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Iwata: Wii, PS3 are "neck and neck in Japan"

Wii decline and PS3 boost brings console into close contention
Nintendo boss man Satoru Iwata has said the Wii and PS3 are "neck and neck" in Japan following a sharp decline in sales of Nintendo's console.

"A notable dip can be seen in sales of Wii this year, which is approximately half the size of last year," said Iwata during a recent financial results briefing. "On the other hand, Sony's PlayStation 3 showed a good transition and they increased unit sales by around 50 percent."

He went on: "The sheer contrast of the two platforms has often been reported lately. Although we held more than a 60 percent hardware market share through last year, Wii has 42 percent and PS3 40 percent share thus far this year so both machines are neck and neck in Japan."

Iwata showed off colourful graphs displaying Wii's continuing dominance in Europe and the US, and the overall decline in the home console market in 2009.

The full presentation can be seen here. It's quite interesting, if you're in to that sort of thing.

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While the 360 sits in the corner, sobbing.......*sniff*

I was wondering when the Wii's campaign of global dominance would stall. And fair one on Sony for playing catchup.
nottsville on 3 Nov '09
This is only in Japan though. Which is now officially the worlds smallest gaming market. Everywhere else it's still Nintendo, MS, Sony in terms of market share.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 3 Nov '09
I think the release of the new Final Fantasy may put the PS3 ahead of the Wii for the year.

Not that I care so much for these things, but PS3 still has a lot to do in Europe and especially the US to compete globally.

Still, nobody wants to see dominance.
Mark240473 on 3 Nov '09
True. Good to hear that FF XIII won't have an install on the PS3 either.

I agree that dominance by any one company would be bad for the industry. Keeps things fresh and interesting. Also what would we have to bitch about on the net when works going slow.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 3 Nov '09
True. Good to hear that FF XIII won't have an install on the PS3 either.

I agree that dominance by any one company would be bad for the industry. Keeps things fresh and interesting. Also what would we have to bitch about on the net when works going slow.

Favourite crisps?

Before any of you get started - you're all wrong.

It's either Roast Beef Monster Munch or Frazzles.....anybody that says otherwise is clearly a fanboy.

Wink
ParmaViolet on 3 Nov '09
Chip Sticks forever!!

though i am partial to roast beef monster munch.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 3 Nov '09
It depends on what you mean by compete globally. In terms of market share, neither MS or Sony are in the picture, but in terms of weekly sales, it is very close between all three. I dont think any of the 3 companies could hope for the sort of week-to-week dominance Nintendo has enjoyed until recently.
nicostorm on 3 Nov '09
Roast Beef Monster munch are a good call but flamin' hot has got to be the better flavoured monster munch, while we must all agree pickled onion are vile.
mar5h uk on 3 Nov '09
Roast Beef Monster munch are a good call but flamin' hot has got to be the better flavoured monster munch, while we must all agree pickled onion are vile.

I don't mind Pickled Onion so much - I find all crisps of the family munchus-monstercus to be satisfying.

I'd love for them to bring back the hamburger flavour though - they were amazing.

Smile
ParmaViolet on 3 Nov '09
I used to Like Ringo's before they stopped making them. These days I get Seabrook crisps or Mcoys.

anyway..
Be intresting to know what the overall installed base is for both and see how much the gap has closed up if any.
Osiris25 on 3 Nov '09
Pickled onion Monster Munch or Space Raiders for myself. Or original Ringo's from 20 odd years ago, not those shady mock-ups they released a few years back.

Or CDC Savoury Straws, man those things were loaded with cheese. Haven't seen them in 15 years though
ensabahnur on 3 Nov '09
Pickled onion Monster Munch or Space Raiders for myself. Or original Ringo's from 20 odd years ago, not those shady mock-ups they released a few years back.

Or CDC Savoury Straws, man those things were loaded with cheese. Haven't seen them in 15 years though

If we're getting nostalgic, do you remember Fish N' Chips?

Smile
ParmaViolet on 3 Nov '09
what the hell you all banging on about? Clearly Flame Grilled Steak McCoys are the motherfu*king Daddy of crisps! enough said aiiite!
bunneyo on 3 Nov '09
Pickled onion Monster Munch or Space Raiders for myself. Or original Ringo's from 20 odd years ago, not those shady mock-ups they released a few years back.

Or CDC Savoury Straws, man those things were loaded with cheese. Haven't seen them in 15 years though

If we're getting nostalgic, do you remember Fish N' Chips?

Smile
Aye they were minging Laughing

Also Traditional Cheese McCoy's were brilliant, why they changed them into cheese and onion i'll never know. And what ever happened to Smith's Tubes.
ensabahnur on 3 Nov '09
Pickled onion Monster Munch or Space Raiders for myself. Or original Ringo's from 20 odd years ago, not those shady mock-ups they released a few years back.

Or CDC Savoury Straws, man those things were loaded with cheese. Haven't seen them in 15 years though

If we're getting nostalgic, do you remember Fish N' Chips?

Smile
Aye they were minging Laughing Do they still make Smith's Tubes?

Also Traditional Cheese McCoy's were brilliant, why they changed them into cheese and onion i'll never know.

No, I've not seen Tubes for years (were they actually called that? - I recall them having a slightly different name).

I still wish I could get hold of some Fish N' Chips....I absolutely loved them as a kid.

I managed to find a place that sells Roast Beef & Mustard Brannigans recently....now I just need to find some Quarterbacks!

Smile
ParmaViolet on 3 Nov '09
Do they still make Salt & Shake, if that's what they were called? The most ridiculous crisps ever, I only ever managed to get one tasting of pure salt and the rest of nothing. Oh, and you can't beat salt 'n' vinegar Kettle Chips.
svensk101 on 3 Nov '09
Pickled onion Monster Munch or Space Raiders for myself. Or original Ringo's from 20 odd years ago, not those shady mock-ups they released a few years back.

Or CDC Savoury Straws, man those things were loaded with cheese. Haven't seen them in 15 years though

If we're getting nostalgic, do you remember Fish N' Chips?

Smile
Aye they were minging Laughing Do they still make Smith's Tubes?

Also Traditional Cheese McCoy's were brilliant, why they changed them into cheese and onion i'll never know.

No, I've not seen Tubes for years (were they actually called that? - I recall them having a slightly different name).

I still wish I could get hold of some Fish N' Chips....I absolutely loved them as a kid.

I managed to find a place that sells Roast Beef & Mustard Brannigans recently....now I just need to find some Quarterbacks!

Smile
They were defo called Tubes. Haven't seen any Brannigans for ages, used to love the Roast Lamb and Mint flavour, but i couldn't stand the TV ads for them. "What does the dog eat Brannigan?" Mad "Fat assed coppers who can't talk properly now F-off out my shop!"
ensabahnur on 3 Nov '09
Do they stil make Salt & Shake, if thats' what they were called? The most ridiculous crisps ever, I only ever managed to get one tasting of pure salt and the rest of nothing. Oh, and you can't beat salt 'n' vinegar Kettle Chips.

Salt & Shake are still alive and well - available pretty much everywhere....aren't they the oldest crisps available? - I've always quite liked the fact that you get a mixture of salted and unsalted crisps with them.

I've never really got on with Kettle Chips though - too hard.....if we're talking 'connoisseur' crisps, it has to be those ones you get on the trains that are made in Devon - the Chilli ones are way too hot though.

One thing that we must all agree on though - American crisps (or chips) are truly, truly horrendous.

Smile
ParmaViolet on 3 Nov '09
Many fine crisps there, chaps. My personal ye olde favourites were Hedgehog flavour, from the 80's. They were banned for some unbeknown reason. Sad

Now it just depends on which sandwich I am eating at the time. For instance, my personal fave is a Tuna sarny with Walkers salt and vinegar crisps.

Yum.
Mark240473 on 3 Nov '09
Many fine crisps there, chaps. My personal ye olde favourites were Hedgehog flavour, from the 80's. They were banned for some unbeknown reason. Sad

Now it just depends on which sandwich I am eating at the time. For instance, my personal fave is a Tuna sarny with Walkers salt and vinegar crisps.

Yum.

Salt n' Vinegar - you can't beat the classics!

Smile
ParmaViolet on 3 Nov '09


Salt n' Vinegar - you can't beat the classics!

Smile
Well since Walkers moved over to a healthier cooking oil (sunflower i think) their classic flavour crisps have had a funky aftertaste for me.

Go back to full fatty flavoursome crisps.
ensabahnur on 3 Nov '09
No one has mentioned Scampi Nik Naks? For shame...

Flaming Hot Monster Munch all the way surely, though Worcester Sauce Walkers were also divine.

Personal favourite though has to be Sweet Chilli Walkers Sensations, and Mesquite Kettle Chips. You don't get better than those bad boys.
FlimFlam on 3 Nov '09
No one has mentioned Scampi Nik Naks? For shame...

Flaming Hot Monster Munch all the way surely, though Worcester Sauce Walkers were also divine.

Personal favourite though has to be Sweet Chilli Walkers Sensations, and Mesquite Kettle Chips. You don't get better than those bad boys.

Scampi Niknaks!? I had a packet once and my then girlfriend accused me of having a fling! The should have called them Fissplaps, never mind Niknaks! Laughing
Mark240473 on 3 Nov '09


One thing that we must all agree on though - American crisps (or chips) are truly, truly horrendous.

Smile

Actually. Lays are great... Probably because they are owned by Pepsico who own Walkers.. They are Walkers crisps... but you get a larger bag which = win! Smile It's just the colours of the bags that are misleading for the flavours... I am off to see my brother in America in 2 weeks! Lovely Lays Wink
kimoak on 3 Nov '09


One thing that we must all agree on though - American crisps (or chips) are truly, truly horrendous.

Smile

Actually. Lays are great... Probably because they are owned by Pepsico who own Walkers.. They are Walkers crisps... but you get a larger bag which = win! Smile It's just the colours of the bags that are misleading for the flavours... I am off to see my brother in America in 2 weeks! Lovely Lays Wink

Cheet-Os were the ones that surprised me - that's one huge Wotsit!

Plus, what about all those Dorito flavours they get? - some of those are very nice.

Smile
ParmaViolet on 3 Nov '09
French Fries, what about french fries! They were great!
Osiris25 on 3 Nov '09
It was 'bones' and 'fangs' that did it for me, quality Very Happy
ingy on 3 Nov '09
M&S parsnip crisps! Cool

Like the PS3 they're worth the pricetag...
PS3_fannyboy on 3 Nov '09
Pah, you don't know what good crisps are till you come to Ireland and try the King or Tayto crisps, King cheese and onion is the best crisp ever made, fact (sort of).
flash501 on 3 Nov '09
worcester sauce french fries ftw Wink
shellster2 on 3 Nov '09
pickled onion monster munch assholes!
martinawatson on 3 Nov '09
Ham & Pickle Brannigans! They RULE!!!

And for the cheap crap ones, T-Bone Steak Roysters, mmm.
Conkers on 3 Nov '09
L
M
A
O

I thought this was a games forum. Laughing

Are Pringles considered a crisp? If not, McCoys are great, almost any flavour, APART from Salt and Vinegar, sickly.

Wiis problem is a lack of top quality games. Most of them are keep fit games, or puzzle games, or poor FPSes. If they have more games in future like COD4, which will be ported soon, they'll stand a better chance. I'm genuinely looking forward to the Wii HD, it should be excellent, hopefully.
The Bossman on 3 Nov '09


One thing that we must all agree on though - American crisps (or chips) are truly, truly horrendous.

Smile

Actually. Lays are great... Probably because they are owned by Pepsico who own Walkers.. They are Walkers crisps... but you get a larger bag which = win! Smile It's just the colours of the bags that are misleading for the flavours... I am off to see my brother in America in 2 weeks! Lovely Lays Wink

Cheet-Os were the ones that surprised me - that's one huge Wotsit!

Plus, what about all those Dorito flavours they get? - some of those are very nice.

Smile

Ok... I know what I'll be eating for 2 weeks! I'll have to sample loads and come back with my findings =)
kimoak on 3 Nov '09


Are Pringles considered a crisp? If not, McCoys are great, almost any flavour, APART from Salt and Vinegar, sickly.


Pringles are laced with cocaine! Once you pop, you can't stop! Telling me! Smile
kimoak on 3 Nov '09
too true. I think i've developed some kind of addiction to prawn c**ktail pringles, pretty much every time i go to asda i end up with a tube of them.

qhoever mentioned brannagins thouse were awesome. Haven't had them for years though. used to love the ham and mustard ones.

Steak Roysters used to be pretty epic too.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 3 Nov '09
original flavoured Pom Bear rock my world as do burts firecracker lobster
neolidas on 3 Nov '09
too true. I think i've developed some kind of addiction to prawn c**ktail pringles, pretty much every time i go to asda i end up with a tube of them.

qhoever mentioned brannagins thouse were awesome. Haven't had them for years though. used to love the ham and mustard ones.

Steak Roysters used to be pretty epic too.

Just found a local shop that sells RB & M Brannigans - they still use the same packs and they still taste exactly the same.

I've also rediscovered Golden Wonder crisps - they always were better than Walkers, full of flavour.

Smile
ParmaViolet on 3 Nov '09
Salt 'n Shake. A little boring maybe but they are innately satisfying to rip open and prepare for shuvving down my throat. Unless those chocolate pringle things you can get count as crisps. Then they win.

On topic, I'm surprised at this. Japan is still a big gaming market, obviously not as big as Europe and America, but still big, so Sony must be pleased with this. This is the first year of this gen where I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Sony 'win', and as others have said, competition can only be good for us gamers.
lordirongut on 3 Nov '09
Salt 'n Shake. A little boring maybe but they are innately satisfying to rip open and prepare for shuvving down my throat. Unless those chocolate pringle things you can get count as crisps. Then they win.

On topic, I'm surprised at this. Japan is still a big gaming market, obviously not as big as Europe and America, but still big, so Sony must be pleased with this. This is the first year of this gen where I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Sony 'win', and as others have said, competition can only be good for us gamers.

Pretzel Flips? Shocked

I would be so excited if I were to discover they are still in production. Please don't tell me you've mixed up your past and present tense dude, it will honestly break my heart, lol!
PS3_fannyboy on 4 Nov '09
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