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Tecmo Koei: "Please cut the price" of PS3

CEO Kenji Matsubara "would welcome a price cut for PS3"
CEO of the newly-formed publisher Tecmo Koei, Kenji Matsubara, has said he "would welcome a price cut for PS3", and has made his request known to Sony in past meetings.

"Whenever I discuss this with Sony reps I always ask them: 'Please cut the price', but I don't have a clear view on Sony's situation," Matsubara told CVG during an interview.

"Yes, from a publisher's point of view we would welcome a price cut for PS3, and we are waiting, definitely," he added.

"It's definitely a way of boosting the PS3 market, but it's Sony's strategy and I don't know their cost structure. Sony introduced cutting-edge technology in the PS3, that's why people in the industry accept that the PS3 cost is so high, but we'd welcome a price cut."

Read the full interview with Matsubara here.

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enough of these price cut stories, isnt it common knowledge that the price cut is due before xmas
J1GSAW on 3 Jul '09
I'm sure there'll be a price cut before Christmas. They'll announce it at TGS and it'll be here around 3 months from now. Probably only about 50 quid though. Don't care anyway,already have one.
Samildanach on 3 Jul '09
I'm sure when PS3 price cut is officially announced, the internet'll blow up!

Will be the biggest news in this gen.
wildhook2 on 3 Jul '09
Console needs to be £199, with GT5 on the shelves. Then I'll buy. Project Trico could help convince me too. Don't think anything from Koei will.
yerbluesjohn on 3 Jul '09
Oh f**k off CVG!! with you useless fanboy bait I would pay 500 quid again for a ps3 tomorrow if I had to (and I've had it since launch and I've used it almost daily). Just try making me buy another xbox 360 if my elite goes (on 4th machine in total and rarely play it due to lack of exciting games gears 1 and 2 is it) Value for money FTW. Smile even my pc is clapping out coz of lousy Vista.
gogo65uk on 3 Jul '09
Oh f**k off CVG!! with you useless fanboy bait I would pay 500 quid again for a ps3 tomorrow if I had to (and I've had it since launch and I've used it almost daily). Just try making me buy another xbox 360 if my elite goes (on 4th machine in total and rarely play it due to lack of exciting games gears 1 and 2 is it) Value for money FTW. Smileeven my pc is clapping out coz of lousy Vista.

You too? My Vista is playing up too - What a piece of crap!
wildhook2 on 3 Jul '09
I've had my PS3 for just over a year and I wish I had waited for a price cut, as it's hardly used now.
I still own Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank and Little Big Planet, but until uncharted 2 arrives I'm afraid it's just going to be sitting there. Confused
steve_2003 on 3 Jul '09
I'm not sure they will cut the price here in Europe, 'cause if they do it'll end up the same price as a PSP GO. Confused
ted1138 on 3 Jul '09
I paid over £300 for Elite when it came out so paying the same price for a PS3 was no big deal to me, I like both machines and exclusives on both machines....what I think is lacking is PSN vs XBL..XBL superior by far atm...but MS doing advertising on console dashboards is making me lean towards my PS3 more these days what rumour or PS2 emulation possible in future...other wise both consoles rock..both have their good points and their flaws...I like bothSmile
skidpro on 3 Jul '09
Sony should cut the price to £150 in the UK.

The system retails for $399.99 in the US with reports of a $100 price cut soon. At £150 in the UK, the price would be on the same level as the US if such a price cut takes place.

I don't see why we in the UK should pay more for the hardware. I personally wouldn't pay more than £150 for the PS3.
Zero_Cool on 3 Jul '09
If the PS3 is to do anything this gen it needs to be cut to £99 with a couple of games thrown in.
pedroukuk on 3 Jul '09
Heh, based on their current philosophy with the PSP Go they'll probably wait till the launch of the slim version, remove a few features and bump up the price to £500...
cjw101 on 3 Jul '09
The PS3 is cheap for what you get. Free online, no batteries to buy, Blu-ray and other media player, awesome bundled game, Home, etc.
Sir_Whisky on 3 Jul '09
The PS3 is cheap for what you get. Free online, no batteries to buy, Blu-ray and other media player, awesome bundled game, Home, etc.

Finally, a sensible statement regarding the PS3's price.

People calling for it to be reduced to things like £99, or even £150 WITH games, are really dreaming or are just plain stupid. No console of this generation is going for that price. (Perhaps the Xbox 360 arcade version, but remember that it doesn't come with a hard drive, etc.)
jm2008 on 4 Jul '09
ZOMG, go web community. I've never seen a thread with so much praise for the ps3. It's a great machine, I've had mine since launch, the only trouble i've had is due to me downloading stuff it doesn't like. I've learnt from my mistakes and its still going strong. and for the price, you're getting a strong console that will last.
RandyChimp on 4 Jul '09
Sony can not reduce the price in Uk to the dollar price because of tax & vat rates in the UK differ & are often higher than other parts of the world.

That being said Sony have said they are making money on the hardware so there is room for a price cut how much of a cut remains to be seen but its sony's reluctance to do so that is costing them in the long run.

Big devs & publishers are starting to get a little cold towards the ps3, the consoles price is one factor for this but another I think is the fact that 3rd party games do not sell as well on ps3 as the 360 versions & I am not sure that more consoles sold will change that radically either.

I think MS headstart is hurting sony more than they want to admit the 360 offers most of the same third party games sometimes better on 360 thanks to exclusive dlc even if its timed the lamen do not understand this they only understand the exclusive not whether its timed or permanent.

2nd the 360's price is in the best position now & any cut sony issue will most likely be mirrored by ms with the 360 & ps3 has only one 1 million seller even in the us Resistance fall of man thats not including bundled software which is pretty poor for a machine thats been out as long as ps3 has now.

As for some who say that devs will not abandon ps3 then think again it did not take devs long to abandon the dreamcast, gamecube & the original xbox & they still had decent size user bases when devs started leaving them to.

If devs can recoup their money from other areas such as pc & 360 & they do not make enough on ps3 to justify another team coding the games then it may get left behind its all about getting a decent return on your investment & some devs do not think they are getting that on ps3 sales.
Richyrich316 on 4 Jul '09
£150 and £99?

Your hilarious

Dont compare to dollars you silly monkey.

It's already cheap, and from launch have lost so much money on the console...so this cry of price cut is rather funny.

Don't get me wrong, it was too expensive for the market...but for what it is...it was a steal for the price. With cheaper production costs, plenty of cost cutting measures....the ps3 will drop in price...but not to £150...lol
stedman on 4 Jul '09
Oh f**k off CVG!! with you useless fanboy bait I would pay 500 quid again for a ps3 tomorrow if I had to (and I've had it since launch and I've used it almost daily). Just try making me buy another xbox 360 if my elite goes (on 4th machine in total and rarely play it due to lack of exciting games gears 1 and 2 is it) Value for money FTW. Smile even my pc is clapping out coz of lousy Vista.

500 quid for a console? Laughing Talk about being led around by the nose.
The_KFD_Case on 4 Jul '09
The PS3 is cheap for what you get. Free online, no batteries to buy, Blu-ray and other media player, awesome bundled game, Home, etc.

Yet it's hardly the best deal if a person wants to play games, be able to watch DVDs, doesn't care about Blu-Ray, isn't looking to play online with the console from the get-go and already has some regular rechargeable batteries with a charger (which can be picked up at a low price these days). For people like that - of which I am one - the PS3 is no where near competitive enough.

The PS3 hasn't been a complete disaster but it hasn't taken the lead and it doesn't look like it's going to catch up and overtake anytime soon (if at all). I'd be very surprised if Sony manages to do so before a new console is released (2011-2013 would be my guess,) short of offering significant price cuts. The more time goes by the more it seems to be a case of "too little, too late" on Sony's behalf. Oh, and losing the plot with 230-250 quid for another gaming product like the PSP Go doesn't exactly inspire much faith that the Sony board of executive, randomly decision dart throwning chimps are in touch with reality.
The_KFD_Case on 4 Jul '09


It's already cheap, and from launch have lost so much money on the console...so this cry of price cut is rather funny.

I think you should enter the re-education program!
Zero_Cool on 4 Jul '09
hahahaha "random decision making dart throwing chimps"

I like it... lol
ewko117 on 4 Jul '09

People calling for it to be reduced to things like £99, or even £150 WITH games, are really dreaming or are just plain stupid.

When the price of the PS3 comes down to a price i think is fair for the system i.e. no more than £150, then i'll be the one laughing my ass off at those who paid £300 for it.
Zero_Cool on 4 Jul '09


Your hilarious

It's "you're"

f**king idiot!
Zero_Cool on 4 Jul '09
They really need to drop the price to £69.99, with a free unicorn & world peace thrown in. It would be a must buy for me then.
jamieleng on 4 Jul '09
I think the rumour of Activision halting licencing to Sony in 2010 has burned them a little bit. I've heard many people saying that this could be the end as Activison do own some of the most popular games on the market. It would only take EA to say the same thing for sony to panic.
deano ward on 4 Jul '09
Come on Sony, this is getting beyond silly!

There are now numerous Publishers, not developers, telling you the same story, the world is in a massive depression!

Only today in the UK, BT are asking their employee's to take a Year's holiday on 25% pay... but STILL you refuse to lower the console price...is it pride or desperation? and judging by the PSP-Go, I fear it may be the latter!
Tonyb on 4 Jul '09

People calling for it to be reduced to things like £99, or even £150 WITH games, are really dreaming or are just plain stupid.

When the price of the PS3 comes down to a price i think is fair for the system i.e. no more than £150, then i'll be the one laughing my ass off at those who paid £300 for it.

OK, so what you're saying basically is that YOU think that the PS3 is only worth £150. It's not that the technology is worth more than that, but that you wouldn't pay more than that for a PS3. Would you pay more than that for a Wii (Which debuted at £180, I believe - possibly more)? Because the technology in the PS3 is far more extensive and expensive. Try to be clear whether you find the technology genuinely not worth the money, or if you're an anti-PS3 fanboy. I'm not quite sure which you seem to be.
jm2008 on 4 Jul '09
If Sony dropped the price to £12.99 and threw in every game, a house in the country, a helicopter, a new Ferrari and a bag of Haribo I reckon they'd sell loads.

God Sony, what are you playing at? Some folk may think that you are trying to earn some dosh! You daft buggers....

No, what Sony should do (according to the clowns on this site) is drop the price to £99.99 with a couple of games, go bump, p**s off the existing 20+million owners because there would be no more support and then disappear into obscurity. This would then allow MS to take over the console market without the need to release quality games because of no competition.

Absolute genius.
Mark240473 on 4 Jul '09
^^ Oops!
Some one has woken No1 Sony fanboy! I love it when this snooker cue ( thats pr1ck by the way) and other fanboys get upset! Laughing
BYDO on 5 Jul '09
Come on Sony, this is getting beyond silly!

There are now numerous Publishers, not developers, telling you the same story, the world is in a massive depression!

Only today in the UK, BT are asking their employee's to take a Year's holiday on 25% pay... but STILL you refuse to lower the console price...is it pride or desperation? and judging by the PSP-Go, I fear it may be the latter!

if they were desperate, they would have lowered it already. they have much to gain from cutting the price, but will do so when it suits them best. they are a company - already losing money on each one sold - sony dont interfere with the ridiculous prices that publishers sell them gimpy rock band/guitar hero games at.

one game and a plastic guitar costs more than half the price of the console itself!

desperation is selling a next-gen, high definition console for under £100... £70 less than the low tech, low resolution wii.
svd_grasshopper on 5 Jul '09
I think the rumour of Activision halting licencing to Sony in 2010 has burned them a little bit. I've heard many people saying that this could be the end as Activison do own some of the most popular games on the market. It would only take EA to say the same thing for sony to panic.

yeah, because selling 4+ million copies of CoD4 and 1+ million copies of World Tour was the most horrible thing the PS3 could've done to Activision. EA too would be wise to scrap a userbase of 23 million, what with the PS3 accounting for nearly 40% of next-gen Madden '09 sales, nearly matching the 360 in Dead Space and Mirror's Edge sales, and actually outperforming the 360 in Burnout Paradise and Fifa '09 sales. Rolling Eyes
atrimus on 5 Jul '09
THIS SHHIT IS UNBELIVABLE YOU COULDNT MAKE IT UP AND IF YOU DID NOBODY WOULD BELEIVE YOU THE INDUSTRY IS SUCKING UP TO A DEAD FORMAT AND ACTING LIKE SAD ACT SONY FANBOYS DID NINTENDP GET SUCH BLIND SUPPORT WEN GC WASNT DOING WELL DID THE INDUSTRY CRY OUT IN UNISON FOR DREAMCAST IN LAST PLACE I THINK NOT

SO WHY 0N GODS EARTH IS THE INDUSTRY SUCKING SONYS SMALL ONE AND ACTING LIKE A GIGGLY BROS FANBIATCH IT ONLY SHOWS THE BIAS/IMATURITY/IDIOCY OF THIS STANK INDUSTRY JUST FORGRT PS3 EVERYBODY ELSE HAS

theres a console called wii doing ever so well SUPPORT IT FOOLS
wiigodboy101 on 6 Jul '09
Wiigodboy for once does have a point....kind of

I can understand devs wanting ps3 to do well afterall competition is good for the industry.

But the point of his i agree with is that devs should show more decent support for Wii and not some of the rubbish they release for it.
Richyrich316 on 6 Jul '09
All my wii does is support dust, sorry mate its s**te. You poor deluded fool
theholyone on 6 Jul '09
Wiigodboy for once does have a point....kind of

I can understand devs wanting ps3 to do well afterall competition is good for the industry.

But the point of his i agree with is that devs should show more decent support for Wii and not some of the rubbish they release for it.

I agree with you that (surprisingly,) Wiigodboy has made a coherent point: In times past when other consoles have struggled they have been dropped so why should the PS3 be any different? The answer is quite simple: If things get bad enough it shouldn't.

That said I suspect the PS3 has performed better than the GC and the Dreamcast, but that's just a guess since I haven't checked the sales figures.
The_KFD_Case on 6 Jul '09
Wiigodboy for once does have a point....kind of

I can understand devs wanting ps3 to do well afterall competition is good for the industry.

But the point of his i agree with is that devs should show more decent support for Wii and not some of the rubbish they release for it.

I agree with you that (surprisingly,) Wiigodboy has made a coherent point: In times past when other consoles have struggled they have been dropped so why should the PS3 be any different? The answer is quite simple: If things get bad enough it shouldn't.

That said I suspect the PS3 has performed better than the GC and the Dreamcast, but that's just a guess since I haven't checked the sales figures.

I tell you what I find interesting. If any other company had released the 360, they would have most certainly gone bump by now. Those Rrod's would have killed most companies stone dead. Remember that as you sip on your green tea.
Mark240473 on 6 Jul '09
Ok here is a question for the people saying for the tech in the PS3 it is a bargain(which I do agree with), how much of that tech is required to physically play games? Ok M$ofts add-on pricing is not cheap ( I refuse to pay for most of it) but it does mean they can sell a "games machine" for around £100 which in todays climate is good. Sony need to try something to drop the price but what they can do is anybody's guess.
lonewolf2002 on 6 Jul '09
Ok here is a question for the people saying for the tech in the PS3 it is a bargain(which I do agree with), how much of that tech is required to physically play games? Ok M$ofts add-on pricing is not cheap ( I refuse to pay for most of it) but it does mean they can sell a "games machine" for around £100 which in todays climate is good. Sony need to try something to drop the price but what they can do is anybody's guess.

Well, I can see a price cut coming in a roundabout way.

I suspect that the PS3-Slim will be released at the same price point of the current PS3 model - with all the same components (Blu-Ray etc), this will force the price of the standard PS3 down...which Sony will still manufacture.

Smile
ParmaViolet on 6 Jul '09

I tell you what I find interesting. If any other company had released the 360, they would have most certainly gone bump by now. Those Rrod's would have killed most companies stone dead. Remember that as you sip on your green tea.

So? Microsoft could afford it, so they're still up and running. Not really that interesting? Confused

Could say much the same thing about Sony and their laptop battery fiasco of a few years back...
cjw101 on 6 Jul '09

I tell you what I find interesting. If any other company had released the 360, they would have most certainly gone bump by now. Those Rrod's would have killed most companies stone dead. Remember that as you sip on your green tea.

So? Microsoft could afford it, so they're still up and running. Not really that interesting? Confused

Could say much the same thing about Sony and their laptop battery fiasco of a few years back...

Mmm. That battery fiasco, as you rightly put it, was (if I remember rightly) confined to the Eastern market and not the whole world. And that wasn't really relevant was it? I mean, I don't think it fell into billions lost, did it?
Mark240473 on 6 Jul '09
It was global, and certainly cost several hundred million dollars. OK, the RROD cost probably 5 times as much, but then MS make an awful lot more money than Sony do - so I reckon it's a relevent comparison.
cjw101 on 6 Jul '09
Wiigodboy for once does have a point....kind of

I can understand devs wanting ps3 to do well afterall competition is good for the industry.

But the point of his i agree with is that devs should show more decent support for Wii and not some of the rubbish they release for it.

I agree with you that (surprisingly,) Wiigodboy has made a coherent point: In times past when other consoles have struggled they have been dropped so why should the PS3 be any different? The answer is quite simple: If things get bad enough it shouldn't.

That said I suspect the PS3 has performed better than the GC and the Dreamcast, but that's just a guess since I haven't checked the sales figures.

I tell you what I find interesting. If any other company had released the 360, they would have most certainly gone bump by now. Those Rrod's would have killed most companies stone dead. Remember that as you sip on your green tea.

You would be right..if MS hadn't done the right thing (after doing the wrong thing of releasing an error prone console,) by paying for transport and reparation costs for RRoD'ed Xbox 360s. While you sip on your bitter grapes let me point out that Sony charges you an additional 150 pounds to repair the PS3. The green tea isn't too bad really. Wink
The_KFD_Case on 6 Jul '09
Wiigodboy for once does have a point....kind of

I can understand devs wanting ps3 to do well afterall competition is good for the industry.

But the point of his i agree with is that devs should show more decent support for Wii and not some of the rubbish they release for it.

I agree with you that (surprisingly,) Wiigodboy has made a coherent point: In times past when other consoles have struggled they have been dropped so why should the PS3 be any different? The answer is quite simple: If things get bad enough it shouldn't.

That said I suspect the PS3 has performed better than the GC and the Dreamcast, but that's just a guess since I haven't checked the sales figures.

I tell you what I find interesting. If any other company had released the 360, they would have most certainly gone bump by now. Those Rrod's would have killed most companies stone dead. Remember that as you sip on your green tea.

You would be right..if MS hadn't done the right thing (after doing the wrong thing of releasing an error prone console,) by paying for transport and reparation costs for RRoD'ed Xbox 360s. While you sip on your bitter grapes let me point out that Sony charges you an additional 150 pounds to repair the PS3. The green tea isn't too bad really. Wink

*Spits out grape juice*

£150!

Really? My PS3 went t**s-up last November. I rang Sony and they told me that I'd have to wait 28 days for another 60gb (apparently they have to build them from scratch), or alternatively I could have a 80gb one instead, within a week. I went for the 80gb one because I never used BC anyway. More importantly, they charged me nothing for the service.

Maybe they charge £150 to repair a mis-treated PS3, but not one with a hardware problem.

And that's coming from somebody with first hand experience and not some random 360 fangirl blogger.

Try and get your facts right.
Mark240473 on 6 Jul '09
Wiigodboy for once does have a point....kind of

I can understand devs wanting ps3 to do well afterall competition is good for the industry.

But the point of his i agree with is that devs should show more decent support for Wii and not some of the rubbish they release for it.

I agree with you that (surprisingly,) Wiigodboy has made a coherent point: In times past when other consoles have struggled they have been dropped so why should the PS3 be any different? The answer is quite simple: If things get bad enough it shouldn't.

That said I suspect the PS3 has performed better than the GC and the Dreamcast, but that's just a guess since I haven't checked the sales figures.

I tell you what I find interesting. If any other company had released the 360, they would have most certainly gone bump by now. Those Rrod's would have killed most companies stone dead. Remember that as you sip on your green tea.

You would be right..if MS hadn't done the right thing (after doing the wrong thing of releasing an error prone console,) by paying for transport and reparation costs for RRoD'ed Xbox 360s. While you sip on your bitter grapes let me point out that Sony charges you an additional 150 pounds to repair the PS3. The green tea isn't too bad really. Wink

*Spits out grape juice*

£150!

Really? My PS3 went t**s-up last November. I rang Sony and they told me that I'd have to wait 28 days for another 60gb (apparently they have to build them from scratch), or alternatively I could have a 80gb one instead, within a week. I went for the 80gb one because I never used BC anyway. More importantly, they charged me nothing for the service.

Maybe they charge £150 to repair a mis-treated PS3, but not one with a hardware problem.

And that's coming from somebody with first hand experience and not some random 360 fangirl blogger.

Try and get your facts right.

Tut tut. Touched the ever sensitive PS3 rabid fanboy/Sony's bitch nerve, did I? Laughing
The_KFD_Case on 6 Jul '09
Wiigodboy for once does have a point....kind of

I can understand devs wanting ps3 to do well afterall competition is good for the industry.

But the point of his i agree with is that devs should show more decent support for Wii and not some of the rubbish they release for it.

I agree with you that (surprisingly,) Wiigodboy has made a coherent point: In times past when other consoles have struggled they have been dropped so why should the PS3 be any different? The answer is quite simple: If things get bad enough it shouldn't.

That said I suspect the PS3 has performed better than the GC and the Dreamcast, but that's just a guess since I haven't checked the sales figures.

I tell you what I find interesting. If any other company had released the 360, they would have most certainly gone bump by now. Those Rrod's would have killed most companies stone dead. Remember that as you sip on your green tea.

You would be right..if MS hadn't done the right thing (after doing the wrong thing of releasing an error prone console,) by paying for transport and reparation costs for RRoD'ed Xbox 360s. While you sip on your bitter grapes let me point out that Sony charges you an additional 150 pounds to repair the PS3. The green tea isn't too bad really. Wink

*Spits out grape juice*

£150!

Really? My PS3 went t**s-up last November. I rang Sony and they told me that I'd have to wait 28 days for another 60gb (apparently they have to build them from scratch), or alternatively I could have a 80gb one instead, within a week. I went for the 80gb one because I never used BC anyway. More importantly, they charged me nothing for the service.

Maybe they charge £150 to repair a mis-treated PS3, but not one with a hardware problem.

And that's coming from somebody with first hand experience and not some random 360 fangirl blogger.

Try and get your facts right.

Tut tut. Touched the ever sensitive PS3 rabid fanboy/Sony's bitch nerve, did I? Laughing

Nope, I just didn't like the smell of bulls**t. Laughing
Mark240473 on 6 Jul '09
Wiigodboy for once does have a point....kind of

I can understand devs wanting ps3 to do well afterall competition is good for the industry.

But the point of his i agree with is that devs should show more decent support for Wii and not some of the rubbish they release for it.

I agree with you that (surprisingly,) Wiigodboy has made a coherent point: In times past when other consoles have struggled they have been dropped so why should the PS3 be any different? The answer is quite simple: If things get bad enough it shouldn't.

That said I suspect the PS3 has performed better than the GC and the Dreamcast, but that's just a guess since I haven't checked the sales figures.

I tell you what I find interesting. If any other company had released the 360, they would have most certainly gone bump by now. Those Rrod's would have killed most companies stone dead. Remember that as you sip on your green tea.

You would be right..if MS hadn't done the right thing (after doing the wrong thing of releasing an error prone console,) by paying for transport and reparation costs for RRoD'ed Xbox 360s. While you sip on your bitter grapes let me point out that Sony charges you an additional 150 pounds to repair the PS3. The green tea isn't too bad really. Wink

*Spits out grape juice*

£150!

Really? My PS3 went t**s-up last November. I rang Sony and they told me that I'd have to wait 28 days for another 60gb (apparently they have to build them from scratch), or alternatively I could have a 80gb one instead, within a week. I went for the 80gb one because I never used BC anyway. More importantly, they charged me nothing for the service.

Maybe they charge £150 to repair a mis-treated PS3, but not one with a hardware problem.

And that's coming from somebody with first hand experience and not some random 360 fangirl blogger.

Try and get your facts right.

Tut tut. Touched the ever sensitive PS3 rabid fanboy/Sony's bitch nerve, did I? Laughing

Nope, I just didn't like the smell of bulls**t. Laughing

Go shower then. Cool
The_KFD_Case on 6 Jul '09
Wiigodboy for once does have a point....kind of

I can understand devs wanting ps3 to do well afterall competition is good for the industry.

But the point of his i agree with is that devs should show more decent support for Wii and not some of the rubbish they release for it.

I agree with you that (surprisingly,) Wiigodboy has made a coherent point: In times past when other consoles have struggled they have been dropped so why should the PS3 be any different? The answer is quite simple: If things get bad enough it shouldn't.

That said I suspect the PS3 has performed better than the GC and the Dreamcast, but that's just a guess since I haven't checked the sales figures.

I tell you what I find interesting. If any other company had released the 360, they would have most certainly gone bump by now. Those Rrod's would have killed most companies stone dead. Remember that as you sip on your green tea.

You would be right..if MS hadn't done the right thing (after doing the wrong thing of releasing an error prone console,) by paying for transport and reparation costs for RRoD'ed Xbox 360s. While you sip on your bitter grapes let me point out that Sony charges you an additional 150 pounds to repair the PS3. The green tea isn't too bad really. Wink

*Spits out grape juice*

£150!

Really? My PS3 went t**s-up last November. I rang Sony and they told me that I'd have to wait 28 days for another 60gb (apparently they have to build them from scratch), or alternatively I could have a 80gb one instead, within a week. I went for the 80gb one because I never used BC anyway. More importantly, they charged me nothing for the service.

Maybe they charge £150 to repair a mis-treated PS3, but not one with a hardware problem.

And that's coming from somebody with first hand experience and not some random 360 fangirl blogger.

Try and get your facts right.

Tut tut. Touched the ever sensitive PS3 rabid fanboy/Sony's bitch nerve, did I? Laughing

Nope, I just didn't like the smell of bulls**t. Laughing

Go shower then. Cool

Ho ho ho, and a pocket full of rum. Your school-yard humour is top drawer. Ever thought of learning how to walk on your hands? You certainly know how to talk out of your backside. Wink
Mark240473 on 6 Jul '09

£150!

Really? My PS3 went t**s-up last November. I rang Sony and they told me that I'd have to wait 28 days for another 60gb (apparently they have to build them from scratch), or alternatively I could have a 80gb one instead, within a week. I went for the 80gb one because I never used BC anyway. More importantly, they charged me nothing for the service.

Maybe they charge £150 to repair a mis-treated PS3, but not one with a hardware problem.

I'll back you there Mark, Sony did the same for me. a 80gb model in a few days or a few weeks for the original 60gb absolutely free. i think mines was more then a year old as well. plus they seemed to think i had a copy of GTA4 lodged in the disc tray and kindly sent that out to me as well. now only if i had the box for it i could trade it in.
the only downside was i lost all of my gamesaves and had to get rid of LBP as i just could not be bottomd going through all those training missions again.
ensabahnur on 6 Jul '09

£150!

Really? My PS3 went t**s-up last November. I rang Sony and they told me that I'd have to wait 28 days for another 60gb (apparently they have to build them from scratch), or alternatively I could have a 80gb one instead, within a week. I went for the 80gb one because I never used BC anyway. More importantly, they charged me nothing for the service.

Maybe they charge £150 to repair a mis-treated PS3, but not one with a hardware problem.

I'll back you there Mark, Sony did the same for me. a 80gb model in a few days or a few weeks for the original 60gb absolutely free. i think mines was more then a year old as well. plus they seemed to think i had a copy of GTA4 lodged in the disc tray and kindly sent that out to me as well. now only if i had the box for it i could trade it in.
the only downside was i lost all of my gamesaves and had to get rid of LBP as i just could not be bottomd going through all those training missions again.

Blimey, matey, almost a mirror image. Swap Resistance 2 for GTA4 and 'snap'.

I kept LBP, but like you said, it is a real head-ache having to go through those tutorials again, so I don't blame you at all.

The one thing that narked me the most was losing my WipoutHD save. Mega ouch! I had just 2 races to complete on the hardest difficulty! Crying or Very sad
Mark240473 on 6 Jul '09


The one thing that narked me the most was losing my WipoutHD save. Mega ouch! I had just 2 races to complete on the hardest difficulty! Crying or Very sad
it was Uncharted for me, i was half way through the hardest difficulty on my way to my first platinum. then bang, have to play through the game again to unlock said difficulty. still haven't done it yet Crying or Very sad

and that's more like "mirror, mirror" GTA4 being good and Resistance 2 being evil. did it come with a goatee?
ensabahnur on 6 Jul '09


The one thing that narked me the most was losing my WipoutHD save. Mega ouch! I had just 2 races to complete on the hardest difficulty! Crying or Very sad
it was Uncharted for me, i was half way through the hardest difficulty on my way to my first platinum. then bang, have to play through the game again to unlock said difficulty. still haven't done it yet Crying or Very sad

and that's more like "mirror, mirror" GTA4 being good and Resistance 2 being evil. did it come with a goatee?

On a positive note, at least we got to keep our trophies.

I think that I was one of the 3 people who enjoyed Resistance 2! I was on the last segment of the hardest difficulty on that game too..... Evil or Very Mad So yeah, you could call it evil, I suppose.
Mark240473 on 6 Jul '09


The one thing that narked me the most was losing my WipoutHD save. Mega ouch! I had just 2 races to complete on the hardest difficulty! Crying or Very sad
it was Uncharted for me, i was half way through the hardest difficulty on my way to my first platinum. then bang, have to play through the game again to unlock said difficulty. still haven't done it yet Crying or Very sad

and that's more like "mirror, mirror" GTA4 being good and Resistance 2 being evil. did it come with a goatee?

On a positive note, at least we got to keep our trophies.

I think that I was one of the 3 people who enjoyed Resistance 2! I was on the last segment of the hardest difficulty on that game too..... Evil or Very Mad So yeah, you could call it evil, I suppose.
did not like the game and got bored about halfway through, strange thing is i see more people on my friends list playing the original Resistance than any other game. and i thought that was even more s**te than the 2nd one.
ensabahnur on 6 Jul '09


The one thing that narked me the most was losing my WipoutHD save. Mega ouch! I had just 2 races to complete on the hardest difficulty! Crying or Very sad
it was Uncharted for me, i was half way through the hardest difficulty on my way to my first platinum. then bang, have to play through the game again to unlock said difficulty. still haven't done it yet Crying or Very sad

and that's more like "mirror, mirror" GTA4 being good and Resistance 2 being evil. did it come with a goatee?

On a positive note, at least we got to keep our trophies.

I think that I was one of the 3 people who enjoyed Resistance 2! I was on the last segment of the hardest difficulty on that game too..... Evil or Very Mad So yeah, you could call it evil, I suppose.
did not like the game and got bored about halfway through, strange thing is i see more people on my friends list playing the original Resistance than any other game. and i thought that was s**te as well.

I can understand why folk are still playing the first game because the multiplayer was a hell of a lot of fun. The grenade kills were hilarious, especially when you got a group of enemies together and they all boomed across the map in the arm-flailing death formation. Laughing I have fond memories of that game. R2 is nowhere near as good in multiplayer.
Mark240473 on 6 Jul '09


The one thing that narked me the most was losing my WipoutHD save. Mega ouch! I had just 2 races to complete on the hardest difficulty! Crying or Very sad
it was Uncharted for me, i was half way through the hardest difficulty on my way to my first platinum. then bang, have to play through the game again to unlock said difficulty. still haven't done it yet Crying or Very sad

and that's more like "mirror, mirror" GTA4 being good and Resistance 2 being evil. did it come with a goatee?

On a positive note, at least we got to keep our trophies.

I think that I was one of the 3 people who enjoyed Resistance 2! I was on the last segment of the hardest difficulty on that game too..... Evil or Very Mad So yeah, you could call it evil, I suppose.
did not like the game and got bored about halfway through, strange thing is i see more people on my friends list playing the original Resistance than any other game. and i thought that was s**te as well.

I can understand why folk are still playing the first game because the multiplayer was a hell of a lot of fun. The grenade kills were hilarious, especially when you got a group of enemies together and they all boomed across the map in the arm-flailing death formation. Laughing I have fond memories of that game. R2 is nowhere near as good in multiplayer.
that'll be why then. only really played the original online a few times. i'd just got the PS3 and being used to XboxLive i found the PS3's online to be a unwelcoming place with deathly silence.
add a few friends with mic's and its a lot better as i've found with games like Killzone and Motorstorm PR.
ensabahnur on 6 Jul '09
So I see people still whinging about RROD, then talk up Sony for repairing their apparently faultless PS3's...hhmmm

Well Sony do not have much choice but to repair them for free really because MS have been reparing 360's for zilch & even extending the warranty ok so they f'd up initially with the RROD yada yada blah blah I am sick of people bleeting on about it if your machine went t**s up it got fixed by MS for free & you even got a longer warranty on top what are you complaining about? & yes RROD happend to me as well but I did not have any reason to bitch because my console got replaced with a new 1 no questions asked.

Nintendo have to be the best in this regard though I mean they were still repairing NES's up until last september now that is service.
Richyrich316 on 6 Jul '09
Because its the rate of 360s going wrong and the reason..poor build quality.
Ps3s rarely go wrong, but when they do it gets sorted quickly...as shown above.

I think Ted has a good point way back, how can they drop the price of a ps3 when the pspgo is going to be £250? It wouldnt make much sense.

Sony have made a right mess of this generation. I love my ps3, but id rather have my DS (3 years going strong, still gets played every day or so) than my ps3.

Better games on the whole as well...need more decent RPGs sony...less FPS crap
jazzy_p on 7 Jul '09
The most telling fact this gen is that the only company that did not want to compete power vs power of their hardware & the one that did not for the most part get embroiled in everyone elses business & just concentrated on what they are doing is winning.

Love the DS & Wii or not you have to tip your hats to Ninty especially after the last gen.
Richyrich316 on 7 Jul '09
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