As the new year begins, Sony Computer Entertainment America's public relations department has issued a newly-formulated feature run-down that favorably compares the PS3's value to that of Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii, directly calling out competitors who have fewer included features.
In a Wednesday press release headlined "Keeping Gaming and Entertainment Simple," the company emphasized out-of-the-box PS3 features such as Blu-ray functionality, built-in Wi-Fi, "huge hard drives," free online gaming and "Ten years of value with a future-proof system via firmware updates that offer new services and features."
A price and feature breakdown by the lowest entry points for each console claimed that the standard 80GB $399 PS3 gets more entertainment bang for the buck than a souped-up Xbox 360 Arcade and a Nintendo Wii.
Driving the point home, the statement read, "The Xbox 360 requires additional money, multiple upgrades and additional external devices, putting a burden on the wallet and adds clutter to the entertainment center.
"And the Wii's lack of enhanced features comes at the expense of a comprehensive entertainment solution.
"So as PS3 continues to evolve without the need for additional parts or expenses, expect the competition to continue peddling add-ons in an effort to keep up with the Jones'." [Sony's emphasis.]
With the Consumer Electronics Show kicking off this week in Las Vegas, and both Sony and Microsoft presenting keynotes, the statement may be a precursor to some gaming news.
Asked about the reasoning and timing behind the e-mail blitz, an external SCEA rep from PR firm Porter Novelli told Edge over the phone, "We're entering CES, and gaming systems are certainly something that people take a hard look at there. That was the motivation. I'm sure you'll be seeing announcements from Sony and all of the gaming systems. We thought it would be a good time just to remind everyone of our strong offerings."
In the past, Microsoft has held fast to its decision not to include certain features with Xbox 360, saying the a la carte method gives consumers more choice. And with over 2 million Nintendo Wiis sold in the U.S. in November alone, it's fairly clear there is a certain large audience that doesn't care too much about the entertainment offerings of a PS3 or Xbox 360.
Surprise, surprise, Sony having a dig at the competition at a major show trying to get publicity for their machine...despicable and underhand behaviour if ever I saw it.
The whole reason I buy games consoles is to play games, not for over extensive features I don't need. Which is why in that respect I get more value for money from my 360 and Wii than I would from a PS3
I dont get it, I thought Sony were above the childish digs and insults? Oh, wait a minute, there all as bad as each other, no platform is any worse or better when it comes to this sort of nonsense, there all at it!
Not so sure a HDD which attaches flush to the top/end of the unit and an optional wi-fi device which clips to the back plugged in via 2 inches of usb cable represent "clutter".
Yeah, the PS3 has a slicker case than the 360 and features integrated wifi & blu-ray (which to this day not everyone wishes to use) but I don't see this as justification for charging THAT much more.
Lower your price point Sony, then you can start justifiable mud-slinging.
I'm not entirely sure why they dragged the Wii into this. The Wii is a completely different animal. I know plenty of people who have chosen between the PS3 and the Xbox but also have a Wii - they don't see the machine as being in direct competition with either Sony's or Microsoft's machine, you can't compare them. Having said that, I don't own a Wii but I do have a PS3 and a 360 and yes, the Xbox has been faaaaaaar more expensive than the PS3, but I do tend to play on the Xbox a lot more; the PS3's Blu Ray functionality is it's strongest card (IMHO).
At least Microsoft are ahead in the console war, they have the upper ground here. It seems more amusing when Sony bods(currently in last place this gen)have a pop.
The article at the end sums it up well though, no one really cares much about the entertainment side of the ps3 or 360. The majority don't want hd dvd or bluray playback, it's always been about the games. Sony are finally catching on now with some decent exclusives(it's taken long enough though)
Surprise, surprise, Sony having a dig at the competition at a major show trying to get publicity for their machine...despicable and underhand behaviour if ever I saw it.
Huge hard-drives? I have a 60GB one, and here are some of the game installs:
1. Fallout 3, 4GB 2. MGS4, 4GB 3. Oblivion, 4GB 4. Lost Planet, 5GB 5. Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty, 4GB
The PS3 needs larger hard-drives... I don't get the Ratchet and Clank one either...the install is bigger than the game size had it been downloaded, the previous R&C game didn't have a huge install and it doesn't say it has a large install on the box, it just happened when I turned on the game.
Microsoft and Sony are as bad as each other, taking cheap shots at each other does nothing.
Surprise, surprise, Sony having a dig at the competition at a major show trying to get publicity for their machine...despicable and underhand behaviour if ever I saw it.
Just the same as what Microsoft has been doing.
I think youll find he and a few others who commented earlier are just being ironic...do keep up
360 premium 60gb - Ł159 360 wifi adapter - Ł45 360 play & charge cable - Ł10 (and it is longer than the PS3's 4 inch long cable) 1 year of LIVE - Ł35
360 total - Ł260
360 having pretty much all the same games, a better control pad, better online service, nobody gives a f**k about Blu Ray... oh look it's cheaper.
I'd say people do, a lot of people use their PS3 to play Blu Rays. So you've removed the price of a Blu Ray player in order to make your point. Add the price of one in and then see which is cheaper
For the people who care about Blu Ray, it's not cheaper. And 1 year of LIVE? I wasn't aware people only went online for a year You can write a bunch of figures down to make ap oint but it proves very little, all people want different things from a console.
I dont get it, I thought Sony were above the childish digs and insults? Oh, wait a minute, there all as bad as each other, no platform is any worse or better when it comes to this sort of nonsense, there all at it!
I don't think there's any disagreement there but read your mate Tonyb's comments above. Gold fish memory.
As for "padding out with add-ons", at least some of the padding seems to include exclusive titles, wider choice, earlier release dates, exclusive DLC, healthy and speedy servers (you get what you pay for), innovative controllers that break the mould in gaming interactivity, and family friendly entertainment.
Surprise, surprise, Sony having a dig at the competition at a major show trying to get publicity for their machine...despicable and underhand behaviour if ever I saw it.
Just the same as what Microsoft has been doing.
I think youll find he and a few others who commented earlier are just being ironic...do keep up
When people say 360 is 'winning' Its so easy to forget and it slips peoples minds that its been out 1 year longer, and in fact PS3 has sold more than 360 did in that time...but moving on...
Anyhow, I just think Sony and Microsoft should hand over control of their companies to us, as we all know better don't we
Not so sure a HDD which attaches flush to the top/end of the unit and an optional wi-fi device which clips to the back plugged in via 2 inches of usb cable represent "clutter".
Yeah, the PS3 has a slicker case than the 360 and features integrated wifi & blu-ray (which to this day not everyone wishes to use) but I don't see this as justification for charging THAT much more.
Lower your price point Sony, then you can start justifiable mud-slinging.
Hey ho, fanboys to their marks...
Every single person who owns a PS3 with the intention of buying games or watching blu-ray films has the intention of using it. All blu-ray films are on blu ray and all PS3 games are on blu-ray (save for downloadable games).
with Sony packing all that stuff into the PS3, therefore increasing its cost. doesn't that tell you that games don't want these add-ons? otherwise we'd all run out and buy PS3's?.
another thing is, this only shows how backward Sony are still thinking. the key to success is great software, not great hardware! its been two years in the PS3 market, and they still don't get it?
They are both as bad as each other Sony want to force the bells and whistles on you and MSoft want to empty your wallet for them.
At the end of the day if you have the money to pay for all the bells and whistles straight away go for the PS3. If your budget to spend straight away is more limited then go for the 360. Both are bloody decent games machines.
Sony might be correct but shopping around for the extras on the 360 can save alot, i got my gold subscription for Ł32 which is for 13 months.
also, the ps3 might contain everything but everyone has to pay Ł280 for one where as with the 360 you can buy an arcade cheaply and add bits as you go over a period of time if you need to. i dont need blu-ray or wifi but i have no option with the ps3, where as if it was Ł100 cheaper without them i would consider buying one. in the current financial climate surely the 360 is more attractive as you can buy one cheaply and add wifi in 6-12 months time when you have enough cash rather than spending too much up front.
my 360 has cost me less than the current price point of the ps3 so sony's argument doesnt wash with my situation.
I think Sony's problem this generation has been trying to do too much. They're still hawking the PS3 as a complete entertainment system, which it may be, but the brand is a games machine. I'd have put the games first and had the entertainment hub as a bonus feature.
As for the 360 packages. Without a hard drive it's pointless. Even with a decent memory card you're barely able to get a demo, let alone keep all of your saves. The 20Gb should have been the lowest model they offered, with the upgrades as options.
And the Wii is a toy, that's all there is to it. It really only does one thing - party games - but that much it does pretty well. They're not trying to sell it on anything other than having fun with a room full of people.
If you ask me, Sony would be better off pimping the numbers that the hardware cranks out. Polycounts, shaders, data transfer - that's what gets gamers thinking, not "can I play as many songs on this as I can on the other brand?".
I dont get it, I thought Sony were above the childish digs and insults? Oh, wait a minute, there all as bad as each other, no platform is any worse or better when it comes to this sort of nonsense, there all at it!
I don't think there's any disagreement there but read your mate Tonyb's comments above. Gold fish memory.
still Sony need to learn from the master
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc
As has already been pointed out, the comment was tongue in cheek t**t-head.
And the video that you keep reposting is SO hilarious, you creaming yourself every time you watch it?...it's a great joke and has everyone in fits of laughter. Still I suppose Microsoft could open their show with some Nintendo music but that'd be a f**k-up of royal measures surely...c**k!
with Sony packing all that stuff into the PS3, therefore increasing its cost. doesn't that tell you that games don't want these add-ons? otherwise we'd all run out and buy PS3's?.
another thing is, this only shows how backward Sony are still thinking. the key to success is great software, not great hardware! its been two years in the PS3 market, and they still don't get it?
I honestly don't think it's as simple as that. Both machines are great gaming systems it just depends on whether you want the extra facilities the PS3 has to offer such as HD movie playback out of a single box. For me the PS3's added functionality is worth every penny.
As has already been pointed out, the comment was tongue in cheek t**t-head.
And the video that you keep reposting is SO hilarious, you creaming yourself every time you watch it?...it's a great joke and has everyone in fits of laughter. Still I suppose Microsoft could open their show with some Nintendo music but that'd be a f**k-up of royal measures surely...c**k!
I think that PS3 given it's features represents value for money (sony still making a loss on each console). I agree a choice of reduced features would have been nice (kudos to MS), but I genuinely believe the PS3 will have a better shelf life than the 360. I'm not a fanboy and have owned both consoles, but for me the future potential for the PS3 outranks the 360 who are running out of ideas, I mean Lips a direct Singstar rip off. As for Blu-Ray it is beginning to catch on quicker than people recognise, Iron Man sold more copies on the first release day than on DVD. I think Sony are the innovators here and are pushing the boat out, 360 IMO is levelling out. As for PSN vs XBL, lets not forget that not only does the 360 Live service have a 1 year advantage but the live service was available with the original xbox and that was not without it's faults. I'd personally rather have a free service in it's infancy than pay for the same service that has had more time to be established. In conclusion (before I no doubt receive the dreaded fanboy profanities) is that the 360 is a great current gen machine, but I just can't help feel that the PS3 has a lot more to come. That's my decision for switching.
He is a walking hypocrisy, just ignore it and it’ll go away in a huff.
Tonyb isn't that bad and I wouldn't like to call him an it.
Well actually that was referring to both of you, you’re both as bad as each other and probably meet up at weekends to have a little snuggle, before going back to your keyboards and recommencing your unending battle as to who’s chosen console is better. I for one am very happy for you both.
guess sony are getting a little desperate. to have to whine about the competition.
but isn't it a little presumptious to talk about value out of the box when you can buy both a wii and a 360 for the price of one PS3
i think they've spent to much time harping on about additional features and blu ray and forgotten the fundements that made thier last two machines great.
Because of putting it as a media hub first and a games machine second its allowed MS and nintendo to walk all over em. Getting exclusives away from them targeting new audiences that has dramatically decreased sonys piece of the gaming pie.
Having all these different spec 360's must be confusing to the average consumer. How many uneducated parents will have gone out and bought the 360 Arcade for Christmas, only for the poor kiddies to scream "You bought the one without the hard drive you dumbass!"
He is a walking hypocrisy, just ignore it and it’ll go away in a huff.
Thanks for that Toolio!
So were you abused as a kid or is it just down to school-yard bullying to explain your personality bypass?
Again it was directed at both of you sweetie, I feel no need to divulge you details of my childhood, but needless to say it was rich and fruitful along with lashings of mischief.
It is interesting that you cast aspersions against my good self whilst maintaining an incredibly hostile manner, I am sure Freud would have a filed day with you. I, on the other hand, am not interested in the slightest.
And I think what you meant was toodle pip, and tally-bally ho!
He is a walking hypocrisy, just ignore it and it’ll go away in a huff.
Tonyb isn't that bad and I wouldn't like to call him an it.
Well actually that was referring to both of you, you’re both as bad as each other and probably meet up at weekends to have a little snuggle, before going back to your keyboards and recommencing your unending battle as to who’s chosen console is better. I for one am very happy for you both.
You take things too seriously Conkers, the two of them are always baiting each other. It would be boring on here if everything was just people speaking conservatively about the news articles. Lighten up.
They are both as bad as each other Sony want to force the bells and whistles on you and MSoft want to empty your wallet for them.
At the end of the day if you have the money to pay for all the bells and whistles straight away go for the PS3. If your budget to spend straight away is more limited then go for the 360. Both are bloody decent games machines.
Both are bloody great machines
Both machines are great gaming systems it just depends on whether you want the extra facilities the PS3 has to offer such as HD movie playback out of a single box. For me the PS3's added functionality is worth every penny.
Yeah but it's a shame the extra functions aren't valued that much by people - but who can blame them, all they're expecting is a games console.
the key to success is great software, not great hardware!
Although I agree to a certain extent, remember that great software is not possible without the great hardware.
O and is it just me or am I the only one who feels that it's important to note -
Sony Computer Entertainment America's public relations department has issued...
You take things too seriously Conkers, the two of them are always baiting each other. It would be boring on here if everything was just people speaking conservatively about the news articles. Lighten up.
Oh I know, that’s why I said I was happy for them both, they obviously enjoy their banter with each other, see how I have united them against me though, they will soon be exchanging virtual glances soon enough, the odd little cheeky laugh before glancing towards the lavatories conspiratorially…
I think that PS3 given it's features represents value for money (sony still making a loss on each console). I agree a choice of reduced features would have been nice (kudos to MS), but I genuinely believe the PS3 will have a better shelf life than the 360. I'm not a fanboy and have owned both consoles, but for me the future potential for the PS3 outranks the 360 who are running out of ideas, I mean Lips a direct Singstar rip off. As for Blu-Ray it is beginning to catch on quicker than people recognise, Iron Man sold more copies on the first release day than on DVD. I think Sony are the innovators here and are pushing the boat out, 360 IMO is levelling out. As for PSN vs XBL, lets not forget that not only does the 360 Live service have a 1 year advantage but the live service was available with the original xbox and that was not without it's faults. I'd personally rather have a free service in it's infancy than pay for the same service that has had more time to be established. In conclusion (before I no doubt receive the dreaded fanboy profanities) is that the 360 is a great current gen machine, but I just can't help feel that the PS3 has a lot more to come. That's my decision for switching.
PSN is awful compared to xbox live, for private chat you still have to be in the dash to do it, 360 did that on release, how hard can it be to implement an important feature (to people who play alot online) like that???!!
Oh I know, that’s why I said I was happy for them both, they obviously enjoy their banter with each other, see how I have united them against me though, they will soon be exchanging virtual glances soon enough, the odd little cheeky laugh before glancing towards the lavatories conspiratorially…
sounds like you're speaking from experience there. Fan of musicals by any chance?
Bet you're regretting sticking up for a fellow Xbox fanboy now...
He is a walking hypocrisy, just ignore it and it’ll go away in a huff.
Thanks for that Toolio!
So were you abused as a kid or is it just down to school-yard bullying to explain your personality bypass?
Again it was directed at both of you sweetie, I feel no need to divulge you details of my childhood, but needless to say it was rich and fruitful along with lashings of mischief.
It is interesting that you cast aspersions against my good self whilst maintaining an incredibly hostile manner, I am sure Freud would have a filed day with you. I, on the other hand, am not interested in the slightest.
And I think what you meant was toodle pip, and tally-bally ho!
I look forward to a "filed day" from Freud, woodwork was always my fave.
And if you're "not interested in the slightest", then don't direct your s**t at my posts and keep your f**king nose out or should that be "tally-bally ho mother-f**ker" to use your parlance.
Keeping things simple? So why do you have to go out and buy an HDMI cable and remote is entertainment's to be kept simple? Since Sony have been spouting about Hi Def crap for so long, why are these bits extras? Cos I don't like having to use a controller to work my films. The 360 set up ain't so bad but if the PS3's is anything like the PS2's, then its annoying. A remote is so much better and convenient to use. Admittedly, the 360 doesn't come packed with one but at least Ms**te aren't billing it an entertainment hub or whatever.
Like people have said though, both are as bad as each other
Oh I know, that’s why I said I was happy for them both, they obviously enjoy their banter with each other, see how I have united them against me though, they will soon be exchanging virtual glances soon enough, the odd little cheeky laugh before glancing towards the lavatories conspiratorially…
sounds like you're speaking from experience there. Fan of musicals by any chance?
Bet you're regretting sticking up for a fellow Xbox fanboy now...
No not really, I find them tiresome and twee, not for me at all. Are you perchance implying something there? Or just asking?
Interesting how the Xbox fanboy bit wasn’t on your post, I wasn’t aware I had been filed (that one’s for you Tony!) in with that crowd, I do like my Xbox though. I don’t have a PS3 either, but I like them too. What does that make me?
(That should set you up for myriad possibilities of amusing retorts…)
And if you're "not interested in the slightest", then don't direct your s**t at my posts and keep your f**king nose out or should that be "tally-bally ho mother-f**ker" to use your parlance.
Yes, that is much better actually. And of course I am interested, otherwise I wouldn't have said anything. It's very easy to wind you up isn't it!
And if you're "not interested in the slightest", then don't direct your s**t at my posts and keep your f**king nose out or should that be "tally-bally ho mother-f**ker" to use your parlance.
Yes, that is much better actually. And of course I am interested, otherwise I wouldn't have said anything. It's very easy to wind you up isn't it!
Don't flatter yourself, you haven't got the wit or intelligence to wind me up.
And it was you who typed "filed" in your original post you thick c**t!
Sssssh, don't tell that to the lovely people on here who see the PS3 as a status symbol!
In fact I posted something at the end of another thread, but it's relevant so sod it.
I got the 360 because overall it is more expensive and the PS3 is a cheapy, does it all straight out of the box console for cheap low life scum.
Hell, I enjoy paying more money so much that I even decided against going for any bundles. Then, to just make it seem even more expensive and exclusive, I got a taxi to the furthest Game store from me in London and bought every item individually, returning home in another taxi (I told him to take the scenic route) before dropping the item off at home and returning to the shop to pick up the next one. So it worked out as (this was before the price drops too!):
Cab to Game - Ł50 xbox 360 arcade - Ł200 Cab home - Ł50 Cab to Game - Ł50 120GB HD - Ł120 Cab home - Ł50 Cab to Game - Ł50 Extra controller - Ł32 Cab home - Ł50 Cab to Game - Ł50 Wireless adaptor - Ł60 Cab home - Ł50 Cab to Game - Ł50 GTAIV - Ł50
Cab home - Ł50.
So my 360 actually cost me Ł962. That puts you cheap skates and your Ł425 console to shame. I haven't even mentioned how I bought XBL in the shops with a Ł50 note and told them to keep the change. And I'm gutted Woolies has closed, cos I loved getting my games full price from there. Just to feel rich.
Oh how I love feeling rich and superior. I LOVE IT. And when my 360 RRoDs, sod the warranty. I'll just get to do it alllll again.
He has a point to some degree, but the wireless and BR were not necessary for me. And the wii??? The wii is a games machine pure and simple. It's what I buy games consoles for, I know others have different (and totally valid) reasons.
Oh I know, that’s why I said I was happy for them both, they obviously enjoy their banter with each other, see how I have united them against me though, they will soon be exchanging virtual glances soon enough, the odd little cheeky laugh before glancing towards the lavatories conspiratorially…
sounds like you're speaking from experience there. Fan of musicals by any chance?
Bet you're regretting sticking up for a fellow Xbox fanboy now...
No not really, I find them tiresome and twee, not for me at all. Are you perchance implying something there? Or just asking?
Interesting how the Xbox fanboy bit wasn’t on your post, I wasn’t aware I had been filed (that one’s for you Tony!) in with that crowd, I do like my Xbox though. I don’t have a PS3 either, but I like them too. What does that make me?
(That should set you up for myriad possibilities of amusing retorts…)
It makes you a rare breed. Or a freak compared to the relative impartial insanity of this glorious site as most could only dream of such behaviour.
On the rare occasions when I feel my inner fanboy (Ric) flare up, I tend to go down the passive/aggressive route. I bought and prefer the 360, but have nothing against the PS3 or Sony per se - if it had been around Ł200 at the time I bought my 360 my decision wouldn't have been so straight forward.
And if you're "not interested in the slightest", then don't direct your s**t at my posts and keep your f**king nose out or should that be "tally-bally ho mother-f**ker" to use your parlance.
Yes, that is much better actually. And of course I am interested, otherwise I wouldn't have said anything. It's very easy to wind you up isn't it!
Don't flatter yourself, you haven't got the wit or intelligence to wind me up.
And it was you who typed "filed" in your original post you thick c**t!
Apologies, I had assumed your aggressive demeanour was you being wound up, apparently you’re just like that all the time. I also wasn’t aware that making a typo that consisted of field being shown as filed was an indicator of my intelligence, but thank you for showing me the error of my ways you donkey raping s**t eater.
It makes you a rare breed. Or a freak compared to the relative impartial insanity of this glorious site as most could only dream of such behaviour.
On the rare occasions when I feel my inner fanboy (Ric) flare up, I tend to go down the passive/aggressive route. I bought and prefer the 360, but have nothing against the PS3 or Sony per se - if it had been around Ł200 at the time I bought my 360 my decision wouldn't have been so straight forward.
Well I do have a preference for the 360, but that’s only because I only have that machine and as such will obviously harbour favouritism to it. Probably the only reason that is stopping me getting a PS3 is that I don’t know when I would find time to play them both, and I don’t think my good lady (oh dear lord, I appear to be straight Voodoo! Or is it merely a ruse, teeheehee) would allow me to bring it in the house, she see’s my Xbox as another woman as it is…
My brother has one though, and I bought him LittleBigPlanet for Christmas, I thought that was pretty decent, as I do of upcoming Killzone 2, having played the beta on his machine.
Nah I wouldn't go as far as saying Sony is as bad as Microsoft, nice concise point made based on facts Nigel by the way Also I'd like to point this out yet again- here...
Sony Computer Entertainment America's public relations department has issued...
is this a love/hate thing? I have visions that you in fact are sitting next to each other laughing as you decide what obscenities (sorry if spelt wrong)to spout next...
can you not pm each other, or maybe phone? instead of filling the threads with bickering?
There is debating and then is there a blatant sl@gging match.
Nah I wouldn't go as far as saying Sony is as bad as Microsoft, nice concise point made based on facts Nigel by the way Also I'd like to point this out yet again- here...
Sony Computer Entertainment America's public relations department has issued...
Now think about it carefully
Is this going to be the same situation when I was arguing a point with someone a few months ago when they said Sony's VP of some department or other doesn't represent Sony?
Unless it comes from the CEO, it doesn't count. Actually, if we all took comments like that from Sony/MS then we would all be a lot calmer. And this site would get a lot less traffic.
is this a love/hate thing? I have visions that you in fact are sitting next to each other laughing as you decide what obscenities (sorry if spelt wrong)to spout next...
can you not pm each other, or maybe phone? instead of filling the threads with bickering?
There is debating and then is there a blatant sl@gging match.
is this a love/hate thing? I have visions that you in fact are sitting next to each other laughing as you decide what obscenities (sorry if spelt wrong)to spout next...
can you not pm each other, or maybe phone? instead of filling the threads with bickering?
There is debating and then is there a blatant sl@gging match.
with Sony packing all that stuff into the PS3, therefore increasing its cost. doesn't that tell you that games don't want these add-ons? otherwise we'd all run out and buy PS3's?.
another thing is, this only shows how backward Sony are still thinking. the key to success is great software, not great hardware! its been two years in the PS3 market, and they still don't get it?
That sums it up for me. I do think the PS3 overall has better hardware and reliability than the Xbox 360, however I'm one of those gamers that cares little for Blu-Ray at present time and as for LIVE, HOME, etc. on either of the consoles I'm not interested in that either - I'll use my PC for online gaming. So while I think Sony does actually have a leg to stand on in this instance if one presumes that they are comparing gamers that want all of the features as opposed to people who may share my preferences for a console (i.e. a gaming machine first and foremost,) it's a moot point and thus the current pricing tags of the PS3 is too high in comparison to the selection MS offers which does a better job of offering budget, medium, and high console specs for people interested solely in gaming.
I read a comment on another website earlier today that this aggressive shameless self-advertisement by Sony (and yes, MS is no better and it's become part of "the market game" these days,) comes too late in the race and that this is the sort of comparison Sony should have been making from the onset of the PS3 being launched. I think that poster got it right.
ref to saying you need to spend 50+35 pounds to go on live
I don't see paying for live a problem , some sony ps3 owners see paying for live a problem because psn is free which i also have but I rather use live because it is better full stop .When people stop paying for live then microsoft need to look at it .|Do you think sony are offering their service for nothing because they like you? no its because they couldn't get away with charging for their service . plus you dont need a wireless adapter I dont use the wireless on my ps3.
"360 causes an Additional burden on the wallet"? This from the company that told me I should be happy to take a second or third job in order to afford a PS3? "futureproof console" LOL is he serious? Nothing in this day and age is futureproof it would be nice if it was though.
"360 causes an Additional burden on the wallet"? This from the company that told me I should be happy to take a second or third job in order to afford a PS3? "futureproof console" LOL is he serious? Nothing in this day and age is futureproof it would be nice if it was though.
Ok fair enough if you don't agree with that but isn't it true to a certain extent? Come on there is no denying here that MS are the best at ripping people off huh
As for the futureproof bit... http://mtbs3d.com/cgi-bin/rss.cgi?news_id=250
Nah I wouldn't go as far as saying Sony is as bad as Microsoft, nice concise point made based on facts Nigel by the way Also I'd like to point this out yet again- here...
Sony Computer Entertainment America's public relations department has issued...
Now think about it carefully
Is this going to be the same situation when I was arguing a point with someone a few months ago when they said Sony's VP of some department or other doesn't represent Sony?
Unless it comes from the CEO, it doesn't count. Actually, if we all took comments like that from Sony/MS then we would all be a lot calmer. And this site would get a lot less traffic.
well i do enjoy the music of tool that seminal prog rock band, with the best tracks on the new guitar hero.
good to know that you approve i'm going to keep you filed under h for humourless maybe cross reference you under P for PR1CK
A very nice turning of the tables in my opinion. Made me chuckle though I am not without some feeling of sympathy for Voodoo...Then again he did start with the personal insults so I suppose it's only poetic justice coming back to bite his rear end.
Nah I wouldn't go as far as saying Sony is as bad as Microsoft, nice concise point made based on facts Nigel by the way Also I'd like to point this out yet again- here...
Sony Computer Entertainment America's public relations department has issued...
did Sony ever think maybe ppl dont want huge HDD and blu ray and not everone wants or needs wireless either maybe ppl want a games console for games??????
At least nine out of ten people I know with a current gen console(or consoles) in their house have never hooked them up to the internet, or an HDTV, making all those extra features, like free online gaming, Blu-ray and large hard drives, completely pointless.
At least nine out of ten people I know with a current gen console(or consoles) in their house have never hooked them up to the internet, or an HDTV, making all those extra features, like free online gaming, Blu-ray and large hard drives, completely pointless.
360 premium 60gb - Ł159 360 wifi adapter - Ł45 360 play & charge cable - Ł10 (and it is longer than the PS3's 4 inch long cable) 1 year of LIVE - Ł35
360 total - Ł260
360 having pretty much all the same games, a better control pad, better online service, nobody gives a f**k about Blu Ray... oh look it's cheaper.
Yup. And in five years you will have paid an extra Ł175 for online gaming and god knows what to replace a faulty console or ten as the 3 year warranty only covers RROD and none of the other many issues.
At least nine out of ten people I know with a current gen console(or consoles) in their house have never hooked them up to the internet, or an HDTV, making all those extra features, like free online gaming, Blu-ray and large hard drives, completely pointless.
Are these real people?
Well, I'm not one of Ted's aforementioned private friends but I would fall squarely, smack dab in the middle of the demographic he described above if I were to purchase a console. I'll eventually buy a HD television but I'm good for now.
At least nine out of ten people I know with a current gen console(or consoles) in their house have never hooked them up to the internet, or an HDTV, making all those extra features, like free online gaming, Blu-ray and large hard drives, completely pointless.
Are these real people?
Why yes, yes they are, and maybe if you went out more you might meet some too(just don't make any sudden movements, they can be a little skittish).........
At least nine out of ten people I know with a current gen console(or consoles) in their house have never hooked them up to the internet, or an HDTV, making all those extra features, like free online gaming, Blu-ray and large hard drives, completely pointless.
Are these real people?
Why yes, yes they are, and maybe if you went out more you might meet some too(just don't make any sudden movements, they can be a little skittish).........
The thing is, I hardly know anyone with a current gen console who does not hook it up to a HDTV or internet. Now I realise some people are more well off than others but come on - 9 out of 10 people? Be serious..
In short - Your post seems a little pointless. Just my opinion
I gotta admit though, your post begs the question(s) - What sort of people do you know? How many people do you know?
At least nine out of ten people I know with a current gen console(or consoles) in their house have never hooked them up to the internet, or an HDTV, making all those extra features, like free online gaming, Blu-ray and large hard drives, completely pointless.
Are these real people?
Why yes, yes they are, and maybe if you went out more you might meet some too(just don't make any sudden movements, they can be a little skittish).........
The thing is, I hardly know anyone with a current gen console who does not hook it up to a HDTV or internet. Now I realise some people are more well off than others but come on - 9 out of 10 people? Be serious..
In short - Your post seems a little pointless. Just my opinion
I gotta admit though, your post begs the question(s) - What sort of people do you know? How many people do you know?
I fail to see how his comment/point is any less valid than yours. You seem to be dismissing his point because his personal circle of friends does not neatly fit within your previous hypothesis. Ironically his experience is no different than yours in terms of the fundamental mechanics involved except that you are on opposite sides of the field as it were.
At least nine out of ten people I know with a current gen console(or consoles) in their house have never hooked them up to the internet, or an HDTV, making all those extra features, like free online gaming, Blu-ray and large hard drives, completely pointless.
Are these real people?
Why yes, yes they are, and maybe if you went out more you might meet some too(just don't make any sudden movements, they can be a little skittish).........
The thing is, I hardly know anyone with a current gen console who does not hook it up to a HDTV or internet. Now I realise some people are more well off than others but come on - 9 out of 10 people? Be serious..
In short - Your post seems a little pointless. Just my opinion
I gotta admit though, your post begs the question(s) - What sort of people do you know? How many people do you know?
I was refering to people I know, not people in general.
I think most people on this site seem to forget not all gamers are clued up on the techy side of things, we asume that everyone knows what we know, and care about this stuff as much as us. The truth is that some people just buy a console and plug it into the telly, stick a game on and play it. Simple as that.
PS, about twenty years ago I worked in a record shop, and I'm not joking here, I had at least five different people return CDs, all with the same fault. What was this "fault" you ask? "the needle keeps slipping off the disc"!!
At least nine out of ten people I know with a current gen console(or consoles) in their house have never hooked them up to the internet, or an HDTV, making all those extra features, like free online gaming, Blu-ray and large hard drives, completely pointless.
Are these real people?
Why yes, yes they are, and maybe if you went out more you might meet some too(just don't make any sudden movements, they can be a little skittish).........
The thing is, I hardly know anyone with a current gen console who does not hook it up to a HDTV or internet. Now I realise some people are more well off than others but come on - 9 out of 10 people? Be serious..
In short - Your post seems a little pointless. Just my opinion
I gotta admit though, your post begs the question(s) - What sort of people do you know? How many people do you know?
I was refering to people I know, not people in general.
I think most people on this site seem to forget that the vast majority of gamers aren't all that clued up on the techy side of things, we asume that everyone knows what we know, and care about this stuff as much as us. The truth is that some people just buy a console and plug it into the telly, stick a game on and play it. Simple as that.
PS, about twenty years ago I worked in a record shop, and I'm not joking here, I had at least five different people return CDs, all with the same fault. What was this "fault" you ask? "the needle keeps slipping off the disc"!!
Fair enough, but that is why I did ask those questions at the end of my post
wii cant even come into this... this generation war is being fought between sony and microsoft... the wii has a completly different audience, and its high sales are reflective of its inovation, not its hold on the gaming market... im fortunate (unfortunate) enough to work in game retail and own a wii, 360 and a ps3... and why sony and microsoft keep attacking nintendo's wii is beyond me... that audience either own a wii and one of your machines already, or just a wii and will never own one of your machines... the wii is a fantastic bit of kit, but its a gadget anywho... i much prefer the choice of buying a console and putting what functionality i like onto it, rather than paying for everything at once without choice, as the numbers show so do most people... the one thing a lot of you guys are misconstruing slightly is the importance of blu ray... sales are 550% up quarter 4 2008, to 2007, and that is one of the reasons why ps3's numbers are starting to move upwards slightly... unfortunatly standalone players are coming down, there are sub Ł100.00 machines now and that will continue to fall, leaving 360 and a blu ray player cheaper than a ps3, combined!! sony need to slash prices, and they need to do it now!! the closeness and competition of this generation benefits us all however, and thats surely not a bad thing
360 premium 60gb - Ł159 360 wifi adapter - Ł45 360 play & charge cable - Ł10 (and it is longer than the PS3's 4 inch long cable) 1 year of LIVE - Ł35
360 total - Ł260
360 having pretty much all the same games, a better control pad, better online service, nobody gives a f**k about Blu Ray... oh look it's cheaper.
Yup. And in five years you will have paid an extra Ł175 for online gaming and god knows what to replace a faulty console or ten as the 3 year warranty only covers RROD and none of the other many issues.
Duh!!!
LIVE is vastly superior to PSN. You wouldn't know that because you've never used it. You really have Sony's c**k shoved so far up your bottom that the bellend is sticking out of your mouth. LOL.
He, He...Sony are desperate now. The beginning of the end for Sony in the console bussiness..
For sure. If they really are the cheapest as their pathetic chart claims, then they shouldn't be last and falling further and further behind should they? Haha.
This isn't the first time Fony have claimed this anyway. They did it back in 2006: -
They really are the most pathetic company on the planet, and they're only marginally better than the sad, deluded dweeblets that seem to think the Sun shines out of their bottom. LOL.
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