over and over again.
OK so I have another question for you. When you were going by the name of cubeboy101 you were very vocal about how quality meant far more than sales volumes and the only reason why the PS2 sold was because naive idiots bought it. How come you have changed your tune so much and now the only thing you can go on about is how important sales figures are.
Keep in mind that the Gamecube finished the last gen in last place and the N64 in second place, both times a lot worse that the current situation. Can't find any evidence of you going on about how important sales were back then. Tell you what come back and show off when the Wii gets to the same sales figures that the original Playstation or the PS2 managed, one of which is of course still selling and selling well given how old it is (something the Gamecube failed to manage).
Maybe, and see if you can keep up with this train of thought, its because you are one of the single biggest Nintendo fanboys on the face of the earth.
Now how about those questions again, fancy answering them yet.
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